Kubo Reveals the TRUTH Behind Gerard’s 'THE MIRACLE' - AND How to DESTROY Him! | Bleach TYBW

[@MrTommo2304]

What do you think of Kubo's revelation about Gerard's weakness? Should the anime try and adapt this somehow? And how does Gerard stack up to his closest competitors, like Lille Barro, with this news out in the open? Let me know your thoughts!

[@CaptainKotetsu]

I’m hoping this is a hint that the fight will be fixed in some way.

[@Dragonpuncher123]

I'm pretty sure this means that the anime will let the Gotei 13 actually kill Gerald or at least hint that it would have been possible. I'm sure Kubo have gotten this question many times before. The reason he decided to answer it now is probably because he is actually working on/thinking about that part of story again and made the decision that destroying the cross would have destroyed Gerald. Stuff like this just gets me more excited for the adaptation. It's clear they are working hard to fix the things that were never explained.

[@aleksamilosevic8792]

Gerard is the strongest elite guard

[@vladgaming2731]

Nah. Gerard is still stronger than LB, cross doesn't change anything. Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't every quincy have cross (you can see one in As Nodt eye, chapter 568)?

[@joelschittenhelm5571]

Im pretty sure that if it gets changed to the captians defeating Gerad, it will only be a minor change leading to the three captains fighting him will defeat him all together. But if we dream, we can always hope for someone who doesnt has as much attention as Kenpachi, Byakuya and Toshiro. And if we think again, these captains werent really alone. I think giving the final blow to one person who didnt do anything for weakening him wouldnt feel right. On the other hand Grimjow really didnt do anything but deal the final blow aswell and it didnt feel cheap. So what am I acctaully thinking of? Well there is a convinient strong and interesting group that somehow always gets the punchingback position. What if the Vizard would destroy Gerads Cross all together. My first thought would have been giving someone like Love a Bankai that comes in deus ex machina. Then i thought why not include all the not gotei Vizard. But my final thought is acctually including all Vizard with their Masks. We got Hitsugaya back and Rose's and Kensei's comeback was teased. Together they also should be strong enough or even it would prove to the fanbase that they are indeed not weak. So what are the pros here 1. Vizard screentime 2. Vizard acctaully succeeding in battle 3. Vizard Mask are used (not using full power against such an enemy was always weird) 4. Vizard being as strong as teased before fake Karakuratown Arc 5. Vizard-teameffort lets it look hard but also shows of their bond 6. Vizard maybe need to show new Bankai or shikai powers and those are always fun 7. Vizard showing of might take some of the weak feeling of the Gotei 13 at the end of the series. As you claimed often yourself the Vizard are weirdly weak for what toexpect from them, they dont use all their power, get no screentime and if they get some they are getting wreckend. This showcase would help them massivly. So after finishing my comment I acctually feel that giving this to the Vizard would be exactly the right thing to do, even tho I thin realistic enough to realise that its not more than a dream

[@CaptainKotetsu]

When the devs drop cheat codes for a broken boss almost a decade after the game was released.

[@Rizingfz08]

This doesn't make sense, Kubo only said the obvious, and it was very clear in the manga in that part where Gerard was cut.

[@CaptainKotetsu]

@@Rizingfz08 it’s called a joke. You know, because Kubo gave new info about the weakness of a seemingly unkillable enemy many years after the original work was released.

[@distantcryy]

​@@CaptainKotetsu Lmao I hope they make this a raid boss on bbs

[@alphawolf7417]

​@Captain Kotetsu still wish we got an actual Bleach console game. Can you imagine fighting some of the giant bosses in the cities like a Menos, Ayon, or Gerard?

[@CaptainKotetsu]

@@alphawolf7417 That would be cool. I’d love an open world Bleach game where you can pick any character and explore all three worlds. Basically RDR2 but with soul reapers and more freedom.

[@west429]

Since Kubo is outright saying this, I strongly believe this fight will be revised

[@gammafrost]

I would love to see it. I want to see byakuya and the vizards do more

[@yannischupin7787]

It would also make total sense since he seemingly already added Shinji's bankai, I am all for it

[@Javetts]

Yeah, same as how we got OG Gotei 13 right after the art was done.

[@atpr3241]

Literally all the anime has to do is stop the fight when Byakuya/Toshiro/Kenpachi do their teamwork attack in ch 671. Idk what Kubo was on letting Gerard revive again

[@gammafrost]

@@yannischupin7787 shinji’s battle wouldn’t be helpful in the battle against Gerard because there are so many allies fighting one enemy. If Shinji were facing Gerard and another enemy by himself, that’s when it’s useful

[@MrGksarathy]

The fact that Kubo dropped this answer before Cour 3 is very encouraging. That, and I like that this answer links the Miracle more to the Superstar. Additionally, I hope this means we get some Gerard backstory, and some Hōgyoku answers as well. Additionally, I prefer the idea that Gerard was some sort of homunculus/golem with no human self who was sort of a Golem of Prague figure for the Quincy in hiding, both in the Human World and in the Wandenreich.

[@LoganWH8]

I always somewhat speculated that S-the Superstar was Ywhach’s attempt at replicating the Miracle. I also suspect W-the Wind might be an attempt at replicating Pernida’s compulsory.

[@millasboo]

This would also tie back to the Jewish aspect of the Quincy story as Golems where in Jewish faith to be a being born from the pain and suffering of the Jews and was seen as a “miracle savior “ to protect them from suffering and the Nazi’s oppression. This would also strengthen the theory i have that this entire story is an allegory for WW1&2

[@MrGksarathy]

@@millasboo Yeah, that's my exact feeling, but I feel more that the experience of the Quincy mirror more in general that of the Jewish diaspora after the destruction of the Second Temple.

[@LoganWH8]

You know, it’s a shame Komamura only lasted long enough to take down Bambietta. I think him showing up in human form and sacrificing himself in a clash of titans against Gerard in order to give the others the chance to destroy the cross would’ve been really cool.

[@MrGksarathy]

Actually pretty cool, but Komamura's abrupt transformation into a wolf after defeating Bambietta honestly hammered home the message that sacrificing everything for revenge is a senseless act and causes more pain than gain.

[@takeshiro0513]

He chose to assist shinji instead of straightaway approaching the boss

[@GnoelRak99]

​@@takeshiro0513 He blocked Tosen's attack and took down Bambietta for Shinji

[@dantecrottogini529]

@@MrGksarathy I doubt that was Kubo's original intention. It always seemed to me that he had more plans for Komamura and just had to cut them because of time

[@MrGksarathy]

@@dantecrottogini529 Nonsense. It is a very intentional callback to Komamura warning Tosen about the same thing, and even his last words before fully transforming suggest as much.

[@nickyb3800]

I think the cross is the Soul King's actual heart. That'd explain why the Quincies had the cross as their symbol, weapons, etc.

[@abulgiza2462]

I like that idea. I believe we're never told why the quincy used a five-pointed cross as their insignia. Like, at least what's the significance of it? Turns out it's the shape of the soul king's heart.

[@thestrel555]

I seem to agree with this. Perhaps the cross is meant to symbolize the "heart" of the King himself?

[@wdadwdwdwadw8604]

if that is true then no Shinigami bellow the likes of Transcendent/SK level can do anything.

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

Yhwch always looked down on his father . I wonder why he will use his father's heart as a symbol.🤔

[@moeketsigeorge1932]

@@abulgiza2462 Unlikely! Juha hated his father why would he use his heart as a symbol. A symbol that the Royal don't even have.

[@thekwjiboo]

If Lille knows about this Quincy cross weakness, couldn't he just x-axis it and one shot Gerard?

[@ThePaleMorning]

That’s why he’s the leader

[@abbamalami9171]

The cross is the actual heart of the soul king, it most likely gained sentience and created the gerard persona. Also i read somewhere that isshin and ryuken were supposed to fight gerard, it would make sense for them to finish him off

[@crammothy]

Speaking of Lille, I wonder if Ichibe’s ink could affect him in his holy form and if so, he’d be killable again by normal means

[@sntreulfravn2321]

Yeah that's a good question, cuz I'm pretty sure the ink actually has to get on the subject to be able to work, but Lille is intangible so I don't know if the ink would get on him or just go through him

[@niheliniheli4514]

@@sntreulfravn2321 I trink it would be able to, bc the Ink if I remember right is not really Ink but „black“ or darkness as a concept and Shunsui was able to use Kage-oni with a shadow above Lilles beak. Meaning if a shadow could be on Lille while in his holy Form, darkness/black should be able to „hit“ him, I guess.

[@QrowxClover]

@@niheliniheli4514 He's pure light. That wouldn't happen. It'd be a stalemate. Ichibei wouldn't be able to hit Lille because you can't cast a shadow across a light source, and Lille wouldn't be able to hit Ichibei. Although, Ichibei could probably seal Lille if he thought it was necessary. He probably would just toy with him until he gave up though, since Lille isn't a threat to the Soul King.

[@uraharakisuke1329]

​@@QrowxClover nanao emerged out of a shadow on Lille's beak tho

[@QrowxClover]

@@uraharakisuke1329 Oh wait you're right! I actually did forget about that. In that case Ichibei beats Lille. Sorry, I was thinking his light was actually accurate light.

[@justinedwards5047]

That brings up a really interesting thought, what if the Quincy cross predates the existence of the Quincy organization. What if it was chosen by Yhwach because it was associated with the soul king, as he saw himself as the inheritor of his father's power.

[@stevenmueller5414]

Yay another vid on my favorite character of the enemy side!

[@hoofhearted4]

Glad it was clarified. I absolutely hated how OP the final Quincy were. Lille being a "God" and therefore only able to be killed by a weapon designed to kill "Gods" (that the enemy facing him just so happened to have) was probably the worst of them all.

[@jonu5505]

Agreed, mate. That was rough. Tite Kubo has done this on a few more occasions and it didn't make much sense, but the Lille Barro conundrum was by far the most egregious.

[@WizelBalan]

@@jonu5505 No kidding his power made no sense, he has the X-Axis, ok and when he powers up he somehow changes to an angel, then a freaky angel, I am sorry wtf was that progression?

[@jonu5505]

@@WizelBalan The transformations were strange, yes -- but, me and the OC are speaking more along the lines where there are these convenient moments where all of a sudden a character has a ability that directly counters another. Like, all of a sudden Nanao has a God reflecting mirror. Like.. uh? Convenient much? Lmao.

[@JinisBored]

On the topic of that I really hope nanaos zanpakuto or whatever it was really gets some kind of more lore cause it seemed like a HUGGE asspull

[@Isiel42]

I think the anime won't change the ending of the battle, but maybe they'll at least notice the cross and try to attack it a few times, and it'll appear more often, only for Yhawach to do his thing at the end before they get the chance to succeed.

[@nhiayerlo3642]

I agree with you but I want them to realize he’s taking their power in so killing the soldiers would be an actual benefit and then right when all 3 are about to destroy the cross Bach takes his power

[@patrickzantomaster]

Or maybe they beat him and they are about to make the killing blow dead to rights and then the Auswählen kicks in

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@nhiayerlo3642 Hey I agree both of you make valid points. Although with the recent changes or add on and slippits new I wondor is kubo cooking something in the middle ground to add to your point.

[@Sergote12]

​@@nhiayerlo3642not really, all quincy gets absorbed by Yhawach. So killing all quincy before yhawach does no merit other than inciting quincy vs shinigami racism

[@Cocobean320]

@@nhiayerlo3642nah because since ywatch did bestow Gerard some level of power then when he dies he will return to ywatch anyway

[@andrewscoppetta4944]

Not gonna lie, I was actually reading the Klub Outside Q&A translations last night and when I got to that one, I thought ‘damn… Mr. Tommo was right. Again…’ lol. Good job Tommy Boy!!!

[@karimmmmm]

I think what Kubo might‘ve implied is that no one is really capable of destroying the cross (except maybe Yhwach) but IF someone destroyed it Gerard would’ve been defeated. Same thing with Aizen and the Hogyoku. No one can destroy the Hogyoku but IF someone destroyed it Aizen would’ve been defeated.

[@MrGksarathy]

Yeah, especially since the cross seems to be related to the Hōgyoku in some way. Man, this makes me wish Aizen could have gone up against this guy and compared the Miracle to his own Hōgyoku.

[@User5hdbh]

​@@MrGksarathy yeah only yhwach can destroy quincy cross but only ichigo can destroy yhwach

[@danielaghedo-jacob8979]

Doesn't Lille's bullets bypass all durability so I am preety sure he should be able to dextroy the cross.

[@MajesticFerret]

​@danielaghedo-jacob8979 just like Aizens jewel, I don't think physically destroying the cross would actually destroy it. Kubu never implied it can even be destroyed, he merely said if you CAN destroy it, it would kill Gerard. The cross itself is likely intangible, which is why it never appeared again. It was likely physically destroyed with Hits and Byakuyas Bankai but just like Aizens jewel, can't be destroyed by mere physical attacks.

[@BMW0510]

What Kubo said was clear, if they destroyed the cross Gerrard would have died permanently, that's it, there is no science behind it. I don't understand why fans like to complicate nonsense so much, the shinigami just didn't focus on that tiny cross, most likely they didn't even notice it.

[@Tsukigami99]

I think that de best outcome of this battle it would be the captains descovering Gerard's cross as a possible weakness but failing in destroying so, and then Yhwach finishing him off with de Auswählen, just to show how mighty Gerard's power really is.

[@muhammadhabib9433]

I don't know who did the first, but since One Punch Man animated first, I think this concept looks like Melzargard. (I said that because this Gerard trivia comes late.)

[@atan6193]

​@@muhammadhabib9433 yes but a super buff version of melzargard

[@Kova7z7]

@@muhammadhabib9433 Kubo made it first

[@muhammadhabib9433]

@@Kova7z7 yeah. I just referencing "who's the first animate it". I don't read OPM manga. And you know, Kubo being Kubo. He won't explain anything if we're not asking something. Considering Klub Outside is new fan site, so I'm not surprised. Or, there's one thing again. Any trivia or further explanation, some fans really bring out Novel (such as CFYOW) because it's canon. I know it's canon, but as a true fan myself, I'm not biased over these thing. I feel kinda lost, because it's explain Bleach verse has many plotholes.

[@andreamccaffrey9891]

No, the ENTIRE REASON why people don’t like this fight and how rushed it was, is because of the ending💀it’s an asspull

[@Pridam]

Honestly in terms of abilities, I think Lillie ultimately got more power than Gerard did. Lillie was the first Sternritter who received power fro Yhwach, and was not a portion of the Soul King. Meanwhile Gerard is the "heart" of the Soul King, and as Askin Nak LeVarr said about both Pernida and Gerard, Yhwach gave them their Shrift not as to give them power, but to acknowledge the powers that they already had In a fight between Lillie and Gerard...it really isn't easy to think of who would win since they both have immensely broken powers, but one thing is for sure, they've definitely earned their elite status I'll be honest, I'm still on the opinion that Gerard should remain being undefeated by his Shinigami opponents. HOWEVER, I think it would be nice if Byakuya, Toshiro, and Zaraki realize what Gerard's weakness was and tried attacking the cross, only for Yhwach's Auswahlen to kill Gerard for them

[@novamaster9645]

There’s a manga series called Yu Yu Hakusho which started the supernatural genre in Shonen Jump including Bleach and in Yu Yu Hakusho there’s a character called Elder Toguro who has the power to manipulate his body but can still die if his crucial organs are attacked but he can freely change the location of them to avoid this so maybe Gerald does the same thing with his cross always moving it to avoid its destruction

[@glc704]

Would be underwhelming if It was so much weaker

[@novamaster9645]

@@glc704 I’m not saying it would be weak I’m saying it would smarter to move your weak spot around rather then keep it in 1 solitary place for your enemy to find

[@glc704]

@@novamaster9645 but after this form he has no weak point. Not to mention that Kubo has said that he would be defeated only if someone could destroy It which might be as well as hard as It was for Lille's halo that needed the ise zampakuto

[@0eyes]

Gerard already got his entire head destroyed twice

[@pieoverlord]

Could be a compromise: the captains see the cross, surmise that's the weakness and wrangle Bankai Zaraki into targeting it at full power, slamming into it and sending it careening into the ground... only for the light to follow it and reform Gerard anyway - who cheerfully tells them that yes, they got it right, that would work, they're just not strong enough to actually do it. Then follow up with the Auswahlen providing the ironic miracle.

[@Sheikh_Speare]

I like this a lot.

[@jordanamador1845]

I would love that this fight could be revised in a way when Ishhin and Ryuken can participate and figure out how to destroy Gerard's cross as a final combination (because I think they were in the quincys territory during that time).

[@damianpiechotka6313]

Congratulations on your marriage! Wish you only the best!

[@WorlBoss]

Your attention to detail is God Tier

[@Rizingfz08]

In the manga it is clear in this part that this cross that makes him immortal and is most likely indestructible, like his main core as the heart of SK, so it makes sense that it is not possible to destroy.

[@glc704]

Yeah maybe his first form. After that he got obliterated to nothing and still came back

[@corruptangel6793]

Reminds me of Gremmy's brain

[@corruptangel6793]

@@glc704 he wasn't obliterated to nothing. He was frozen and shattered to pieces. If one of those pieces contained the cross and the cross wasn't frozen to its core, then that would explain why he reformed

[@glc704]

@@corruptangel6793 he was litterally turned to dust... takes a lot of mental gymnastic to say he had a Quincy cross the size of his head that magically just isn't there. Kubo has said that if that cross was destroyed he would have lost, the same doesn't have to go for his Next forms

[@corruptangel6793]

@@glc704 he wasn't turned to dust. He is partually frozen, and then, after Byakuya blows up the head and he loses his strength to resist the freezing power, the now fully frozen body collapses into giant pieces. Just because we don't see it like when he got bysected and we got a full, unobstructed panel highlighting it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

[@Traumerei59]

With this new reveal Lille is definitely the strongest elite quincy now which make sense for their leader

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

Factual

[@leksobaramidze]

yea and when shunsui fought him 1on1 it's crazy:d

[@vladgaming2731]

lol no

[@pacmiller7564]

He literally isn't but go on

[@cybermoon6036]

​@@pacmiller7564he is bro is immortal and intangible and can one shot everything lille>>>>>gerald , paranida , askin , jugram. Ishida is unknown since his power is vague.

[@johnlucas2838]

It's weird that with the wording of how Kubo answered was that they couldn't destroy Gerard's core as if they didn't have the capability to do so.

[@sntreulfravn2321]

Well if we're going with the assumption that it's the soul king's heart it makes sense that they wouldn't have the strength to destroy it

[@Esotericspirits]

If Zaraki's bankai can't even damage it, then he is just a lame character

[@jordantinucci3509]

I think the problem is Kubo didn't really have that in mind at the time

[@AmvRandom]

​@@jordantinucci3509Kubo had it planned

[@jordantinucci3509]

@@AmvRandom idk this seems like something you could have had us see in place of yuha just killing him in the same an amount of pages

[@animanco6833]

Here's hoping part 3 fix this fight. The cross is definitely a weakness in some way. Gerald's actual suppose heart, his core. Just like how Gremmy's brain is the core of his power

[@courve]

Gremmy was dumb. Kenpachi’s coaching was the core of Gremmy’s power. That dusty brain was a weakness.

[@rishabh3642]

​@@courvegremmy wasnt dumb what makes u think that ????

[@bynosaurus4024]

@@courve gremmy was nowhere near dumb, he was just inexperienced. cfyow makes it clear that he was kept in a cage pretty much his entire life in the wandenreich out of fear of his power.

[@kanoreese1253]

Gremmy was neither dumb or inexperienced. That's misinformation that has been in the Bleach fandom for years with no evidence to support it. In fact Gremmy has plenty of fighting experience. This is proven in ch.574 pg.8, where Gremmy tells Zaraki"people like you are unable to understand my power until they lose". How would Gremmy know that Zaraki is like those people unless he'd already fought and defeated the people Zaraki is supposed to be like?🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Rizingfz08]

We don't know if is possible to demage the cross.

[@manuelacosta9463]

He was truly the most entertainingly hammy among the Quincy. But alas even he had to meet his end despite his power.

[@skyrogue1977]

Imagine if he just stepped on a tac or something and he just deflates and flies around like a popped balloon.

[@CreativityCurve]

I think some basic changes could have gone a long way towards making Gerard's power feel more reasonable and grounded. The quincies have this recurring concept of absorbing/manipulating reishi, so having Gerard be the ultimate form of that would have been really cool. Like, every time he regenerates, the heart could have been shown to destroy the environment around it and transforming the particles into Gerard's new body. I like it thematically as well, with how his power is almost like a human muscle, straining and damaging itself through exercise only to rebuild itself stronger with protein. And a heart is, of course, nothing if not a big muscle.

[@cattoduke6286]

It would be interesting to see how Aizen will interact with Soul King parts. As far as the manga is concerned, Yhwach could have absorbed Aizen along with the Hogyoku, since Hogyoku is essentially smaller Soul King fragments put together. I wonder if Mimihagi, Gerard and Pernida could do the same.

[@ImperfectNobody38492]

Another possible ending: even if Zaraki can't destroy the cross, perhaps he cuts Gerard in half again, and Hitsugaya (and/or Rukia/Tessai/Hachi?) accepts being pinned to the location keeping the cross frozen/in stasis until Ichigo/Ichibe/Oetsu are able to return to destroy it for good. Alternatively, Ichibe might even snatch it and imprison it as the new Soul King.

[@FamousGames111]

When I was reading this as it came out I always thought that the way they would beat him was that Kenpachi, Toshiro, and Byakuya (even any of the other survivors in the royal palace could have jumped in) would have to team up and perfectly match him so it would be an even match and there would be no need for a miracle to happen since he could reasonably win as much as they could ending the battle in an awesome final clash but that definitely didn’t happen

[@KingKP96]

I'm curious how people feel about Gerard's place in a powerscaling/ranking hierarchy now with this weakness reveal. Before I feel like most people considered him to be a top 10 character if not a top 5 seeing as it seemed that even three of the strongest captains and an army of back up couldn't put Gerard down for good. Knowing that there is a weakness lying at the root of everything certainly makes him feel a bit less all powerful, though I don't think it takes away from the impressive things he is/was capable of. It's just that whether someone could actually kill him or not isn't a matter of being more absurdly broken then him like Aizen or Yhwach anymore, and having it come down to if they can figure out how to destroy his core before letting him grow out of control with no way to deal with him.

[@vladgaming2731]

It doesn't change anything for me. If Zaraki, who is one of the physically strongest Bleach characters, and one of Bleach characters with greatest Reiatsu who can cut through everything was not enough to kill Gerard/destroy cross, and we add prime Byakuya, and adult Toshiro, it still shows how strong Gerard really is.

[@dylanfitzpatrick9423]

I liked it better when the elite sterns were just unkillable gods, unbeatable by conventional means. That’s why I liked that no shinigami was able to fight 1v1 against them, they all needed help. Eventually this culminated in fighting Yhwach who is ultra Uber unkillable.

[@сахасахович-п2и]

Yeah it was a nice change of tone where previously shinigami had no problem to deal with their enemies 1v1

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@сахасахович-п2и Maybe there's a middle grown where both could happen though.

[@doncinati7644]

Especially with how they completely embarrassed the espada lol I just like how the Quincy were absolutely terrifying

[@ezon725]

It makes me wonder, if an elite sternritter who had part of soul king is already invincible, imagine how would the prime soul king do.

[@ปลาทองอยู่ในน้ํา]

Talking about Lille, could he really died from Yhwach's Auswalen or Kira? Even him being separated, his could have all of his abilities but he couldn't use it more efficient like when he fought Shunsui

[@corruptangel6793]

Lille was split into countless pieces and lost his intangibility when his halo was shattered. It's very likely he was weakened to the point of each piece being a high level seated officer and would need to recombine all those pieces to reform. If so, then Kira and the others (Komamura and Iba for instance) should have been able to cut them down one by one and finish him off.

[@JadeIsBunny]

kubo makes it sound like it doesn't matter because nobody knows how tough that cross is either

[@TbxB95]

So I wasn't the only one which theorized of that Quincy cross inside his body as his core and weak point. I really hope the anime may confirm this and change the end of the fight in this direction. In the end, the problem is that all those that fought Gerard were physically warriors and they attacked without a real plan. I hope also that the fullbringers will be included here if so, Tsukishima may learn of his weakness, Giriko help to support the trio in order to tear apart Gerard again, and have Ginjo deal the final blow would just be crazy.

[@jorgetamarizmuro4154]

Somehow when i read the manga i noticed that and always thought that was some kind of weakness. Nailed it

[@apotheosis1660]

Jugram is still the strongest Sternritter by far. As he is literally connected to Yhwach's scales, and he is the literal Substitute of the Emperor. Thus he not only has the future reading of the Almighty, but all the Shrifts that the Sternritter's power has given back from their death.

[@Brainrotworlddd]

U should go back and check it again, jugram only has future sight, he can't use the full almighty, that's also why he says he's stronger when he has the balance

[@vladgaming2731]

What are you talking? He can only use Almighty to see things, and nothing more. He said it himself that only Yhwach can use Almighty other abilities. Do not mix up Yhwach powers with his powers.

[@apotheosis1660]

@@Brainrotworlddd I literally said he has "the future reading of the Almighty", learn to read

[@Brainrotworlddd]

@Apotheosis i know that 🤦🏽, how about u read my comment again nice and slowly, thats the ONLY thing he can do with the almighty, he can't change the future or use any other schrifts whilst using the almighty

[@apotheosis1660]

@@Brainrotworlddd Yes he can, CFYOW literally proves that. AND Jugram himself literally saying he and Yhwach are on both sides of the same scale, so they are related in power.

[@deuntaethomas7437]

Kubo said if it were possible to destroy the Quincy cross and that part flew past your head

[@MarsCorporations]

Another question regarding Gerard is: How did Nimaiya oneshot him? Did he know about the cross? Did he split it in half on purpose? My understanding is, that Gerard already had his powers at that point in time, so he should automatically revive.

[@ReturnoftheLightning]

The elite that fought the Royal Guard were much weaker. The Gerard that Zaraki fought was powered up by Yhwach’s Auswahlen and changing the reimyaku (reishi atmosphere) into one that favoured quincies. Considering in the 13th Blade databook Zaraki calls Nimaya a coward, and challeges him into taking back the zanpakutou he stole, I doubt he could do anything to this version of Gerard.

[@jimmyv5494]

He probably cut the core by accident lol Gerard may have been weaker but he wasn’t expecting some magic zanpakto that just cuts anything

[@undary0u]

​@@ReturnoftheLightning he can through anything so yes he would've been able to cut through a stronger version of Gerald tho I don't think he'd be able to cut the cross or maybe he could we don't know the limits of his zanpakuto

[@gjtrue]

Amazing how Tite Kubo can create so many extremely overpowered, unique, BROKEN characters and powers.

[@vanguardduelist]

I hope this means we shall see an updated and revised version of this fight where they actually succeed and kill him. Then when the Auswählen is activated, it could look like he’s being revived, but in truth he’s be being absorbed by Yuwach.

[@ShaunMilesTV]

Shoutout my MrTommo2304 for giving my guy MShadows from Narutoverse credit. 2 goats!

[@mumbosauce4]

Is it too out there to say that, the Quincy cross, may actually be what the Soul King’s heart actually looks like? Not sure if they Quincy cross is based on something else, but if Gerard is literally the heart, maybe the Soul King’s “heart” is just that Quincy cross

[@josecintron4458]

Damn the subreddit just had to be unavailable this week, love discussing this stuff there :/

[@bosyapanmeliodas2237]

I don't want to Gerard has weaknesses I really liked his "undefeatable, unkillable warrior of god" state but

[@pacmiller7564]

Me either I'm ngl😂

[@MajesticFerret]

You're assuming the cross is something tangible that can be destroyed. If Kenpachi cannot destroy it, it is likely it cannot be physically destroyed. It was made pretty clear that Ienpachi can cut through ANYTHING (he even cut his way put of a pocket dimension). I simply have a hard time believing the heart of the soul king is inferior to the Hgouku and if that can merge with its target and cease to be tangible, so too is Gerards heart most likely. I don't think it's that's Kenpachi and the Captains can't destroy the heart, it's that even if they did it just like the jewel and is just a shell to embody the power.

[@ReturnoftheLightning]

I mean, isn’t his schrift just skavlerei? The cross has to be his real “body” 🤷🏻‍♀️ Also lol, 7 years and Kubo still put some more Zaraki slander.

[@LipeToThePast]

The flashback/forward section was a huge missed opportunity to "turn back the pendulum". That being said, amazing content as always!

[@HOLDENPOPE]

Considering the power of the X-Axis is just spatially erasing whatever Lille's target is, I'd say he could destroy the cross, especially with rapidfire attacks like he did with Vollstandig. Indeed, I'd like to give my theory on what the X-Axis actually is: I think it's Spatial Manipulation. Think about it, Lille doesn't just have the ability to instantly put holes in whatever his target is as well as anything between him and it, he can also phase through attacks, teleport, hold Shunsui in place with some sort of telekinesis, and fly, presumably without creating any Reishi footholds since he...doesn't have feet. He could possibly hold Gerard in place and pepper him with holes until the Cross resembles Swiss Cheese, and win like that, adding onto that the fact that Lille, like Gerard, is immortal, but unlike Gerard doesn't seem to have a weakness to his immortality that could negate it.

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

Facts

[@sntreulfravn2321]

Yeah he basically has a godly form of Kamui from Naruto lmao

[@Kuroihito402]

I mean, you can say this, but the miracle isn't just reviving their user as a desire to stay alive, but it grants the impossible, pretty sure he did so once while trying to find other shinigamis

[@Kuroihito402]

And yeah, it is more like spatial manipulation, only fact it isn't due to him really just being able to replicate it in the form of how his sniper would work

[@Manusia.satu1]

If Zaraki cannot cut it, how you think Lille has enough hax to cut it? Remember. Zaraki can cut space

[@viskj]

7:52 Gerard's head, neck, and upper chest were not frozen when Byakuya destroyed them. Byakuya's Senkei destroyed not only his head but his neck and upper chest region as well according to the panel.

[@frobinlu885]

I’m so glad this was finally answered!! This fight in particular pissed me off the most because it was extremely unsatisfying, but now this fight seems like it’s getting fixed so now I’m stoked for it in cour 3!! 🥳🎉🙌🏽

[@Esotericspirits]

They hyped up Zaraki's bankai for like 15 years only to be useless. I hope anime team does more justice.

[@frobinlu885]

@@Esotericspirits I agree, I hope Zaraki’s bankai gets fleshed out more for this fight.

[@AmvRandom]

it was one of the best fights, they mustn't change it

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@AmvRandom Maybe 🤔 tweaks

[@LeoLikesLamb]

Your videos butter My biscuits thank you

[@pacmiller7564]

😂

[@neocapricornman614]

Well, lille vs gerard this kinda settles who would have come out on top there. Intangiblity aside lille would probably sniper Gerard with little difficulty. Probably. X axis can supposedly pierce anything so he would just shoot the cross thingy and call it a day. 🤷‍♂️

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

💯

[@sntreulfravn2321]

Yeah most definitely, because in the strictest sense the X-axis doesn't "pierce" things it specially removes anything in it's sights from existence so regardless of the durability of the cross it would destroy it

[@prxnceanime6335]

And it makes sense why he was the leader too

[@pacmiller7564]

Not really Lille and Gerard stalemate each other, Kenpachi literally cut him in half and the way Kubo drew the cross, it was in the middle.

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

@@prxnceanime6335 exactly

[@athirstyguy]

An interesting question is Ichibei vs Lille Barro and Gerard. Ichibei could use his shikai to strip away Lille's intangibility and then kill him...assuming the ink could touch Lille post-holy form. Pre-holy form he's done. Gerard however technically could continuously perform the miracle even upon being hit by the back ink and nullify it yet grow even stronger...maybe

[@lealsantana1386]

I think the way Gerard was killed was perfect because it shows how powerful the miracle is and needed devine intervention aka Yhwach’s holy light to kill him off and absorb his power

[@Force-Multiplier]

I would love the battle expanded Byakuya only got off screen fights and other than surviving the Gerard fight without losing Toshiro only lost fights so they could definitely use the extra time in the TYBW anime

[@rayvonvelez3129]

Bankai kenpachi was too much of a bloodlusted brute so he couldn't take advantage of Gerard weak spot.

[@rishabh3642]

Kenpachi didnt know the difference between ally and comrade in bankai ...he completely lost his sense of comprehension

[@SwfanredLotr]

​@@rishabh3642 And the amount of spiritual pressure it released almost broked his body (it still broked his arm).

[@Rizingfz08]

Would be pointless anyway, Byakuya explode Gerard Head and he come back.

[@atan6193]

​@@Rizingfz08 maybe he destroy his head and stop Maybe after he destroy his head the cross appears

[@sabener6255]

​@@atan6193hitsugaya cancelled gerards ability and still came back because miracle makes him unbound zo elements and wordly things

[@mjm3091]

I feel like Kubo dropping it now is definitely interesting, considering we probably won't see anything of Gerard until Cour 3. Which I guess could be just that they started the work on C3, leaving only post production details for C2 (as it is supposed to premiere not that long from now). But at the same time it would be nice to see some bigger implications being made around Komamura, as both of the characters have a lot of similarities - at least when it comes to their power. Specifically one sacrificing his own heart to create a miraculous undead bankai spirit, and other being said to be Soul King's heart and a miraculous undead titan.

[@messiahdavid8175]

"It seemed like the only way to bring down Gerard was to have God himself intervene".😂😂😂 This is exactly how I felt when I first read through TYBW

[@KilllaKazzy]

I think a cool aspect would be to introduce Tsukishima during that fight. For one, we have had very little of Fullbringers in that arc but secondly - If he can alter memories of everyone and everything, then perhaps he would be able to alter the cross or Gerard himself, thus helping in killing him.

[@jacoblordbanemastersithdes3072]

So let’s say after kenpachi slices Gerard in half I think hitsuguya could have frozen his cross and byakua uses senbonzakura to shred it.

[@Marukanitel]

That seems *too* fast 😅

[@RUS12388991]

If even Kenpachi isn't able to destroy it, then Byakuya has 0 chance of doing it.

[@Malthizar]

I was on the fence before but this pretty much is definitive evidence that Kubo is a genius that knows every part of this series in painstaking detail. Between reveals like this and Yachiru being Zaraki's zanpakuto being foreshadowed from his very first fight, it's clear there are things Kubo knows and has foreshadowed that readers still haven't picked up on

[@davewindburn]

You are forgetting that Lille pierces through ANYTHING. There is absolutely no protection against his attacks, except for Nanao’s zanpakuto. Lille can easily kill Gerard with two large shots: the first one kills him and the second one annihilates his quincy cross.

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

💯

[@vladgaming2731]

And you are forgetting that Zaraki sword cuts through EVERYTHING, cut Gerard in half at middle where the cross is shown and nothing change. Ofc they can change more things in anime but now even with new info Gerard is stronger than Lille.

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

@Vlad Gaming Not really. Kenpachi was seen struggling to cut through gremmy's skin once gremmy got use to it. Kenpachi also had trouble cutting through gerard's shied and his sword. If Kenpachi really could cut through anything then we would have seen it. Oetsu's sword is an example of actually being able to cut through anything

[@vladgaming2731]

@@ByakuyaLaughs Dude there literally panel in manga that show how Zaraki cut Gerard in half and you are saying me he can't do it? He cut space, meteor, there are numerous evidence in manga and novels that support that Zaraki can cut everything, if he get serious, not holding back.

[@ByakuyaLaughs]

@Vlad Gaming He can't cut through everything though which you are ignoring. He doesn't cut through gerard's sword or shield and even gremmy tanks kenpachi's strikes once gremmy gets use to it. It's not rocket science. You can't say he can cut through everything and then it's shown he's having trouble cutting through things 💀

[@GM-dg6mj]

finally, the hierarchy and argument of aizen vs gerard has change 😎

[@DURIEL1]

*HOPEFULLY they change his dead in the anime instead of just getting killed off Yhwach.*

[@masterquake7]

I wish I had found your channel before now. Great content.

[@JakeMatthews-OnLo]

The cross being a focal point like James and Mask Coexistence is honestly a great detail that probably doesn’t have to main focus of the fight. I personally loved Gerard’s defeat being a miracle itself as this unlikable being godly proportions being defeated by his own God, felt life Devine retribution and a miracle for the soul reapers themselves.

[@D-Havoc]

Also, Lillie's intangibiliy and power are tied to his Quincy Cross is another point of consistency with Gerard and Mask de Masculine.

[@drunknpoet]

I took Kubo's answer as : Nobody can do it, but yeah, that would do it. Again, we have zero examples of anyone being able to break the cross. all that we know is that it never broke, and that there is at least one zanpakuto that DOES kill Lille Barro. Feats over statements, especially ones that suggest nobody had what it took to take out the Miracle, and at least one did have what it took to take out the X Axis. M > X

[@bqw2094]

Ok this modt likely means that the anime version of the grrald fight will have a less shitty conclusion , hopefully changes are made for yhwach

[@rishabh3642]

They just have to change the conclusion ...i think toshiro or byakuya wouldbe able to break the cross And for yhwach fight they just have to flesh it out more

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@rishabh3642 Fair point . And 📞 me a moron but personally wish it was all 5 war potentials vs S.K. Ychwach all out rumble.

[@irtendor5885]

I can see Lille Barro being able to use X-axis to pierce through the cross. But that is of course, assuming he knows the position of the cross, and it doesn't move from one place to another inside him.

[@poochyenajones1362]

Maybe the anime will add this new addition to this upcoming fight, cuz it's a huge revelation. It wouldn't really change the fight in itself, Kubo just didn't have enough time to workshop it into the manga the way he might have intended originally. The anime does in a sence work as director's cut.

[@Phantom_of_Black]

I think that, assuming the fight gets revised it will go something like this. After Toshiro and Byakuya get their turn blasting Gerard to pieces and he starts resurrecting again, those two recall the cross that Zaraki revealed using his Bankai as they saw it appear now again. This leads the Gotei to figure out that the cross is what keeps resurrecting Gerard all the time. The issue now is that Gerard is even more durable so it just got much harder to expose the weakness again so they have to formulate a plan of attack to make sure they get it this time and Gerard doesn't get yet another power boost. I would personally have the Visoreds come into play here with them all shooting their Ceros together at Gerard being what kills him again and allows for the cross to finally be destroyed.

[@nestorrocha7142]

I wonder: If Rukia had used her Bankai on Gerard, or a weak enough version of him, could she have flash froze him fast enough to take the core with him?

[@Mrjakokos]

I really hope Kubo still means that the cross is unbreakable by any normal attacks, this really takes away from Gerard's uniqueness

[@WingedValkyrie]

His answer outright implies that it isn't possible to destroy the cross. He says that the cross is the key to defeating Gerard but questions if it can even be destroyed in the first place. So classic Kubo troll answer that everyone is taking hyperseriously.

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

​@@WingedValkyrieNow that I think about it does sound dumb since hogyoku is already undesirable and those are just the soul kings nails

[@Vihgid]

Looks like when kenpachi sliced him in half the cross is spinning so he definitely struck it but like kubo said he just wasn’t strong enough to break it

[@bondsmatthew]

I do hope we get Isshin joining this fight going bankai, fighting alongside Toshiro. Fire and Ice together? Fanfic writes itself lmao

[@gammafrost]

I was thinking the same thing!! You can’t just have isshin show up in shinigami robes during the final battle without meeting toshiro after so long and unleashing his Bankai

[@MrGksarathy]

@@gammafrost At the same time, he and Ryuuken would almost certainly be gunning straight for Ywach.

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@MrGksarathy Off topic would love for Isshin \ Ryuuken to join the war and have a tag 🍛 team / individual battles . And Ryuuken could show up when Uryu about to get by then have the ultimate Quincy showsdown Ryuuken Vs Jugram a battles of 💡 Ideals and Ideology resulting in Ryuuken revealing a Holyform -GrandSanRform - vs Volt-Standings - Scrift

[@isaacbrown4506]

Looking forward to seeing adult Toshiro and Kenny's Bankai, Ichigo's new dual swords, and I hope they do something different with his bankai since they'll hopefully have more time than they did with the manga

[@raymiku9910]

My theory, and I suppose Kubo's answer supports it somewhat is that the cross is hard to destroy, not only because it's resistant (which would lead to only Kenpachi "there's nothing my blade can't cut" Zaraki being able to), but also because it's tiny in comparison to Gerard's body. It'd be like finding a needle in a haystack. I'd imagine that's where the difficulty comes from, and this would also explain why the cross wasn't drawn on every single panel. It is tiny.

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

The Hogyoku is such an interesting comparison To create something stronger than the real thing is really something

[@yazoonodorei8690]

It would have been cool if Zaraki (although it's questionable whether he had any conscious thought during his Bankai) didn't want to kill such a good opponent (like Byakuya and Toshiro said - they're a match made in heaven), so he didn't break the cross on purpose. He had said, after all, that there was nothing his blade could not cut.

[@Prinxce3_]

Nah he just got wrecked and wasn't on Gerard's level

[@huntinghunterz]

14:50 I’m assuming if Lille knew exactly where Gerard’s cross was he could shoot right through it

[@yest5814]

But the soul king didn’t have the cross tho

[@admiraljay6481]

I can see lille being able to destroy the cross because of will x axis ability of r whatever being able to straight of just erase anything between two points I believe it was something like that

[@jrgenvellesen7800]

I like the idea that Isshin might be the one to finish off Gerard in the anime. If any other Captain then Kenpachi, Toshiro and Byakuya were going to be able to put down the Quincy that possess the power of the Soul King's heart, it would make sense that it would be a descendent of one of the 5 Noble clans who is so strong even Aizen acknowledged him. Plus, it would allow us to see Isshin use his Bankai, and if even that is not enough to take down Gerard, he might have to use the Final Getsuga Tenshou. I can see that being powerful enough to finally destroy a godly behemoth like Gerard.

[@сахасахович-п2и]

I doubt that he will use FGT since it would be a very drastic change to the story but bankai? Sign me up

[@сахасахович-п2и]

Also let Ryuken help Uryu with Haschwalth

[@Prinxce3_]

Why would that bum take away from the captain's W? They should just change it where the captains actually win. And Byakuya is of the 5 great noble families too

[@HeManUltimated]

Great Video! I liked the transition to the flashback, although I think you can make them a bit shorter.

[@uraharakisuke1329]

As always I am not getting my expectations up to high about the Gerard fight being changed, but it would be incredibly awesome.

[@tengoodquestions]

Coming back for this comment

[@misterOrca4]

How I would it is that the cross is literally Gerlad, just like how Gremmy's true for was the Incubate brian. Inorder to prpgect itself it spawns a Stonger and Faster body part as it gets threatened. Gerald believes he's his own person. But in actuality it's Cross/Heart that has a mind of it's own while Gerlad is just a tool/Armor. Which could explain Gerald's one dimensional personality of "I'm the Stongest... I'm the Mightiest". As for why the Captains couldn't destroy the cross/Gerald no matter what they threw at him. Because the cross hads a mind of it's own and Geralf is a Armor. When ever it senses Danger it would move itself to a safer place within it's artificial Body. Explaining how it was Able to survive Byakuya's Barrage, Kenpachi's Rips and Tears; as well as Toshiro's Instant Freeze. As For the Defeat when Ywach used Auswahlen. It was similar to pulling the Plug on The Heart. The Cross has already over worked it's self due to rhe body and because Yhwach stripped it of it's Quincy Powers/ immortality. The Cross couldn't keep up and slowly started to Decay or it started developing the Blood Clots like Ichigo and Uryu's mothers.

[@ARandomEliatrope]

I'd love if the cross didn't kill gerard, but cut his ties to the quincies entirely, which basically made him permanently incapacitated, like a large stone giant with no one to follow, the heart stays in a permanent beat, waiting for another person like yhwach to once again give it a reason to rush.

[@sntreulfravn2321]

This is so much cooler than what Kubo's answer seems to imply, I would love this

[@ARandomEliatrope]

@@sntreulfravn2321 i just feel like him staying immortal and unkillable due to the miracle (and the fact he's the SKs heart) but still being able to be defeated in a permanent(?) way would've been the best way out for him.

[@laughingvampire7555]

I love the mythology of Bleach, it is pretty interesting how it starts as everyone is a soul but some souls are more powerful than others, some souls fed on others, and some souls are able to transform all this reality and create the reality that is familiar to us.

[@Zazagod420]

The fact that ichigo doesn’t fight him is crazy to me

[@Yuri-tk1oi]

In my opinion. Jugram is the strongest sternritter. Balance can deal with things like lilles intangibility and speed, as it would he a misfortune for jugram, and not being able to break gerards cross is not a problem either. This is balance jugram im talking about, in all theory, almighty jugram could also be top 1.

[@roguegamer8881]

It doesn’t really makes sense to me how that’s his weakness especially when they quite literally destroyed his entire body where was the cross the only explanation is that he somehow move the cross somewhere else and if destroying the cross is the way to beating him does that mean the heart of the soul king will just come out of his body and fly somewhere else to possess another body?

[@tendom3053]

I had a theory a while ago that the cross could move across his body to avoid being destroyed at basically all costs which is why kubo specifically wanted those 3 powerhouses present to defeat him; a conjoined effort of captains that could do widescale destructive blasts i.e toshiro freezing the core along with his body to stop it moving and make it vulnerable while byakuya destroys it after kenpachi reveals its location a second time.

[@tnuhenaj3752]

yeah it's a dumb answer. Some of these answers kubo makes on klub are a bit dumb. Honestly as unpopular as it is i'm happy for gerard to just beat them. Toshiro, byakuya and kenpachi are so popular that they always get the upper hand on their enemies whether they earn it or not. This time It was their turn to get bullshitted by an opponent. Not being able to kill him even after all their powerups. They deserve to get properly humbled once. Even when kenpachi cuts him in half he cuts him where the cross is so it should've gotten cut too. and the big one which was byakuya shredding his entire body minus his legs twice. This is clearly not the case. Unless the cross is so powerful that bankai kenpachi can't break it making it top 5 strongest things in the series.

[@MandatoryFruit]

Kubo literally said that Kenpachi's Bankai wasn't enough to destroy the cross. I see no issues.

[@lukatrdina5108]

If Kubo said that not even kenpachis bankai might not have been enough, then getting caught up in ice definitely isnt going to destroy it

[@lukatrdina5108]

@@tnuhenaj3752 idk, it really doesnt seem dumb to me, seeing that if that cross is that SK's heart, it makes sense that its basically unbreakable.

[@crilleedara]

I kinda enjoyed and accepted that The Miracle pretty much made Gerard immortal. But I really do like this concept of the cross being his weakness, I didn't even notice this when reading. I think the theory of Kenpachi's Bankai weakening it to the point that Byakya or someone could finish it off sounds very legit. Hmmm.. Yeah, Since Lille can phase through abilities and The Miracle now having an actual weakness, I'd agree that Lille now trumps Gerard as the greatest of all Sternritters

[@QrowxClover]

I feel like that was pretty clear and didn't need to be confirmed 😂 Lille easily beats Gerard. He's Quincy Widowmaker. Pernida can 50/50 it. Askin outright stalemates, as he can keep Gerard down without damaging him, but can't break the cross. As I've always said, Gerard and Pernida are the weakest Elites. Glad to be proven right.

[@tartopomme8946]

Askin is the weakest. He may be a "counter" to Gerard, but he is only a substitute after gremmy's death. Which mean Kubo already decided he was overall weaker than Lille, Gerard, Pernida and Gremmy

[@ASNS117Zero]

Nothing about this confirms that Lille can beat Gerard. Kubo specifically makes a point of qualifying everything with the statement of "if they're capable of destroying it." That cross could be just as indestructible as the Hogyoku for all we know. Doing logical power scale with these characters is a fools errand, they're literally as strong as the plot needs them to be at any given time, and the plot at this point was drunk, drugged, and flying off a cliff in a broken down sedan.

[@QrowxClover]

@@tartopomme8946 Gremmy wasn't confirmed to have originally been an Elite. Askin may or may not be a replacement, the statement was ambiguous. Keep your head cannon out of this. Askin is among the strongest, EASILY. His lethality actually scales very far above every Sternritter but Lille, just because there's no upper limit to what he can do. Askin can ignore your Reiatsu to an extent and just toy with you. The same Ichigo that was a threat to Yhwach was easily kept down by Askin alone. This isn't to say that Askin can kill him, but rather that he can punch WAY above his already very high level. His survivability is one of the highest too. While he isn't outright immortal, he can survive things the others can't, such as Auschwahlen. He can survive his heart being ripped out and destroyed(BTW, Blut is not passive and was NOT on. That attack would've ripped most other characters in half and Askin was only injured). He can survive and react to strikes that easily one shot EVERY other Elite, even before being buffed. His reaction times and thinking are off the charts. He's not Urahara, but he's top 4 smartest. Out of the Elites, why do you think Askin was chosen to fight Ichigo? It's because Lille would've beaten him and the rest would've been killed. Askin was the middle ground that couldn't kill Ichigo but could keep him down.

[@QrowxClover]

@@ASNS117Zero Lille doesn't damage. He destroys. I'd recommend reading that part again. He pierces anything he hits with VERY large shots. And it's hitscan. If Lille shot the cross it'd break no matter how strong it was, as that's just how Lille works. You can be logical, you just have to understand the series.

[@sntreulfravn2321]

​@@ASNS117Zero Lille's X-axis removes anything in its sights from spatial existence so the durability of the cross or Gerard's power is irrelevant, besides I can't think of a way Gerard would even be able to harm Lille

[@ColeVickSheepShearer]

Right when I was about to make a hougyoku reference, Tommo makes a hougyoku reference. GG

[@ASNS117Zero]

"Had he been capable of destroying it" is getting passed over a bit too much here IMO. *IF* the Hogyoku is basically a man made Soul King heart, than by that same logic, the real thing should be just as difficult to destroy. Part of this feels like the author doing a "shrug of god" a bit to me - basically the author being presented a perfectly good out for a plot hole by their audience and saying "yeah, sure, let's go with that."

[@shabnaspkp1692]

The hogyoku is not just a man made SK heart it's something highr entirely and the evolutions and powers are massively superior.

[@pacmiller7564]

Yeah it feels like Kubo was just like sure why not on this one.

[@larrycap2946]

Lol fr He probably didnt even care about the fight with gerard and never saw anything wrong with how it ended so he only confirmed it just because. Like you say, if the hogyoku is so strong and invincible then it dosent make sense for the real deal to have a weakness

[@shabnaspkp1692]

@@larrycap2946 real deal ? Hpgyoku is massively superior lol

[@ASNS117Zero]

@@shabnaspkp1692 Yeah sure kid.

[@snow8311]

Strange. I subscribed to the belief that the quincy cross just represented him entering his Vollstanding similar to the cross in As Nodt's eyes. It would have been a lot more fun if the Miracle could instead be used against Gerard.

[@freddieadams8435]

Yeah I definitely think that would have been cooler like he evolves to much that he just implodes.

[@Kalleofae]

Booo... I want Gerard to be the invincible warrior that he was!

[@pacmiller7564]

Me too