Kugoo S1 vs Xiaomi M365 - is a CHEAP Electric Scooter Better?

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#m365 #electricscooter #tech4all
Electric scooters! The M365 has literally changed the world. This is the Kugoo S1 - a model that was designed 2 years ago, and now tries to be resurrected with fresher production.
So far I’ve had mixed feelings about it - some of the things about it are good, some of the things about it are not that good.
Let’s check the speed - 30km’h is claimed which is about 18 miles per hour. I weigh 90 kilos, - around 200 pounds, and the scooter should support up to 260 pounds, meaning that with my boy weight it should be able to reach the maximum speed.
Next is the motor power. Not sure if it is exactly 350W, but it is really slightly better than the Mijia scooter.
Wheel size is the same. The wheel itself is the same, but the tyre - it is much smaller on the Kugoo S1, they call it non-pneumatic, non-slip tire.
Braking distance - claims to be the same on both scooters.Motor brake + disc brake vs motor brake and emergency brake on the Kugoo s1. And having a thumb-controller brake is so unnatural it may easily cost you an accident if you don’ get used quickly.
Let's check some of the disadvantages. We start with the build quality. The construction feels a bit thinner and when we put the scooters side by side - you can see that the Kugoo model looks slimmer, overall not as robust.
It has automatically configured cruise control which triggers after 3-4 seconds of maintaining the speed - funny enough I couldn’t see that in the specs, but it is there and it is good.
It has front break that works based on motor resistance - and while it is not very effective in lower speeds, it breaks pretty well when you are running quickly.
What is worse than the M365 - there is no smartphone app. The riding experience is much worse because of the hard tyres. Maybe in the summer, with higher temperatures the material will be a little more elastic, but at temperatures around 10 degrees - not fun. If the surface is not flat enough it feels often unpleasant.
Also - spare parts and accessories - both models are relatively easy to repair, and Kugoo’s spare parts are less expensive. But the variety you will find about the m365 … You wouldn’t believe HOW many of them are available.
If you are planning it as a first scooter - Kugoo S1 could be alright. If you are wondering whether it feels like an upgrade from the m365 - it doesn’t.
No matter what kind of scooter you choose, remember two things - ride safely and responsibly.
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[@Simon-lh9oh]

i feel like this guy was out of breath when he was making this video

[@TechMishka]

Possibly he was! 🤠

[@Krashworship]

You gotta put negative pressure on the scooter folding mechanism while you push the release lever. Then when it releases reverse the direction of the pressure (folding the scooter). Its just like an ES2

[@JINXSPR0]

Very detailed! thoroughly explained, love the pace of this comparison

[@apolpowermac]

the variety of technology devices your reviewing is getting interesting, keep up the good work. You deserve more subscriber Michael. Stay motivated and keep that enthusiasm alive.

[@TechMishka]

You are so kind and supportive, Anju - a big-big thanks! I will likely keep the type of the devices not too broad, so that I can be properly experienced about what I do - as I always strive to give the best possible information. About enthusiasm and motivation - seeing you around from time to time is quite a contribution 😎

[@martinl1427]

I put some electric isolation tape on the handlebars to fix the wobble, and also used some foam tape on the battery to make it stop rattling. So far done about 15km on it and I´m happy. Sadly has no waterproofing and the warranty does not cover water damage even though it said IP54 in the description, this leaves it usable only in dry weather. By the way I found a way to fold it by kneeling on one knee on the deck next to the rear brake and then just pushing the handlebars to the front with one hand, while pushing the folding lever down with the other. Very quick and easy, even simpler than the original tutorial. Chose Kugoo over Mi because it is more compact folded and there was a deal of 290€ for kugoo when Mi costs about 400€

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Martin - useful tips! And yeah - definitely the price is nicer!

[@scarborosasquatchstation1403]

Tech4All : review on these electric scooters , with the only thing missing is cueing in the Biker music like " Born to be Wild " , when racing Michael down the boulevard !!! lol

[@TechMishka]

Wish we could have included the track, but there are some limitations that have to be followed, so that we respect artist's intellectual property 🙂😇😎 Yeah - that little "race" was quite fun. Unfortunately I had no chance beating Anton 😎

[@Pivoo]

Folding this is tricky. You need to push the handle forward and at the same time use the small lever with your shoe like you did. It's best to do that next to a wall - your front wheel should be blocked by the wall, push handle forward and press the lever. It's much easier in my model, but it indeed is hard :). Also the rear wheel can be replaced to inflated one. I was really struggling which one to buy- Kugoo or Xiaomi, in the end I bought Kugoo because: 1. Speed and range is very similar in both 2. Weight is better in Kugoo 3. Kugoo has display (not that important, but I prefer that than the app) 4. Once you get the hang of folding, it's much more compact than Xiaomi, better for transportation in bus/train 5. It has front and rear suspension 6. Rear wheel can be replaced to inflated (comfort gets almost as good or even better than on Xiaomi) 7. It is cheaper than Xiaomi, even with additional rear wheel which costs 20-40$ Some work needs to be done for this scooter to improve the comfort right after buying, because the build quality is lacking: 1. Rear suspension needs to be loosen up and oiled, because it almost doesn't work from factory 2. Front suspension needs to be disassembled and oiled, because it almost doesn't work from factory 3. Battery cover and LED display needs to be sealed with black silicone - because it has 0 waterproofness from factory 4. Some sponge needs to be put with the battery pack, because it can rattle if you won't do that 5. It's best to buy some teflon tape, or something similar and use it on handlebars folding mechanism to make the vibrations lower, there is like 1mm of loose space between handles and the slots they go into. After you do that, and you buy the inflated wheel, Kugoo > Xiaomi. From factory they are both similar, with an advantage of Xiaomi. Very hard choice which to buy, but if you like tinkering - Kugoo should be perfect :).

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Pivoo, awesome comment and very useful information - feels like the ultimate tutorial to unleash the good qualities of the Kugoo S1. Looks like spending some time on modifications pays well off. I have recently found a video published by GeekBuying about how to properly fold it - and makes good sense - if having no issues with the mechanism in long term is the main purpose - it is something we can live with. HAve you tried any particular tire model? I'd love to post a link. And this comment deserves to be pinned - again - thank you for taking the time and share all that!

[@Pivoo]

@@TechMishka Hello, I bought my wheel in Poland, I didn't find anything similar elswhere, but on Aliexpress there are couple of other wheel models available, for example: www.aliexpress.com/item/8-Inch-Inflated-Wheel-For-E-twow-S2-Scooter-M6-Pneumatic-Wheel-With-Inner-Tube-8/32832263891.html?spm=a2g0v.10010108.1000001.7.4c6e4906uUuYV0&traffic_analysisId=recommend_3035_null_null_null&scm=1007.13338.80878.000000000000000&pvid=7fd0d8fa-c7a5-446e-b61f-9d7159ee0b8b&tpp=1 Size of axel for Kugoo is M6, because this scooter has basically the same design as E-Twow scooter (but is 2 times cheaper). I've read some positive feedback about this tire, so it should be good. Here is a video of installation of this wheel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5-3eHWYn9B4ptU There might be some other Aliexpress sellers with lower prices, but I didn't look it up :).

[@budaisimon6134]

I had to remove the small rounded plastic stuff on the front which keeps the handle for overturning, to be able to open it totaly... Than I had the same issue with the folding. I realized that when I step on the rear brake and push the lever in the meantime while pressing the handle a bit forward, than it can be folded quite easy. - I just felt like I'm an acrobat or something like that while doing this.

[@TechMishka]

There is a video now dedicated to the correct way of folding - you may check it out. Just search for Kugoo S1 Folding in KZbin.

[@adampl2705]

Hej @Pivoo,tez właśnie dopiero co kupiłem s1 na geekbuying. Mógłbyś podesłać jakieś wskazówki/info jak nasmarować obydwa zawieszenia? Z góry Thx!!

[@jorislal]

Just looking at a folding mechanism I can tell that when you just put weight on it it also acts as a resisting force to getting the pin to move. You should hold the bottom part of the scooter and pull it up while pushing the knob down squeezing the 2 parts together. You do that by not applying any force on the front wheel, lift it off the ground and it will be easy to unlock.

[@jpereira987]

Very helpful info. Keep the good work. Thank you

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, will make sure to! Thank you!

[@PmPbreeze]

You have to use your heal and place your heal on the release clip pull the handle bar toward chest while facing the front of the scooter head using your heal to keep the scooter from tipping up that takes the pressure off of the release clip push down with heal while pulling toward your chest together then fold down.

[@thirdeyeshooter2031]

I have a similar bike, to fold it you need to push the metal piece while pushing the handle bar forward ! Took me some time to find out

[@TechMishka]

Thanks!

[@dovydas988]

Yeah thought exactly same 😂 started laughing when he got that thang from his backpack

[@martinakovich5426]

You don t need to strike the pedal with anything.your kugoo is technicly correct.just push back break and a then press a folding pedal.it is easy.

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Martina! You are of course right - I have discovered that too late.

[@gervasiopereira6724]

Nice Information by U Good To be honest with products to Share Thank you

[@belko415]

Folding the Kugoo S1 is Tricky and easy, just push down foot button, and move the handle forward-up. no strenght needed. nice comparison video

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Ivan! Indeed - turned out to be not that difficult. I noticed that GeekBuying have released a video about this.

[@ekab.7586]

Thanks for the great review. The Kugoo Scooter is nice, the speed is ok. The only thing that bothers me is the brake system - it doesn't look safe and reliable.

[@TechMishka]

As most things in life - it is perhaps a matter of getting used to, but I also agree that having an actual disk brake like in the m365 feels safer. To share a funny story - Tony's first ever scooter encounter was with the Kugoo S1. After that he was riding the m365 for a while; and instead of using the brake, he hit the bell, as he has already developed the habit of using the brake on the Kugoo 😎

[@EM-lu2rp]

@@TechMishkadon't worry your too biossed the brake system is fine, that back brake is there just in case, use the electrical brake near the display. Kugoo is better in nearly every way.

[@EM-lu2rp]

It is

[@FRANKSVLOGS]

great comparison 😊🎬

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Frank!

[@araffaelegmw]

Just received my kugoo s1 today. First impressions are great. Solid build quality. Easy setup. Took it for a spin and wow 😮 it’s fast. Very impressive and a steal if you shop around.

[@TechMishka]

In terms of speed - it definitely rocks! The first time I went for a ride on the 3rd speed it felt a little scary 😎👾

[@araffaelegmw]

Tech4All it almost looks like a regular kick scooter but that power makes it something special. Ride safe and enjoy.

[@DrekiTech]

I just wish the M365 had the front suspension! Great vid, thanks for sharing :)

[@TechMishka]

Thanks a lot, Dreki. Yeah, that would have been nice. They could have done it for the PRO... These days I am often riding a chopper-like scooter that doesn't have suspension either, but has super soft seat and rear suspension and feels so much different (in the good way!)

[@xzwarrior347]

There is a rubber aftermarket attachment to reduce the amount of vibration felt on the handles.

[@williamstanton649]

m365 owner here. The motor on the xiaomi is actually a 500w limited to a 250w. You can make your own firmware which makes the scooter a snappier ride. With the amount of people who own the scooter, there are a lot of resources for repair-- if you buy a scooter thats not a xiaomi or a segway, you might end up getting a lemon.

[@thanasisathanasi4965]

Thanks brother. Good info!

[@goclunker]

what is the motor on the pro?

[@_IMNNO]

Go Clunker I think it’s a mfg rated 300w

[@goclunker]

IMNNO yup, that i know but read above, curious as to what it is in real life?

[@davidbeauras6618]

Really? 500w motor is limited to 250w?

[@fitnesschefen]

I have the kugoo, its just another name in my country, it can drive 23 km/hour and range with me on at that speed is 19 km, and I weigh 75 kgs, so for the price im very satisfied

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, that's pretty good! How is it called in your country?

[@lizzam]

HI. i'm confused. which is more comfortable on the pavement? the Kugoo or M365? my m365 on solid tyres vibrates a lot on pavements. not sure about the kugoo though since it has the suspension

[@TechMishka]

Even if one of them is more comfortable, both are not comfortable enough. Looks for something with larger tires.

[@rickay77]

the kugo closing is easy, front wheel against a wall, then put you foot on the scooter press die steering bar a little against the wall and then press this aluminum thing ;D sorry when my english is to bad ;D

[@TechMishka]

Your English is great, no worries. Thank you for the clarification. I also discovered that "trick", but a little too late.

[@starmediaART]

Hi Pivoo, could you post some locations where to order a replacement for the real wheel to get a inflated Version?

[@antodeco]

m.aliexpress.com/item/32832263891.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32832263891&productSubject=8-Inch-Inflated-Wheel-For-E-twow-S2-Scooter-M6-Pneumatic-Wheel-With-Inner-Tube-8 This is the one I ordered. Took less than 5 minutes to fit.

[@radoslavsabev5215]

Страхотно видео!!!Не знаех ,че си от България!

[@TechMishka]

А де! Светът е малък 🙃

[@krige]

I wish you had talked about the front spring of the S1 and made a size comparison when folded.

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Krige, good points. If responding here counts - the folded size of the Kugoo is a bit smaller, and the fact that you can also fold the handlebars makes it quite nice for cars with limited space. The front spring is ... almost inactive out of the box. Some lubrication improves a little, however nothing too great. The Mijia scooter with solid honeycomb tire is a little nicer to ride than the Kugoo with lubricated spring and the original tire.

[@kamul1]

I have similar e-scooter. If you turn front wheel 90 degree and little push to front, you can fold it using one finger.

[@TechMishka]

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, figured that out with the user guide.

[@Hamid_Sazgari]

Really helpful thank you

[@pedronicolasjr7358]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrJooploderus]

Folding is easy and take 2 sec, two hands on the handlebar push up and forwards and push the release pal. No tools needed.

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, I have seen the video that Geekbuying have released 😎😇 Should have seen it in the manual.

[@MrJooploderus]

Buy spare tyres for the m365 you will need them, I change them all because they are not for bad roads like we have in Latvija. It is a pain to change them i have had to change them in one month 2 times.😥 I drive to work 5 km one way so 10 km per day have 730 km on , no problems except for those tyres.

[@TechMishka]

@@MrJooploderus You may think of solid tires - will be not that smooth, but pays off in time 😎

[@-COBRA]

This is like my classic Spartan Jumbo III on steroids! I will buy this.

[@victorfideliss]

Lol hahahaha

[@samuelahmed659]

Did you buy it if so how was it?

[@crople2790]

Today I bought kugoo s1 because I watched this video and helped me a lot.Thank you.I'm really appreciated it.

[@theobserver2212]

Good choice! A few things to look out for from my personal experience (> 1 year of driving, 1300 km in total, spent < $10 in maintenance) - ensure that the handlebar screw near the hook is always tight. After a half year of driving, the adjustable mechanism for handle bar can wear out - there's a spring based button, which holds the handle bar in place - you will loose it at some point, but it can be easily fixed by carefully (you need to watch out for not damaging the internal cable that goes through the pipe) drilling a hole and putting an ordinary screw in place. And last thing - do not drive it completely empty. Always charge it when the voltage drops down to 32-33v in the idle mode, otherwise, if you drive it completely empty (for me it was around 29-30v, when the scooter turned off), you can damage the battery.

[@TechMishka]

Glad I could help! Check the comments from The Observer - very useful

[@someguy9520]

the folding mechanism is only so "stiff", because you are supposed to lift the handlebars up, therefore moving up the two latches and you should be able to easily push down the purple latch with your feet. I broke mine off with your method. Waiting for a replacement latch.

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, thanks to the video a lot of people helped with sharing the correct way for doing that. Fingers crossed to get the replacement parts soon! 🙂

[@starur]

Still love my M365 I feel its still the best for the money. Thanks for the video.

[@TechMishka]

Most welcome. Same here - I don't see it going away anytime soon 🙃 Just looking forward to the spring season.

[@javiermanquillo8565]

@@TechMishka M365 pro OR kugoo s1 pro please

[@WoodooAlien]

M365 is the best. I drive it 2 years already, this summer will be 3rd. The only things I changed were inner tubes (changed once). Also mijia scooter is a pleasure to ride, not like all that ninebot ES or current blue one in this video..

[@TechMishka]

Yup! I got the Kugoo S1 because they were claiming it may be better than the Mijia. And in fact the only thing I am not happy with is the height of the handlebars. To my disappointment the Kugoo has the same height, so... doesn't really provide what it promises to provide. And you are absolutely right about the pleasant riding - very, very different experience.

[@metaomicron72]

I tried my first scooter today, a Lime bike (they use ES1s I think?) And although the specs mention suspension I didnt feel it all or should I say, I felt everything on the road, the cobblestone is terrible. People complain about flat tires on the M365 but they must ride great

[@TechMishka]

@@metaomicron72 The m365 is a bit smoother, yes. Use Slime and issues will be less 😎

[@Raphinho89]

WoodooAlien hi how much km did you make? i have mine since 6 month and i make about 800km

[@WoodooAlien]

Rafa Da Silva not too much - 850km for 2 years. I don't use it every day. But I bought one more m365 two days ago to ride with friends. So waiting for good weather now, we still have snow on the streets..

[@Overnity]

how much are new batteries, and where can you buy the wheels with the holes in? I just ordered one based on your Review's for £234

[@TechMishka]

Not sure about new batteries; And tires with holes - better check Aliexpress and make sure to ask if they are compatible.

[@iberiksoderblom]

So..., if I fitted the wheels and brakesystem from the expensive on to the ceap one, then I would have a complete winner ? About the folding: use army boots !

[@TechMishka]

Maybe the whole construction makes the riding experience not as pleasing as the Mijia scooter. I have found a video published by geekbuying about the folding. Looks like I was doing it wrong since the very beginning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXKZeIBme8erf5Y

[@Jusner]

But are you now able to fold it easier with the instruction Video?

[@TechMishka]

@@Jusner Yes, it is actually pretty easy once you master the sexy movement 😇😎👍

[@mohammedkarim4884]

@@TechMishka you are doing it wrong

[@parabolic777]

For the kugo, Slide it forward as you press down with your foot simultaneously to fold. 😄

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate! Figured that out finally. THere even is a video dedicated to the folding mechanism.

[@MoneyManny103]

great video!!! thanks

[@TechMishka]

Glad you liked it!

[@torontorc4637]

Great comparison video man👍🏽

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate, glad you like it.

[@ThunderWindz]

04:00 what tire feel better? Was very confusing if you talked about the M365 was better or not?

[@TechMishka]

The m365 tires feel much more comfortable.

[@bigjay5415]

Thunderwindz just fill the tubes of the M365 Scooter with a product from your car accessory store called slime. Helps stop flat tyres

[@kondziu124]

Can you exchange the tires/wheels to pneumatic and bigger ones in Kugoo?

[@TechMishka]

You can put pneumatic, but it will be tough getting a bigger one on the rear because of the mudguard.

[@franklyjustty]

Push it against a wall (front wheel) then press lever with foot on base is how u meant to fold the kgs1 it’s so if u press while riding it doesn’t work

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate!

[@YaHuWaH]

Hi what's the lowest voltage the battery gets too when empty? And what's the voltage at full charge show?

[@corbinhawkins9309]

Full is 42V Empty is 30V

[@YaHuWaH]

Corbin Hawkins cheers mate

[@TheBestMoment101]

U need to push the handle bar forward with ur ur shoulder and push the button down with ur hand. Still hard . But had the same problem with the ultra glide

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate. Yeah, found that the hard way.

[@zayanhussain9570]

So on the kugoo s1 to fold it you need to push the front tyre against a wall then push down the folding mechanism this is there to make show the electric scooter doesn't fold down when accidently pressing on it it makes it safer

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate! Found that out the hard way

[@noahthorsen6281]

Can you test the KUGOO KIRIN S1. I just bought it. Great video.

[@TechMishka]

Will see if I can get one of them. It's a great scooter, have fun riding it.

[@cr7editz686]

@@TechMishka yh try that please,I don't know if I should get it

[@iuno777]

as I know you must push the handle bar ahead a bit before you push down that pin on the kugoo

[@TechMishka]

True that! Thanks for the note! 😇

[@moon4lord]

I can tell you how you have to fold it. You have to first apply force on the lever while your foot is also kind of putting force on the deck (so the scooter doesn't lift up) and at the same time push the handle bar. This action happens all at once so basically 2 pushes of force instantly. I also was struggling with closing this like my feet started to hurt at some point until I tried something more different (like I said before) and it is probably t he quickest folding ever, I can do a full fold in like 3 seconds

[@TechMishka]

Thank you for the detailed instruction, Moon4Lord. Very useful.

[@glenn4641]

I saw a video which shows to fold it you need to have the front wheel against something solid i.e a wall to fold it

[@TechMishka]

true that! Thanks for the tip.

[@8Sensitive]

There's a safety feature on folding it.

[@dovydas988]

I have one and when he got the wrencher or some shit and just gave it

[@jamesphillips2734]

You have to push the handlebars forwards 😂

[@e.g.1651]

You have to push the handlebars forward in order to easily fold the scooter dude. Taught it was easy to find out

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate!

[@genuwine4reall]

Hi there how are you doing?does the kuugos1 have a app you can connect via bluetooth

[@TechMishka]

Hey, doing fine. Vacation time in fact! :) Unfortunately - there is no option for smartphone app.

[@jonnycampbell5623]

Dunno if it's been mentionned since but on the Kugoo S1 you need to press the front wheel forward against a wall to allow the folding latch to be used (Also if someone can recommend a scooter for < £500 I'm all ears :) )

[@TechMishka]

Guess the M365 Pro is a good alternative. And thanks for the suggestion - I should have read the user guide 😊

[@jonnycampbell5623]

@@TechMishka aha no worries! Ordered a kugoo S1 Pro myself so I'll see if I'm talking crap or not :')

[@jonnycampbell5623]

@@TechMishka I was slightly wrong, you gotta press the front wheel against a wall and then push forward on the handlebars to allow the latch to be used :)

[@paulf462]

I'm trying to get into the electric scooter and thus far returned a Hover-1 Alpha and TurboAnt V8 Dual-Battery scooter. I need to stay under the $1k and the $600-$800 range is more ideal. I've been doing research on these for a while but all I see are specs. After buying two of them, I see they don't live up to the specs they boast so that's a problem. My biggest thing is speed and overall battery life. I'll never take this thing on super long rides, few miles max but I want a high top end speed. The TurboAnt V8 says 20mph but that's more like 16-17mph, and that's on a good day. The Hover-1 Alpha did actually manage to hit 17-18mph but that's still so much slower than I was hoping for. I started looking into faster scooters under $1k and came across Kugoo. I had to contact them directly to get their speeds because their policy is to not post them on their website I guess? I'm guessing that's because they say it's a top speed of 28mph but it actually does like 23-24mph. If anyone can recommend a scooter that fits the following requirements, please let me know. Under $1k. top speed over 30mph ideally. Max weight at least 260lbs (that eliminates a lot). A battery that won't go to shit in a year (or if it's a replaceable battery, that works too).

[@RukaSubCh]

Have you tried pushing us forwards before pressing the lever down to fold it.

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, lessons learned 😇

[@ninjadog5800]

Hey it's been a while since you made this video what are the scooters up to now

[@TechMishka]

The only scooters I ride in the long-run are the Unagi Model 1 and the M365...

[@ninjadog5800]

@@TechMishka that's so cool hey what about the others did you give em away

[@artkaboom]

Excellent informative and side by side comparison video. Thanks! the folding structure looks much stronger and safer, although difficult, I too suspect something mechanical is amiss. The Kugoo tires do look smaller in diameter on the video.?

[@TechMishka]

artkaboom you are right - the tires are a little smaller, also thinner and lack grip on wet surface. But they can be changed :-) The mechanism is in fact perhaps better than the M365, and there is a video about proper folding. It is described in the manual, but I have overseen this 😎😇

[@distanciometros]

The Koogo have a better lock, only you don´t read the manual, you have to push the handle a litle to unlock and close. After that, the Koogo is very fast and powerful for less money

[@TechMishka]

Yes, it is great for the money! Not sure what your user guide says - in mine at the first page it stays "90KG" payload, on the last page - 120KG.

[@compuguy123]

Wait, how do you have less torque with a larger motor and yet still have greater climbing capacity???

[@TechMishka]

Yes - true that. In my opinion the values given by Xiaomi are in some ways overstatement. Of course partially the Kugoo values are too. But the motor is more powerful and deals better uphills. A little better!

[@zayanhussain9570]

BTW can you change the wheels on the kugo s1 to nematic tyres

[@TechMishka]

Sure thing.

[@Tata_De_alkalo]

I think u should put the front wheel next to a wall and then pesh

[@TechMishka]

That's right, thanks for the recommendation.

[@smcs]

This maybe a year old video. But i just got mine. It's unbranded. But the same. Took me only a few minutes to fold it. You have to push the front wheel or stem or handle then unlock smoothly. Not like that 😅

[@TechMishka]

You are right - I should have seen it on time. But the scooter is pretty cool and there are people that comment here and say that they ride it for more than a year and it works quite well. Enjoy riding yours 😎

[@MaximusAryelius]

Dude, the Kugoo folds fine. Read the manual! you have to push the front wheel against a wall (or any other structure) and then press the release mechanism.

[@TechMishka]

Fair enough! 🙃

[@tonikaucic7205]

my electrical brake is blocked! how can I reset system?

[@TechMishka]

Hm, that I don't know. Have you tried contacting the store you bought it from?

[@brianmi40]

Push forward on the steering column to release the PRESSURE ON THE folding mechanism, as you try to release the spring lock mechanism that holds it in place: it looks like you are simply BINDING it when you press down: that is, when you put your WEIGHT on it, you are pushing down on the WHOLE SCOOTER, which FORCES the locking mechanism TO BIND. This seems destined to end in damage, as surely the pipe wrench is a horrible idea...

[@TechMishka]

Thank you for the tips. There also is a video released by Geekbuying about that. And it is more clear now.

[@WhatAdventureNext]

You have to push the front wheel against a wall for it to fold down

[@TechMishka]

True that, took a while to get used to it.

[@manasyt]

You should try the Inokim Light ;) It's almost double price but much better quality I think. 3 years / 5000 km on mine, after a battery change. I've been living in China for 9 years now but still don't trust Xiaomi enough yet :D . Поздрави от Китай!

[@TechMishka]

Wow, awesome! Greetings back to China :-) In the last weeks I've seen a lot of Inokim models - and interestingly, in Bulgaria they are much cheaper than in UK, for example.

[@manasyt]

@@TechMishka Yeah cheaper here too, they assemble them here... Mine was about 950 lv for the bigger battery model.

[@TechMishka]

@@manasyt Wow, didn't know that! SOunds like a lot of scooters are assembled here.

[@NathanNim]

Got mine today very fast scooter and i relly love it

[@TechMishka]

Awesome!

[@BwadeReacts]

Anybody know how I can get the kugoo in California ?

[@TechMishka]

Doesn't seem to be shipped to the US - likely it lacks some certifications; You may check amazon and ebay for scooters with similar specs, as this is probably a whitelabel, and Kugoo is likely a Gearbest's brand. So if they do that - there might be others doing it as well.

[@jaycespot]

Well, it is very easy to fold it. When you know how to fold a manual scooter it is relatively the same. Put your weight on the foot rest then push the bar forward then press the lever.

[@TechMishka]

Thanks for the tip. Yeah, found that the hard way...

[@joaopina6898]

Like all other reviews, nobody lives in cities with hills... That was one of the specs on the board that you said you would review one by one.

[@TechMishka]

That is actually mentioned. I do live in a city with elevation - you can google Sofia - a place which is definitely not flat...

[@Ali-lt3qx]

@Tech4All you fold it by slightly pushing the handlbars on a walk and lrrssing the button

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Mark. Wish I knew it back then... 😃

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

My REAL problems with the m365 were: 1 - Can't lock it properly. A big hole in the frame, or something? You have to spend 5 minutes making a weird knot every time you lock your scooter. 2 - The "alarm?" feature is just idiotic - You can turn on an alarm BUT ONLY FOR 3 HOURS - I don't care about their excuses - this is simply wrong. 3 - Tires (inner tubes) pop all the time. You can expect to pop a tire every 300-600 kms, which is less than what I would travel in a month. I have a 20 year old bicycle - I had to change tires like 3 times. I had to change 3 tires on my scooter in the first 3 months. 4 - It's way to hard to switch a tire - Especially the first time. Where you can switch a bike tire in like 10-15 minutes, this one takes hours, and it's screwed so stiff, that you will need to be a bodybuder or something, in order to take it apart. 5 - The "vibrating handle" - after the first 100 km you have you have to glue some some stuff to your scooter, to make sure it's not shaking like crazy. 6 - The less power the battery has, the slower the device is. Yes, this is how a battery is supposed to work, but the fact, that you are not able to hit 15 km/h with 25% battery left is just stupid. 7 - "Regenerative braking" is a joke on this device. You end up loosing more energy, due to the fact, that it kills your momentum in the most inconvenient of instances, and you have to accelerate again, which usually end up consuming 10 times more energy, that the one you "regained". And it happened like 20 times - You slow down, because there is a red light, you are down to 1-2 km/h, but now the light turns green, you decide to kick off (because it's much faster to accelerate that way), but the damn regenerative braking is still on). 8 - Wet roads really kills your range - I am not talking about riding trough ponds. I am talking about 2 minutes of rain, and all of a sudden, my range of 25 km drops to 17. I've even fell down to 13 km, when there was wind. Now - this doesn't mean, that It was a fun and nice to ride. I really enjoyed it, while it was working. But there are just so many "small things" that piled up, so I can't recommended this to anyone who is planning to use it in his or hers daily commute ... not yet. Wanna use it as a joyride on weekends - sure, it's awesome! Touring to another town - it's honestly the best way to move between tourist sides. I didn't want to think, how will this thing perform in the winter, so I decided to stick to my bicycle. Maybe will be interested in the next iteration/generation, if they improve on the problems I mentioned so far ...

[@Bilal-fi9ev]

sorry but did not experienced all the things you said with my m365, i had one popped tire after 2000km but thats because i did not change the outer tyre and the outer tyre were really worn out. Changing the tire took me only 30.sec search for the trick in reddit. For 1 i have masterlock in handcuff design. For 6. Either your battery is damaged or you weigh too heavy which is unlikely. Even when the battery is at 33volts when the power level is 25% the scooter should drive 25km/h but with weaker acceleration due to the BMS limits the power when the battery level is below 50% and below 30% more stronger. its just that you cant reach the top speed very fast. My xiaomi m365 reaches 22km/h when the power level is at 5-10%. At 7 you are right but there is already a solution thats called CFW. You can disable the regenerative braking and is only active when you brake actively. Even for 2. you mentioned about alarm for 3 hours, there is a solution. using cfw the scooter is permanently locked and the alarm is activated until you disable it. About 5. I honestly did not glued something or buyed spare parts . The only thing I changed after 2000km+ is that i installed the new x-tech zoom hb brakes

[@kamenberg]

Бат' Мишо, натисни го първо напред съвсем леко преди да активираш (надолу) механизма за подгъване. Моят Бугист Про така го сгъвам. С гаечния ключ ще го счупиш. 😁

[@TechMishka]

Което си е така, така си е. Благодаря за напомнянето ☺️

[@8Sensitive]

Bump the front wheel then step on the folding button then it will work. The reason why you have to stop the front wheel first so you won't accidentally fold your scooter while driving.

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Erick, makes perfect sense.

[@christine2507]

Does the kugoo ride well up hills?

[@TechMishka]

I have to say - very well!

[@smcs]

Do you know where i can get a seat for this?

[@TechMishka]

Check Aliexpress.

[@goclunker]

Can anyone tell me that the motor in the m365 pro is? Is it also a 500w limited to 350w like the m365 is a 500w limited to 250?

[@TechMishka]

Many people say so, but we will have to wait until more people have the chance to disassemble it.

[@bigjay5415]

I thought the M365 was 1000w everything I seen it is except this post. Look at Rollerplausch the firmware I used from him has my scooter at 800w and will do 43km an hour Go Clunker

[@tudoropris2067]

Range between 15 and 25 km is kinda a 65%-66% margin of error...which is kinda huge if you're doing a comparison...charge them to 100% and go max distance on both and tell us the distance for both

[@Patyx42]

it depends on the weight of the driver

[@TechMishka]

Tudor, it is always different. Temepreature, type of road, incline, wind, capabilities of the rider, and so on.

[@tudoropris2067]

@@Patyx42 I know, trust me...i weigh 110 kg :-) in the winter i got a range of 15 km while going on an incline 30% of the way.

[@kxngmohsen2466]

Bro the way to open the s1 is by putting the front wheel onto a surface and then pushing the clip down

[@TechMishka]

Thanks mate! Yeah, learned that the hard way...

[@thepositiveplatformuk7863]

I tested the Kugoo S! and the M365 yesterday - I bought the M365! The build quality is so much better! Raw screws and plastic bits all over the Kugoo, you'll notice the difference straight away if you ride them both!

[@TechMishka]

THank you a lot for sharing this. And I cannot agree more with you. 🙃

[@porscheoscar]

m365 should be compared against the Uscooter Booster if you are going to test this style of scooter. if was previously sold as e-twow brand but that was too confusing so they change to Uscooters name. but it's more money than the m365 because its substantially lighter. you pay for lightweight with good build quality.

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, I am following their progress and they have quite nice models indeed. Will look for ways to get one and compare. Thanks 😇👍

[@porscheoscar]

@@TechMishka i just received the Uscooter Booster V. This thing kills any hill iin NYC and does nearly 25 mph down the hill. And I'm 200 pounds carrying another 20 pounds of helmet and backpack. the folding mechanism works fine with my foot. the trick is to first push down with your foot on the board while your toe is over the red latch and then push forward on the handlebars. I just replaced the rear wheel with a pneumatic tube tire and added Stan's No Tubes instead of Slime. Ride is very comfortable now with dual suspension and air tire.

[@TechMishka]

@@porscheoscar Haven't tried Stan's No Tubes and will definitely get some. And thanks a lot for sharing all that about the Booster V.

[@levthelion]

4:00 Which one feels better? WHICH ONE???

[@TechMishka]

It is the Mijia scooter. Inflatable tires add the feeling of softness. The Kugoo S1 feels shaky. Almost impossible to ride on paved roads.

[@huanitoduklas4964]

Which one goes up hills better?

[@TechMishka]

The Kugoo is more powerful and beats the M365.

[@Melkisedek777]

@@TechMishka Why dont you try to make M365 faster via app and then compare them again up hills! I hope it is possible, maybe it is only on the pro model, I am not sure : ) hehe.

[@adamganjaman2275]

Put your knee on the scooter near the back wheel push the handlebars forward with a good amount of force then push the lever with ease

[@TechMishka]

THanks for the tip, Adam. learned that the hard way.

[@alexderpyracc4053]

Can I drive one in the Netherlands tho? 🤔 The laws are different here than in Belgium

[@Raphinho89]

the only difference: in NL you can smoke and drive in the same time:)

[@TechMishka]

I recently saw a post from a person, who's scooter was confiscated by the police while he was riding on the bike lane. It is the fist time I hear about something... Laws in Europe are still not clear and not accepting electric scooters yet.

[@alexderpyracc4053]

@@TechMishka oh here they are and since it isn't a mobility scooter it's a moped and mopeds need a license and all sorts of lights like indicators front and rear Hydraulic brakes and atleast one mirror

[@alexderpyracc4053]

@@TechMishka there is also a loophole that makes it so you can register the scooter as a mobility scooter which then only requires a insurance plate and the insurance cost of the plate is 975€ ba year for non handicapped people

[@TechMishka]

@@alexderpyracc4053 Wow, these are too many things. I'd rather ride a bike in such a case 😎

[@dylansuart3470]

How did you get it in blue?

[@TechMishka]

That was one of the two available colors, so I got the blue one.

[@pipeqez911]

I dont know if I should get a kugoo s1 pro or an aovo pro help

[@TechMishka]

I'd go with the Kugoo.

[@pipeqez911]

@@TechMishka will do. Thanks!

[@mudabudda]

Have you tried the m635 pro

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, a fantastic scooter!

[@belanagy5667]

What's the difference between the Kugoo S1, Kugoo S2 and the Kugoo S3? Its very hard to find informations and videos about the Kugoo S1, but its easy to find russian videos about the Kugoo S2 and Kugoo S3 that unfortunately, I do not understand. Its seems that the Kugoo S1 an old and outdated electric scooter that they want to sell again in Europe. About the Kugoo S1 I read that the battery is usually going dead after 1200+ miles and the display is often going dead after 350+ miles. What's true?

[@TechMishka]

Hopefully someone with more mileage will report here. So far the scooter has no indications of problems. Indeed - a pretty old model, copying a much more expensive design, and seems to be now freshly manufactured (again) and sold at a more tempting price.

[@Pivoo]

Geekbuying S1 is not in anyway comperable to Russian S1 S2 or S3. It is a mix of S2 and S3. There are lots of differences: 1. Geekbuying S1 has a rear break light, Russian S1 or S2 didn't have it, but S3 has it. 2. Geekbuying S1 has the same front shock absorber as Russian S3 (for S1 or S2 Russians had to buy special octagon sleeves to make it work) 3. Geekbuying S1 Motor wheel and battery is the same as in Russian S2. Russian S3 has more power and mileage. 4. Battery in Geekbuying S1 fits tightly in the deck, like in Russian S3 - in old Russian S1 and S2 it rattled (jumped) inside the deck and broke because of that. Anyway, I still disassembled the deck, took the battery out it and put some kitchen sponge cut into 1cm pieces just to be sure that it really fits tightly. 5. Russian S1 or S2 didn't have a footstand. Geekbuying S1 has a footstand. 6. Folding system often broke in Russian S1 and S2. Geekbuying S1 has the same folding as Russian S3 - improved. 7. Motor wheel wires in Russian S1 and S2 were getting worn after about 100km and the scooter broke because of that. In Geekbuying S1 it is fixed. Russian S1 was first manufactured and sold in 2016, but now it's not possible to buy it anywhere. In Russian market it was replaced by improved S2 and S3. Motor wheel on my Kugoo S1 bought in Geekbuying was manufactured in 2018 november 05, the date is written on the wheel, so it's pretty new. European version is different, so no, it's not an old outdated version that they are trying to sell again in Europe. I'd say it's a fresh start of Kugoo S1 in Europe with the same build quality as Russian S3 and same parameters as Russian S2.

[@TechMishka]

@@Pivoo Wow, thank you a lot for clarifying that! I have found a few russian forums with discussions about it.

[@M1kke78]

So you didn't read the manual how to fold S1? Granted, it's not easy or quick but it's not that hard. Payed $289 so that was nice.

[@TechMishka]

Great price is that! 🌞

[@gedimazs1]

OMG. KG= Kugoo

[@erdemudul8970]

Dude by the kuggo s1 u need push you weight forward to the Steering and push easyily the folding Button u dont need a 🔨 just Physik

[@TechMishka]

Thanks for the idea, mate. Learned this the hard way.

[@user-od3rl5mc]

Could you test an e-twow monster?

[@TechMishka]

Wish I could, but noone around has one 😎 Hopefully soon or later I will.

[@user-od3rl5mc]

@@TechMishka Hope so too, very little info about them outside France, would be the first comprehensive review in English

[@eero77]

U guys in Bulgaria have WD30?

[@TechMishka]

We are still using the previous generation! 😉👍

[@Adrian-yf1zg]

Crazy... Its a safety folding feature.... Youre supposed to pushdown on handle bars

[@TechMishka]

True that. Thanks for the tip! Enjoy riding 🙃

[@StepKeys]

Dude it folds much easier than that. Hope you realised you were doing it wrong lol I bought today an Urbanglide 80XL that is basically the same thing. And the top speed tops 30Kmh after some setting change ;)

[@TechMishka]

Yeah - it was actually described in the user guide, but I wasn't patient enough to read it. 😇

[@selfie183]

A little bit more advanced than the earlier models

[@TechMishka]

😎

[@canerustmert9771]

Kugoo S1 is now priced 235,22 euro and Xiaomi is priced 349 euros.. I am going for the S1

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, already quite a difference!

[@mariorincon2685]

Did you buy Kugoo S1 by Geekbuying, was it reliable, how long it took to arrive, how much you pay, Thank you

[@TechMishka]

Hi Mario - yes - they are one of the few places you can get it from. Based in Europe, it arrived for a week. Sent from Poland, so there were no complications.