Kung Fu Myth Buster: Chinese Grappling Real World Application!!

Kung Fu Myth Buster: Chinese Grappling Real World Application!! In this part one series, Shifu Gregg gives a real account into the often misunderstood and secretive techniques of Chin-Na, Chinese seizing and locking. He gives the basic understandings of the levels of techniques and how to apply that to real time fighting. This mini grappling series is broken up into three parts to you a great working knowledge into the world of Chinese grappling!!
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[@chrishanson9626]

I really like what you said "it's up to the martial artist".....I preach that all the time! You can't blame a style or an instructor....blaming is negative, and you immediately forfeit responsibility for your own development. ALL martial arts work, we have to test and modify, study, and keep growing......i always have resisting partners.....otherwise, it's just dance. Great vid sir, keep up the good work.

[@Krissada1000]

"it's up to the martial artist" is WRONG!!!! There is no need to compare you and the others. Compare you with you. You need to ask yourself what martial art will make you better at the same amount of time and effort.

[@LAVATORR]

People who say "don't blame the style" are universally people in shitty styles. I hate to say it, but all styles are not created equal. Some produce consistent results, and some don't. If you had to bet a million dollars on a fight between 1,000 Muay Thai fighters and 1,000 Tai Chi fighters, where would you put your money?

[@JulyFourth1776]

@@LAVATORR This video proves that Shaolin can work when used right.

[@LAVATORR]

@@JulyFourth1776 If your entire style's validity hinges itself on one person instead of, you know, thousands of people, you're really not off to a good start.

[@Krissada1000]

@@JulyFourth1776 No. It proves nothing. Only security cam can show you what works in real world.

[@davedaddy101]

Aside from being street practical, Chin na also looks good on the screen. I wish we could see more of these techniques in films.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Agreed🤙🤙🤙

[@Beatinz11]

A number of Sifu's in the system I practice are doormen and find chin na super effective

[@LAVATORR]

I love how literally every TMA guy on earth brags about how they know this bouncer that uses their style in real life all the time. First off, that's a hilariously feeble thing to brag about. Oh, so your style works really well when your enemy is drunk, untrained, emotional, smaller than you, and outnumbered? AWESOME. Can he wristlock a granny too? Second, you have to wonder why all these bouncers are risking their personal safety dabbling with kung fu nerve pinches when they could just take a real grappling style like Judo/BJJ/wrestling and completely cut out the "experimentation" phase altogether. Just seems odd that you wouldn't extensively crosstrain in stuff that's been proven to work and dabble in the gimmicky shit after you have a solid foundation.

[@tonypeterson5316]

@@LAVATORR LOL First of all, Judo and Jiu Jitsu are TMA as well.... Secondly, There's a difference between self defense/street fights and tournament fights, as they have rules and limitation. Ppl don't want to get injured when they do demonstrations, just like MMA guys when they train and spar. I think u r just a narrow minded individual that only believes in UFC and WWE.

[@LAVATORR]

@@tonypeterson5316 1) Yeah, everybody knows that. The designation "TMA" is more of a politically correct way of informally lumping together arts that...well, just aren't that essential. The ones you can just ignore. The ones notorious for dead patterns, unrealistic techniques, and a disinterest in competition or tangible improvement. So most forms of karate, kung fu, Aikido, etc. 2) Oh boy, this old chestnut. Haven't heard this argument in the past 36 minutes. I'll give you the bullet points: --MMA isn't a style, it's a results-based methodology based on real-world data. It's not guesswork and it's not an ideology. It's about what works and what doesn't. --We didn't settle on the BJJ/boxing/Muay Thai/wrestling/Judo cluster for political or religious reasons, we did it because those arts consistently produce the best results in the real world. --"I train for THE STREET" is sort of a universal punchline because most of the people who say this actually do way less sparring and with way more rules. --The differences between "self-defense" training and "MMA" training aren't that significant. 99% of what you see in MMA is extremely effective on THE STREET. --Groin strikes and eye gouges are colossally overrated. Striking the balls is harder than it looks due to variations in clothing and men's natural desire to protect their dicks. And because it relies on pain compliance, a man experiencing an adrenaline dump may not actually feel the pain until after the fight. Eye gouges....look, if you can't hit me with a weapon as big as your fist at a target as big as my face, what makes you think you can hit me with a weapon as small as your finger at a target as small as my eye?

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

@@LAVATORR Honest to God your post should be copied and pasted in the comments of literally every bygone era martial art out there making the most ridiculous grandiose claims about it's relevance.

[@lancehobbs8012]

Sure

[@LunaticReason]

I really like doing the Chin-Na technique my Sifu teaches me although its probably fucking up my joints doing them because he's pretty rough lol. Its fun and cool because we don't just do the one technique we chain them together and improvise based on how the the opponent reacts its lock vs lock and when a lock fails then we go into strikes and if a strike fails we go into locks

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thats awesome . We do the same thing here at our school. 🤙. Fight the good fight warrior. Thanks for watching.

[@blockmasterscott]

But, but, it’s not done by a guy in a cage, so it obviously doesn’t work! That was sarcasm by the way.

[@LAVATORR]

More like "When you spar at the end of every class for years, you pretty rapidly learn what does and doesn't work, and this shit does not work."

[@IamnotfromUSA]

@@LAVATORR It works but only parts of it

[@RKmndo]

​​@@LAVATORRSome people are better at applying techniques than others. Not everybody can easily roundhouse kick another person in the head and knock them out. They might not have the necessary speed, flexibility, accuracy, power, timing, etc. Not everybody can easily put a resisting opponent into a rear choke. They might not have the flexibility, positioning skill, strength, etc.

[@marconjakecanonoy]

This is what Chinese Kung Fu should focus also, ground game, if your martial arts has no ground control then it's not a complete martial arts.

[@Zack1440]

This is awesome, thank you for posting this video!

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Zack Zack , your very welcome. Please subscribe and spread the word. :-) thanks again. More videos to come

[@RKmndo]

I used Wushu as a bouncer during college. I never had to punch anybody.

[@JOROZC7009]

liked the video a lot, awesome applications

[@tmarevisited118]

Sifu, you seem to be really good at bringing out the practical applications from forms. I have a request that I think will get some serious buzz going in the whole MA community. Something I've wanted to do for a long time myself but I don't have the background in Chinese martial arts you do... There is an obscure style known as gou quan or "dog boxing" which is known for it's qin na (grappling) sacrifice moves (throwing your bodyweight) and ground fighting. Because BJJ is so huge right now, people go nuts for ground game, but hardly anyone knows there's a traditional Chinese art that specializes in this. If you could tease out a handful of practical techniques from dog boxing and show them applied under pressure with active resistance it would be sensational! I'm sure you'd get a *lot* of people to reconsider their opinions of Chinese martial arts that way.

[@flmmjdealssnokereviews2259]

I too have read about dog Kung fu. It seemed like a good style ground wise etc. Awesome I think it's obscure. Paper. Rock. Scissors. Strikes are countered with wrestling , wrestling countered by chin na. Then strikes to beat chin na ..... If u can... I learned northern mantis and taichi yang style. Does anyone know a place like this, where you do forms and learn to work each technique. In Orlando FL. It's going wushu with how freesparring is like kickboxing... No making you fight with form moves. Throws takedowns no. Exchange blows then whistle stop whistle go. Youd have 4 forms done yet never did I see any mantis. I had MMA gloves vs boxing gloves. I would try to make sure to use mantis. Nope, just better footwork, you'd get hit or block and revert to closing in for headlock or rear choke. Headlock pound them to it's on ground. Whistle at trying if u were stupid. All about forms and practicing them vs muscle memory a form technique, just chin na partners, Tai chi had no martial applications practiced except pushing hands drill.Not tried The forms were meant to be easy ways to pass an armory of moves to students and back then a lot were illiterate. Also you might naturally be built height or muscles different so all moves might not be able to be put into your personal style. Do not fear the man that knows 10,000 different kicks fear the man that practice one kick 10000 tmes

[@deancummings3854]

Excellent as always Sifu, you never disappoint! 😊👍

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thanks. Appreciate the support. We will be visiting this subject again🤙🤙🤙

[@gregdaniels1559]

Great information

[@markchristiangayoma7122]

This is channel is the best Kung Fu school

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thank you for the kind words. 🤙🤙🤙🙏

[@Dr.B_TigerStyle]

Great video. You do justice to enlightening others on the real world application of the ancient martial arts.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thank you for the great comment. Appreciate it 💪🤙

[@itsonlycyclops]

grappling seems to be my favorite form of kung fu, it looks a lot like judo though.

[@BearsArms45]

he may have been a tad bit rough, but I like that in teachers or kung fu brothers. I'm a martial artist. I like being hit when practicing and I like hitting back. My first school was too gentle and I was always doubting the effectiveness of certain things. It wasn't until I met a powerful and rowdy Sifu that I was able to understand how easily strikes can stun someone and how much force I can take before the pain is too much. Plus, it allows us to advance to much faster and harder training which gives me the confidence that I can work against full power punches. Great video! Love your channel, keep it up!

[@bigmember5908]

if you actually spar, you don't need that when getting reps. and if you are not sparring, you are not training effectively

[@peterwang5660]

You sound like you know what you're talking about, it's truly a relief, I've already seen real kung fu, but every new person I find online or in person who does real kung fu just makes my day. My biggest frustration with Mainland Chinese is that they are the most openly nationalist Chinese there are, and of course, they are the citizens of the country that is the primary face of our culture, but they themselves know nothing of MAJOR aspects of our culture that are famous and practiced by foreigners constantly.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

I just checked out you page. You have some great content on it. Thanks for your support. It's hard to find good kung fu stylists that can actually apply techniques and fight correctly. I subscribed to your channel. 🤙🤙🤙. Blessings and light 🙏

[@jayjay53313]

Yes, they do work and so are the striking moves. Problem nowadays is most wushu & kungfu groups don't bother to train grappling just because it's not included in grading test nor competition. Same thing with actual kungfu full contact sparring that was abandoned. The actual lei tai match was replaced with sanshou/sanda regulation removing ground and low level fight. Also the use of bulky boxing gloves cut down hand techniques to just few basic punches & blocks. Bruce Lee brought the actual lei tai rules to America and it was relabelled as mma using simplified strikes and grappling. Credits all gone to mma. It's Great that you still train kungfu fighting. Over here, Chinese don't bother to train anymore saying kungfu is just for exercise and health or better use guns when none of them have guns at all. None of them wanted to train fighting, accuracy, grappling, strength for real. Thanks for your effort.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thank you for your awesome comment. it's nice to see other people who appreciate and recognize real Kung Fu. More videos to come. please spread the word.

[@jayjay53313]

Authentic Shaolin Kung Fu it depends on you guys now to restore kungfu back to its glory. Chinese kungfu practitioners do started to participate in local mma fight matches but most would jump straight to simplified sanda, well at least they apply some original grappling moves still. Thanks.

[@jayjay53313]

james67707 Chinese didn't bother to restore kungfu actual fighting syllabus. They got no where to turn to and MMA Gyms gain popularity through marketing. That's all. Now Chinese are bored with MMA and they just don't bother to train fighting any more.

[@KeytoKungFu]

Yes you are right, we have to restore it... Actually other guys are simply to stupid to see their own mistakes and to work on it, then gettting frustrated and learn muay thai or sanda... I thought I was the only one to train it in a not stupid way but now I realize there are more awesome guys who do that... So at this point I argue in favour for building an alliance of guys who restore missing knowledge... So I for myself have knowledge in building a kung fu fighting structure and in understanding what kung fu stances really are... and know what?! No it aren´t stances! Feel free to ask^^ I had a great video but had to take it out because of school internal conflicts...

[@jayjay53313]

The Kung Fu Channel it all depends on you and Greg Zibb now to teach real kungfu application to good people so that they got something at least to fend off attackers.

[@jimicwhite]

Real stuff this is awesome

[@jasonbrodeur8379]

Nice video love joint locks I'm a clf student

[@caseylynn5808]

Awesome!

[@pill677]

I love ur vids. u earned a subscriber

[@AuthenticShaolin]

kenpachi republican thank you so much. more videos to come.

[@josephhernandez3907]

Nice. Awesome video. I do judo. The Japanese cousin. I like your application. Because alot of people get turned off saying well you can't catch punches it'll never work. Bit in my experience its better to bait someone leave your arm out or push their fist towards them rather than try to catch a punch. Again awesome vid man.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thanks for watching and appreciating what we are doing. Please subscribe and spread the word. More vids to come. 🤙🤙🤙

[@geroldhartmann5236]

Very cool 👍

[@lewislyles2342]

Keep up the good work

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thank you. I appreciate you 🤙🤙🤙🙏

[@fabricio4794]

Eminem is a Good Kung Fu Master now....what a suprise....

[@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG]

3:26 I make that same face when my Sifu gets me in a nasty joint lock when demonstrating something. It's like you're thinking, "Damn it this shit hurts but it's fucking amazing at the same time."

[@wesdowty79]

Good luck with all that.

[@KeytoKungFu]

Nice Kung Fu! Full respect from my side and insta subscribe

[@jchien]

I have a problem with pain compliance techniques. Any violent aggressor is high on adrenaline and pain compliance usually does not work.

[@RKmndo]

I worked as a bouncer and encountered such. Many locks still immobilize somewhat, or buy time. If you have a hold on somebody, you are often still able to use the hold to unbalance them if the pain compliance isn't as effective as you'd like. Some locks/holds are also not strictly "pain compliance". They can also reduce the amount of force/leverage that an opponent can bring to bear. It's generally not as easy to put full power into a right hook when you're falling from being thrown/swept, or when your left arm is barred. A grip is generally not as strong if the wrist is uncomfortably cranked. Competitive wrestlers restrain people, and they aren't allowed to use "pain compliance" techniques in competition.

[@joaquinflores3547]

Any schools of this out here in the Chicago IL area? Im training Muay Thai and BJJ but I like Kung Fu also

[@AuthenticShaolin]

joaquin flores I'm not sure what's out your way but we will be doing Skype lessons if you are interested.

[@CarlosDinora]

I agree. Im big on BJJ, but all arts are good. Take what you need from all arts. These are great techniques on this video. Respect.

[@joaquinflores3547]

Authentic Shaolin Kung Fu ok

[@EliteBlackSash]

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[@PandasOnRage]

First mistake was your greeting

[@renatoabrigo6965]

Do you have a demo on that technique in orthodox? I noticed that all your partners are southpaw.

[@AuthenticShaolin]

It can be done on both sides. We practice all these drills with partner fighting right & southpaw. Not sure if I have a demo on it but I'm sure I can make a short for you. 🤙

[@renatoabrigo6965]

@@AuthenticShaolin thanks

[@NoLongerAllowed]

This wasn't real time...

[@atozknowledge5994]

"It's about the artist how he draw not about the art"

[@AuthenticShaolin]

The art should grow with the artist. Thanks for watching 🤙🤙🤙💪

[@sakshamchoudhary9203]

Love u guys people are showing shitty things while u people give the gold

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Thank you🤙. Appreciate it 💥🙏

[@demodeiowa]

The problem is your real time i still prearranged. Would much rather see the art of chin na in real fights

[@carlosquiroz7819]

Love how the opponent stays static at the end of the combination waiting for the sifu attack

[@CharonTFM]

That’s how you practice even in MMA

[@ProfessorBulletMG]

That’s the part about his so-called “real world” applications that I have a problem with: Every technique always looks beautiful when executed against someone who is not resisting. He should really find guys from other styles to have them come at him and see if it looks as pretty as it is in his video. Bringing some videos of you going to Jim’s with our boxers, tae kwon do fighters, or just regular streetfighters, unless see how good it looks then.

[@RKmndo]

​@@ProfessorBulletMGWatch Sanda and Shuai Jiao competitions. You'll see some Chuan Fa and Chin Na techniques used against resisting opponents. Where do you think MMA techniques originated from? They originated from TMA. Many are adapted to fit within a sport/competition ruleset.

[@b_sugar1613]

why many of your technique is same with kali empty hands? maybe bruce lee teach dan inosanto with kung fu and inosanto incorporate it with kali...? maybe..

[@christulloch3473]

No more likely they just existed in Kali already. It's what they call convergent evolution after all. There are only so many ways the human body can move. Many cultures developed grappling techniques. Wrestling and Grappling, submissions etc are always nearly the first MA of any culture we see examples of it in various forms all over the world.

[@Bakmeipai]

Hey Shi Fu Ur instagram has been bloody hacked. 🙏🏼

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Yes it has.

[@Bakmeipai]

@@AuthenticShaolin That sucks strange Shi fu

[@fernandiaz40]

china locks?

[@fernandiaz40]

lol

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Fernan Divino Diaz Amador yes Chin-na Locks. it's called chin- Na. (seizing and locking). what have you been training in? How long have you been training?

[@scottthompson-ez1hz]

regardless of all movement I believe that realist contact should start with slow. controlled sparing. it might take longer then another method but the circle of awareness becomes very acute with persistent practice . take a page from tai chi and all the rest of the internal arts ( slow the fuck down) sorry to tell you but i have a profound belief that in the next decade trouble like good ol north America is going to git bitch slapped never before. am I joking. maaaayyybbbee. so inclusion practice very mindfully and follow your owe path.

[@nizz0matic307]

what do you mean "real time". you still know when he is going to hook, or throw the punch, and the punch is going to be thrown in the exact way you need it, to do the takedown. i just really doubt this would work against an opponent throwing random punches. i would just block and strike in self defense, fuck trying to catch their arm and tangle it up like a pretzel dude.

[@chrishanson9626]

All vids, including this one, is just presenting an idea....it's up to us to make it work. Good point though...and you are right. Real time is a surprise random attack....hard to simulate without getting hurt...but you can try to come close with equipment and simulations.

[@pyronicdesign]

Okay, yeah, couple things. Your student is moving at half speed while you are moving at full speed. second, you student stops moving the moment he throws his last punch. third, and this is annoying to say, your entire techniques is scripted. pull it off in sparring. it can be done,

[@yuenhai]

I think in a real fight, you're not going to expect to be able to land this immediately at the start of a fight More likely you'll be trying to probe your opponent and wait for him to slip up or make a mistake and when he does this is how you go in and subdue him People get start getting sloppy as a fight drags on, either due to getting tired or getting reckless, so this demo here is how you capitalize on that, at least that's how I see it

[@kunvarnitin]

hey this is not kungfu, It's a part of indian gatka which is mainly used by shikh

[@scottthompson-ez1hz]

hey guess what. all of asia shares technics and yes this is because it can be found in all cma.

[@alstone4253]

That's like saying a front kick isn't a taekwondo technique because it's found in karate

[@jassimarsingh6505]

No this is not “Gatka” this is called Shui Jiao Chinese wrestling

[@scottphillips8117]

"I'm working on real time stuff"... but telling him which punches to throw. Weak sauce man

[@AuthenticShaolin]

This is a video explaining Chin-na. An explanation and instructional video, but you knew that already. " Real time material. " stuff I used in Sanda fights, bodyguarding, and also material I had the pleasure teaching our military and air Marshall's. If it's good enough for my countries military I could give a rats ass what you think is weak sauce. I actually liked your channel and liked your approach on the cryto market. Thanks for your comment and hope you dharma leads you in a better direction.

[@theone-jm3gl]

All these kung fu vids by white guys 😂, they start dating Asian women and now they are kung fu masters gtfoh