Krishnamurti Study: What you do unto the least of these you do unto me (1978)

[@avalonmmaresnal4436]

When not enlightened one sees the suffering in the other-world. When enlightened, jumped out of the stream of thoughts and memories, can one still see the "suffering" of the world Or is it a kind of "i don´ t mind what happens"?

[@DavidEArredondo]

Krishnamurti described great sorrow.

[@avalonmmaresnal4436]

​@@DavidEArredondo “If you remain without a single movement of thought, with that which you have called sorrow, there comes a transformation in that which you have called sorrow. That becomes passion. The root meaning of sorrow is passion. When you escape from it, you lose that quality which comes from sorrow, which is complete passion, which is totally different from lust and desire. When you have an insight into sorrow and remain with that thing completely, without a single movement of thought, out of that comes this strange flame of passion. And you must have passion, otherwise you can’t create anything. Out of passion comes compassion. Compassion means passion for all things, for all human beings. So there is an ending to sorrow, and only then you will begin to understand what it means to love. (Ojai, 1976; from Total Freedom)“. Thank you for your help: your clue made me go further into it and now I see clearly.

[@ishanjoshi11]

@@DavidEArredondo yes.. he felt great sorrow... but he also said "you know my secret? i dont mind what happens"

[@Noir-Zephyr]

​@@ishanjoshi11 He said he doesn't mind what happens *to him* not to the world or humanity otherwise he wouldn't have spoken till his last days

[@avalonmmaresnal4436]

@@Noir-Zephyr in this video he says it crystal clear: "The World is Me".

[@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp]

Not a single person change from the teaching of j krishnamurti

[@macrofrommicro6241]

You must have heard it from Osho or someone else but who knows someone might have changed his words are deep.

[@avalonmmaresnal4436]

I do not know. Maybe someone changed and never told. Maybe many changed and never told. Anyway, if so would be true, the result would not be much different from the result of other practices, unfortunate and honestly.

[@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp]

In core of human nature human us selfish but teaching of j krishnamurti falsify the nature of human body the teaching of krishnamurti again create conflict in human mind

[@DM-kv9kj]

Of course nobody has ever changed from his or anybody else's teachings on this...their teachings were always saying that is impossible, that nobody can do it for you. Why are you STILL expecting anybody else to change you? You have to change yourself...how many times do you need to be told the same thing over and over? Stop playing tricks. If you actually want to change, then look where these people were pointing, see it/yourself fully and change yourself. The real reason people don't change is they don't want to. Some minds even go as far as pretending to change by constructing some spiritual ego or nonsense beliefs and pushing them and selling them etc, even trying to feel superior to others "spiritually". The mind has endless tricks and cons for avoiding seeing reality fully and we're all caught in that. That is the reality and that is exactly where these (extremely rare) people have pointed throughout history (most of those pretending to be enlightened are of course charlatans trying to make money, like Osho etc etc). You do not want to change, so your tricky mind comes up with every clever way of avoiding looking at reality fully. Everything this man pointed out was absolutely true, but if you keep looking and distorting it from your particular POV of ego/identity etc, obviously you'll never change.

[@UzakdoguExpressi]

I CHANGEd