Kroeber Marine Ships Clock 1887 Restore for John From Michigan #40

[@gayle4s383]

Damn......one thing right after another! Thanks For Sharing.

[@benjamindejonge3624]

This clock works has a interesting back ground story, the manufacturer had a true passion about this till his death

[@jamesmartin5370]

This one was run through the mill, just glad it became a working time keeper again.

[@brianwarburton4482]

Your patience and perseverance are commendable. I guess you wouldn't be able to do this kind of work without them. I like the way you resist the temptation to just make new parts all the time. An excellent restoration. How this clock managed to get into such a mess over time is unimaginable.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Brian...

[@billg125]

What a saga! Thank you

[@jamesmartin5370]

I believe this one would win for the most butchered movement of the year that was brought back to life. Its a rare one..

[@haridaspanicker5888]

You are a Master Clockmaker! You have restored a valued heirloom and it will tick on for another century!

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thank You.

[@johnsteed265]

Sounds like a throw away to me. Book shelf ornament.

[@jamesmartin5370]

It ended up being a good running time piece. These double barrel vintage ships bulkhead clocks are getting tough to find. My biggest thought was the owner said it worked nonstop for 30 years until it was taken in to a local clockmaker for servicing and it came back not working.

[@ПашаПитецкий]

Багато разів бачив такі годинники,але ні разу не чинив😊, дякую

[@jamesmartin5370]

Ви повинні колись почати їх ремонтувати.

[@ПашаПитецкий]

@@jamesmartin5370 дякую,але ці годинники мені не попадаються чомусь

[@Maldives2011ful]

Thank you so much

[@sjurgabriel]

I´m about to try my first service of a pocket watch without damaging it, and have no ambition (or time left in life) to reach your level of insight and skill. Yet I find it very inspirational to watch your excellent work. Your videoes also have a second function - when I´m about to go to sleep, the sound of all the clocks around and your monotone voice makes a perfect hypnotic soundscape for calming down and slowly escape into a world of dreams. Thank you for sharing.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Great! What make of pocket watch are you servicing. Keep me updated on your progress.

[@sjurgabriel]

I am still at the point where I need to buy more tools before starting. Have found some essentials used, tools with a working history but still as good as new, but must buy more. The watch waiting says "Universal Time Keeper" on the dial and I believe a engraving (7-10-1923) on the inner lid is from the time it was new, so it´s a modern type of movement compared to the ones you have filmed for the channel. I haven´t found a lot about it when googling, but I believe the name is just a "false brand" to make it sound like it´s american from the time the american watches were preferred to the swiss even here in Europe. The movement is swiss. A basic, but nice movement with no makers name visible from the back. I guess I might find more markings when taking off the dial. It´s running when I help it with a gentle shake, and it´s both dirty and with plenty stiff oil in it. The spring feels strange - it will only take a couple of revolutions before it stiffens up. I believe it should make a good practising objekt. Complete, barely running and probably mass produced with parts obtainable.

[@jamesmartin5370]

@@sjurgabriel Yes, I have seen a couple of these, they are commonly called a Swiss Fake. They were made by a Swiss company during the mid 1800s to early 1900s. Designed to appear American and fit nicely in American watch cases. I don't know the value of them, it could be a collectable for someone who collects these types of pieces. If the spring won't wind fully, sounds like it just needs a good cleaning and new oil and should run fine.

[@sjurgabriel]

Thank you for your response. I don´t think it has or will have a value worth reflecting upon, that´s why I bought it for my first try. But I love it anyways 🙂

[@johnwallace7841]

This man is lesson to everyone on how to do anything

[@randallzook5570]

Amazing James most would not even have attempted such a job. Thanks for your videos really enjoy watching them.

[@adamadam-hx1nx]

great work with great patience

[@lostgrunt7833]

That was 2 really nice & interesting videos to go with this clock. Thank you!

[@jamesmartin5370]

A lot of curve balls thrown against me on this one. First time I have seen someone install a hairspring in backwards.

[@stephenvale2624]

I do understand the emotional attachments we have to our heirlooms, but this movement is so far beyond normal repairs, i would never have tried to recover it. I have had rusted out literal barn finds in better shape than this poor tortured timepiece. I would have just left it to be a static display piece if i couldn't locate a donor movement. You have remarkable patience!

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks for the replay, I receive a lot of timepieces that the owners were told are not repairable. I am able to give them hope that these movements can be made to run again, then let the owners decide which way to move forward. Some of them like the above are rare, so only way to bring them back is to make parts for them. Thanks again

[@Paul-yk8bj]

Fascinating to watch a true clockmaker thank you

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Paul, This one had its problems to overcome.

[@josejavierminguez2737]

Bravo bravissimo mr. Martin. Congratulations 👍👏👏👏

[@richards6452]

Thank you for a most interesting restoration, a valuable video for all those interested in clockworks, Kind Regards, Richard

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Richard, There were many different defects to overcome in this movement. best regards

[@bijankumar2922]

I love your brilliant craftsmanship !

[@jamesnicholson3313]

Wonderful demo James, but the previous individual should have been wearing a black and white striped apron from the hall of shame, oh boy the amount of patience you have with such a difficult abused movement so impresses me I could see the balance staff doing the jamacin rumba while you were testing it for accuracy, the new staff looks terrific. Jim from AUSTRALIA.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Jim, All in all the balance wheel came out of it in good shape and keeping time so far to boot.

[@jamesmartin5370]

@@time4clocks I will have to ask the owner next time I talk to him...

[@myqueentitanbug28]

Wow what an amazing job in restoring this old clock and breathing life back into it. Wondeful craftsmanship on remaking the gear teeth and straightening all the bent parts. That must have taken a long time to completely go through and repair what someone shouldn't have even done to that colck. Why is this movemt so rare and hard to find parts for? Like i have heard before if you don't know what your are doing or half a$$ it dont do it at all. It gives others who do a good job a bad reputation.

[@jamesmartin5370]

These movements are rare because they were only made for the marine industry, most of them didn't get salvaged when all the wooden ships went out of service. This one has duel mainsprings, another tough item to find, most marine movements out there today are from about 1920 and forward

[@myqueentitanbug28]

@@jamesmartin5370 Vary interesting and and sad that know one thought to keep the clock before they scrapped the boat. What is the purpose of the dual main spring? Is it for longer running time?

[@jamesmartin5370]

@@myqueentitanbug28 From what I understand, it is to allow for a more uniform power distribution to balance wheel, so better accuracy throughout the range.

[@ronaldlinkenhoker5705]

You are a master. If I was a younger man, I’d see if I could apprentice with you. I thoroughly enjoyed this upload.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Ron, The owner said this was a fine running movement for close to 40 years, but never worked since the last guy layed his hands on it.

[@pauldyck4596]

Very impressive work. You overcame a lot of challenges with this one.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Many defects in this one. I should have shown how I added silver alloy material to tips of escape wheel teeth while rebuilding it, not set up real well where my oxy acetylene welding outfit is to do a video. Working with an eye loupe and a torch, on the teeth was challenging, they ended up coming out just fine. It was a lot like jewelry repair.

[@stephenvale2624]

@@jamesmartin5370 Have you ever considered one of the oxy-hydrogen torches? You put distilled water and an electrolyte chemical into it, it electrically splits the water into hydrogen and oxygen which are then burned in a small jewelers torch. Tiny benchtop footprint, cheap, and very easy to control. Also doesn't have the acetylene stink.

[@jamesmartin5370]

@@stephenvale2624 No I haven't, thanks for the insight, I will check them out and make a decision.

[@1pilotsteve]

Wow what a project... the hacker hands were really inside this clock over the decades. Your skill set is so amazing because of you understanding of this movement .well done..

[@MirceaD28]

Great work in resurrecting this clock. I think the pressure washer at 28:33 should have a bent tab like a hook to prevent it from turning when the regulator is adjusted. It can be clearly seen the remnants at 26:32 (at 11:00 o'clock position). And the hook sits flush with the main plate.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thank You, I can see where a tab would have been where you mention, there is also a chunked out piece near that tab, same size, like there could have been two tabs on that washer. We looked for a long time for an identical movement to help with restoration but these are a rare item, very few left out there to be had.

[@reggievangleason9511]

It is gratifying to know that master horologists still exist. After watching you repair and reverse the many crude blunders inflicted upon the Kroeber, maybe there is hope for my ww2 Japanese Navy clock. It is a rare “Aititokeidenki K.K, Nagoya, Japan” . . . . Please let me know if you can accept a new project.

[@jamesmartin5370]

I'll be gald to accept it, contact me at [e-mail] and we will look further into the subject.

[@reggievangleason9511]

@@jamesmartin5370 Thank you, i just sent an email.

[@Vandal_Savage]

Ooh! I think I've just watched that one 🤗

[@Fumingzeus]

You sir are a true artisan.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thank You, I seem to get a lot movements that have been given up on.

[@waynehilton5443]

Fantastic job and great to watch, very well done 👏.

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Wayne.

[@ctackney1]

Amazing work ! Well done !

[@PappyTom61]

You sir, are an amazing craftsman!!

[@jamesmartin5370]

Thanks Pappy

[@peterlake7521]

Love your precision

[@ChrisEbbrsen]

Very enjoyable! Thank you!

[@max.m.8873]

Wow, 😳 fantastic, super 🦾👍 great video 👍🥰👏 great work 👍👏👍👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@jamesmartin5370]

I don't understand why, but the others said it couldn't be fixed.

[@max.m.8873]

@@jamesmartin5370 probably they did not have the desire to deal with them or did not have your experience and skill

[@tlspurlen6442]

That was great work. Would be interesting to see how all the parts looked during manufacturing.

[@tveksam8347]

Soooo glad I found your channel! Please keep uploading!

[@freakysteve140281]

Looks like someone used it to beat an intruder with. Nice work!

[@Mr1jim]

Owner mentioned someone disguised as a clockmaker got ahold of this movement, made a mess of things , unfortunately there are not many of these Kroeber marine clocks to be found, so most all parts need to be hand fabricated if the ones left in existence are to be kept working.

[@sportclay1]

I can only imagine the hours you put into what any other clock maker would have walked away from. The cost of restoring far exceeded any value (except for sentimental) the clock had. Great job!

[@amrkoptan4041]

a one of a kind master

[@Johnmiller-gm9lm]

Thank you

[@jamesmartin5370]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@davidfisher12865]

I wonder which ship this clock is from and it's history. Glad to see it brought back

[@tig1tig1]

You know, it's almost as if a master clockmaker did those horrible repairs on purpose to test a student or apprentice. Sure would make a good test for them!

[@jamesmartin5370]

This one had a lot of going on, it would have been nice to have found another movement but due to its age and a rare movement no chance of that happening. Actually your close,. The owner said the last guy to have his hands on this clock was an instructor for a horology class at a college. Owner was horrified when got it back and found out why it wouldn't function anymore.

[@tig1tig1]

@@jamesmartin5370 wow, cant see someone doing work like that and being an instructor! I have one almost exactly like this one but luckily all it needed was cleaning and a few bushings.

[@holzgestalt]

excellent !!

[@YUHJKT]

That was amazing.

[@Swanicyouth]

Hi! Excellent work as always. I’d love to know the name of that black & chrome 90° jig / press looking tool you use at the 50 minute mark to tap the balance staff into the balance wheel? Thanks!

[@jamesmartin5370]

watchmakers staking tool Set

[@kkyykk7042]

Excellent

[@palmasyombues]

Master class

[@forevereuropa]

Wunderbare Arbeit👍

[@jamesmartin5370]

Danke

[@reggievangleason9511]

It is gratifying to know that master horologists still exist. After watching you repair and reverse the many crude blunders inflicted upon the Kroeber, maybe there is hope for my ww2 Japanese Navy clock. It is a rare “Aititokeidenki K.K, Nagoya, Japan” . . . . Please let me know if you can accept a new project. My actual name is Ron, in Southeast Iowa.

[@forevereuropa]

Hallo Mr. Martin sie Restaurieren Uhren so gut und wunderschön da sieht man wie viel Kunst Mühe und viel Handwerk darin steckt echt klasse! Zurück zu der Wanduhr die sie hier Restauriert haben ich verstehe nicht ganz warum diese Uhr 2 Aufzugslöcher hat obwohl sie kein Schlagwerk hat, könnten sie mir das mal bitte erklären das wäre sehr nett. 👍😄💪👏

[@jamesmartin5370]

Das Uhrwerk hat zwei Zugfedern, die nur die Zeitbewegung antreiben. Jede Zugfeder ist mit einem Zwischenrad verbunden, das mit dem Mittelrad verbunden ist. Es ist eine Möglichkeit, eine längere Laufbewegung zusammen mit einer besseren Genauigkeit zu erreichen. Diese wurden normalerweise in Schiffschronometern verwendet, viele Schiffsuhren und Fluguhren verwenden ein Uhrwerk mit zwei Hauptfedern.

[@forevereuropa]

Danke James Martin für die tolle Information!

[@bonedrybonsai4109]

Thank you for these videos, really glad to have found the channel & your willingness to share your craft. Are you willing to take on projects through your subscribers? Please let me know how & if you’re willing to correspond. Thank you!

[@jamesmartin5370]

Sure, I help people out all the time. My email is [e-mail]

[@AndreMartens-y5h]

Okay I have a Seth Thomas wall clock that has a movement like this one has two springs to wind up but no alarm or strike what’s that for ??

[@jamesmartin5370]

Double mainsprings help compensate for loss of amplitude that can happen when a clock is operated it also helps to store energy and extend the time between winding.

[@jakehanifee8856]

Mr. Martin what exactly does a broach do? Is it a very fine filing action?

[@jamesmartin5370]

They are a 5-sided, tapered cutting tool. When used the operator attempts to cut equal amounts on both side of a pivot hole, the finished hole ends up being tapered on both side.

[@jakehanifee8856]

@@jamesmartin5370 thank you for always taking the time to reply. I’m fascinated by your skill

[@winstonchurchill3597]

Sometimes the so called "clock repairman" often does more harm than good. Those guys that punch the pinions tight really take the cake!

[@jamesmartin5370]

I agree, many people don't understand the difference between clock repairman and clock maker. This one had more defects on it caused by one repair person than I have ever seen. I should have videoed the actual silver brazing of each individual escape wheel tooth. That was some miniature brazing done on those to build them back to where they needed to be for the pallets to work correctly. Last I hear it was still keeping great time.

[@jjlpinct]

1:04:32 the case looks pretty sad to me

[@jamesmartin5370]

Its seen many years of use, most of it probably in moist conditions.

[@jjlpinct]

All and all I like looks. pretty nice it just looked like a :(

[@jjlpinct]

@@jamesmartin5370 very nice videos! Thank you for taking the time to share!

[@masturohturoh8918]

Ll

[@jamesmartin5370]

thanks