Kuro Messed Up with Camellya

[@saintontas]

Kuro scammed themselves with how well they designed Camellya. 4 completely different but viable playstyles using one team is something that we never expected, but that's what they delivered. Single target? She's got it. Multi-wave AoE content? She's got that too. Sweaty top 1% speedrun rotations? She has that with double intro. They hit it out of the park with this one.

[@MarionFR]

😲

[@Crispymantis123]

I’m grinding the atk% set for her🎉❤

[@ClarkHamilton-y9e]

She’s good against every boss that’s not named inferno rider

[@codednan7632]

​@@ClarkHamilton-y9e that's totally hell for her 😭

[@203tron]

@@ClarkHamilton-y9e I had literally 0 problems against him, in fact it's one of the easiest bosses for her

[@trashqueen656]

Truly masterful character personality and gameplay integration. Doing bananas damage with relative ease, a testament to her boredom resulting from no challenging foes to fight

[@codednan7632]

wow, i haven't realized that. maybe that's not a coincidence. well played kuro

[@HansangVibration]

whoooa never explored that angle! Thats why she's so simple to use: that's how she sees the world (and every fight): just boredom... But when she (the player) puts effort it feels like dancing. Love it. She has the best gameplay / personality integration.

[@Gheniel_]

Hmm so when she goes red she easily defeats the opponents with low effort and gets bored, but when she goes white she challenges herself and has more flexibility to play around like in her trailer

[@Google_Censored_Commenter]

Camellya's Heavy attack backswap is honestly one of the most satisfying things you can do in this game, and people call her a one button carry, smh.

[@XenoWars]

I mean, you're still just holding basic attack to do her entire cycle, which includes the heavy. So yeah, one button carry.

[@abelingaw5070]

Well, you can just hold M1 (PC) and let her do her loop until every enemy is dead.

[@shantanukandwal91]

Whats backswap

[@forekmuchomorek7157]

​@@XenoWars It is easy to interrupt because she is very vulnerable in this state. Unless you have C1

[@XenoWars]

@@forekmuchomorek7157 Incorrect. She has interrupt resistance S0. S1 only affects Ephemeral. Man, so many people trying to say things when they don't know her kit.

[@ONLY.FOR_YINLIN]

Waiting for my wife YINLIN ❤ to arrive again

[@veedizzy]

I don't think Kuro messed up. I think they know what they are doing. They created a character that is accessible to a wider demographic. Although I must say that Camellya is not as complicated as many try to portray her. Fact is, she is designed to accommodate (1) single bosses versus mobs and (2) skilled vs casual/new players. Great! This will entice new players to spend their asterites before 2.0 arrives. Great video as always. Hopefully you don't mind me disagreeing a little but for the most part I do agree with this video. Anyways leaving you a like.

[@the7blargs]

I've been having a blast with her, and she makes me want to take on a lot of the harder content. Never get tired of her animations.

[@codednan7632]

your contents are always interesting. youre very creative. youll be the top wuwa creator for sure. keep it up bro 💯

[@vnm1r]

Yoo Congrats for 18k subs ❤

[@saintontas]

🎉

[@XenoWars]

Zhezhi doesn't even have a dedicated DPS to buff, so it seems weird people always include her when talking about it. Maybe the new Glacio character in 2.0 though will want Res Skill.

[@frianoMontez]

Bro skip lingyang like it never existed. 😂

[@Stardrifter404]

Hoping Zhezhi ends up BiS for her

[@kurok1tenshi]

@@Stardrifter404 Coping you mean lol, even at max dps she isn´t reaching main dps´ dmg but she is a great sub dps for Jinshi and Lingyang.

[@XenoWars]

@@frianoMontez I don't have him or know what he scales with. But also, it's Lingyang. I used him in IR and man did he suck.

[@jolabs6516]

@@XenoWars Dude he slaps in IR if you know how to use him. He is just level 1 on mine and gave him the 5* standard gauntlet.

[@EndlessGenesis]

High quality cinematic content ✨

[@GiGo52]

I just got her two days ago, and she is pretty fun to play as

[@jmmaliza7389]

Only know 2 of her play styles and this will help me enjoy her more ♥️💯

[@_______5479]

doing double intro on the hazard tower 2 is like trying to be a masochist, those glacio dogs are forever a personal hated duo

[@pfortunato78]

LOL! After watching his vid on how to maximize Camellya's dmg by burning pistils first before going to sanhua then back to Camellya I decided to try it. Specifically on that floor. Yeah, that was a bad idea. Way easier to not do this style that requires more micromanaging of rotations and just unga bunga those first set of mobs.

[@polaroyde]

Camellya gameplay mastery progression is encore’s on fucking steroids- Easy to learn the basics, but a TOTAL pain in the ass to master.

[@Otherface]

I have been saving since launch for this one character in particular. And now as a proud S3 Camellya haver, the only thing i need is skill. (Seriously Tower Of Adversity is humbling me)

[@snyper64]

I actually like the fact that she is on screen more than just the usual quick swap team. It's a nice change of pace to the monotonous hoto mechanics that every game is copying. Would love to see something that is more of a tactical/action combat where you only swap out characters as the battle dictates.

[@HansangVibration]

this game is absolutely stunning

[@barijade]

Seems I chose the right unit to adore and save to S6.

[@ThePlayfulJoker]

I love Sanhua design so much. For a long time i WISHED to use her without compromizing on team damage. Now I finally can. WUWA only gets better and better.

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

I realized she is actually very viable for me cause I got several resonance chains, her ultimate is always up Literally just intro > skill > ult > judgement cut > outro ready Very fast and simple and cool af

[@iulian8628]

The only Limited 5-star DPS with a proper 5-star buffer is Yao. With a proper 4-star buffer are Camellya and Jiyan. Jinshi has received the fewest buffs compared to the others (25% skill damage). For camellia, the multipliers made it obvious that White is for a single target and Red is for AOE.

[@HazyOra]

Idk if you've made a video on it yet. But what did you think of Camellya's story? I loved it and would love to know your thoughts on it!

[@jacenouzen]

animation powercreep is real, and I'm all for it. Anyone else excited for 2.0? Im writing myself the red and white dress girl

[@mikoajbaszczyszyn4568]

Do you think we'll need to learn Double Intro for Camellya's SubDPS? Sanhua is good because her field time is practically nothing - with the white and red hair regular rotas, I have just enough time to get Shorekeeper set up, Intro Sanhua, do her rota, Intro with Camellya and build up Pistils with either red hair mode or Skill+plunge for white hair, cast Ult, Ephemeral, and use up her Blossom Forte with just enough time to Intro with Shorekeeper with Stellarrealm still up. But her subDPS will definitely need more time on the field I think. So I can't really think of a way to squeeze a character with a longer rota into the Stellarrealm duration, and a longer uptime for subDPS buffs might be necessary. Also, how much of a damage buff will the new character actually give Camellya? The Outro will be the same as every other subDPS, with 20% element (Havoc) deepen and 25% type (BA) deepen. But I did some testing and math, and confirmed some things: amplification is additive to each other, so it will be 1.45 times for the specified damage source. Testing Xiangli Yao Ult first hit, with Yinlin Outro and no other buffs, I got 1.44999 times the damage every time. For Camellya whose damage is around 90% Basic Attack, compared to Sanhua's Outro, it is 5% damage increase for BA attacks. But Intro, Outro, and Ult aren't Basic Attack, so would benefit from the 20% Havoc deepen. Still, in total it probably wouldn't be more than 10% damage difference, but most likely a little bit less. I saw a breakdown somewhere, not sure how accurate, and BA constitutes about 85% of her damage at S0. So like 8% higher damage than with Sanhua? The new subDPS will of course be dealing damage herself, much more than Sanhua, but I really don't think it's a good trade-off for Stellarrealm running out at the start, or even before Camellya enters Budding mode. We will definitely have time to cast Ephemeral, at least. Only way I can think of to make the new subDPS better than Sanhua across the board, is to have her rota be extremely quick, and almost all of her damage being done with her off-field. Kinda like Yinlin and Zhezhi, but you know, faster rota. You Intro, Forte Skill Ult and Echo, then Outro for Camellya. In 'n out, 2 second adventure. It all hinges on her Forte I guess. Can you build it up before the burst damage rotation or when she's off-field, or is it a more unique Forte like Sanhua''s which doesn't have to be filled? Oh well, we'll see in the coming days, maybe during the next two weeks.

[@kithicide]

- You don't *Need* to learn the double Intro rotation and it's completely fine if you play casually to forego it and just spam as normal. That being said it's pretty easy to do and results in a sizeable DPS increase due to maximizing the buff uptime from Sanhua's outro. - You can fit an entire "double intro" rotation into Shorekeepers Ultimate uptime, If you want a rundown of the rotation it would be something along the lines of the following. SK Skill Camellya Skill Sanhua Skill Liberation Forte SK Basics Echo Camellya Echo SK Basics, Forte Liberation Camellya Intro Skill Spin Skill Sanhua Skill Echo Camellya Intro Liberation Forte It doesn't actually increase the field time demands of Sanhua, it actually makes her take less field time.

[@shutup5555]

WuWa ruined Camellya

[@Gojo_Mas]

Was waiting for the video❤ No live stream today ?

[@Overlyopinionated-wl8jq]

Is her basic chain still more powerful than blossom mode once she’s s3? I got SUPER lucky and got 3 copies in 20 10x pulls, so I’m sitting at s2, and tempted to go for her s3. But I noticed it increases the damage of her blossom mode by like 54%. Also, I found her companion quest so damn wonderful. I teared up when she was in the fetal position crying in the rain. Kuro does that a lot lol. They’re good at pulling at my heart strings

[@saintontas]

That node gives her a buff when she enters BUDDING mode (uses her enhanced skill at full concerto) It is not tied to her blossom mode, so you get its full power regardless of which basic attacks you use.

[@Overlyopinionated-wl8jq]

@@saintontasthank you for catching that! I mighta been so giddy from s2 that I skimmed instead of read lol.

[@brandonm3997]

@@Overlyopinionated-wl8jq yea i also wanted to go for s3 but i think its not worth it rather gonna save for jinshi

[@frianoMontez]

People are asking for quickswap character more now. Those that have touch quickswap can never go back to hypercarry. It feels slower to play hypercarry team. Camellya is jack of all trades. She trade in her damage to be able to quickswap on normal mode. Losing buff due to quickswap and her signature buff. Her playstyle suited more to hypercarry from single to aoe. Her kit is what makes it OP, just basic attack buff to buff more than 70-80% of her kit. However, the issue with her is vulnerability and longer on field time needed to fully utilise her rotation. This issue is what players need to realise or adapt in terms of her buffing. However, her damage have already rival jingshi which makes it somewhat of a cheat. If her damage were to be similar 0.5 character. She would be less viable and easily skip. Her lack of freedom in team comps is what kill this character. She need basic attack buff more than anything. So without her signature, her damage fall off. No sub dps to buff her basic attack will significantly drop her damage like a double edge sword. Many main dps have different damage in their kit. Camellya is heavily on basic attack. This is the pro and the con. She need to be force into quickswap rather than being fluid. Her damage falls off to 0.5 or even lower for quickswap.

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

She might feel restrictive, but combining her E with such a short cooldown + jump attack and all makes her quite versatile for many situations Changli is still queen though, that stays true And Jinhsi is still meta, but that's no wonder since she is #MyMagistrate

[@Happ1ness]

3:48 yeah, from what I know, a whopping 1.2% more effective than using her e spin. Not to mention it's less forgiving

[@Lmao-truth-5670]

you know what I got Camelleya in my first pull! first pull!

[@MarionFR]

Too good for a 5*?? What does that mean???

[@saintontas]

too much value for one 5* character. 4 different playstyles with just S0 on just one team that all have competitive clear times and use cases in different content is insane for a single character.

[@Gheniel_]

Bro wanted her to be 6* character 😂 Basically an SSS+ character in PGR language

[@MarionFR]

I have a lot to learn about Camellya

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

Maybe we will have 6* characters when resonators begin going through second awakenings

[@sangdebu5382]

ofcourse another youtuber bullshit thumbnail, how the fuck this guy said too good for 5* when max rarity for character is 5*

[@ragnorak5095]

I thought someone did the math and the *far more* Normal/red hairs basic is like 3/4% due to animations etc.

[@TheDestinies]

Don't forget the 5th playstyle most people probably do; don't think, just spin

[@ManongBanTube]

I'm using her as a normal attack single target focus and damn she's busted. Might try other options because she's selfishly fun to play.

[@kimannepark4709]

Camellya is too perfect, strongest dps and too strong and so op.

[@DeJaVu804]

My biggest issue with Cameltoe is her empowered skill attack being able to be cancelled and having a “damage immunity” locked behind S1. It’s like they created a problem just to sell a solution. This kinda reminds me of another developer 304yo. For some reason this reminds me of a CC glazing how Kuro does not steal money from players like Genshit. Side note: Yes I still play both these games every day.

[@saintontas]

it's frighteningly easy to just jump, grapple, and cast it out of reach of any attack. If you're simply not looking for solutions outside of what you can buy, don't blame the devs.

[@DeJaVu804]

@ grappling does not always get you out of range. Some bosses can still hit you even if they are on the ground. The fact remains that they sold a solution after creating the problem. Don’t make excuses for a company doing these kinds of things.

[@rishuraspencer1262]

You can still play camellya and utilize her damage even if you have skill issue since she will always have a time to do so because of her parry so it's never been a problem to her playstyle, its just that s1 is going to make her more convenient though kuro does indeed wanted to make money off her (after s1 is an insane nuke dps comparable if not higher to s1 jinhsi) as she's also the most anticipated character. Why would you even think that they dont wanna make money lol its just damn simple its common sense. And they're not "stealing money" with their genorosity never ceasing down, so yeh yourstatement is pretty much valid for people who wanna be spoonfed to everything and complains about everything too, spoiled behavior.

[@DeJaVu804]

@@rishuraspencer1262 you are part of the problem when it comes to these issues. It’s people like you that think it’s okay that they make problems with a character only to fix said problem by getting another copy/copies to complete that character kit that should have been there in the first place. Making a character stronger by getting copies sure. But crap like this is scummy business tactics. When I wrote about stealing money it’s in reference to the CC that said that line so it’s not my words.

[@suhooStar]

Me as a f2p loves how I can just become a nuke. Best first limited On my roster

[@perishing]

Tontas is underrated ❤

[@Godsthetics]

Something you said up here 3:45 caught my attention: Her normal attack combo hitting harder than her blossom attack combo has 2 HUGE caveats: 1 - you still need to use the normal skill or you miss that part of the damage in her rotation 2 - You need to hit ALL hits especially the final clunky ground pound (which you did not do TWICE whilst explaining this thus losing damage) and only if you do it right, it will result in exactly 1,6% more damage then her blossom combo. However, not hitting that ground pound at the end, lost you 13,78% damage TWICE compared to her blossom combo. Also her blossom spin does 15,52% more damage then her basic attack 4 spin😅

[@saintontas]

In non double-intro rotations I prioritize casting ephemeral as fast as possible to get as much uptime on Sanhua's buff in actual budding mode. You're theoretically missing the ground slam, yeah, but you're getting more uptime on an outro buff when Camellya's gaining 100% bonuses in budding form, which in my eyes is a fair bit more damage. That fall-off on sanhua's outro always happens if you don't double intro, so every moment you sit on Ephemeral when you could be casting it is a significant DPS loss.

[@PinutsGames]

Ok, I don't have her but to add on from what I noticed in the video, Camellya seems crazy vulnerable in normal state. Because she is mid-air while spinning and only has access to single air dodge. The air dodge window is also shorter(?) than the dodge in vine mode (better timing window and can dodge twice in short time). If I were to use her, I'd probably skip the normal mode unless enemy is broken, or maybe even entirely not considering it.

[@XenoWars]

Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. First off, her normal form spin does more damage than her blossom mode spin. Saying it doesn't when the evidence is in the mulitpliers shows you don't know what you're talking about. Second, you don't need to do the final hit of her basics. The rotation is Crownless > Skill > Jump > Plunge > Basics up to spin > Skill > Jump > (Ephemeral and repeat, or Outro)

[@TheDestinies]

@@PinutsGames She dodge on ground in normal mode if her spin is as high (or slightly higher) as her usual blossom mode elevation, which most of your play time will be. Also, normal spin tracks enemy like crazy that the time you need to dodge, your almost on the ground anyways. Edit: Forgot, both form have access to spin when doing dodge counters but normal mode have higher muliplier

[@PinutsGames]

@@TheDestinies I just tried in her trial. In normal mode, you can spin 2 ways. Heavy attack and spins, or normal attack 3 times then spin (takes longer). Heavy attack will send camellya up in the air, so her dodge will become the more difficult air dodges. Normal attack 1-3 followed by 4(spin) is counted as ground dodge when dodging. But if you use normals all the way, there is only a short window to extend the spin. Hold attack too early and she will use heavy attack and be airborne. Hold attack too slow and she will miss the spin. Basically, hold attack and spin is way easier to execute, but airborne makes you a lot more vulnerable. And tapping normals and holding at correct time makes ground dodge available, but in busy fights while looking for enemy attack cues, holding at wrong timing probably will result in DPS loss.

[@noer6443]

Are you play cacarot in ilusive? I hope you give feedback to make calcarot atk speedbuff on ultimate can be applied for real cacarot 😂 ,why not our Dev listen to player right?

[@sfzndo]

videos like this are making me wondering if I'm making a mistake skipping her lol

[@Alexandr28k]

They were tired of Jinshi being a 6 star and tried to make something else get close to her even if only slightly.

[@XenoWars]

Slightly? They're on the same level, clearing content in the same amount of time. Even Xiangli Yao and Changli clear as fast as them with their optimal teams.

[@EhStinko]

lost my 50/50 to Encore and I already have Yinlin so I guess I'm saving up :/

[@sonnyscrapeofficial]

Bro. I am using Camellya to help my girlfriend change from Genshin to Wuwa, so shuh

[@randomign938]

WuWa just risen my standards for a gacha game and now i cant play any gacha game that is not wuwa

[@faytstrife13]

Camellya be a selfish hypercarry cuz she’d fight anyone taking too long on field, just for fun lmaoo

[@marianbeczkowski4390]

RINASCITA TRAILER

[@Yummers321]

I can't relate. I lost to jianxin for the third time, lost the will to grind tbh, is she good without her sig?

[@orekihoutarou9376]

But seriously tho...im sucks at parrying...but camellya bayblade make it easy cuz her high hit rate...and for KURO to not add elements reaction like in the CBT is the right move....not only you know.....but to make the game revolve around the character rather than game mechanics

[@LizardKingRequiem]

Now if only they could put the damn game on ps5 already 🙃

[@O9RJDOESART]

Less then 20 minutes gang no 12 minutes

[@endcorruption993]

*Than

[@summerpog3870]

How do you keep pushing out videos so fast????

[@Driftwood123-m8w]

Can I stop getting Camellya glaze in my recommended, I already have this waste of space in my inventory. I hate Camellya.

[@arjunsingh8219]

Average Jhinsi player when people stop glazing their main for 1 second:

[@Driftwood123-m8w]

@@arjunsingh8219 I don’t even like Jhinsi that much, I just don’t like Camellya.

[@json4446]

Too good for a 5*? Like there will be a 6* that is supposed to provide more value.

[@TheOriginalGabberjaw]

Mfw Ephemeral gets interrupted 3 times in a row...

[@MRafas-ie9zh]

I know that feeling. Mid floor 2 is savage

[@Mr.Wizwick]

Unfortunately I didn't get her and cant get enough astrite to pull for her. (My pity is so low) 😭

[@Crispymantis123]

Kuro messed up with my wife ❤🎉 Best waifu ❤❤

[@the_maker1841]

I got her on my 3rd 10 pull, not going for her signature so i win in life

[@fctexi_]

Pato 🦆

[@KarthofEarth]

is Camellya a glass cannon? because i probably do suck, but her damage is insane (highest ive ever done) but man she gets hit from everything, and im dying after a bit on the field. Am i just not dodging on time? i think im in the illusion cause shes tethered to the sky that shes immobile?

[@XenoWars]

Dodging while in blossom isn't really any harder than usual. I have a much harder time trying to dodge with Jinshi while she's in the air.

[@PrestusHood]

She is a glass cannon but you can dodge with her in both normal and blossom mode. And she isn't immobile in blossom mode, you can move with dodges and her AA moves her a little towards the targeted enemy per spin

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

You can easily parry with her skill and if you are in a pickle during blossom mode just use jump or skill to attack or plunge Make sure you also dodge too, you may even pair her with Taoqi for skill damage buff and shield

[@XenoWars]

@@imjustlikedenji5954 Taoqi for skill buff? With what skill damage lol. Camellya only does Basic Attack damage except for Liberation. Her best team is Sanhua/Shorekeeper.

[@Gheniel_]

0:45 "the reality couldn't be further from the truth" is kinda confusing phrase. English is not my first language, is this correct?😂😅

[@aannzzuu]

idioms

[@XenoWars]

The phrase means that the outcome is so much different than what was thought to happen.

[@Gheniel_]

@@XenoWars oh okay. Thank you for explaining 👍🏼

[@endcorruption993]

I'm confused about Camellya. Does she want to kill the Rover, wants their affection, wants them to keep her sane, or does she only care about fighting them for fun?

[@Nima-Rg]

Yes

[@uboiyy1031]

LOL ​@@Nima-Rg

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

I like characters who do this, Majima is my GOAT

[@pensil2298]

Im waiting 5star character with gun😊😊

[@Happ1ness]

Hey Saintontas, I think one of my comments got caught in your comment content filters. Could you please let it through?

[@saintontas]

that's youtube, not me

[@Happ1ness]

​@@saintontasisn't there a way to look at hidden/deleted comments in the studio though?

[@agustinralphjovana.5109]

First..in your videos..finally..bro ❤

[@agustinralphjovana.5109]

video

[@Godsthetics]

The truest fan right here. Wholesome ish😊

[@agustinralphjovana.5109]

@@Godsthetics thanks buddy

[@renzturner8821]

And they'll mess up again and again because new units will become even stronger

[@bananamp3]

thank god im too dumb to know how to play camellya so i wont even pull for her

[@soratenshi2847]

sorry but Camellya is the worst 5 star in the game, she barely does any damage and her spin always gets interrupted

[@Theeditor.guy_]

I had the same problem....... after sometime I realised it's my skill issue ❤

[@soratenshi2847]

@@Theeditor.guy_ sounds like a you problem, if it was a skill issue on my end it would exist for all 9 of my other resonates, so yeah definitely a character issue. But thanks for sharing your story brother

[@ExDik1]

Sexy and beautiful design : Yes but not her gameplay boring

[@Gheniel_]

Her gameplay is boring to you? Cus for me it is very fun.

[@PoiColle]

says the guy whos profile pic is on field for 4 seconds.

[@the7blargs]

Well shes got like 2 forms and different combos for each as well as in the air, plus stuff changes in the illusive realm I suppose if you just do the same combo it can get boring but idk its all subjective really

[@GiGo52]

@@PoiColle as a Changli main, the truth hurts

[@MarionFR]

Sexy and beautiful pfp but boring comment

[@fastedwarrior7353]

More like not good enough for a five star!!!!!!!

[@ohreally69]

Jinshi mains calling her a one button character when Jinshi is no different 🤡 the hypocrisy is real