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KSI VS JAKE PAUL.. If They Fought Today, Who Wins?? | THE DEBATE

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The Fight we're all waiting for.. KSI vs Jake Paul. Who wins if it happened today?? and why? Let's Debate!!
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@Ray-zp3lm
@Ray-zp3lm Жыл бұрын
Regardless of what people think the outcome will be, one thing is for sure is that KSI vs Jake Paul must happen in early 2024. The hype has been built for long enough, both fighters are active and fans are beginning to lose their patience.
@user-lc7id7qo5l
@user-lc7id7qo5l Жыл бұрын
I don’t see it happening
@KGamesMain
@KGamesMain Жыл бұрын
@@user-lc7id7qo5lyeh same as much as I want it to happen I just don’t see it
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
it's not gon happen unfortunately
@EXT_Cryptic
@EXT_Cryptic Жыл бұрын
@@itswyattlulyeah coz KSI knows he dosent have the ability to beat Tommy let alone Jake
@kultnavn9815
@kultnavn9815 Жыл бұрын
i heard the same thing years ago
@thomaswilson8080
@thomaswilson8080 Жыл бұрын
Bob the builder jumps in the ring and beats both
@pr98x
@pr98x Жыл бұрын
And Bob the Builder is Pineda's middle name for those who don't know
@zeeshaanhussain4521
@zeeshaanhussain4521 Жыл бұрын
Ksi fanboy cope😂
@pianokey3497
@pianokey3497 Жыл бұрын
@@zeeshaanhussain4521how does this funny comment point to you that they are a fan of either lmao 😂
@zeeshaanhussain4521
@zeeshaanhussain4521 Жыл бұрын
@@pianokey3497 just baiting a ksi fanboy.
@loutboyxoxo
@loutboyxoxo Жыл бұрын
Nah Bob the builder doesn't pull numbers in my opinion
@thomasfrost2723
@thomasfrost2723 Жыл бұрын
I Think it is very difficult to determine the level that JJ is at right now simply because we havent seen him face a tough opponent, I think we will get a clearer idea on who is better between Jake and JJ after the Tommy fight.
@dentyph5169
@dentyph5169 Жыл бұрын
Tommy wins but it goes on how badly he beats jj, if jj puts up a good performance then the Jake Paul fight could still happen.
@the-monocle
@the-monocle Жыл бұрын
Ksi says he's better than any influencer boxer that's lost a fight just because he has zero losses,he needs to be humbled
@thomasfrost2723
@thomasfrost2723 Жыл бұрын
@@the-monocle As much as you say KSI needs to be humbled,I think his ego is the reason as to why he suceeds because he has belief in himself that he takes out any oppenent in the influencers scene
@thomasfrost2723
@thomasfrost2723 Жыл бұрын
@@dentyph5169 True JJ isnt expected to win this fight but regardless of the outcome of JJ v Tommy the JJ v Jake fight should happen, end the debate as to who is better its been too long now
@EA-hz9mg
@EA-hz9mg Жыл бұрын
@@thomasfrost2723his only impressive win was 4 years ago tho 😊 😂
@LND209
@LND209 Жыл бұрын
If KSI loses to Tommy Fury, he NEEDS to fight Jake. If he doesnt accept a Jake Paul fight, hes ducking. If Jake Paul doesnt accept the KSI fight, hes ducking. The fight NEEDS to happen no later than June 2024
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
nah mate this fight anit happening both have to big of an ego 😂
@Mooinator3000
@Mooinator3000 Жыл бұрын
Thing is both of them will just say that it's the other who isn't accepting so at this point they're both just ducking each other
@OiBlake
@OiBlake Жыл бұрын
If? You mean when*
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY Жыл бұрын
Jake Paul isn’t “DUCKING” ksi for the same reason ksi would be Fighting KSI would be going backwards for Jake
@huycao100
@huycao100 Жыл бұрын
while you guys debate about who ducking who, both of them are probably hanging out on some yatch together counting the millions they have been making from this fake beef 🤣🤣🤣
@snowforest1998
@snowforest1998 Жыл бұрын
I think Wade should create some discord to allow his fans to have their own debates in
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
i second this
@darthmaul5068
@darthmaul5068 Жыл бұрын
He literally does lol. im in it
@snowforest1998
@snowforest1998 Жыл бұрын
@@darthmaul5068what is it?
@snowforest1998
@snowforest1998 Жыл бұрын
@@darthmaul5068you have link?
@Drillbitayler
@Drillbitayler Жыл бұрын
Wait, people are saying Jake regressed in that last fight? That's wild. Jake (to me) look like he stagnated for a while. From Woodley 1 and 2, through Fury, he looked a bit better overall on offense, but looked HORRIBLE when he got pressed. He could fight going backwards, but couldn't fight when he got stuck on the ropes, and was terrible at avoiding getting stuck in the ropes. He looked WAY better on both of those fronts in this last fight.
@itsprecept
@itsprecept Жыл бұрын
It's because a lot of people in this scene have a SUPER black and white way of looking at combat sports because of tribalism over their favorite creator(KSI's extremely vocally toxic fans usually, obv not all of them), and boxing purists. For some reason people can't just say Jake is progressing well without catching shit for it, no matter how true it is. It's fair to say that we have more of a grasp on how good Jake is compared to KSI which is why people rank him above him, and it's also fair to say this is the first time we'll actually be able to compare the two because this is KSI's first real, competitive fight since Logan. Jake was definitely more complete here than against Fury. The amount of people saying he sucks because he couldn't sleep Diaz is hilarious because they very obviously don't know who Nate Diaz is.
@vesuvius2444
@vesuvius2444 Жыл бұрын
I think partly why some people hate on the fight is he didn't get the KO and that he slowed his pace down. But I definitely think this shows groundwork for a much more dangerous Jake Paul. One who has more variety and weapons in his arsenal.
@shaunadams6611
@shaunadams6611 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who says he regressed or looks worse is either just lying to not give him credit, knows nothing abt boxing, or is just a hater. KSI saying what he said sounds like he doesn’t know or hasn’t watched jakes fights. He was hands down better, looked more like a boxer than ever, threw almost 500 shots over 10 rounds and didn’t gas. Like KSI doesn’t know u do different things based on the opponent ur fighting. I almost think KSI thinks u just go for ko’s or he’s just trolling. Has he seen his own fights? He’s a new boxer and doesn’t look good. Jake is the better boxer. That said it doesn’t mean KSI can’t win bc jake does struggle when he’s getting hit w a barrage of shots which KSI does. They just need to fight before we no longer care.
@shaunadams6611
@shaunadams6611 Жыл бұрын
@@itsprecepthow dare you come on here w a very reasonable and well thought out opinion! One thing I’ve learned is 99% of fans and even influencer boxers don’t know much abt boxing.
@itsprecept
@itsprecept Жыл бұрын
@@shaunadams6611 I just hate how a lot of tribalism in this community stifles meaningful discussions. Especially because nobody in this scene can just chill with high praises because somehow the super toxic KSI fans will swoop in and say "BUT THEY AREN'T EVER BEATING KSI" and downplay them at every turn. It happens with Jake, it happens with Salt Papi, it happens with Slim, it happens with Anthony Taylor........I hate how people in this scene don't wanna see greatness exist in more than one form.
@PMraz
@PMraz Жыл бұрын
KSI fans are the only ones saying his performance was poor. I saw a more complete boxer in Jake this fight.
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. Жыл бұрын
they watched MMA hour ksi being interviewed by Ariel and they r repeating all the nonsense ksi said on there.
@nab4205
@nab4205 Жыл бұрын
yeah, literally everyone that actually knows boxing says that was a good performance from Jake. And the funny thing is, that was Jake's warmup fight to get back on a winning streak and test his new skills. If you have nate diaz as a warmup fight that is insane. Ksi's warmup fights were Swarmz, Pineda, Tempera and Fournier who all suck and would get mauled by Nate Diaz
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
agreed
@Andycalixtro
@Andycalixtro Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@KKOOLSKOOL
@KKOOLSKOOL Жыл бұрын
@@nab4205nah ong u just spoke straight facts
@Theman-yo4ek
@Theman-yo4ek Жыл бұрын
Crazy how short of time you and sensei have known each other, seems like you guys have been doing this since forever. Best coverage channel in the KZbin sports scene 👌
@MAT-wn5fr
@MAT-wn5fr Жыл бұрын
Joe Fournier, starting to have some success in round 2 against KSI, needs to be mentioned more. No matter how good KSI's cardio is, he will slow down due to his style.
@Tom-js3iz
@Tom-js3iz Жыл бұрын
Lmao what success
@sadge6338
@sadge6338 Жыл бұрын
@@Tom-js3izbasically in the second round of that fight, Joe was starting to time KSI’s jabs and punches pretty well and Joe is much worse than Jake and Tommy so if you’re a KSI fan, it’s something to be worried about. I think Joe had a chance to make it past the second if he didn’t try to clinch, I think he should’ve just ran around the ring and stalled for time and then waited for a better moment to clinch, either way KSI would’ve won but Joe could’ve made it last longer if he was better. I don’t see KSI winning against Tommy since those kinds of opens will definitely be exploited during their fight but it does make the debate between him and Jake much more interesting
@MAT-wn5fr
@MAT-wn5fr Жыл бұрын
​@@Tom-js3izDidn't say it was a lot of success, but he was starting to find his timing and land a little before the elbow. Compare it to the first round, where he looked completely out of his depth. Who knows exactly what would've happened if the elbow didn't land. I think KSI still would've won, but Joe ate big shots and was still standing.
@florzy
@florzy Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t call it success it could be a potential of success. Joe mabye timed two jabs in that second round
@Tom-js3iz
@Tom-js3iz Жыл бұрын
@@MAT-wn5fr After the overhand Joe was rocked, KSI gets his glove on that and it's the same result.
@bunfagam3021
@bunfagam3021 Жыл бұрын
Jake Paul wins right now, simple. Let’s see how JJ does against Timmy before we jump to conclusions.
@Leeyung2
@Leeyung2 Жыл бұрын
Agreed we have to see him get tested first
@codyjohnson6427
@codyjohnson6427 Жыл бұрын
I don't even know anymore. I've been saying that it would be a close fight from way before ksi came back to boxing. I'd still lean towards Jake, but it'd be a fun close fight
@dcdmacosey
@dcdmacosey Жыл бұрын
Timmy Firy
@FraZzJ
@FraZzJ Жыл бұрын
That's not how fighting works. Comments like these are so fking stupid. There's no way to tell who would win right now.
@Lonegunmanonthegrassyknoll
@Lonegunmanonthegrassyknoll Жыл бұрын
I agree..and I can't stand Fake Paul but he would beat the bag out of JJ
@JGoldy03
@JGoldy03 Жыл бұрын
It's so difficult because I feel like we all know exactly who Jake is as a fighter, but we still know so little about KSI. He hasn't been tested at all. Tyron Woodley, if they hypothetically fought, would be KSI's hardest oppoenent by far, but for Jake, he's taken tougher fights against Silva, Fury, and Diaz. So once KSI finally gets an actually test against Tommy, we will finally have more of an idea of how a KSI vs Jake fight will go.
@jorgegc7332
@jorgegc7332 Жыл бұрын
Tommy fury is gonna be Ksi's hardest opponent
@JGoldy03
@JGoldy03 Жыл бұрын
@@jorgegc7332 Tyron Woodley, if they hypothetically fought, would be harder than anyone KSI has fought so far. KSI hasn’t fought Tommy Fury yet.
@Andycalixtro
@Andycalixtro Жыл бұрын
Lets not forget Tommy is gonna improve too just like ksi and jake paul...... This is gonna be tougher than I thought
@sadge6338
@sadge6338 Жыл бұрын
Some people don’t think so which I disagree, Tommy’s family won’t let him slack off, even his dad has publicly stated how the fight with KSI could be tougher than they think, all Tommy needs to do to be significantly better is following up his jabs and specifically in a defensive manner. He kept falling into the same trap of getting clipped with Jakes jab and over hand because he’d never had anyone set up shots like that, I think if he can fix that issue, it’ll be a much easier night for him, plus he’s shown to have an impressive chin
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
Tommy got dropped by a jab which is embarrassing he better improve if he wants a cleaner win against Jake in rematch
@davidbateleur8357
@davidbateleur8357 Жыл бұрын
What you havent mentioned is that this influencer boxing came out of online beef between influencers. What we need is two big name influencers to have a massive drama and rivalry, and then decide to settle it in the ring. Thats the only way to replace KSI and Jake.
@UPI-rk7sn
@UPI-rk7sn Жыл бұрын
I think 1 has to be out of Kai Cenat/Speed
@Vvs607
@Vvs607 Жыл бұрын
tate v Logan would be 10 x bigger
@jamesjohnston1297
@jamesjohnston1297 Жыл бұрын
You need influencers with a big platform and athletic potential. It's hard to see Mr Beast doing it. Joe Rogan never would, but him VS Andrew Tate for charity would break the internet.
@greenskies1291
@greenskies1291 Жыл бұрын
People don't realize that jj has ran from a lion without food or water for days and survived. Has jake done that? I think not. Jj win easily.
@extratropicalcyclone8567
@extratropicalcyclone8567 Жыл бұрын
He also cries and goes berserk when he sees a small insect, definitely got jj winning if there is a insect flying in the ring
@greenskies1291
@greenskies1291 Жыл бұрын
​😂
@SonicSwift99
@SonicSwift99 Жыл бұрын
If we factor in power scaling, then KSI has canonically beaten Thanos in a Reddit video therefore giving scaling him above a Marvel high tier. In conclusion, KSI should stomp Jake within the first millisecond of round 1. Checkmate Jake Paul fans.
@u4zaEDITS
@u4zaEDITS Жыл бұрын
Jake Beats KSI
@butchdabayboss7073
@butchdabayboss7073 Жыл бұрын
What the fuck does that have to do with boxing??
@brmawe
@brmawe Жыл бұрын
So a lot of people are saying that Jake regressed apparently which isn't true cause When's the last time Jake was looking at his opponent landing fluid shots? Especially during the 5th round after he dropped Nate where he was landing on will on Nate, the uppercut, 1-2-1-1. Every other time (Woodley 1&2, Silva, & Tommy) he's duck his head, smoother himself from any opposition to land anything. His eye coordination has gotten better, he's not overextending on damn near EVERY single shot, landing punches in the phone booth, etc. It ain't perfect but he is getting better, just even the smallest improvements can have a big success.
@ryanleonidas6839
@ryanleonidas6839 Жыл бұрын
Most of them are KSI wankers, Jake looked way worse against Tommy, ducking his head, spamming one punch, not looking at his opponent when throwing etc, He improve a lot against Nate.
@KKOOLSKOOL
@KKOOLSKOOL Жыл бұрын
@@ryanleonidas6839yea I feel the same in my opinion, was shocked at the mass reaction after the fight, but I know I shouldn’t have been
@Tom-js3iz
@Tom-js3iz Жыл бұрын
@@ryanleonidas6839 Joke Paul fan detected 😭😭💀
@Bjjboxing
@Bjjboxing Жыл бұрын
I don't think Jake Paul regressed, but he is definitely not that good. As a boxer nate is absolutely terrible. He doesn't even know how to throw a jab or a basic 1-2. He walks into range. Can't cut of the ring and throws arm punches. With all these disadvantages and being well past his prime he still had a competitive fight with Jake. Jake was supposed to ko or tko nate. Jake's performance was not impressive but he has improved
@champr6844
@champr6844 Жыл бұрын
@@Bjjboxing wasnt competitive tbh, Jake dominated by a landslide
@shigeo6973
@shigeo6973 Жыл бұрын
Jake would kill Ksi bro
@MoonManMMA
@MoonManMMA Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 and the world is flat
@shigeo6973
@shigeo6973 Жыл бұрын
@@MoonManMMA Dont kid yourself man. No bias look at the performance of each of them. As much as i dont want it to be true Ksi would lose
@Bt26x
@Bt26x Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched all of Jakes fights & he progresses every fight. He’s come along way from that first fight. He lives, breaths & eats boxing. It’s obvious he’s very passionate about it by the effort he puts into his training. It’s made me have a new found respect for him as a “boxer.” I wrestled & boxed in HS, then started training Muay Thai, boxing & BJJ at a local gym. Just training & sparring is tough enough & it takes a lot of dedication. If you’re not in there at least 4-5x a week, you can barley get through a class. I respect anybody that has the balls to step into a ring & fight or train for hobby. So I don’t hate on any of these guys whether I like them or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jamesjohnston1297
@jamesjohnston1297 Жыл бұрын
When Jake stepped up from fighting a KZbinr, a basketballer and a wrestler to Tyron Woodley - it got harder. KSI hasn't taken that step up, so on paper yous have to favour Jake.
@ShamahUzele
@ShamahUzele Жыл бұрын
Wade, The most level headed guy in this whole influencer boxing scene. No bias no bs
@williamwarrenburg8134
@williamwarrenburg8134 Жыл бұрын
Laughable.
@KPG790
@KPG790 Жыл бұрын
Haha you are definitely trolling and I love it
@boxingisfun5612
@boxingisfun5612 Жыл бұрын
​​@@williamwarrenburg8134who is more level headed and non biased?
@LovedByYou
@LovedByYou Жыл бұрын
You can tell the difference if how both Sensei and Wade speak about KSI. Sensei speaks with a lot of optimism, Wade speaks with a lot of cynicism.
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
wade is just speaking facts. ksi isnt that good
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
@@lolcow6668nah he right u just a Jake Pauler
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
@@qy-exotic7717he’s wrong lol, sensei gives the right amount of credit wade doesn’t.
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
@@tsgrapiidz6970 tell me when he didnt give ksi the right amount of credit
@LovedByYou
@LovedByYou Жыл бұрын
@@lolcow6668 I’m observing how they speak…. If anyone is glazing, it’s how overhyped Wade makes Jake
@Espi1125
@Espi1125 Жыл бұрын
Dayum an hour?? We EATIN today
@NeWayMan70
@NeWayMan70 Жыл бұрын
Wtf happened to KSI's voice on the MMA hour clip 😂😂
@arlindblaze4148
@arlindblaze4148 Жыл бұрын
I still want to know who tf KSI has even beat to talk like that💀 Sure Jake Paul might have beat retired or old fighters, but thats where Jake has KSI beat. He is fighting people witg actual experiance, where KSI has beat your average 9-5 costco employees excluding Logan Paul💀 Dude is such a joke.
@maxxx2901
@maxxx2901 Жыл бұрын
Any opportunity wade can take to tell his viewers jake will beat ksi he will take 😂 swear I’ve heard this same conversation everytime I’m on the channel
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
I swear they talk about ksi vs Jake every week now, it’s annoying af I wish they’d talk more about salt papi slim for example
@jaysnipez2522
@jaysnipez2522 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised sensei could even pay attention to the fight with that Ben guy interviewing him the entire time
@ReubA
@ReubA Жыл бұрын
Imagine if wade commentates this fight
@platinumpete5160
@platinumpete5160 Жыл бұрын
itll probably be keem unfortunately but that would be sick
@maxwelll9423
@maxwelll9423 Жыл бұрын
@@YousufS16I wouldn’t be surprised if keem manages too, misfits loves 🍆 riders and keem is a huge one
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. Жыл бұрын
Thats what Wade has been trying to do i think, so it can be the big up yours to mams taylor bcoz mams thinks he controls all of nisfits when its actually ksi who owns it. i could b wrong but for a few weeks ive been seeing wade saying many things that shows he wants to b on 09 commentary still hoping ksi takes him. obviously i could b wrong lol
@anime-world761
@anime-world761 Жыл бұрын
That will never happen
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
​@@platinumpete5160hope not keem sucks at commentary
@MadAtMax.300Blackout
@MadAtMax.300Blackout Жыл бұрын
Trying to knock out Diaz is about like trying to kill a zombie by punching it with whatever oz boxing gloves lmao
@SparkkyBojangles
@SparkkyBojangles Жыл бұрын
This is insane. Jake is miles better but neither of them would get into an Olympic team.
@Simi769
@Simi769 Жыл бұрын
Jake Wins. Go watch the Fournier vs KSI fight back. That right there is uppercut city, everytime he punches his head goes down with no guard. I don't understand how ppl watch this and think he can "destroy" Jake Paul. KSI even turned his back when he fought Fournier. I want KSI to win but i don't see it happening. KSI has one thing and that is POWER. If KSI doesn't knock Jake out. Jake Wins.
@jamesduignan8864
@jamesduignan8864 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but obviously in sparring he’ll be training more smarter for jake, he did need to have his hands up against fraudnier
@HereForMma
@HereForMma Жыл бұрын
Jake consistently gets tagged by uppercuts
@keithromero7181
@keithromero7181 Жыл бұрын
@@lolcow6668almost every decent shot he lands gets his opponents attention what are you talking about? You gotta be a hater to say that man don’t got power
@TomoCooking
@TomoCooking Жыл бұрын
​@@lolcow6668didnt ksi ko temperr?
@Kdubpiw
@Kdubpiw Жыл бұрын
KSI turned his back because he threw a shot and in the middle of it Fournier ducked and like ran towards him in a tackling motion. And it wasn’t a turned back more of a turned side. But a weird boxing move from Fournier caused a weird boxing reaction from KSI.
@MehrdadParthian
@MehrdadParthian Жыл бұрын
i don't know what you guys are smoking but, a 38 year old jiu jitsu practitioner, who's instincts are all for an mma fight, where his slap punches are just a set up for a take down, and he's 38 years old, well past his prime, put through the ringer many times in his career, and is frankly totally washed up, was able to go 10 rounds with jake and got punched many times and even got knocked down once, and he was still able to fight ? that just proves 2 things: A. jake is defensively unresponsive, B. he has no power in his punches whatsoever. this fight more than any other had me believing that Jake is very vulnerable and offensively lackluster !
@notlydico913
@notlydico913 Жыл бұрын
Been a fan of u for so long glad to see your happy
@Mr.Vagabond
@Mr.Vagabond Жыл бұрын
Big things improved by jake watch his last fight no footwork he has that now. Combination punches he didnt have that he has that now. His gas tank has clearly improved. No other pro has ever done 10 round fights within 8 pro fights so give props to jake paul!
@sethdavis459
@sethdavis459 Жыл бұрын
It’s so 50/50 because both fighters strengths, match the other fighters weaknesses. Both could land a big one at any moment. Jake is more traditional, JJ is more reckless. If you’re a betting man, go with Jake, if you’re voting from the heart, it’s hard for me not to give it to JJ
@lilgabriel0517
@lilgabriel0517 Жыл бұрын
1:08:33 Sensei said how many round like tony stark said “tell me his name again” 😂 totally felt like this is it! The big and final one to end them all lmao
@fatherhammer3105
@fatherhammer3105 Жыл бұрын
We’re in the endgame now…
@dripsonice413
@dripsonice413 Жыл бұрын
His footwork, head movement, and stamina were the main things I came away with after the fight thinking he needed to work on a little more. Overall i thought it was a good performance by him
@darshsrivastava8939
@darshsrivastava8939 Жыл бұрын
everybody will keep doubting ksi and he gonna keep proving them wrong
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
doesnt work like that lmao
@kairodumba7924
@kairodumba7924 Жыл бұрын
Yea no shit when he's been fighting nobodies
@darshsrivastava8939
@darshsrivastava8939 Жыл бұрын
@@kairodumba7924 watch he will knockout tommy
@kairodumba7924
@kairodumba7924 Жыл бұрын
@@darshsrivastava8939 when the fight happens and he does knock tommy out then you can talk. But for now stop sucking him off
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
@@darshsrivastava8939 you mean when tommy knockouts ksi
@liammorgan1217
@liammorgan1217 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a 50/50 fight I’m a ksi fan btw. The only issue ksi will give jake is his pressure and I don’t think jake can handle it constantly but.. if jake manages to control ksi pressure then it’ll be closer than anybody will think!
@EvolvefitnessBemore
@EvolvefitnessBemore Жыл бұрын
I can 100% see why people see massive improvements and also why people think he regressed. I think the fight is honestly a toss up jake struggled with the very unorthodox fighting of Nate ksi is also very unorthodox and if he lands that much jake won’t survive, but also jake did show some great shot selection and countered effectively at times and ksi will not be as durable as Nate so it really could go either way. If ksi is bouncy and gets in flurries then exits he could win, but if jake can manage the range and counter effectively he will win.
@EvolvefitnessBemore
@EvolvefitnessBemore Жыл бұрын
@@lolcow6668 lolfatcow*
@zakeur5146
@zakeur5146 Жыл бұрын
@@lolcow6668Jake paul meatrider😂
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
Who has he knocked out in one shot that wasn’t standing still? Nate Robinson ran forward and it took a few shots for him
@EvolvefitnessBemore
@EvolvefitnessBemore Жыл бұрын
@@tsgrapiidz6970 explain to me where I said anything about jake knocked people out in one shot?
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
@@EvolvefitnessBemore I meant to @ the other guy, apologies.
@skrimshawman29
@skrimshawman29 Жыл бұрын
The argument from KSI is really dumb, there are so many amazing boxers that dont jab often (ie canelo), jakes output was the HIGHEST it has ever been, and the cardio was MUCH improved
@KP.2004
@KP.2004 Жыл бұрын
36:19 i wanna add on too this, Tyrone Woodley 1 with the right hook that put jake on the ropes could be a great example of what jake does compared to JJ , Jake is more on survival defense mode staying on the outside with his guard up jabbing to get the opponent out of reach while JJ is more on the "imma dog it out and imma give everything ive got and will not go down" side of things and stil throwing shots like he didnt get hurt in the first place. for JJ the Tommy Fury fight will show the complete comparison of the 2. As a HUGE KSI fan i still think jake is a more complete boxer where as JJ has more Raw power and will give his opponents a hard time adjusting to his Awkward style.
@allstar3765
@allstar3765 Жыл бұрын
We need another Vidal and wade collab
@JordanTwelve
@JordanTwelve Жыл бұрын
Its hard to say yet because we haven't seen KSI against a decent boxer. Tommy is his real test. I have to go with Jake basis on what we have today. Jake's fought better competitors Comparing KSI and Jake Paul opponents… Joe Weller < Deji Logan Paul > Gib Logan Paul > Nate Robinson Swarmz = Askren Pineda < Woodley Temperrr < Woodley Fournier < Anderson Silva/Tommy Fury/Nate Diaz Although who knows who would win time will tell who is the better boxer as Wade says I don't have those answers.
@heightpolice6852
@heightpolice6852 Жыл бұрын
I would say Askren was better at that time then Swarmz
@BONNIE12YT
@BONNIE12YT Жыл бұрын
@@heightpolice6852nah the same
@BONNIE12YT
@BONNIE12YT Жыл бұрын
Fournier beats Diaz
@bboi6069
@bboi6069 Жыл бұрын
@@BONNIE12YT your chatting bull mate
@morten8586
@morten8586 Жыл бұрын
Honestly we cant even say who would win because we havent seen ksi beeing tested yet. And the one time ksi was tested against logan he almost lost and had luck with the referee
@GTA6WeeklyRoundup
@GTA6WeeklyRoundup Жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it’ll be till Wade gets an opportunity to commentate a Darts event 😂😂
@aniruddhnair3212
@aniruddhnair3212 Жыл бұрын
Loving these debates. Keep em coming, im here for it. I soo want you back in the misfits scene. Hopefully you come back.
@holden9278
@holden9278 Жыл бұрын
I think KSI gets overrated a lot he's fought nothing but straight bums he hasn't been tested at all, and you can criticize Jake for fighting old retired ufc fighters, but they're waaay better than who KSI fought if KSI beats Tommy or at least looks good against Tommy I'll be a little more impressed, and if that's his real assessment of Jake vs. Nate and he's not trolling his boxing knowledge ain't the best lol
@MAT-wn5fr
@MAT-wn5fr Жыл бұрын
The MCU comparison doesn't work. It's not just because the movies aren't about the big names, it's because the movies have not been good. The MCU is currently building up to the next big event. The hype will likely be back.
@paleranger2.057
@paleranger2.057 Жыл бұрын
I thought jake looked great and proved way more with how smart he fought. Not to mention the cardio and experience he gained.
@Bodoko
@Bodoko Жыл бұрын
i’m a fan a ksi but maybe jake didn’t look as good in this fight is because it was his first 10 round fight and he is adjusting to his new team, jake also said after he didn’t try to box him normally because nate wasn’t boxing
@James-wh7ty
@James-wh7ty Жыл бұрын
wade you forget jake does attack when people rush in, he knocked nate robinson out cold like that. Although he didn’t do that much in the Nate Diaz fight but it’s because he evolved from the duck and chuck tactic.
@hrtfeltt_
@hrtfeltt_ Жыл бұрын
yall are genuinley riding jake
@Leeyung2
@Leeyung2 Жыл бұрын
Bruh explain how, they are being fair ksi faught bums compared to Jake
@maxwelll9423
@maxwelll9423 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@Leeyung2he can’t explain it ksi fans don’t know shit about boxing lol
@TheRyaniscoolio
@TheRyaniscoolio Жыл бұрын
More likely than not KSI will get knocked out if Jake and him fight right now. JJ is too wild to the point where he lacks technical skill and it even gets worse as the fight goes on. Whenever he's being drained of energy he gets even MORE sloppy and throws those Haymakers were all very familiar with. I don't like either of the guys more specifically Jake, but if they were to fight right now Jake wins within three rounds via knockout.
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
have jake inside of 6
@DemonSnowKing
@DemonSnowKing Жыл бұрын
also not only did nate not throw any jabs but he didnt go to the body at all really. something weve seen JJ do in the past. to use this fight as a barometer to how a ksi jake fight goes i dont think is fair for either side tbh. cuz if jj lands how nate did jj wins imo, but if jake adjusts and gets better at an inside game then jake can win.
@bball5104
@bball5104 Жыл бұрын
hot take-I wish Jake and KSI fought first and were the ones to become friends. Jake is so much more tolerable-big ego yes, and his choice of fights are irksome. That said, he’s not an outright scammer who has faked personal development multiple times. Sucks to see that the two guys with some level of authenticity are beefing while the one without plays the middle.
@EA-hz9mg
@EA-hz9mg Жыл бұрын
Tbf to jake his opponents make sense for how long he’s boxed
@Wyattsfighttalk
@Wyattsfighttalk Жыл бұрын
When it comes to willpower i think the will to win is more important in the build to the fight then it is actually during the fight. For instance i believe ksi would be more willing to go till death in the gym to make sure he wins and im not sure jake would go as far in the gym. But that doesnt mean jake is weak willed by any stretch.
@emmdubb
@emmdubb Жыл бұрын
The willing to do what it takes is key. The way I see it not only do you have to be willing to die in the ring but you have to want to be there. You have to enjoy it. I think whoever enjoys it more will win. KSI takes round 1 for me but anything after becomes more and more Jake. I think he likes the deep water.
@noregerts478
@noregerts478 Жыл бұрын
Some people dont think so but jake looked great in that fight, like a real boxer for sure, ksi still looks like an influencer boxer
@Bmwqxtmop
@Bmwqxtmop Жыл бұрын
Love the debate series!
@kathykinder3137
@kathykinder3137 Жыл бұрын
You need to interview Jake again
@k3nsh0.
@k3nsh0. Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the KSI vs Jake Paul fight is like waiting for GTA 6 to come out...
@grey145
@grey145 Жыл бұрын
Jj is one of those guy who only fought bums and get wins to rank himself above all 🤣
@fly_wild
@fly_wild Жыл бұрын
I feel like no knock outs maybe a knock down but not a knock out so it would go to decision by jake as the winner
@kindajuicy8629
@kindajuicy8629 Жыл бұрын
Remember that Tommy will Get better tho
@luizme4326
@luizme4326 Жыл бұрын
Y’all forgot abt when jakes head got cut open in the second fight
@SoulAlmighty1660
@SoulAlmighty1660 Жыл бұрын
ksi hasnt even fought someone who understand the basic fundementals of boxing let alone can box. jake fought woodley twice and anderson silva and silva has a good chance of beating ksi
@emmdubb
@emmdubb Жыл бұрын
The possibilities i see: KSI wins rounds 1,3,6 in a long fight. Loses decision. KSI knocks Jake out or wins by stoppage in rounds 1-3 Jake knocks KSI out in rounds 2 or 4-6
@djthegoat4819
@djthegoat4819 Жыл бұрын
Jake Paul has fought more than twice the amount of rounds as LSI (49 to 23), fought tougher opposition, beat tougher opposition, has more experience… How is this fight even debatable, it hasn’t been debatable for years
@wicked521
@wicked521 Жыл бұрын
People who can become the next ksi,jake, and logan are; (it will never be the same but yknow) Salt papi, slim, anesongib, king kenny, ishowspeed, kai cenat, adin ross, Nunes (if he decides to keep boxing), Deji, Swarmz, Walid, Deen, Jarvis, Mcbroom maybe, lmk anyone else :)
@LapsyyYT
@LapsyyYT Жыл бұрын
I will say ksi vs jake will go like ryan vs davis ksi will be dominant first round but jake tries to outpace ksi n tries to use offense to cause defense probably even second too until jake uses his jab to hit ksi with a suprise shot that drops him and he loses his confidence (not saying he gets rocked he just get dropped n gets back up) ksi is a COCKY guy… so him getting dropped will kill his ego ESPECIALLY getting dropped by jake. And then into the later rounds as ksi pace and output is dropping cause he is scared of getting dropped permanently… jake starts to overwhelm ksi…potentially leading to a stoppage…if the fight is 10 rounds or 12 i see jake either winning by the 8th or 9th round by stoppage or ko or jake decision potentially leading a either 6-4 or 7-3 lead (for 10 rounds). Or a 8-4 lead🤷🏽‍♂️. Jake is a great counter puncher if jake works on using his jab more and his defense cause jake offense looks amazing jake can be the ultimate counter to ksi “endless” offense.
@LapsyyYT
@LapsyyYT Жыл бұрын
I can even see jake getting dropped early then him getting it back in like round 4 or 5
@rebalkhayyat953
@rebalkhayyat953 Жыл бұрын
If JJ wins, it’s gonna be his explosiveness that will get him the win. I see a TKO just like the Floyd vs McGregor fight
@brandonwest5745
@brandonwest5745 Жыл бұрын
And as for that survivor tag🤦‍♂️ what’s next a WWE cage match featuring the undertaker.
@JHolland
@JHolland Жыл бұрын
Theoretically jake has a better resume by far over ksi , ksi has just wasted his opponents other than joe , Joe shoulda been his first or second fight ngl , then woodley and then jake and then tommy. Even if ksi some how beat tommy it don’t mean he can beat jake , styles make fights
@way2regular
@way2regular Жыл бұрын
Realistically, to be logically it’s fair to think Jake could win against ksi but I think ksi would win because of his pressure, endurance and cardio. Jakes main problem is cardio and his ability to handle pressure. Ksi has the power to back his pressure and the cardio to carry on. Jakes cardio has improved but even against nate Diaz who had no power the whole fight and barely had pressure most of the rounds maybe 25-30%, Jake got combo’ed couple times and also didn’t have as much energy in the later rounds. Ksi had that cardio against Logan in the late rounds he kept the same pressure, fair enough his technique is outrageous but it works sometimes because of the awkwardness. And I don’t think it’s a breeze against Jake because he is technical and also has good shot selection and the pressure with the power n the cardio to carry on it will too much for Jake. But again it’s my opinion
@fl8704
@fl8704 Жыл бұрын
Wades issue is thinking jake some flawless who aint gonna get tag
@harrisonpugh3531
@harrisonpugh3531 Жыл бұрын
how is Jakes issue cardio? Threw 500 punches in a 10 round fight. Whats KSI's highest output? When has KSI been pressured offensively? Jake and KSI are on entirely different levels.
@olivermolloy1054
@olivermolloy1054 Жыл бұрын
Jake just went ten rounds with Nate, ksi hasn’t gone more than 6 rounds since 2019, that cardio statement all ksi fans say hasn’t been proven.
@Rexlee1123
@Rexlee1123 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why people are saying KSI clears Jake is because they know the level at which Jake is atm, whereas they don't truly know the level KSI is at. KSI's reputation as a fighter is still being hyped up considering how he low diff'd temper and was seemingly dominating joe fournier (before the elbow knockout). Whereas Jake has been progressing at a slower rate ever since his fight against silva and woodley. We still haven't seen KSI get truly tested ever since the logan paul fight, so this causes many people to speculate about his potential as a fighter. This is kinda similar to how Jake was hyped up and seen as the best influencer by far after knocking out ben askren and defeating tyron woodley. But ever since the Tommy fury loss, his hype as a fighter has died down a bit.
@muweed_
@muweed_ Жыл бұрын
Jake went 10 rounds against a 38 year old man who prolly smoked a pack several minutes before the fight. JJ's punches will be different than what the Stockton-man put up
@redmond4577
@redmond4577 Жыл бұрын
aye first comment, much love boys! keep up the good work.
@vanitasssu
@vanitasssu Жыл бұрын
Wade killed me with the MCU analogies🤣
@United_Wings
@United_Wings Жыл бұрын
Jake
@g.o.a.t.171
@g.o.a.t.171 11 ай бұрын
“How do you go from A to D?” Usually a low blow.
@kl1467
@kl1467 Жыл бұрын
If jj can build both a karate style + pure boxing style and switch between both styles seamlessly i think it will be extremely dangerous for anyone who fights him. Obviously difficult to achieve, but not impossible
@brandonadam7167
@brandonadam7167 Жыл бұрын
Not for Tommy Fury. But yes, dangerous for anyone in YT Boxing
@Z4NKA1
@Z4NKA1 Жыл бұрын
That style is awful, he fights like an mma fighter yet you guys complain that jake can only beat mma fighters 😂 jake vs ksi is a style mismatch it’s gonna be like bud vs Spence and you’ll realize how one sided this “fight” actually is 🤦‍♂️
@mewgiah8057
@mewgiah8057 Жыл бұрын
Wade: do you think? Sensei: JJ has that determination.... Wade cuts Sensei off: Yeah but Jake. Sensei: I agree. However let me explain.... Wade talks over Sensei: So do you think? Pretty much the entire podcast. Wade asks questions, but doesn't allow him to speak 😂
@qy-exotic7717
@qy-exotic7717 Жыл бұрын
ok
@Vvs607
@Vvs607 Жыл бұрын
its a debate
@AndreChavezfm
@AndreChavezfm Жыл бұрын
@@Vvs607a debate is letting both sides speak
@theofficialskippa
@theofficialskippa Жыл бұрын
So true lol. Love the Breakdown boys but this whole thing was pretty irritating to listen to. I’m a person who believes KSI vs. Jake Paul is a fight that definitely leans towards Mr. Paul, however, there are ways for KSI to win. I don’t think Wade likes the idea of KSI winning at all.
@Z4NKA1
@Z4NKA1 Жыл бұрын
It’s a debate. He doesn’t have to pledge his loyalty to anyone. For some reason a lot of ksi fans can’t fathom the idea of not worshipping ksi
@silversxm2609
@silversxm2609 Жыл бұрын
The wild charactaristic can still be in the Jake fight WITH added technical skill! Why doesn't KSI want to work on both? Imagine the destructiveness if he at least had good feet and knew had to throw a perfect jab (which are the only two things aside from cardio that he needs to perfect to beat Jake and maybe Tommy).
@SoySaucing
@SoySaucing Жыл бұрын
Somethin tells me jj is gonna look completely different against tommy, his recent performances were based on him knowing his opponents didnt deserve to be in there with him, with a fury Or Jake hes gonna fight different
@aidanharris5356
@aidanharris5356 Жыл бұрын
Nothing but Ws here wade
@kieransdhvkdfgraagh
@kieransdhvkdfgraagh Жыл бұрын
So serious question how does wade put up with Faze Sensei during podcasts? He constantly interrupts wade and talks over him. His views are obviously valid and he gives good perspective to things, but it just seems really rude to me
@sarangshinde5490
@sarangshinde5490 Жыл бұрын
Jake will be clown if ksi beats Tommy and then he continue to calling him self best in influencer boxing 😂.
@Grim-Nuzzle
@Grim-Nuzzle Жыл бұрын
Jake will work on his mistakes so idk if those mistakes will still work for KSI
@matthewparsons5086
@matthewparsons5086 Жыл бұрын
wade your a living legend man
@lilgabriel0517
@lilgabriel0517 Жыл бұрын
I’m a little split at the moment. After Jakes performance to Diaz it seems his ability has stagnated. But at the same time I still think we’ve seen his cardio improve, just power and accuracy be good at later rounds, and Jake have the heart and determination to not give up and win. The best way to put it, we’ll find out who could win after October 14.
@justinmarc323
@justinmarc323 Жыл бұрын
His cardio was ass in the later rounds. That's why nate started landing more shots in the later rounds and jake was getting rocked
@alex-nv8vm
@alex-nv8vm Жыл бұрын
Bro use common sense
@kraky5835
@kraky5835 Жыл бұрын
@@justinmarc323nate becomes better as the fight goes on. Have u not seen any of his ufc fights?
@ojtiv
@ojtiv Жыл бұрын
@@justinmarc323 jake was not getting rocked, nates boxing abilty is terrible and he was pretty much just slapping jake the whole match.
@Frazier16
@Frazier16 Жыл бұрын
True but he beat a guy who wasnt good. Tommy was decent and jake gassed out
@Hamsha02
@Hamsha02 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion this fight is 50/50 There is a few things I saw in ksi’s fight against Fournier. Ksi’s jab is getting a lot better and he perrys and then jab he is very quick on his feet. I get why people think jake should win. I Just personally think it’s 50/50
@vesuvius2444
@vesuvius2444 Жыл бұрын
The Tommy Fury fight will show a clear picture of how KSI vs Jake Paul looks.
@evilkhamzat
@evilkhamzat Жыл бұрын
A non clickbate title well done 👏
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. Жыл бұрын
u got put in your place by wade in the last video now u wanna be nice lmao well done 👏🤣
@evilkhamzat
@evilkhamzat Жыл бұрын
@@WinterMan.put in my place lol that wasn’t even on this channel lade was coping and lashed out emotionally, you have 1K comments on this channel alone but I’m obsessed because I have 60 on the breakdown? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Stop being terminally online
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. Жыл бұрын
@@evilkhamzat Lol 1) thats bcoz i been subd here for ages 2) i didn't leave 1k comments in the main comment section, they r mostly replies or debates i had with LSI meat riders 3) get your tongue out of mammy taylor's azz 🤣
@leytonwalker1190
@leytonwalker1190 Жыл бұрын
@@evilkhamzatliterally😂bros worlds revolves around influencer boxing
@evilkhamzat
@evilkhamzat Жыл бұрын
@@leytonwalker1190notice he didn’t respond either 😂
@beastmode_bumblebee
@beastmode_bumblebee Жыл бұрын
Jj saying that Jake's iq got worse, his output was low, and fought at a slow pace makes him sound like he knows absolutely nothing about boxing
@patrickwatts8143
@patrickwatts8143 Жыл бұрын
Wade wants to have a debate with Keemstar? Haven't they done that about 5 times in twitter spaces lol
@liayo
@liayo Жыл бұрын
What did they debate about that
@patrickwatts8143
@patrickwatts8143 Жыл бұрын
@@liayo Debate was the wrong word. Wade debates and Keem argues and tries to make Wade look bad in other ways but still. They haven't really debated because debating requires both people to listen as well as talk and Keem is only good at one of those things
@RickyPetersen
@RickyPetersen Жыл бұрын
Will and heart only gets you so far
@tannermonette8098
@tannermonette8098 Жыл бұрын
Jake still has power but the better the opposition was the less the power was as crazy as it used to look. Ksi is going to deal with the same problem. Jake still has power but knows how to distribute it and connect it with Timing, ksi isn’t there yet with timing and he isn’t close, he’s like a full back hitting the a gap on the line of scrimmage @wade
@tannermonette8098
@tannermonette8098 Жыл бұрын
Talking about the conversation around 50:00
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
I think KSI was correct that Jakes shot selection was poor and ring IQ was slow, it took him a few rounds to adjust, however I don't think Jake has got worse and KSI is wrong on the volume close to 500 punches thrown in 10 rounds at cruiserweight that is around average for a boxer at that weight, which is one criticsm of Jake before hand was low output, it wasn't low this time.
@PMraz
@PMraz Жыл бұрын
Or just use an elbow like KSI. 😂
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
@@PMraz do you have anything of substance to add
@itswyattlul
@itswyattlul Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that
@KillyJoe
@KillyJoe Жыл бұрын
Is anyone saying how Jake kept moving for the entire ten rounds I was impressed
@keithromero7181
@keithromero7181 Жыл бұрын
He was getting backed up the whole fight wym
@hugosteenhuisen7291
@hugosteenhuisen7291 Жыл бұрын
@@keithromero7181the fact he was constantly moving and still kept his stamina is impressive
@keithromero7181
@keithromero7181 Жыл бұрын
@@hugosteenhuisen7291 he looked gassed by the 2-4 round he was going on heart he was gassed, Nate was giving him breaks, ksi will not stop coming forward with power, idk how jake is gonna deal with it
@marselsavic3679
@marselsavic3679 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@keithromero7181Jake wasn’t gassed stop that false narrative.. plus when did ksi go more than 6 rounds? Never and Jake just did 10. Ksi will also miss a lot of his haymakers and eventually that will tire him out especially if he gets caught
@xavierkwasi5716
@xavierkwasi5716 Жыл бұрын
Hot take. Jj has the same exact performance against Diaz and gets meat rided. But cuz it’s Jake he did shit.
@EA-hz9mg
@EA-hz9mg Жыл бұрын
Probably true at this stage
@blinkspacestudio8892
@blinkspacestudio8892 Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell now Jake wins all day. He has massive more experience and has had tough as hell fights. He has also been laser focused on boxing and nothing else.
@seb2387
@seb2387 Жыл бұрын
Nate went up 15 pounds as a 39 year old. He wass playing the whole match and there was still big holes in jakes game. No Jake paul isnt great, he would lose to tommy again and Ksi now
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