5 Clues to Spot a 'Christian' Narcissist

[@Kris_Reece]

Am I a People Pleaser Quiz? Discover Your Type. krisreece.com/am-i-a-people-pleaser/

[@bride0fLORDYESHUA]

those arent christians but of the devil . God Lord Yeshua said : you cant sit here near my taqble and eat from it when/if you sit near devils table and feast from it .

[@marytaylor9504]

Thisi s So True!!​@bride0fLORDYESHUA

[@marytaylor9504]

​@bride0fLORDYESHUA Hollow individuals TRUE!!! No conquence! Evil spirits!!! Scammers, cheats stealers thieves. Best of Liars!!! Phony Pretenders!!! Con- artist!!!

[@marytaylor9504]

He was Lucifers brother!!!

[@KIMBER68]

I took the quiz & found out I'm a Recovering People Pleaser. I'd say that pretty accurate for me.

[@sergeisergei4700]

I was a narcissist. I had no Idea that I was. By God's grace he saved my soul, but its taken many years for me to realize by Gods mercy that I was a narcissist. It's been a horrific revelation. Yet God in his great love and gentleness has changed me over the years and continue to lead me out of this hallow, lonely shallow place and making me finally into a person who can care for others by his Holy Spirit and not need to have all focus on myself. May The Lord in his grace deliver all narcissists from such a cruel heart and very dark place in Jesus name amen.

[@THEOTHEREVELATOR]

well done seeing your old self and now it is time to heal on.

[@Ash-ds5dd]

Were you married? what kinds of things did you do to your partner as a narcissist?

[@Nanasfsw]

That’s a very comforting message. I just realized my daughter has become a full fledged narcissist after marrying one 19 years ago. I’ve been tortured by her for 18 years, she’s used the grandchildren as weapons, the oldest is 18, then 15, 6, and 1. My husband and I think they’ve spaced out the children to keep us hooked taking care of their housing, electricity, car, insurance, heating for 18 years, they are both very entitled. We can’t cut them off or it’ll put the grandchildren on the street. We’ve been praying together daily to release my daughter from the darkness of narcissism. You have shared a beautiful message of God’s grace, mercy, love, and redemption. This is the first positive message I’ve seen since realizing the awful dilemma we are facing. Praise God!!! I will continue to pray for her frequently and fervently. God bless you for sharing 🙏🙏🙏

[@spaideman7850]

if you thought that you are a narcissist, then you are NOT a narcissist because narcissist will NEVER reflect badly on themselves; they believe they are the most perfect/holy person on earth.

[@mountainwarrior8387]

@@spaideman7850 Apparently you don't believe that God can change such a heart. Sad for you.

[@christismith8052]

“Your needs are a nuisance” to a narcissist … great realization 👍

[@josepeinarbriansson7868]

“Trying to emotionally connect with a narcissist is like trying to water a plastic plant”…..that’s a mic drop moment. Amen.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

Two people pray to two different gods and both claim they have emotionally connected to that god. One has actually connected to that god and the other only thinks they’ve emotionally connected. What methodology would you use to tell the difference?

[@riada4996]

​@@Jonas-gl9keI don't know that they "think" they have connevted. I am fairly certain most of them know they haven't connected to any god, bùt get pleasure out of fooling other people to think that they have.

[@fourteenten6170]

ALL Christians are on the narcissists spectrum... It's build into their dogma!

[@UT4Clips]

It's not about mic drops, the whole point of this is to remain humble and nonjudgemental ourselves. The idea behind a "mic drop" is prideful and unchristian. The lesson is to recognize when someone is being guided by the Holy Spirit vs guided by the flesh so we know who to listen to. It's not about judging and condemning narcissists.

[@fourteenten6170]

@@UT4Clips The whole idea of christianity, especially today in the "church" as it's become, is a hypocrisy, illogical and completely and wholly narcissistic

[@zippyg7752]

I almost didn't click on this because it's absolutely impossible to be a Christian and a narcissist. Narcissists NEVER put Jesus on the throne of their lives because they are god and everyone exists to serve them. My first time listening to you. You nailed it. The church is the narcissist's playground.

[@curtiscollins2174]

Very well said, agree 100%..

[@angelajohnson1693]

Not every church is this way. God wants your trust in Him not people. If you read your scripture you will find He is not impressed by ourselves but by whether we actually honor and put out trust in Him, if that makes sense ❤️🙏

[@jerriwoodard6677]

Wow. I thought the church is the sinner's hospital, and that would include the narcissist as well as the psychologist who speaks of them with contempt. I do not see the love or compassion of Jesus for the sinner in this presentation. 😢 You may now remove my comment from this toxic place.

[@marybedore899]

@@jerriwoodard6677 I agree. My ex is a born-again Christian and really loves God. Unfortunately, he never sought counseling because of course it was never him, it was always everyone else. That’s why I finally left. He had deep wounding in childhood, and really tried to change, but never sought counseling or help with his abusive and narcissistic tendencies. It’s sad because his three adult kids don’t want anything to do with him. And I just had to leave and try to put my life back together. It’s very sad for all involved.

[@AdrianMelia-0]

​@jerriwoodard6677 The presenter is caring for the vulnerable, the victim of abuse, the "downtrodden", by enlightening them about the abusers' behaviour. If your concern is because you have never been a target of abuse, lucky you. Watch and learn.

[@marietgagliardi]

I was a bank teller and i can tell you it was so easy to find a counterfeit because i saw real money all day long

[@bendiggs1036]

@@marietgagliardi money has a distinct smell.

[@jlanam]

@@bendiggs1036 😅 New money, maybe. But when it's been passed around from sweaty hand to sweaty hand, pushed down sweaty bras or pants...it takes on other smells. I never believed people whey they said how dirty money was until I spent all day handling it and got warm, moist money from people in the drive-through. 🤢

[@EvaCFricke]

If you want to spot narcissist: 1. They are always right. 2. They are very defensive 3. They always blame others 4. They would never listen 5. They will ounish you. 6. They play mind games. 7. They lie. Now narcissism is on spectrum so some have more narcissistic traits than others.

[@Karen-cd9dd]

Punish

[@blessedandannointed]

I'm a Christian and a licensed clinical therapist.... And that's not what the DSM says about the characteristics to diagnose someone with narcissistic personality disorder... Please be careful about naming all unbecoming traits of an individual characteristics as "narcissism"... While everything you named is unhealthy behavior, it doesn't make someone the clinical definition of a "narcissist".

[@manichairdo9265]

@blessedandannointed Thank you for your comment. Although I believe there are narcs, in general, I think we all have some bad behavioural issues where we need to surrender to the Lord becoming more Christ like.

[@brigittecorneille4705]

​@blessedandannointed Eye-opening..."unhealthy behaviors, "... thank you for that!

[@OldSchool1947]

@@blessedandannointedMany of the people commenting seem to be able to label others “narcissists “ but amazingly nobody here could EVER have such characteristics!

[@tammybagwell1741]

At the start of this video, I knew where she was going with the analogy. The problem is for those of us who were raised by narcissists. We ONLY know the fake because that's all we grew up with. We then become the scapegoats for narcissists because we tell the lies they tell.....and get caught. When you're young, you know something is "off" in your gut, but ....what....nevermind that they're a "Christian" and would NEVER do that. You're just a bad kid who is CLEARLY wrong..... I could go on and on but this is the reality of GEN X'ers who had to deal with narcissists. The struggle was real

[@khepri906]

WELL SAID !! 👌

[@imatubewatcha]

Not just the Gen X`ers, children of all generations who've had to be raised by narcissist 😢 Narcissism has been around since the beginning of time, it just didn't have a name 😔

[@Its.A.Me.Mario.1985]

It took me a long time, but I can see narcissism pretty well. I've done tons of research over the years on NPD, and I can safely say most people with NPD will never be diagnosed. I'm now in a good, healthy, loving relationship with someone who knows my inherent weaknesses ingrained into me by constant narcissistic abuse. Jesus Christ is the reason I have such a wonderful relationship.

[@holyremnantgathering2509]

family dysfunction during a child’s developmental years opens the door for the Jezebel (narcissist )spirit to enter that child and wreak havoc on their life. It is a generational curse in my family I’ve come to realize-mother, sister, son and ex-husband. First step is to cast out the Jezebel spirit then deal with the dysfunction-its a long process but with God’s help it is possible to overcome ❤

[@closingthedivide1187]

"If you're the type to mistake arrogance for confidence or scripture reading for true biblical belief, you, too, could be swayed into believing that you are dealing with a secure person who is able to handle criticism" - So, so good, Kris! I'm truly grateful for you! 5:02

[@simplypositiveme]

He kept changing the conversation to a Bible study instead of listening.

[@Kris_Reece]

I'm so glad the videos are blessing you.

[@davidlafleche1142]

@@Kris_Reece 1) "Intimate Connection." Every time I write a devotional, he's not interested in discussing it. He simply glances at it, but is not interested in learning. 2) Criticism. My own personal narcissist expected me to drive him to the supermarket after church every Sunday. He didn't even use the self-service lane! It took him forever to get in and out of there. One time I didn't get home until 2:30 (church had ended at noon). I said, "When are you going to buy your own car?" He screamed at me, "I DON'T WANT A CAR!" He didn't care if I criticized him or not. (I have met other narcissists who did, in fact, take suggestions as a threat; or at least they would simply dismiss me as "uneducated.") 3) Pride. UGH! One time I had written an essay about the Holy Spirit. Another church member was eager to learn more and I wanted to expand on the lesson. She asked me a question. But my own personal narcissist butted in and answered it for me. He has a way of dominating conversations and crowding me out. He then wasted 15 minutes on useless small talk about a job he once had. Another time, I had written a novel (unpublished). The family loved it. He said, "I helped him write it." I was so angry! I said, "No, you didn't!" He screamed, "YES, I DID!" For several years afterward, he kept harassing me, demanding, "How much money did you make on that book?!" I finally said, "Nothing! I don't expect to get rich doing that!" (That finally shut him up.) 4) "Needs." There was a time when I worked 60 hours per week and had very little time for Bible study. After work, I would go to my room and shut the door, because I need quiet solitude in order to read and write. My own personal narcissist complained that I didn't watch TV with him. 5) Misuse of Scripture. I finally had enough of my own personal narcissist, so I kicked him out of my apartment. He insisted I owed him. He quoted Cain: "Am I my brother's keeper?" I told him he couldn't use that as a blank check to get anything he wanted from me.

[@MariaJimenez-ye9sn]

Wow. You stood up for yourself!!! I bet it felt great. And you probably thought. Why didn't I do it earlier. Well done for you and keep writing. Even if it is only for your pleasure. ❤

[@Bluettes-cm7wo]

@@davidlafleche1142 Jesus said, Let the dead bury their dead and follow Me.

[@barbaragonzales5944]

I only feel safe when I'm completely alone.

[@elizabethy2912]

I get that!!👍👍

[@amagickalmeliss]

But unless God specifically said for you to be alone, you shouldn’t be alone. what you need to do is go to God and ask him for your family. Psalm 68:6 God takes the lonely and He sets them in a family. 💖 It worked for me.

[@fueledbyjesus]

@@amagickalmeliss Amen ! God bless your family 💟

[@janorth9986]

She knows what her boundaries are.

[@letnothingslide1969]

Me too friend 😬🥴

[@RicoMnc]

It is a hard lesson to learn that loving and serving others does not necessarily mean pleasing them

[@bryguy8203]

For sure love without truth becomes mere sentimentality. We need to love our friends more than our friendships and warn them if they act as if they are on the broad road to hell. You shall know them by their fruits.

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

@@RicoMnc true

[@MarthaLHorn]

This is a very good point

[@GodIsLove1John416]

I've learned that no one has truly cared or loved me but what they could get from me until I was dry & shriveled up before discarding me

[@lilybuccigross6688]

Clue #1 for me was what I called “pretty prayers”; empty and shallow. No authentic relationship with Jesus.

[@susannabonke8552]

Manipulative and evil.

[@kayesmith2518]

The only prayer we did together was over food unless I prayer going on a trip. He alwsys ley me do my prayer snd bible readings by myself while he went on porch to do his as he's smoking 😳😳

[@TruBlu65]

Judge not :: It is a virus of the heart and soul to constantly think you/we know, without a doubt, the inner truth about another person.

[@jamietanksley3113]

​@@TruBlu65The Bible teaches "Righteous Judgement," Don't judge some one on something If you are doing the SAME thing, Blessings always ❤️

[@riada4996]

Rehearsed script prayers (e.g. "Dear Jesus. Thank you for this day. Thank you for your love and grace. Bless this food to our bodies.") The clue is in the redundancy.

[@4Mikes4Mindset4]

Religious narcs are the worst

[@justinburch]

This was really good. We recently had to cut a person out of our life who was proclaiming herself as Christian yet refused to pay her employees or do the simplest things without whining and crying and trying to get someone else to do everything for her. She could quote scripture like a great scholar but if she didn't get her way, she turned verbally ugly and abusive. If that didn't work she would then go all sorry and apologize (with a subtle twist on how you were actually to blame.) She was trained as a therapist which made it even worse. She used those skills as a tool to slice people up.

[@JanineMJoi]

So a narcissist is every person with issues. They're devoid of emotion, controllers. I thought narcissists were just one thing. This is eye opening. Thank you so much for the definitions.

[@bridget1873]

Thank you so much for helping me understand my ex-husband and everything he did and why. It was so confusing when I was married to him. He was an elder in the church but behind closed doors he was a monster. I went to counseling by myself for years to try to fix what was wrong with me because he made me believe everything was my fault. Listening to videos like yours and reading about npd helps me so much. It's painful but at the same time helpful (if that makes sense.) He ordered a mail-order bride from China soon after the divorce and my heart breaks for her. Kris, God is using you mightily to help people like me. Thank you so much and God bless you!

[@Kris_Reece]

Thank you for sharing. I'm blessed to hear that the videos have been helpful for you. :)

[@phyllisdevonish859]

Street Angel… Home Devil

[@DominieRobinson]

This Lady here , Dr. Carter " Free to be Me" series ( KZbin) and Dr. Ramani Top Foremost Expert on all things Toxic and Narcissistic Literally Saved my sanity when I was Frazzled, and confused, pulling my hair out over a Covert manipulator's Toxic Word Salad , a Lady that came across as perfectly Delightful , said all the Right things, appeared to Do all the Right things for about 11 months until WHAM, her mask fell off !

[@MJ-my9sg]

Wow our marriage experiences parallel each other. All those decades destroyed me. Mine was before psychotherapy was a thing. 🙏🙏

[@bridget1873]

@@MJ-my9sg I'm so sorry you suffered at the hands of your abuser! It's terrible that there are so many of us.

[@ebishrimpy9366]

I had just resigned from the praise and worship team at my church because its lead by narcissists and Its making me struggle with my feelings while serving in ministry. I'm praying God would give me wisdom as to what to do next, because I've grown to dread going to church on Sundays. I understand that I'm only reacting emotionally towards flawed humans like me. God is still good and almighty

[@randiloreaux6991]

Worship leaders lead the spiritual battle for the church. Makes me wonder about all your leadership? Just a thought. Maybe God wants you to move on. If you dread it and have fear…🧐

[@ebishrimpy9366]

@@randiloreaux6991 its a small local church. The pastors don't preach heresy or biblically unsound things, but the environment kind of empowers covert narcissists to take control, because the smallness of the church doesn't leave many options for key persons to put in positions of responsibility. It's easy for them to look impressive and compassionate to most people, but if you get up close they are condescending and glory-seeking. I have treasured relationships with some people who attend there, so it's not a simple decision to just leave, and I don't like to badmouth our leaders to those who are oblivious 😔 ...for now I listen to online-streamed services from other churches during work, and that keeps me grounded in His word for the meantime that I've lost my trust in the leadership of my home church

[@ebishrimpy9366]

@@randiloreaux6991 its a small church. The preachings are biblical, but the smallness of the church doesn't give it many options for key people to put in positions of responsibility. Its easy for the covert narcs to appear spiritual, impressive, and to take control. When we got closer, they revealed condescending and glory seeking behavior behind the scenes. I have treasured relationships with some people who attend there, so It's not an easy thing to just leave, and I won't badmouth the leaders to those who are oblivious. For now I listen to other churches' online services during work and still attend my home church for fellowship's sake

[@ebishrimpy9366]

@@randiloreaux6991 I'm sure His answer will come, because I ask for it 🙏

[@john6903]

I wish i would have known these things in my 20's. It very literally took me a lifetime to figure this stuff out. And i still cannot put it into words. You do it so well 👍.

[@RonSafreed]

It was not allowed to talk about narcissism on the media of years & decades ago!!

[@Kashkmad]

My experience is exactly the same.

[@ashanithesharp]

Wow… God brought me here. I’m going through this with my mother-in-law.. this video has brought me a lot of peace when the devil has been trying to get me to think I’m crazy. Glory to God!

[@susiequsie1980]

Ahhhhh!!!!! This is my life. Its ALL TOO FAMILIAR! I feel like you're spying on me, like for all my life. Ive been surrounded by narcissistic and its exhausting and depressing. Thanks for the clarity. New subscriber!!!💓

[@DeaconBeanCooter]

Connecting with them is Like trying to water a plastic plant - well said my fren!❤🎉

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

How would you demonstrate you have “connected” to Yahweh?

[@angelashort1331]

I'm perplexed , by the bibles declaration , that we would be exposed to NARCISSISTS , LOVERS OF THEMSELVES . AND YET , THIS PHENOMENA IS IN OUR CHURCHES AND FAMILIES AND YET THERE IS NO PROGRAM OR ALERTNESS , OR HONESTY , IN HOW A CONGREGATION CAN DEAL WITH THIS.

[@angelashort1331]

I know that nice gal , you describe , and yes , he's burning out . GOD HELP HIM , ❤

[@anneboyle2240]

Yes!!!! Exactly 💯 I told the truth about a wolf in sheep's clothing in my very first church and they didn't believe me!!! She was demon possessed and running rings around them while abusing me and the demons would only manifest with me but they thought I was crazy unfortunately and believed her, she was laughing at them. She died and I don't know if she was saved in the end but if not, they enabled a soul to go to hell. No one I think will believe me in the church either now about my husband who has tried to push me into suicide. It's been a horrendous 14 years of serious covert abuse. The church haven't got a clue the level of this. I think the Lord might be bringing me into a ministry of exposing wolves - I told him six years ago no way, I'm not the person for the job lol but I think I am. I can see them. When I got saved, demons manifested in children where I was teaching, all over the place. But my husband has been the most difficult. Because they're so hidden. It's sneaky and slow, drip, drip, drip.... devastating. Only by God's Grace and mercy for me as a blood bought daughter of the King am I alive to tell the tale. I'm leaving him finally in about two weeks. I was shown the truth and of course, it has set me free. Amen ❤️🙏

[@bryguy8203]

I'll go a step further, "preachers" preach to love yourself first.

[@imperfectillustration6261]

Most churches are not equipped to deal with this. The pastors and elders who have never dealt with narcissism before have no clue on how to spot this. When I brought the issues I was going through in my marriage to an elder during counseling. He told me that I should just “love” my wife more in spite of the emotional abuse, rage and other manipulation tactics and devious things she was doing behind my back.

[@bryguy8203]

@@imperfectillustration6261 I hear ya. "They are not our friends but rather our worst enemies who sooth people in their sins." Sin and Repentance ignored and we see the results "feel good" deluded secular humanists with Bible verses mixed in. God Bless your future. 🙏

[@jkk5948]

This is literally the best video on narcs I've ever seen. Thank you!. I'm saving this to watch when i need reminders to stay away❤

[@thomasedwards5431]

We've all fallen to the temptation to believe we can be like god. It is seen differently in different people. It is VERY obvious in some and very well hidden in others.

[@gwendolynwehage6336]

Thank you, these are all things I have seen in family members. I live in a culture in which arguing and fighting is normal and expected. I stay away from them as much as possible. We cannot reach those who are in rebellion against God.

[@juliefisher1986]

Thank you. My one sister does this. What a mockery of God it is. I broke free from her and boy does she hate me even more now. Me? I'm able to appreciate myself more now and have way better friends. Thankfully, more family are getting the clue and breaking free from her lies and manipulation! Praise the Lord!

[@Paulohlsson7]

Hi Julie, how's your day going with you?

[@steveportice3560]

I am definitely burnt out from being that nice Guy, and praising a woman that I fell for, thinking she deserved it.

[@Dj.D25]

I did something similar. I made the mistake of being attracted to a woman who I assumed was God fearing based on her Facebook posts. And I thought since we appeared to have a lot in common we should try being more than friends. But as I got to know her, I was told lies and manipulated. I have questioned if she's a covert narcissist, but I feel I could be wrong, based on other traits. After being burned by others, I don't trust any Christian woman now who posts mostly Christian related posts and very little else of her life.

[@NFTeve]

I reflect and heal my own neediness and surrender it and any loneliness to God . Otherwise we are victims waiting to happen!!

[@johngreen1776]

43 years as a Christian in Christian churches. There are many wonderful people, but there are con artists and people ready to take advantage of you. Take your time and be wise!

[@firefly88887]

They often show other signs of aggression , like not speaking for days , emotionally withdrawing from children or even pets who really don’t understand this can go on for days or weeks until they get you back where they want you ! They also put other people down, no one does anything better than them - they compete with your 7 year old and even your cat !

[@johannastrydom3071]

@@firefly88887 that is so so true ive been living with one for 27years,left 2021 he kept coming over every weekend,but im finally free from him for more than a year now. Amen

[@paulacoyle5685]

It might be good to mention that a lot of these qualities are present in immature believers as well, but overtime they should grow in sanctification, and unfortunately a lot of people with charm get promoted to positions of leadership, which only in trenches their bad behavior and solidifies the narcissism in their soul, soul, so that without a very harsh correction (which almost nobody is willing to enact on them) they will not be fixed. Also, a really great lecture is by Dr. Diane Langberg on “narcissism and the system it breeds” Narcissists will stroke other peoples egos in order to create a circle of insulation around themselves, people who will protect them from anybody who dares to call them out a.k.a. flying monkeys

[@Cami_Settheworldonfire]

I NEEDED THIS VIDEO! I was so confused to the behavior I have been witnessing❤😮

[@judysowell290]

Actions over words - well done. This was helpful.

[@donovanackleyiii]

Spot on. I had the misfortune / poor judgment to work as a theology professor at a "Christian" university for 15 years and was ordained to ministry for 30, always seeking to share deeper, complex but loving truths and connections -- gaslit and confused when life-threatening health issues changed my life and was cast out along with my children. Eyes opened, heart broken, wish I had known then what you share now. "Like watering a plastic plant...." Well said. Thank you!

[@donovanackleyiii]

= religious trauma/ relational trauma

[@PopUpCamp]

I had the displeasure of meeting a “Christian” councilor (even has a KZbin channel and a book) who berated me soundly for being 7 minutes late for an appointment. (Not related to her services but mine) She chastised me for asking questions not out of line for me to ask in order for me to be able to do my work with her. She was intolerant to anyone else talking to me while I was tending to her. She abruptly ended our meeting I was shocked at her behavior as a self professed Christian. I was very angry at her blatant hypocrisy. It still makes me mad when I think about it: she is out there giving “advice” from the standpoint of “it’s all about you”. I thought it was all about God 🤷🏼‍♀️ Thank you for letting me vent.

[@sseltrek1a2b]

we all struggle with narcissism from time to time...but what she's talking about here is a lifestyle of it, and it should be avoided...i got out of a regular group situation 2 years ago where i wasn't able to contribute to any of the conversations going on in the room "ever", and 2 people in particular dominated "every' conversation, and always steered the conversations back to themselves, their life, their experiences, etc...("my....aren't "we" full of ourselves..."...)...

[@stewbugz5213]

Sounds like the Bible study group my husband and I had to get out of. I’ve never met so many self centered people in one room!

[@DominieRobinson]

A Lot of Innocent, naiive, wellmeaning Christians are Taken In by Narcissistic, Controlling, Abusive Churches and Church Systems. Pray for Godly Wisdom and Highest Discernment , situations like what she describes explains Why Jesus said " be Wise as a Serpent ...." because Christians Need to Know How to Protect themselves and Loved Ones from Evil such as what she describes

[@tracyannaleclair9320]

And the church doesn't help when they tell us to submit yield think more of the other than ourselves. That applies with regular people and not with people like this the best way to lie yourself to be abused for life

[@WalkerTexas]

The worst family I ever met was a Catholic Family that went to church every Sunday but also bragged they have family in the Italian mafia and the patriarch would consistently go into psycho violent rages. One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was hanging around those low life’s.

[@markdelgado8963]

Listened to this excerpt thinking how it would apply to my ex, who is a covert narcissist and found Kris calling me out. My own narcissistic tendencies were exposed and in the open. I've always known that my personality is that of someone who is a born critic. Always judging others, never holding myself accountable and giving my ex as much grief as she gave back. Change is something very difficult to accept for myself given my fifty odd years on this Earth. God willing and bending my will to Jesus is the answer to my prayers.

[@MrJohnstonJohno]

I feel like a complete fool. My family and I spent years in a church where the leadership was centred around a family. I am gobsmacked because everything you said I recognise. I am honestly not joking, almost 15 years later, we made a clean break from the church, leaving behind people that we thought we cared about. I honestly don’t know where I am in my faith. My wife and I are completely devastated by the whole experience. The whole thing was a constant uphill struggle. We thought we were doing the right thing and we sacrificed a lot. in the end we burn ourselves out and that was one of the reasons we left. Nothing we did was good enough. We made a clean break about a year and a half ago. We had to change our phone numbers and emails et cetera because of the constant harassment. All I can say is people need to be careful and made aware. Thank you for posting this video. The work you’re doing is so important. Thank you.

[@tammymoore859]

I’m just so weary after almost 28 years of dealing with this. I’m so tired of the Bible being thrown in my face 😢

[@karenmartin4221]

Why stay?

[@Bea-bi6pu]

@@karenmartin4221 Agree. Get out as soon as possible. It will never make sense because they will just keep changing the "rules" and you'll never please them. Ever.

[@tammymoore859]

@@karenmartin4221 I’ve always stayed for my children. Once they are all graduated, then I’m thinking I will leave. Unless a miracle happens, but I’ve been asking for one for 28 years now.

[@jeffcastetter6122]

Scripture shouldn’t be used to bludgeon people

[@bryguy8203]

Love gives lust takes.

[@debbiehamrick4488]

My brother told me I was going to die in 2 years just like our brother because when my brother refused to help our mom, he read a bible verse implying our brother would die and he did within 2 years. When I said something referring to our mom in front of her, he again read a verse stating I would die. Therefore he thinks I’m going to die too and told me so. And in a exactly 5 months I will prove him wrong!!!

[@nightowl6260]

" The devil knows scripture". This is a gem.

[@RichardTavilla]

I do agree with everything you said I only point of contention is we now throw a lot around words like narcissist, racist, etc,too easily. Words have started to lose their meaning because of this.

[@totalbodybeauty4832]

Thanks so much for your videos. Would you ever consider doing a series on navigating this while married to a narcissist?

[@victoriayork9608]

My BFF needs almost constant sympathy for her many many physical ailments. She is at doctors every week, or the ER. She has called me out before because, as she puts it, I wasn’t sympathetic enough for something. 🙄 And oh boy does she dominate phone conversations! I am DONE talking to her on the phone.

[@novairene6880]

I am no longer a Christian after my toxic marriage, but I appreciate this video. Thank you.

[@victoriaserorian4892]

Jesus never leaves or forsaken us, I hope you will return to the Lord and not not abandon your faith because of what a human being did to you. I too went thru mind blowing things with my X but it made me draw closer to the Lord. Jesus paid it all for YOU. I pray you let Him heal your wounds ded heart and Soul and seek after the lover of your Soul who doesnt deserve to be abandoned because of the sins of a man or woman.

[@johncole3010]

Never compromise your salvation for a shallow person , you are loved greatly by Jesus

[@ebenezerquartey188]

Going through a similar thing. I dont do church anymore. Very weary now of the facade.

[@AndreaBuchanan-f5b]

God loved you!

[@butterflygirl8870]

No, please don't let another person or situation turn you away from Jesus!!

[@matthewball8147]

My stepmother's innocence was stolen as a child (we are all born under the curse, there's only one innocense we have left) by multiple unclean men... She is a shattered malignant narcissist. I feel so sorry for her. I can see how lonely her life is. I can forgive it all, I know where it came from. She is in total turmoil savaged on the inside. I got away... I have always had an undercurrent of belief. Getting away meant I could drop my armor and finally let Christ transform my heart. I was my own fortress within my heart, shutting out everyone including Jesus. Now I forgive and love... He gave me peace and healing from the trauma. Glory to God the Father! I am redeemed by the Son and filled with the Spirit. Lord please make my path clear so I can walk for you, in Jesus name I pray, Amen.

[@annamae-zing]

My husband’s ex-wife is a “Christian” narcissist. Nothing is ever her fault, it was always his or mine or someone else’s. She would bring up everything he’d ever done wrong but don’t ever talk about her past she’ll tell you to get over it. She would post about all the wonderful things she did as a giving Christian and talk about what an amazing mom she is, but she did nothing but completely turned their children against my husband. No he’s not without any fault, but he is not the horrible person she has made him out to be. And now neither of his grown children talk to him because of her lies. Once his child support stopped, so did the communication because his use to her had run its course.

[@CB-68-westcreations]

This is a very informative video. Thanks for the work you put into it. I bet it helps a lot of people.

[@Baronheim]

No eye contact could mean a warm hearted person with Asperger's.

[@ksmithkatcarving]

The old cliche, if they're talking about someone they're talking about you to someone else. The response should be, let's pray. Let's pray for them. and stop the gossip.

[@jac1161]

my therapist said to me after I cried and cried, "what is my probleeeeeeem!!" (So much abuse in my life from home to school to work....I stood for myself but still....always attracted shallow, cold, calloused, silent treatment giving covert narc types and I was sick OF it and FROM it.) "Jennifer, here are your problems, you are a woman, Christian, empath, ptsd from narcissist abuse, and italian. We have work to do. You did nothing wrong, but you are giving to takers and we need boundaries and to learn your self worth. standards were in the gutter because you were lied to the you were too much. True true and true Hardest work we can do, and I've and I've had a lot of pain and suffering in life..this is haaaaard and lonely work .

[@ljpapercrafts]

Thank you for addressing this issue. I've went through this with two past friends and it was a nightmare, But I finally cut the cords, walked away from both of them and it was the best decision i ever made.

[@kathysmith9983]

Wow, this is eye opening to everyone. Absolute truth. Thanku.🙏

[@Jesusfirstlovedus]

So dangerous to label anyone

[@reginarodriguez5027]

Hon it’s not labeling someone, it is calling them out and calling the actions out for what they are. And if you ever experienced the abuse, entrapment, and torment of a narcissist, you will know this. And the scriptures have been given to back it up, not only in the video, but several other comments. Take care! 🙏🕊️✝️🕊️

[@BrandyGline]

@@Jesusfirstlovedus You have to be aware in high alert God's words. When you are born again Christian Holy Spirit leads you. We are to tell our brothers and sisters the truth so they can repent and change! It's to help them. God's words not mine! Narcissist are the furthest ppl from God.

[@DarkPegasus87]

"Hypocrite" is not their nickname; it's their first step. Every narcissist is a hypocrite that values their image above all else. Hypocrisy is the umbrella description. Narcissism is the sub-class within hypocrisy. Fair warning: Not all hypocrites are narcissists. You can be a hypocrite and have a very low sense of self-worth. It's possible that what they advocate truly is the best thing for you, but they won't live by it because they can't change. It's sad.

[@RebekahKauzlarich-j6j]

Instead of constantly labeling everything, can’t we just call it all sin. It’s sin from brokenness.

[@seancahalinchristianbrothe1400]

This video is spot on accurate I was married to a Narcissist She wasn’t Christian, she was pagan. I was a Christian who gave into her beliefs I started to become Narcissistic because I was not only married to a narcissist wife but I was also raised by a Narcissistic Christian father I am constantly putting myself under the Narcissistic Personality microscope and also using scriptures and faith to be more like Jesus Christ Is a slow and constant process Thank you for your insights into these tactics and I think everyone can use these tips to avoid being narcissistic

[@fourteenten6170]

Great psychological minds agree that people willing to call others narcissists are actually on the spectrum themselves. It's called projection. Your actions may look different than the one youre pointing to, but the deeper drivers are exactly the same. Good luck to you.

[@seancahalinchristianbrothe1400]

@@fourteenten6170 very true Malice is the main evil driving force that stems from a wounded heart that breeds more evil. The longer a person lives with unforgiveness the more they become the very thing they hate. Jesus Christ is the answer He calls us to lay down our hatred and forgive others so that we don’t become evil ourselves.

[@fourteenten6170]

@@seancahalinchristianbrothe1400 Interesting opinion. Also you speak about others in your reply, but not for yourself ("I" statements). I hear your truth is: "Jesus is the answer." That is too vague a statement for me to gain substance. I could say relaxation is the answer, meditation, deep internal work on self, etc. There is no clear "answer," as historically, Jesus has yet to prove anything, with the exception of those who believe biblical or other holy book writings, and ascribe normal random human events to their chosen deity. If you were in the Middle East, you would most likely be defending Allah and the Quran.

[@seancahalinchristianbrothe1400]

@@fourteenten6170 there are many people that insist on neutrality or the denial of Jesus Christ The fact is that my narrative is and always has been that there is a God What took most of my life was studying other religions including Islam. Historical studies have proven that Jesus Christ was real and that he did actually heal people and work Miracles. No other person in history can say that. I came to the realization that I am the problem Not many Christians can say that. Many people wear Christianity like a badge thinking that it excuses them and allows them to judge others and justify themselves in their own way. Scripture teaches that we individually are the problem and that Jesus Christ was a the way to reconciliation with the father and he promised to send the Holy Spirit to guide us and teach us individually in the word of God. Real religion is not external Real religion is internal and has to do with self accountability. I was raised by a mean angry drunk father I became a mean and angry person Then God showed me that I was the one who had chosen to become bitter instead of looking to him for the truth. I could go on and on about this but I will sum it up this way. I was born here in the United States and yes I was raised Catholic My salvation does not come from my lineage or where I live My salvation comes from the one man who died on the cross for me and saved my wretched life. My religion stems from that truth and it’s not the other way around and it is not about works.

[@s.w.9809]

Wish I had heard this when I was younger. Right now, I am thinking about those girls I hanged out with in high school. Every conversation we had, they talked about themselves, how great they are and how all the boys wanted them. My role was to listen and admire them. Lost contact with these bimbos decades ago and grateful for it.

[@yvettemarshallTWN]

They behaved like an absolute savage when I didn’t get on board with their limerence (never heard of it before experiencing it 👀). So creepy! It was so shocking and never to be forgotten. Wow. 🤯

[@nancyabbott4695]

What you say is so true. Thank you Also Help?😢 After being married to a malignant narcissist for over 27 years, I finally couldn’t handle it anymore. Our four grown children have had to learn to navigate their own relationships with their father. I have encouraged them to forgive him as a part of their own healing. As a result, two of the four children have canceled me. I miss them very much😢

[@beneciafowler6662]

Narcissists can weaponize their (often cruel) honesty, and even "humbly" confess that they were wrong and ask for your forgiveness, in their false self pretense of worshiper of God.

[@beverleylivock9957]

Just encountered one. Thankfully, God made me aware very quickly and i pulled back. Then the attack came but i didnt add anymore oxygen to it. The fire went out. I was blocked. Hallelujah.

[@TXDHC]

What an oxymoron! Christian narcissist!

[@Kris_Reece]

Isn't that the truth!

[@jsf8145]

Pharisees 🤏

[@cassiafaehayden3683]

Shockingly I noticed all the narcissist signs in my pastor. One of the reasons I jus left the church n decided to stop being afraid to go to school myself to b a pastor

[@cassiafaehayden3683]

I noticed that she would preach one thing. But then treat me the complete opposite way. Like preaching that the poor should b welcomed. N then telling me she doesn't want me at church because I "smell" unless I allow her to wash a load of my clothes, come to church in my pajamas, wait until she has time to give me one of my church outfits, n change in the bathroom. Now I've talked to more than a few ppl who made it clear that I do not smell n she's only saying it because I'm poor. I'm on disability. She also told me my service dog cnt b there because "he" disrupts service. He sits quietly n patiently through the whole service n then doesn't even respond to anything beyond my commands until we leave n start walking home. Very behaved at church. However kids n other ppl do come up n pet him. Even though he wears a do not pet patch on his service vest. I don't mind n neither does he. But the pastor hasn't wanted him there since I got him. Even though she legally cnt tell me I cnt have him because he holds me up. We do have a stalker in the church who won't stay away from us n has started threatening to come to my home n attack me. Because I asked her to leave me alone after she robbed my home n abused my cats. I came to the pastor about my fear n concerns about this girl threatening me n wanting her to stay away from me n my service dog. The pastor told me to stop coming. N then she would preach about not trusting pastors who r clearly in it for the money. If u look at how she decorates her office, the car she drives, how she dresses, how richly the chuch itself is decked out. U cn tell that every bit of her is in it for money. N then I had gotten my carpet torn out n she screamed at me about the professional that came to do it for me for free, because he's family. She'd never seen my house, never been there, knows nothing about it. But assumed that jus because I'm poor every inch of my home is covered w feces, mold, rot, etc. Which is not the case. My home is very clean. I'm severely OCD. However my carpet was very damaged when I moved in. Because the trailers r sold as is. N because I'm poor I cnt afford to pay for 2 homes n repairs all at once. I have to live in it while I remodel n do repairs. Which was something she actually asked me. Y I didn't jus repair everything before I moved in.... must b nice to have so much money to b able to judge someone who doesn't have the money to do that. Lol. N I doubt many ppl even middle class could afford that. So she made that insane demand that I magically come up w money out of nowhere to pay for rent, lot rent, house payment, n repairs. N somehow even though my subfloor is thankfully fine, deemed so by a professional, the pastor who has never been here was all screaming at me that my sub floor needs removed too. N I cnt jus leave it in there. On n on n on about it for an hour. Making me feel like a small n stupid insignificant child. I was actually holding in tears as she screamed n berated n belittled me. N then she asked if I managed to get my service paid for on my phone. I told her I did. But my phone still won't hold a charge. N I need to go w out a phone for a while or have my bf lend me one of his kids old ones while I send it in to b fixed. She started screaming at me for that too. She asked y I even bothered to pay my service if my phone isn't working n acting like I had somehow taken something away from her. Well, I also have a tablet on my service. Because I currently don't have a tv n I like to have something to keep me active w my adhd when I'm away from my phone on the charger cleaning. N if my phone dies, I still have a way for my bf to contact me to make sure I'm OK or take me to the store or come see me. N my apps n internet to pay my bills. So even w my phone not working right, I still need to pay for my service. I cnt keep everything paid or get food or get help if something happens to me w out service. N my bf did give me a replacement phone to use until mine is fixed n told me to keep it incase I ended up needing it again. Every conversation I had w her seemed to either b all about her n what she wants, or in every way verbally abusive. N while I love her sermons, which is what drew me to the church, the way she treats me is not only in complete opposition of her sermons, but of how my grandma taught me a Christian should treat another person. I mean of all Christians a pastor should absolutely b upholding Christian values on how to treat someone. I hold myself to pretty high standards of how I treat ppl. Belittling ppl is never ok. But w her behavior I automatically knew the red flags. Because as I'm sure u know, when u grow up w a narcissist in ur family, u unconsciously seek out other narcissists for years thinking it's normal n the way they treat u is something wrong w u. Until u start to learn it's not u, it's abuse, n start to notice the red flags in ppl faster n faster. It's y I avoid ppl for the most part. Going to church was scary for me. Because my automatic reaction is to trust. But I really wanted a Christian community I could b safe to leave the house n spend time w. So I refused to let my fear keep me from going n told myself I'm safe at church. Good ppl go to church. I'll b ok. I was wrong. But it made me realize I don't need to b afraid to go to school to become a pastor myself. N if I'm afraid to b around ppl I cn jus do it on my yt once I earn my credentials. Idc that I'm 4ft 10 (legal midget) crippled, n seem dumb from fibro fog n adhd. Idc that that makes narcissists think it's OK to manipulate n abuse me like I'm stupid. I think ppl will see how hard I work to get my credentials n how passionate I feel about it n respect me for it. N if not, it doesn't matter. Because I want to do it for me. Like everything I already do on my channel. I do it because I enjoy it n passionate about it. If I ever get enough subs to get paid n put it back into the channel, cool. If not, that's OK. I like what I do n I like if other ppl like it n it's OK if ppl don't. I don't have a lot of subs. But to me it doesn't matter. It's not about getting anything out of it. It's about sharing something I like that maybe someone else likes too. N we cn share that together. Maybe even make a friend over it

[@WakeForestNeighbor]

#2 is highly subjective. No one enjoys criticism and it is rare to find people open to “constructive criticism” especially nowadays. How you were raised is a strong indicator. An overly critical parents can create a defensive adult who has a hard time showing vulnerabilities and dropping defenses and that is way more about creating insecurity than being an actual narcissist. That topic requires hours not a short video.

[@mikelarindaleach8422]

How can a "true" Christian be a narcissist? If you are more than religious, you actually have a personal relationship with God the creator it would have to change. I think there are a lot of "religious" narcissists but not people who walk closely, personally with Jesus.

[@altorins]

Matt. 10:16,17 really sums this up in a nice package. 16 Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be as wary as serpents, and as innocent as doves. 17 But be on guard against people, for they will hand you over to the courts and flog you in their synagogues;

[@dshort01]

I have encountered two Narcissist's in my life that I can clearly identify. One I booted out of my life. The other started to hallucinate eventually, hear voices, etc. It was a gateway to severe mental disease. So it is important to have boundaries.

[@Cloworora]

This is a good video even for the lapsed faithful or nonbeliever.

[@crystallized23]

It’s called spiritual ego in a broad sense, and is extremely common in New Age as well

[@jessicapatton2688]

It’s my mother to a T! She wonders why I was so reluctant to ever want to be a Christian too. They are bad examples and turn more away then they recruit!

[@justkenzie]

Someone in my family is this way... he judges everyone around him, and there's NO open door for theological discussion. He bases everything on subjective experiences and feelings. He refused to watch one of my videos on legalism because there's a skull in the thumbnail! 🤦‍♀️

[@pward8723]

13:26 I do not change minute to minute. (My hubby says I do). My problem is it is hard to feel normal and stable when pain is dictating my life. He claims he hurts all the time too. I never say he does or doesn’t. It’s just hard to be consistent with what I do when being dictated by pain!!

[@The_Life]

This is why we ALL need to be in the Word so we can be aware of what's true belief and not, based on people's fruit. Cutting ourselves off from God's body is not the answer. He is on the throne and has allowed some narcissists into the church but His Church is still His.

[@Solscapes.]

I've never met a preacher that wasn't. Not saying they don't exist, but I had to leave the church at 11, and I KEEP hearing about predators in every major church. And every time I've gone to a new one or to my father's church, they gaslit with long-debunked anti-science, pro-corporate messages, and calls to hate the margenalized and poor. All very opposite to Jesus' message. Remember, a true Christian appreciates feedback.

[@deltag4mer830]

Glad i found this video because its literally my dad. He calls himself with a Christian but hes quite far from it

[@karinaturner-ubu41film]

Just discovered this video and channel. Wow! Thank you for your words of wisdom and honorable handling of God's word.

[@CalifaJohn1]

Religions seem to be a big draw for narcissists. The pageantry, the garments, the hierarchy, the rules to push on other people, The power over others when you are backed by God herself, the list goes on.

[@TrailToughTrailers]

HEY!!! You did SIX, not just five..... thanks for the extra one!!! Seriously, thank you.

[@adelagutierrez6099]

So on point. Wish I had learned this years ago .

[@tysonjohnson710]

It's fine to chime in.. but when they are condescending, it is the thing that will show you the lack of empathy, which is narcissism..

[@mamaGentle]

Spot on! Thank you for the video!

[@seventhson27]

Churches LOVE YOU wen you are packing their pews and filling their plates, but try to go to them when you are really in need and you suddenly become pariah.

[@Fwb316]

I feel the needs for others. I know the need for myself and where it comes from. I control myself and I am lead by my creator. I don’t listen but watch and see to what I need to listen to. If I needed could I truly ask you?

[@dinahsoar6982]

We're all classical narcissists...the clinical narcissist is a horse of a different color and it doesn't matter if they're a Christian or not.

[@KalyD96]

This video is very helpful and eye opening. I’m only recently learning about this sort of topic. I have a Christian friend who pointed out my mother was a narcissist. I am usually careful to go along with that sort of title because it’s thrown around so often these days. But wow.. my mom has blocked me and refused to talk with me for over a year now despite my efforts because I haven’t apologized for a dispute that happened between her and my younger brother who no longer wanted to live with her- she blames me because I made him make that choice. When on the flip side I barely know my teenage brother and told him he can share his troubles with me if he wants and it ended up being all about how toxic it is living with her and I told him he has a choice not to live with her and that I sympathize with him, as I also grew up and lived in that situation. I’m to blame? In her email to me she said I have caused her so much pain she wants to off herself and that God will have vengeance for her. Basically I’ll get what’s coming to me?? Or that I don’t truly love her because I don’t listen to her (when I’ve tried sending cards in the mail). She has blown up at me for “not respecting thy mother” when I have shared my feelings of loneliness from my parents in the past. I’ve been yelled at for not packing up her house for her when she was moving. Phone calls were always about her and what’s good in her life. She doesn’t ask how her kids are. It’s so oppressive what a narcissist does. I’m still confused if I should say sorry or not because as a Christian I should try to? Often times I feel like I’m the problem.

[@valanme]

Thank you for this video. I think I had one or two of these qualities when I was a young foolish man. The Holy Spirit and an amazing wife changed me over time. I bet a true narcissist wouldn't see themselves in this video.

[@jovanniekerk8936]

My father is a narcissist. He keeps a record of other's sin, not his own. He flops back and forth like a wave in the wind, dysfunctionional in all relationships. He calls out others as hypocrites and pharisees. The worst, he tries to influence family against you. Control is his main aim clothed with fake humility and always wanting to help you out of trouble, prince charming the hero, feeding on praise. May God save his soul. Many are praying.

[@holleyhart-todd5368]

This comes from the spirit of pride which comes from the Leviathan principality. The person can be healed IF they will humble themselves and repent. Narrcasism is usually rooted in rejection, abandonment and orphan spirits.

[@Philipnormanbradley19]

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Christianity religions, denominations, churches and ministries that God came to deliver us from their wicked ways and works, from the control of men. God's bless. Philip Norman Bradley. Ambassador for Christ.

[@sheraalanaRev310]

I had a friend that was a Christian and he was a narcissist. It was much easier to spot him because he was only a friend and I wasn't emotionally or physically involved. It was like he didn't have a clue, it was ridiculous. Because of my upbringing, my mother was a narcissist my father is definitely bipolar, all my relationships have been with narcissistic people. I've never had a real friend so it's just me and my dog and it's very lonely, I'm old now and I'm just waiting for Jesus's return. What's your favorite look at the Bible and read the Bible you can see the words are coming off the pages at this point. MARANATHA 📯🕊️👑 I will find my real love there, Jesus, and my real family and friends

[@anthonysanders7469]

The Death Express When The Death Express rolls up to your door, the things that you’re doing, right or wrong you can’t do anymore! Life on earth is short at its best, for we all are facing the acid test. So when writing the poem (of life) make it rhyme, and it must be written on the shores of time. We must write it by faith, though we all like to see. But we can’t write this poem in eternity, so don’t sit on your seat until you hear the beep, get up and start now, awake out of your sleep! What am I sending on the other side? Before The Death Express comes (those wheels) to give us our ride? So get busy, do good, and get involved. And when The Death Express comes, your problems will be solved. Slow down; slow down, so that you may learn, don’t run ahead of our leader, you don’t know where to turn. Learn how to give, how to bear, how to share, Learn how to do good to men everywhere. Now you can watch for the signs as we go. Stay under the blood of Jesus, that washes white as snow. . When The Death Express rolls up to give you your first ride, who is your escort, with a heart full of pride? Too proud to listen, too stubborn to hear, But Wait! Those wheels, those dreadful wheels are rolling near. There’s an escort for every one and who will yours be? I want Jesus in the Holy Ghost to escort me! Speaking of space, there’s room to spare, for this train picks up men everywhere. It transport the rich and it transports the poor. It drops off one generation and returns for more. Those wheels, those dreadful wheels, those death wheels. Let’s face the facts now, and turn around. For why would you let sin forever hold you down? Repent, quit, be baptized in Jesus Name for remission of sins, receive the Holy Ghost and He will escort you in!

[@j.p.9295]

This narcissistic sociopath gave me so much trauma . He wasn't even close to me just College colleagues. Took several years to recover . They are relentless in harming person that don't flatter their narcissistic needs . Apsolute shite.

[@donaldhenderson8194]

I have done a research on narcissists, and there are 27 different things they can do to you to strip you of your identity, shocking isn't it?

[@fritzhamster2506]

Good description. You just described Paul the apostle as well as every human being.

[@nicolebeard9749]

The scripture mentioned around the 6:51 mark is actually Romans 12:3 😊

[@BC-ev4hl]

I can't take much more. 18 years of feeling useless and weak and confused and no worth. And they definitely advertise as a Christian... I've never felt so trapped in my life. No money no car. They made sure I'm stuck.