TOP 10 WORST DESIGNED CARDS EVER! - Hearthstone

[@blseodm]

Top 10 cards that helped Kripp to make my fries taste better.

[@DavidPumpernickel]

i wish i could love reacc this as well

[@vijaygarv]

Markus DG PTSD Intensifies

[@DisturbedNeo]

You could even change Warsong Commander now to work with Rush instead of Charge, either giving Rush minions more attack or giving 3 or less attack minions Rush. Would fit with Warrior’s current themes better, and would make a card in Warrior’s basic set sometimes worth playing, instead of never seeing any play.

[@imapaincake2305]

It would be awesome but Rush isn't a "basic mechanic" so it can't stay in the set. Also at the day of the nerf Rush wasn't even a thing

[@MeldinX2]

@@imapaincake2305 true but no one plays it in the current form anyway so it could just have that text anyway and be good for people who got more cards.

[@kennethokubo3435]

but then they'd have to change it's entrance quote lol.

[@MeldinX2]

@@kennethokubo3435 Yeah i guess it wont happen then. Too much effort for Blizzard! :/

[@MeldinX2]

@@kennethokubo3435 Yeah i guess it wont happen then. Too much effort for Blizzard! :/

[@SkipperinoHS]

1:34 see cards 21:05 skip cards

[@ex2738]

Thanks, I almost saw the video like a pleb

[@christop3]

skipperino, rastakhans is live in like 2 weeks yea?

[@koanibigfan]

I just came here to see where tunnel trog was.

[@C1umsyJester]

Surprisingly, nowhere

[@zaooza34]

My face still hurts thanks to that trog. But Jade Idol damaged something far more fragile than face...

[@C1umsyJester]

zaooza34 I think trogg should’ve replaced MC tech

[@EdGeLV]

Seems a bit funny that he forgot to mention it after bashing strong one-drops on a monthly basis

[@AndersAsWell]

I couldnt think of anything worse than Jade Idol and Mc Tech, and i remembered Kripps hatred of Tunnel Trogg and figured it had to be there somewhere on the list, but i guess not

[@mechathunandthecultofdeath4958]

*ERRONEOUS CREATIONS ARE INEVITABLE. UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE I ERASE MY FAILED EXPERIMENTS FROM THIS REALITY, BLIZZARD REACTS BY NERFING FIERY WAR AXE.*

[@megashark1013]

Mecha'thun You should be on the list! *Dabs one handed*

[@dalby_99]

Hey there. 2

[@prussia9255]

It was a buff so that it could be played in odd warrior

[@SebasCapo2013]

I play Mecha'Thun druid, whenever I play against Evenlock I just surrender, they play the fucking Geist and cannot win anymore :/

[@Kallmeyamama]

@@SebasCapo2013 You honestly deserve it

[@clickbaiterinokripperino4744]

Kripparrian's guide to CARD DESIGN!!! Better not print cards like THESE ->

[@fusiformis4520]

Your job is becoming rather obsolete with Kripps latest titlechoices.

[@steinerraphael235]

Not positioning the mouse cursor over Kripps nose in your profile pic really is a missed opportunity

[@steinerraphael235]

That said you are pretty funny

[@GamePlayMetal]

Less clickbaity than the actual video title

[@juhas1636]

YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT NUMBER 6 IS!

[@brandonkim.]

Just nerf baku to 10 mana ez

[@Accomplisss]

Perfect comment

[@marinn00]

Better buff Baku to 2 mana

[@OfficialJagPaw]

Hahaha

[@robertogomez2932]

Lol

[@connman8d617]

@@marinn00 lol 2 mana baku would be played in every deck...100%.

[@alexstrigle5599]

Al’ Akir has the best design you should play him more

[@Kambocya7482]

I agree my lord

[@notquiteaweebyet1054]

I unironically think he's decent

[@bonglord420]

@@notquiteaweebyet1054 That's because unironically, he is

[@ระวีวัชร์786]

AL' AKIR IS THE WEAKEST OF THE ELEMENTAL LORDS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?

[@NeostormXLMAX]

@@ระวีวัชร์786 you realize you aren't used in wild ether right even though you're hall of famed

[@AdmiralStormy]

Another garbage thing about Warsong Commander! Blizzard is never going to print another card with Charge ever again. I actually thought that they could change it to "Whenever you summon a minion with 3 or less attack, give it rush" and that would be a pretty good card. It would even help make rush warrior into a deck people play. I toyed around with making it "Your other minions have rush" but then realized that it would just be a better version of the hunter legendary.

[@Thaumius]

Charge is just WAY too good. Just look at Leeroy Jenkins, Every aggro deck runs it.

[@tabunedale5667]

well dude, take your time with the boar……at least it had charge for synergy with the card#“best” design ever

[@IceBloo]

I just realized that only one charge minion was released in the last two years.

[@Ceracio]

@@IceBloo And it can't attack the turn it's played anyway...

[@IceBloo]

Szadek29 what? It has charge so why can’t it? (I’m referring to chillblade champion, the Paladin lifesteal charge minion) Edit: just realized you’re talking about charged devilsaur. I guess there were two charge minions in the last two years.

[@C1umsyJester]

Mind control tech is just on the list because it makes Kripp salty in arena

[@Dionisisdenis]

It is a rly below average card though.Also, patches and baku shouldnt be on this list.

[@dylanb2990]

Dionisisdenis it’s not below average in arena or constructed, wtf u talking about.

[@Dionisisdenis]

@@dylanb2990 Below average in design not in power.Just not enough to be on this list.

[@Jaigarful]

Yeah, I don't actually agree with Kripp thats its a poorly designed card. It just doesn't fit what hearthstone has become. There was a time where you simply didn't go more than 3 minions because of it or flamestrike in certain matchups. It also just seems odd to complain about the RNG of MCT but not mention Slyvanas.

[@Randy-zw7mk]

100%

[@LarsonV98]

10.Baku, the Mooneater 9.Prince Keleseth 8.Imp-losion 7.Barnes 6.The Caverns Below 5.Patches the Pirate 4.Mind Control Tech 3.Shudderwock 2.Jade Idol 1.Warsong Commander

[@farsightterinokripperino3180]

15:46 _Grim Patron spam flashbacks_

[@mayhaps1]

Pile on!

[@DisturbedNeo]

EVERYONE!!! GET IN HERE!!!

[@Milten7373]

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[@MrPinkok]

It was such a time to be alive!

[@KCzz15]

I'm just surprised that Mysterious Challenger didn't even make the list.

[@drewkaplan7460]

The difference between Shudderwock and Yogg are that while Yogg was an end of game hail marry play that could just as easily hurt you as help you, Shudderwock was a card that, if your opponent got the combo going, you just lose in a slow and painful manner almost no matter how much life you had or what you have on the board.

[@Conqueror933]

actually think grim patron days were the best, it was cheap, it was strong and it was actually hard to play and quite fun to watch with all the crazy math going on

[@Block1618]

I think the post nerf version was best in the 6 months after the nerf hit, it didn't do crazy otk's but was consistently strong and good against aggro.

[@unluckygamer692]

I honestly loved pre- nerf patron warrior, it's probably my favorite deck of all time. That being said it was horribly overpowered and even if you played it sub-optimally it was really strong (even though there was a really high reward for skilled players which is what made me love the deck).

[@AzureDrag0n1]

Same Grim Patron was one of the most fun and interesting decks to play that this game has ever produced. I wish I could play it in wild. Wild seems pointless and just a variant of Standard as the most OP decks in Wild are basically slightly stronger versions of Standard decks.

[@dominicgunderson]

@@AzureDrag0n1 Nah but you can do so much more in wild then standard. It's way more fun imo.

[@ArmorFrogEntertainment]

Patron Warrior on ladder had about a 40% win rate. Because most of the people playing it were really bad at it

[@Helistinify]

I always though that warsong commander worked wrong. It should have given minions on your board charge as long as they had power 3 or less, so when beserker's power rose it would have lost charge.

[@DerWitzboldt]

That's true, but it was still too strong with grim patron.

[@sindrimyr4938]

Kripperwock "My jaws that salt My claws that *damage the soul* !"

[@Shoobe]

wowie so many garbo comments as of late

[@ultimateabsol1268]

Attack sound: Topdeck!?!

[@ItsMeBoingo]

@@Shoobe wow so many pricks as of late

[@neo6492]

@@Shoobe this one speams truth!

[@sebastianbarton2790]

lmao

[@andreasberger4]

The card i hated the most: Pre-nerf undertaker. If you did not have a 1 or 2 mana removal in your opening hand, you lost the game. It would make tunnel trogg look like an average minion.

[@Quitarstudent]

those were the times! death taker into leper and leper, gg bro!

[@Smilinturd]

owl meta was real haha, tbh they were horrid times

[@humbletreestump8134]

Ah back when priest was such a joke class but completely dumpstered huntertaker. What an odd time

[@luminous3558]

@@Quitarstudent the times of buzzard unleash and naxx hunter

[@sufferingfromabdominalpain9580]

Aaaaaaaggghhhggg!! Ok this is not a joke I think I ate something bad and now I'm rolling around on the floor in pain.

[@denisgulyakin5262]

Vegan problems.

[@elliotboiii]

Guys I think we can all agree we have went too deep

[@notdoingmeth6579]

The kripperino we need.

[@Thanos1908]

"we have gone.."

[@robertonome2448]

lmao nice kripperino

[@hiroshifujisawa6467]

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[@Fuzmonster59]

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[@Lord_Zuko69]

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[@paulmuntean1459]

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[@Lord_Zuko69]

@@Rami H that should be possible though? DEFAULT SOLUTION: 1. Tap and hold finger (or something else) on the text you want to copy. 2. A popup window should show up, giving you options: (copy, cut, paste, etc) 3. Release your finger 4. Tap on copy. 5. Go to the textbox where you want to paste your text to. 6. Repeat Steps 1-3 and then use paste instead of copy. 7. You've copy pasted! :D Sounds easy right? Not that easy as using ctrl+c, ctrl+v though

[@dale7208]

I thought it was “HEY, EVERYONE! GET IN HERE!”

[@stevenlang90]

Great video! I think you nailed the list.

[@OwGash]

I expected him to love barnes tho lol

[@edwardmarshall2035]

Undertaker? Mysterious challenger? Kingsbane?

[@Pillandelta]

@@OwGash When Barnes cam out, he was ok because people tried him in fun non meta decks, but after a while meta decks that included Barnes were broken and everyone stoped loving him.

[@OwGash]

@@Pillandelta Fair enough. No tunnel trog on the list is surprising tho.

[@josequeiroz1256]

Edward Marshall good designs tho

[@dinokitty4197]

Jade Idol died so that I could summon Tyrantus from your hand! A noble sacrifice, but Jade Idol can still burn in hell.

[@fredrikolsson2405]

Where is your friend mecha cha thun ?;p

[@UpstarterinoKripperino]

*Oondastarino

[@murlocmasher3368]

Cringe

[@ethandobbs]

Fun video man! Make more Top 10’s please :P

[@rivini4585]

I don't see why Shudderwock couldn't have worked like Yogg, but with random battlecries instead of spells. It would be more of a meme card than competitive, sure, but it would be more fair to play against and gives the one playing it actual risk in using it, such as getting Deathwing's battlecry when you have a big hand, Fire Imp/Pitlord's battlecry, Doomguard's battlecry, etc. Jade as a whole was cancerous. I really hated Jade decks when they were around, and of course Druid was the worst offender for obvious reasons. Skulking Geist was a godsend. Mind Control Tech will be Hall of Famed with the next rotation. It will definitely happen. There have been enough complaints about it from the community. Crystal Core should have been a different reward completely. Something that actually fits Rogue. The problem is clearly granting all your low cost minions a big buff that can't be silenced, but Blizzard either remained too stubborn to change it or are too stupid to realize it. It's a greater Keleseth effect. Barnes I felt wasn't that big of a deal outside of a few, select decks. Aside from Priest and any decks using it to get Y'Shaarj on turn 3-4, it was whatever. Priest was (and still is in wild) bullshit with Barnes because of all the revive effects the class has. _That_ should be looked at more, not Barnes himself.

[@DemonArcMonster]

My favorite time in Hearthstone was the last expansion that Mean Streets of Gadgetzan was in standard, with the Grand Tournament and Reno Jackson. So many decks existed and renolock was one of my favorites

[@marcuslobo5765]

I'd include preparation on this list simply cos it's so badly designed that it restricts spell design forever in rogue

[@ser6Ijvolk]

Blizzard will never buff free cards because that loses them money because they rather you buy packs to get better cards, and they will never do anything but completely destroy unbalanced cards with nerfs, because balancing it actually requires thought, nerfing it to oblivion just practically removes the "problem" from the game.

[@Rubyruby447]

Top 10 worst baked B A N A N A B R E A D S ever

[@joedalton155]

@Tamer Ciftci Dude you should stop flaming this guy every fucking time he posts a comment, it's becoming a bit ridiculous now

[@rhomoe1254]

@Tamer Ciftci Bro this kripp is still more relevant then you like who makes fun of somebody because they don't speak a language perfectly? What's your problem with somebody being funny?? smh

[@lilbigbozo]

Since warsong was number 1 arguably starving buzzard should have at least made the list

[@shudderwock2347]

*I'm not that bad am I?*

[@Kripparrian]

yes you are

[@JakobundChino]

You are not even Meta anymore

[@galleryphoto3823]

You are the ultimate cancer

[@JakobundChino]

DILL THE DOLL Trying to hit legend with him is cancer..

[@shudderwock2347]

@IamMe *yeah, it's hard to find time nowadays*

[@thecaptainplanet1]

After taking a long break from hearthstone and playing mainly mtg. When I came back to HS, it felt very gimmicky and luck based, much more so than mtg. I remebered the classic set to be more about card advantage. I'm very disappointed with the direction the game has gone.

[@grandcrusaderinokripperino94]

Don't worry Kripp. We aren't blind. You don't need to CAPS ON every title.

[@beastmode7913]

My predictions for Kripp: -Patches (duh) -Shudderwock (duh) -The Caverns Below -Mysterious Challenger -Jade Idol -Prince Keleseth -Dr. 7 -Totem Golem -Yogg Saron -Tunnel Trogg Let’s see how I did: 4/9, I don’t count Warsong

[@rwcavallero4790]

First of all I agree on every single point in this Video with the exception of Baku!Baku and Gen are my favorite Card right now and I am playing since Naxxramas!I think that the mechanic of building an Odd/Even deck enabled so many cool combinations and decks, I can understand why there are people that dislike this deck but to put it in the 10 poorliest designed Cards ever is a little bit too much in my opinion! (Oh, I am not a natural speaker so sorry for my poor grammar)

[@alexfleming7614]

Agree with almost all of the list, but I have a few more that should make the top 10 (don’t know what they would replace, though.) - Mage Quest - Ice Block - Tunnel Trogg - Tinkmaster Overspark - Mecha’Thun - Kingsbane

[@Szobiz]

i still dont know what the big issue with tinkermaster (i barely saw it in play). but i agree with most of the other ones

[@taishaku7690]

Wait, no UI in this list ? Kripp, what are you doing ?

[@NerdOracle]

ui is just op, not badly designed

[@KillerKilometers]

Its not UI thats badly designed, its the ramp. Itd be op if it were 5 mana, and with alot of ramp, you get it very early. If not for ramp itd be a perfectly fine card

[@pasty609]

@@KillerKilometers They could definitely nerf it and still have it see play. A 5/5 deal 5 is worth about 7 mana. The remaining 3 mana draws 5 cards and gives you 5 armour. I know that balancing cards like this isn't great but I think there's a pretty big problem when a card is almost half the cost it should be. At least impactful cards like n'zoth require you to build a deck around them.

[@alexanderr.c.6598]

Smiling Cat it has too much value even for 10 mana, in arena is complete bs to play it.

[@architectsaoghau2357]

@@alexanderr.c.6598 UI has a value about 20 mana for 10, it's just horrible designed as the class that has the most profit out of it got it.

[@lessipov]

hold up. where is kingsbane? this stupid card has not only killed fatigue but also every controll deck in wild. You either play agro or u loose... there is no counterplay what so ever.

[@robin8220]

YAHAAAR! Patches the pirate will not charge into battle!

[@jason2mate]

I'd argue the difference between shudderwock and Yogg is that Shudderwock is a combo deck to an extent that you can try to just slam down with aggressive decks, and you know when someone is playing shudderwock. Yogg's effects vary between Auto win and Auto Lose, and don't really require much of any deck building to use.

[@qwejy]

I think Baku Warrior is also a problem now wait a second hear me out. The deck being present has shut off slower aggro or mid range decks from being decent in the meta the only viable one is even shaman which it wouldn’t be without corpse taker. That deck limited a huge amount of other interesting decks from being present in the meta. The only ones that can get through are hyper aggro that can win by stomping early. Also the deck brought a lot of cancerous combo decks back into meta which other decks that aren’t odd warrior have a decent time against but it’s still frustrating to play against.

[@Thaumius]

When I see a baku warrior as odd paly I am just tempted to concede turn 0.

[@goast_cuard]

I have a feeling Shudderwock will be a lot less of a problem when most of the cards needed for the otk are rotated out. Might even be a decent tech card then.

[@FallenLiight]

I’m so glad Jade Idol was on the list. I’ve only been playing hearthstone for a year (so I missed the pirate warrior days) but I can say that my least favorite deck to play against in all my time playing was Jade Druid. It pissed me off so much.

[@MehYam2112]

Jade Idol made me uninstall.

[@yerfdogson9785]

Pirate warrior was so bad that I stoped playing hearthstone for months then I came back to jade and now I have to deal with frost lich jainas broken ass easaly me least favorite card in the game

[@Quintaner]

I think part of the issue with Shudderwock is that there’s just so little counterplay at this point in standard. There’s no deathlords or dirty rats to pull it out, there’s no coldlight Oracle for everyone to attempt to mill, there’s really just nothing you can do to counter shudderwock, or any combo really

[@Cori2996]

I really miss Ultimate Infestation on this list. The end all, be all 10 drop. Ramp -> Ramp -> Ramp -> UI -> oh I just won the game. Screw you!

[@NerdOracle]

ui is just op, not badly designed

[@marcleblanc3225]

@@NerdOracle that alone makes it poorly designed. You can UI on turn 6. Deal 5, draw 5, get 5 armor, get a 5/5 on turn 6. That's shield block, slightly worse fireball, worse sprint, and summon a 5/5 with just a tiny bit of help. I'm shocked it's not on the list.

[@labertasche6073]

@@marcleblanc3225 It is sprint+shild block+firelance portal basecly. Draw 5, gain 5, deal 5 and summon an 5

[@NerdOracle]

hypothetically, if you nerf ui in any fair convention (ie, not warsonging that damn thing) it will still be playable, still resemble the intended design, and be a more fair card. so, while 20 mana value on turn 8 is pretty fuckin op op, that's just an example of horrendous balance and oversight on the devs' parts. if the card were so atrociously designed that it couldn't be reasonably salvaged without effectively replacing the card(redesigning it), then the card isn't really poorly designed

[@marcleblanc3225]

@@NerdOracle It's not really relevant if it matches its original design. This wasn't about whether or not cards match their original design. It's about poorly designed cards. AI costs 3 to draw 2. Sprint is 7 to draw 4. So you can essentially add 2 mana per card drawn starting with AI. If you follow that design, which exists throughout hearthstone, UI's draw 5 alone costs 9 mana. Following this down to shield block, the armor portion of shield block is worth about 2 mana. So now we've got 11 mana worth of value IN ONE CARD for 10. We're already ahead of the game. Dealing 5 damage to a specific target is best matched by Lava Burst, which is 3 plus 2 overload, so call it 3.5. Fireball is 4 for 6, so this is somewhat consistent. We're now at 14.5 mana from a 10 mana spell in one card. Finding a 5/5 with no text is tricky, but in my opinion, the 5/5 with the lowest upside, not including obvious negative text, costs 5. This is 19.5 mana and four cards in one 10 mana card. That sounds like bad design. The only downside is you have to wait until turn 7 or 8 to play it. Doesn't sound that bad to me.

[@Ichabcde]

Notable mentions: Manawyrm (prenerf, chance to win turn 1), Undertaker (prenerf, chance to win turn 1), Flamewaker (too abusable), Tunnel Trogg (chance to win turn 1), Totem Golem (too good with Tunnel Trogg), Ultimate Infestation (too powerful), Dr. Boom (too much tempo back in the day and Boom Bots are too random), Spiteful Summoner (prenerf, too strong), Spreading Plague (Druid is not meant to counter wide boards), Justicar Trueheart (Control Warrior wins if drawn early, otherwise often loses), Mysterious Challenger (Draw 5 (1)-Cost Secrets and play them for free with a 6/6 body, seems balanced), Carnivorous Cuby (too much Deathrattle synergy), Flamewreathed Faceless (too many stats), Muster for Battle (too powerful), Ice Block (too powerful, since you can get additional ones through random effects)

[@joeparas]

Rogue Spellstone. I hate it so much when they print nonsensical cards that have no support at all, especially as a Rogue player desperate for viable archetypes that aren't aggro.

[@AdmiralStormy]

I was going to say Mill, but then I remembered that they murdered Mill rogue in a dark alley. I should buy a Mill deck for MtG.

[@NerdOracle]

rogue had plenty of deathrattle support when old gods was standard

[@ultimateabsol1268]

What about... *V I O L E T HA Z E ! ? !*

[@rainafallenhaze9191]

@@AdmiralStormy Kingsbane mill rogue is very popular in wild.

[@Lauren-wc5zp]

Joseph Parastatidis it’s so rare idek what it does

[@l3varnu]

how broken would it be to revert warsong commander to pre nerf but change it to Rush instead of Charge?

[@kennethokubo3435]

one card i absolutely hate is kingsbane. who the hell decided that a card that basically reads "turn your path to victory into a game of solitaire" would be any fun at all.

[@amphiapple7890]

Kenneth Okubo print a neutral card that silences weapons(somehow)

[@JPKesseler]

10 - Baku - Oh my Jesus, hell yes. I hate this card with every fiber of my being. 9 - Keleseth - I hate this card even more. 8 - Implosion - Wut? Love this card, bloody amazing. *listens to reason why on list* Well that makes sense. 7 - Barnes - Win or no win. HATE 6 - Rogue Ques - Now, it's alright. Then, I cried. A lot. All of the time. 5 - Patches - I hated Pirate Warrior so much I refused to play it even when I opened Patches in a pack. 4 - Mind Control Tech - Nah. You know it's there, deal with it. It offers a last potential Hail Mary. 3 - Shudderwock - Preach. Preach it loud. Preach it with anger and fury. 2 - Jade Idol - It's been long enough that every time I come up against a Jade Druid in Wild that I get a reminder pang of utter despondency. 1 - Warsong Commander - Well blimey, good shout

[@farsightterinokripperino3180]

You are lucky we are unlike Twitch who complain about lateness.

[@Nerdtron93]

My biggest problem with Baku, is the downside is a limited choice of cards, but the distinction is completely arbitrary. Its not locking out specific styles of cards.

[@Rob-uv6fb]

Looks more like a salt compilation.

[@NerdOracle]

that's what his channel is

[@chamorrooriginal7050]

Nice to hear that from you!! i had the same feeling with all that cards, with that long term changes from a partial strategical game to a fast a furious brainless win second turn. I could add another top10.

[@jalikon175]

No Job for me this Video.

[@dansaunders1655]

What are you?

[@volbla]

The thing that bugs me the most with a Sudderwok combo is Grumble. Sure, even if Grumble didn't exist a good Wok combo would still be good, but at least you'd only be able to play one a turn for all your mana! Maybe then the combo would actually have to be about board control, and maybe then you'd have to play some mediocre battlecry to give your Wok taunt or something. The current combo with Grumble and Lifedrinker literally lets you deal 60 damage from hand. Plus it takes forever. Fucking'ell.

[@firedrake110]

Man, the undertaker - zoo matchup was a nightmare. One card bled through the entire meta, and if it went unanswered on turn one, you were dead as shit. It was basically coin darkbomb/frostbolt/waraxe or die

[@lobstepgaming249]

Top 10 most fun cards to play next!!!

[@timetravel2390]

There is so much fun to have with so many of the hearthstone cards that we would need way more than top 10. Too bad the meta obliterates them completly.

[@Lauren-wc5zp]

Lobstep Gaming evolution cards are the most fun

[@pedrofuica9733]

I'd never undestand how blizzard didn't change warsong to something like southsea deckhand, were you give charge to your 3 or less attack minions, but if they suddenly go to 4 or more attack they lose it (like loosing your weapon). That would make it little less bad, but still can be used, in the time, with patron, or with others low cost low attack minions, but whatever, is blizzard.

[@oicmorez4129]

Me!

[@Welchlocket]

Annoy-o-tronino Kripperino You, your twin and your inventor

[@neo6492]

You

[@stephenbruns3943]

think they could change the charge to rush and have warsong commander be playable again, if maybe just on the turn they are played, or if WC rush buff was a battlecry?

[@triceratops1260]

6:22 you still instantly win the game in wild, cancer priest

[@sladethepredator8870]

Can someone explain to me why was patches broken? Wasn't there when he was played.

[@danielevergnano2562]

It was so strong that also control decks were forced to use a small pirate package to run patches. Not bad design imho, but easily the most unbalanced card of Hearthstone.

[@translatedbird]

Because you could play a pirate which would immediately draw you a card and automatically play it and the card happens to also be a boar. It's essentially a 29 card deck that starts with a 1/1 and you had multiple pirate buffing guys to make your already wide board extra cancerous if your opponent wasn't lucky enough to have an answer.

[@NerdOracle]

he used to have charge. playing a pirate on an early turn and getting a free 1/1 charge was powerful enough that patches became an influencer in decks that didn't even have natural pirate synergy. and it created such repetitive gameplay that players despised it.

[@sladethepredator8870]

Ok thanks I was wondering about that because it's a 1/1 but now it's clear.

[@whereisnokripperinointheth837]

On the face of Patches the Pirate

[@trainwrecka]

This has become a Kripp Podcast for me - love hearing your thoughts on cards while I’m commuting (no, I’m not looking at the screen - YT background play FTW!)

[@tolliv3r]

what was the yogg-saron nerf?

[@cutecommie]

"Start of Game" effects are cancer in all cases. Baku should have a battlecry (and a better body to make up for it).

[@charliecrome207]

It would be pretty much unplayable. It would just be a worse justicar

[@rwcavallero4790]

Actually Baku and Gen are (Sorry to disrespect you, Kripp) the best designed cards ever! It created so many archetypes and has such an amazing flaire to it where you build your deck in a very specific way so you would get a special effect! It is like playing a"build a deck with crazy rules'' Challenge but with the twist that the effect makes it actually viable!

[@sylvia3351]

@@rwcavallero4790 except odd paladin is cancer

[@ratrujaga6499]

Braxton Leister Yes but at least we can say hunter is worse...

[@NivMizzet89]

@@rwcavallero4790 They only created two archetypes (Odd & Even), and killed tons of other archetypes to do so. In terms of deck viability, Baku and Genn are utter killers of diversity. They didn't just make Odd/Even viable, they made it oppressive to the point where it's often the only real choice. While you're right that there is some charm to having certain building restrictions on decks, Baku/Genn are terrible ways to do so. Permanent bonuses from the start of every game are just too powerful. Even having Baku simply have 'Battlecry: You win the game if your deck contains no Even cards' would've been a better design.

[@TheLogomo76]

I would put some other cards on this list : - Juicy Psychmelon : the weakness of a combo deck is supposed to be gathering the combo before dying ; thanks to this card, a combo Druid could kill you on turn ten very consistently ; and they decided, instead of nerfing this card to nerf Aviana, since fewer people had this card... - Skulking Geist : Jade Idol is the dumbest card ever printed, but instead of removing it from the game, they decided to print Skulking Geist (an epic card) to counter it ; this card is not supposed to exist since Jade Idol shouldn't exist in the first place. - Shimmering Courser : I think Hearthstone is supposed to be an interactive card game, and this card is the opposite of that. - Ultimate Infestation : this card gives you litterally everything you could need : damage, board presence, armor, and card draw. It is too good and limits design space, because why would you play an other card than this one, since it does everything ? - Primordial Glyph : Kripp already explained well enough why this card is stupid, highly random card that you can't play around, which is not interactive. - Firelands Portal : same thing here, stupidly random card that can win you the game if you are lucky enough to pull a Leeroy or a Doomguard.

[@CodeNameG_]

Kingsbane deserves a spot on the list.

[@xionxiao4916]

I honestly think skulking Geist should be an honorable mention. While originally intended for jade idol, it now just makes games unwinable for decks like mechathun Druid against evenlock and big mage when otherwise, it would actually stand a decent chance .

[@ed_2285]

As I expected, it was not a list made with reason but with a lot of salt.

[@tgr3423]

Not even kidding, Warsong Commander could have been fixed it if simply had the older text exclusive to minions with 3 attack or less. "Whenever you summon a minion with 3 attack or less, it has charge". So the second Frothing or some other minion gets buffed past 3 attack, it loses charge.

[@YetAnotherYoutuber]

..mage quest was also a solitaire experience, much like quest rogue still is

[@NerdOracle]

rogue quest's power, consistency, and repetitive gameplay is the thing that makes it a problem compared to rng-fest mage quest

[@interessiertkeinen7227]

For me it was mostly Iceblock that made the deck so unfun to play against.

[@NerdOracle]

@@interessiertkeinen7227 ice block was the core of the issue, yes. ice block provided exodia mages with a very consistent safety net; too consistent

[@narev6569]

And your sex life! Bazing!

[@edrueter9]

The "deck building" cards that were successful in the past like the singleton decks for Reno actually made you explore cards that wouldn't normally go in a deck. Baku and Genn serve as the opposite, and exclude half the cards from the game. I agree with Kripp here. I hope the next expansion will bring back the singleton mechanic...

[@abzonline2410]

Just started the video but I'm guessing troggs rule number 1

[@Cuestrupaster]

Curious fact: I thought Patches was terrible designed since the time they showed it to us... I was like "no one will do that, is too slow and need to much seeting(refereing to what was shown), but if you just summons it on early game could be really op... but it probably won't be that good because sometimes you will NOT get pirate early on, AND SOMETIMES you may draw it"... and I was think those would be like 75%~of the time so most of the time the card would be terrible and to weak, was a bit of surprise that I was very wrong...

[@Backstaber789]

But Kripp! What about purify?

[@GamePlayMetal]

Purify was actually decent for a short period of time.

[@Backstaber789]

GamePlayMetal I agree except for arena 😂

[@GamePlayMetal]

@@Backstaber789 Wasn't the card excluded from Arena?

[@jerryleganker4630]

That actually worked surprisingly well in silence priest lmao

[@MehYam2112]

There was a place for Purify, after an expansion or two. At the time of release it was pure garbage, considering the shit spot priest was in at the time.

[@Thaumius]

I would have changed warsong to NOT grant charge anymore if 3 or more attack is applied to a minion. It would allow patron to work but NOT frothing.

[@gorderinofreemerino2627]

.....

[@pipos193]

Agreed with all but MCtech. First of all, because it gives a random minion, not a specific one. Secondly, when you swing wide on the board losing one minion is not a big deal, it's more of a minimal hindrance, unless when RNG spits on your face and you lose a big taunt buffed one and the rest are essentially tokens. Third, you would play around it every time you were playing vs handlock and these types of decks, and that is not necessarily bad. Overall I find it extremely balanced, from closed beta till now.

[@andyroberts5266]

Shudderwock = worst card ever. I usually just concede if it's obvious I'm playing ShudderShammy.

[@daedum3177]

I beat shudder more than lose to them with secret hunter.

[@silvercro]

There is always the possibility they could fuck it up or Grumble triggers first and you kill it then win.

[@nicohalt3165]

Rank 18 is rough

[@KnownAsKenji]

'wow, Yogg-Saron was a bad time, guys, let's never make that again, agreed?' *ONE YEAR LATER* 'guyz BEST IDEA EVER what if we made Yogg-Saron except you get to choose what it casts!' Glad it made the list.

[@originalsinquirls1205]

then you're probably losing 25% more than you should. a shame.

[@d3m0nger]

100% agree on Kaleseth. I tried to disagree on Baku, but can't find arguments :o Shudderwock is actually great... until now Shudderwock decks always require a lot of skill while never been the best deck by far.

[@charlotte-hanson]

I sadly much preferred playing against Jade Druid than playing against Frost Lich Jaina

[@sladikk]

By far the best designed deck-limiting card released was the first one, Reno Jackson. That's because instead of making it so you _can't_ play certain cards, it forced you to play _more_ cards, and the effect turned the game around but could be countered by aggressive decks or a sticky board. Every deck-limiting card since Reno has been a feeble attempt to make lightning strike twice. Gadgetzan(aka the worst set in the entire game) just copy-pasted the text with its legendaries, and Witchwood and Frozen Throne's deck limiters just flat out said "you can't play with the full card pool." The only way to live up to Reno in my opinion would be to have a card that allows you to break the game with extra cards in your deck.

[@aswkimaris]

If I got one dose of antidepressants for every time I saw a Kriperrino name in the comments I could cure my depression

[@ThaGamingMisfit]

Oh wow seems I'm not the only one !

[@frozennugget1157]

Mind Control tech is pretty good, pretty simple actually because you just gotta know if you can control the board or can’t control it, place it immediately if you can

[@Xx358hffy]

Its not about it being bad, it can be amazing. He said that tbe design was ass because it was pure rng win condition

[@Zoinkoman135]

Great video I know since I’ve watched it in its entirety.

[@Killord101Adam]

Fake news

[@Dionisisdenis]

Bad video.Baku and patches shouldnt be even close to this list.And he thinks defile is one of the best designed cards.LOL.

[@NerdOracle]

@@Dionisisdenis defile is a well designed card. strong, yes. but also skill testing and has a fair effect. it even damages both sides' minions. it was also unique in being one of the only cards in the game to "recast" itself under certain criteria

[@Dionisisdenis]

@@NerdOracle FAIR ?? FAIR????ARE YOU KIDDING ME?if the board clear was only in your opponents side all he had to do was miss a number.Now that all control warlocks can affect the outcome its even more unfair that it would ever be.You can never play around it and it will always fck u.Its designed in such a broken fckin way that you cant counterplay it at all.The recast is the most broken part of it as well.Now we have the echo which is actually a bit fair for board clears since you waste way more mana.Dont ever say such a big lie as that defile is fair.

[@NerdOracle]

@@Dionisisdenis warpath is the echo equivalent of defile, friend. and warpath is stronger than defile. turns out, choosing how many times you deal 1 to all is pretty valuable in most matchups, even if you can't go higher than 5 with warpath. if you want to weaken defile, you intentionally avoid playing into a lineup of minions with consecutive health, so the warlock is forced to waste additional damage or cards to get a good defile board. doing that alone is enough to put your warlock opponent behind, if you're a competent player, or have a decent deck. or both! so rejoice, rejoice! there is in fact some counterplay! and you're far too blinded by your salt, you mad man.

[@pyrox2518]

I don't get why they didn't nerf patches to rush instead of nothing.

[@Wasylek1337]

Hey kripp its guys here

[@tigerohman7079]

Is that Wallpaper on wallpaper engine IF so what’s the name?

[@beenismchugerod]

Branching path is balanced guys lmao guys come on just compare it to shield block you only get one more armor for mana lol come on guys

[@otosuchomel5875]

Just because it's OP doesn't mean it's bad design.

[@evilpotatoman9436]

dude it doesn't compare to these cards at all... these are the legends of shit... even UI cant make this list... but tunnel trog definitely should have made it

[@JohnGAME]

@@evilpotatoman9436 In my opinion Tunnel Trogg's effect design wasn't really flawed, it wasn't even anything new. The bad design part of Tunnel Trogg was the fact, that it's a 1 Mana 1/3 WITH a powerful effect. Although I agree the PTSD from this era still lingers around.

[@Med1umentor]

@@JohnGAME yeah, exactly. Same reason why mana wyrm was so powerful too. Well, i kinda think that the problem was in speed of ramping, if it was ramping just from the "overload" as the fact (like that 2/4 elemental), and not from ammount of overloaded crystals, it would be pretty balanced, still powerfull, but way more balanced, like mana wyrm.

[@swiftdragonrider]

@@evilpotatoman9436 people thinking trog should be on the list but not undertaker? i am confused

[@davidkellock1132]

Hey, I don't quite agree with your Jade Idol being on the List. All you had to do to counter it was have 1 Skulking Geist in your deck, which would destroy all 1-cost mana cards, thus destroying the opponents idols and Jade build. Also the fact that the card is neutral, it could be put in any deck.

[@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIPKIIIIIIIIIIIIII]

Thought people hated Ice Block...

[@socrateshighbourne9773]

It was powerful but early hearthstone it was pretty needed, also this was the void of frostlich jaina, tbh the new paladin immune is probably going to bring some serious horror stories

[@danigiro]

You know, the premise of infinite scaling and endgame of jade idol made that card my favourite. I felt good everytime i reached that stage of the game that you mention, when it gets broken after stuggling all game.

[@_Adopted_]

If two vegans are arguing, is it still considered beef?

[@succgod8101]

Where tf is divine spirit and inner fire?

[@bubbleyes1302]

More lists!!

[@ricon0suave]

How do you leave out Purify

[@sindrimyr4938]

Preparing in here

[@vincentpelletier57]

Warsong commander: not only did they obliterate the card, it also does not even work all the time! If you have WC in play, then buff a minion with a spell to give it charge, it does not get WC's +1 attack! Shudderwock complaints: I guess this is because you don't hang out in the Bug Report forum. The number of complaints about it, and most of them from angry people, not just polite inquiries like "is this intended?", was very high. I can't compare to Yogg's time as I did not visit the Bug Report forum that much then. Shudderwock is completely broken, and was even worse in the 15-20min turn time days. Yogg is just a YOLO card, people would complain about it, from what I remember, as being the most random card ever designed. Yet random is random, Yogg could easily cast Pyroblast into the player's face causing involuntary suicides. I guess it mostly affected people with a low sense of humor. Jade idol: what an annoying card to play against! They designed a card to counter this one specifically! Somehow they did not want to nerf the card (perhaps they could not think of a way to salvage it) so they designed a hard counter specifically for that card! But only on turn 6 or more, so that the poor druids can at least get ahead of the curve with the golems. I would say mainly because of that Jade Idol card, I still remember the golems mechanics as broken. So, good list, interesting viewpoints on the cards, thanks a lot!

[@Dangerousbros1]

I ALWAYS LOVED SUDDERWOCK HE LOVES TO TALK AND RYHME LIKE ME!!!

[@dragonslair951167]

Yogg-Saron was complained about because it decided the outcome of a game at random, even at tournament levels. Shudderwock decks have historically not been very good in a tournament setting, and there's a lot less RNG that factors into their victory. So Shudderwock didn't get flak from competitive Hearthstone.