GENSHIN VS WUWA - NEW Player Experience Comparison ! How Many Pulls & 5 Stars In 1 Hour!

[@maxkenhadn]

I wish I could experience the same feeling again when I first played WuWa 😭 I'm so satisfied since Day 1

[@Neutral-q2t]

i only remember Pain to get shafted all the time lmaooo Lingyang follow me to the end (not the character i wanted 😂)

[@Bakemer94]

I only spent a little, and I have every character except for Zhezhi. I have signature weapons for 4 of them. Dupes of Verina, Encore, and Jiyan. And enough materials to upgrade 15 of them to 80 or 90. Kuro is extremely generous, and I'm honestly surprised at how amazing my experience has been since day one.

[@Satriabajakeras]

@@Bakemer94 damn you have a insane luck.. My gacha luck still suck.. It can't move on from hsr.. Need to lose 50/50 first to get limited 5 star

[@zenixvampirchik652]

@@Bakemer94 Tbh, got lucky too. My first really "lucky" gacha. Have all of the 5stars (except encore) 4 signatures as well, two standard 5star weapons and one Jianxin dupe. And have 6 characters maxed out, finally got to work on my jiyan and held back only by weekly boss materials to finish uprgrading his perks. At this point idk if I even need new 5stars anymore. I'm just pulling for the collection, lol

[@Keiki-kun]

Cap

[@whiskeyearned1543]

I watched you record this footage live. What an eye opener. Kuro really knows how to treat new players.

[@zero1872001]

Not just new players. seriously I've played genshin since beginning, love it, but Wuwa is better by far. exploration, free stuff, guaranteed pulls, only 80 for wep period. no 160 possibly. they are sposed to be doing some changes to pulls too. They constantly listen to the players and improve things based on our feedback, No waiting for weeks to max out a char if ya didnt prefarm, cause all mats respawn daily. They gave away multiple free five stars, which are great. they MC is actually truly useful. The echo (artifact) farming is easier. Few more things need added and i think it's perfect. the new train option that genshin added would be great.

[@sparhawk2195]

Most gacha treat new players better. Even among other Hoyo gamnes. Better treatment even in HSR and ZZZ. Genshin just really wants you to suffer for thinking of playing.

[@Noobster474]

You people keep hating on GENSHIN😏😏 but this video just further proved that Genshin has broken the Gacha barrier and became a mainstream game. People play Genshin NOT for the Gacha BUT for the QUALITY and BRAND Hoyoverse from Dawei. While WUWA gives many free stuff, all they did to the game were DEGRADING the VALUE of their 5 stars, make them become trash, zero rarity. 🤣🤣 Hoyoverse KNOWS what people want, especially people with MONEY, WELL-OFF, NOT POOR. They offer the feeling of uniqueness to EVERY characters in Genshin so the rich will buy the prestige, while the poor cried unfair 😭🙏 Just look at Apple and Android. Hoyoverse has already reach a level FAR SURPASSED Kurobots 🗣🔊😏

[@whiskeyearned1543]

@@Noobster474 Genshin is like McDonalds. Thinking everyone who plays it is well off is delusional. Also, nobody is impressed by Apple phones. my ZFold5 costs more and outperforms every iPhone on the market.

[@peacechan4500]

​@@Noobster474 I'm so sorry that the only thing that Hoyoverse is good at is just topping money charts and has 0 impact in the game. If more money revenue equals a better game, Wuwa won't exist because genshin is too good and should be Eos now. And as you can see that isn't the case

[@aoikazuma3781]

i thought the free 10 pulls in your mail (genshin) was a huge deal or some sht, dang didn't know i was only getting crumbs until later on

[@Truxidious]

It was just a bait for new players to keep playing

[@aoikazuma3781]

@@Truxidious yeah fr and those who's new to gacha space

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

it's also very genshin specific, many other gachas are not like this.

[@usonohoshi6165]

We were waiting for that for FOUR YEARS. The funny thing is when Genshin does something, it's mostly new players that get hyped. Older players basically say "well took you long enough, we've been asking for this for YEARS."😅

[@aoikazuma3781]

@@usonohoshi6165 and they say WuWa was not the reason why they give free 5 star outta nowhere, imagine 4 years 4 freaking years bruv, feel sorry for all of you OG players

[@SeerObs]

Quitting genshin feels like finally loving yourself

[@doubleoz1]

Yeah, been free from genshin since ver 2.6/2.7, never feels better

[@nightcoredreamer166]

for real

[@amiruliman1648]

I was around 4 years before nathlan, and before wuwa released. The pain already gone after wuwa came in. I'm glad i able to play wuwa with ease. Mobile player btw.

[@Ace_ui]

True man Genshin should learn something from Wuthering waves aka genshin could never

[@Neutral-q2t]

Peope act here like, they got forced before to play the game lmao

[@hblanche]

I knew that WuWa apologized about the early English dubbing of some characters, such as Yangyang. They promised to do better in the future. What I didn't realize is that they actually went back and fixed it! Amazing.

[@marukundesu3529]

I mean other than WuWa is f2p friendly, their characters are all enjoyable. The game mechanics is not boring. So as each character animation like basic attack alone is entertaining. It’s not stagnant. Genshin characters are repetitive.

[@owarida6241]

Broo I'm enjoying Alto! His kit is literally built for high adrenaline gameplay. Fighting holo tempest with alto is just pure adrenaline!

[@bishamon1075]

Bro, comparing chixia, yangyang, baizhi and yuanwu to amber, kaeya, barbara and lisa is a crime. I clear 30 ToA with the former and they are hundred times more fun to play while the latter is just begging to be sent in nursing home by how scuffed their kit is.

[@usonohoshi6165]

​@@owarida6241and he says "whee~" whenever he jumps. It's honestly the cutest thing in the game, for me. He was the hardest four star to get, but he is definitely worth the wait.

[@Satriabajakeras]

@@owarida6241 damn you are alto enjoyer? It's so rare to see alto player like you to be honest

[@TheZombie2415]

Because you do spam the same moveset in Genshin brainlessly dealing high damage. Meanwhile in Wuwa you either solo or do a full team rotation. With fluids animation with challenge moveset such as evade and parry, the game would be much more lively than Genshin ever be. Meanwhile in genshin similar to HSR, 4* tends to get superseded easily with a better alternative, meanwhile in Wuwa, Kuro respects all their characters regardless of the rarity allowing it to be highly usable if you invest in it. I don't unfortunately don't see the same in both HSR and Wuwa. Only a few of them are actually usable in the latest meta, in HSR it probably requires lots of patience to get full marks for rewards

[@warmpereer65]

You know what makes wuwa also better is the fact a well built mc can be a good character as main dps, sub dps and support. And has different normal attack animation between havoc and spectro.

[@adoyerssanz]

Has self healing on havoc and can heal the team after casting ult when rover use spectro atribute❤

[@zippo718]

Props to Hoyo, they built an Apple-like cult following that will eat up any slop they make (not that everything they make is slop). That is every corporation's dream.

[@ReKonstructor]

Not really though, I got no free pulls in Wuthering Waves, and back when i started genshin, i got like 50-100 free pulls.

[@AsterWi]

@@ReKonstructordaheck, who gifted you 50-100 pulls? thats crazy

[@SabriihLipps]

that chat comment from user "Berthuzada" saying "Genshin will win" at 0:13 I can't imagine how disappointed must be seeing the terrible difference between genshin and wuwa xD But hey, dream is free :v

[@monikaneechan5375]

His name sound just like "Bethesda" no wonder he supports genshin, he likes scamming people with their money too 😂

[@SabriihLipps]

@@monikaneechan5375 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@akariyozuru]

@@monikaneechan5375 bro cooked him so hard damn

[@tuhin1757]

Honestly, let Hoyo milk them. They deserves it for trying to thrash Wuwa ever since it’s announcement and don’t forget about the Hoyoshills part and how they likes to attack anyone who criticizes their favorite game😂

[@Primordial_Dark]

Hoyo Shields ❌ Hoyo Cocks ✅

[@doughnutboi6829]

They went after Tower of Fantasy, and now they’re doing the same to WUWA. I wouldn’t be surprised if they target Azur Promilia when it comes out. 🤣

[@argorr96]

@@doughnutboi6829 Watch, they'll go after NTE too lol

[@yuminanirvalen]

@@argorr96 That would be so damn funny to watch, since NTE literally is completely different the genre.

[@Satriabajakeras]

​@@yuminanirvalen tbh I can't wait to watch them with their stupid argument.. Prepare your popcorn..

[@GeshuLin_WW]

And this is when they are basically catering to new players for months now. Most of the QOLs in 2024 are dedicated to new players, whether it's in-game guides, or updated domains of Mondstadt. But in terms of actual resource provision, GI lacks a lot. I hate the exploration in Genshin so much, literally hours of exploration and not even 100 primos. Meanwhile in wuwa, supply chests give a lot of astrites. Even the most basic chest gives 5 astrites.

[@iforgetiamacat8348]

Yeah, those domains was ultra ass, if you didn't have multiple pyro you're in trouble(and like all newbies I didn't have them for a very long time) . But fun thing they for whatever reason refused to change things in old nations, that they already optimised in the new ones. Like in Monstadt you still must to find clues and shit befor fighting weekly elites for reputation points. 😅

[@GeshuLin_WW]

@@iforgetiamacat8348 true. Genshin devs won't rework on old regions

[@mrwhisa]

​@@GeshuLin_WWyou are wrong because, has new areas to come for Mondstatdt and Liyue

[@Neutral-q2t]

@@mrwhisa He dont speak about the areas i think, more about the Domain stuff and so

[@hxppythxughts7149]

Not to mention the lootbox tool telll exactly where the chests are, by exploring Tethys Deep in wuwa for less than half an hour, I got like 500 astrites

[@g.lretro2903]

'it's been 4 years we still don't have her....' that really hurt....

[@blacklight1429]

BRUH... I just finished the livestream VOD and now there is a 20-25 min version is here buahahahha💀💀💀💀

[@kydro]

Appreciate it tho 🤠

[@Beingbased100]

But but the genshin ReVeNuE says genshin is BeTtEr than wuwa

[@ikalul]

Based Aether pfp?!

[@dislikebutton8979]

Bro lives up to his name 🤣

[@DDemiGodd]

People don't understand that you can still be billion dollar trash. Don't take this as me saying genshin is trash but wuthering Waves genuinely feels better to play even tho it's supposedly making less which says a lot because it shows one company genuinely doesn't care to improve their game cuz they trust people are going to give them money once they keep releasing waifus and feet.

[@GenshinKnight1]

You traitor. I better never see you in any comment section ever again

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

​@@GenshinKnight1 oh no the genshin knights have arrive,

[@botcchidotcchi]

This is also related to the new player experience. In wuwa, new players are able to clear the endgame content much faster compared to genshin. I was able to 30/30 ToA in just 40-ish days or 3 cycles of ToA. That was not my whale account (only spend for subscription) and I'm not beta player

[@mrwhisa]

It was posted on Reddit that a new player with only 3 days got 12 stars in the Spiral Abyss.

[@jwkwkwkwmenenen70]

@@mrwhisa i mean if you speedrun and skip everything and follow what exaclty you need to farm then yes but a casual player will never tryhard like that

[@joemahoma]

​@@mrwhisa but can you do it?

[@tris1591]

i ve been clearing every cycle of ToA since the end of 1.0 F2p account too .

[@mrwhisa]

@@joemahoma i complete every abyss since 1.3 , i am more lore player than endgame player só maybe.

[@khevvillacruz1237]

stingy.....after 4yrs?,this was the top revenue can do to incoming new players?..... uninstall👀🤞😭💸

[@toopided]

dont say that! you're gonna make da wei cry again

[@itsallinthepast2944]

@@toopided dawei on his way on global travelling again to listen to their player after this

[@thouwhobedthyownmother6155]

​@@itsallinthepast2944 apparently global for him is only around mainland 😂

[@zainspierrot7075]

That occurs when exist brainless fanatism

[@Taz-111]

Makes 40 million a month and still stingy, if people cannot see the greed behind this they are mf blind.

[@Stixxy]

It's unreal how different the 2 games truly are.

[@raviolibirb8009]

Wuwa is super beginner friendly ngl. I played this game for about two weeks now and I love how generous the game is. I had to do like 160 pulls for shorekeeper and spent a lot of astrites. I got encore and a lot of yangyang in the process but i eventually got shorekeeper. Then i do a lot of side quests and finding all the chests. I was down from 57 astrites to 6100 just from doing all of that, including daily and the other stuff like trophies, data banks, union lv, the thing where you speak to Magi, etc. I do not regret putting all of my time into this game

[@carlomeris2184]

Ah yes super beginner friendly until you set foot at hologram crownless ahh so easy🙂

[@raviolibirb8009]

@@carlomeris2184 that sounds like a skill issue

[@carlomeris2184]

@@raviolibirb8009 lol hahaha well yep😅 but hey I manged to beat one tho even if it was a hard faught battle wehre only shorekeeper is standing😅

[@Fivestar-lk2zw]

​@@raviolibirb8009 for real

[@Taz-111]

@@carlomeris2184You have to learn their attack pattern like dark soul you’re supposed to die alot while learning and that’s what makes this game so good imo.

[@lnfernoRider]

Kuro feeds my bike more properly than those rewards GI giving to the new players

[@Handarunumaka]

hey bro can you not spamming meteor and floor lava in your hologram?

[@kehan6252]

can you also stop killing me with your bike when you are changing just phases

[@Cath66]

Get down from your bike.. fight like man.. 🤕

[@holrorbi]

Vroom vroom go boom boom 🤣

[@Fivestar-lk2zw]

Lol

[@minime374]

And thats not even counting the 4 star weapons which in the begining is huge not having you didnt get any 4 star weapons in genshij which means you'd have to pull on their scam of a weapon banner to get any

[@d_fnanda]

Being a F2P player in Wuwa it's just so great 😭 In my first week I already had like Encore, Verina and 2 Jianxins. Other games like Cookie Run, Genshin, Obey me, etc etc just have you playing for months until you finally get to see a glimpse of the golden/rainbow light 😭

[@soobinsoobinyouknoww]

same I felt the pain lolll 😭😭😭

[@job-u6927]

Hey man, I will not tolerate Cookie Run slander 😤 Been a fan of the franchise since 2016 and the new player experience is pretty awesome across all 3 main games (Ovenbreak, Kingdom and ToA). What they struggle with tho is mid and late game experience, they suck at it lmao.

[@d_fnanda]

@@job-u6927 Yeah, the mid game of Kingdom to me is very… confusing 😂 Like, the game is pretty fun, but there are so many things happening that my 1 braincell gets confused.

[@MurMur_Khan-7]

SOMEONE WHO KNOWS OBEY ME?!

[@omeganoelf.6173]

In my first week i have all standard with c1 calcharo

[@dficwriter]

Remember there are genshin fans who attack wuwa for being generous and pretend that selector, better rates and free pulls are bad. It takes away from their feeling of achievement!!!! u dont understand how rewarding it feels to farm for hours to get 2 pulls its hard work!!!!

[@dficwriter]

Btw I’m playing WuWa since late July, got Changli with standard 5 star weap, Zhezhi, free Xiangli Yao, Jinshi s0r1 and Shorekeeper s1r1 (she’s my first ever limited 5 star with con) as a light spender. Only missing standard is Encore. Got double 5 star pulling Shorekeeper (Lingyang and then her) + Verina con in next meme 10 pull. Did 30/30 ToA today!! I think it’s my luckiest gacha rn and it honestly feels amazing to be able to play so many limited chars, especially with their weapons. And buyable cons!! I was just sitting on 500+ corals and then decided like fk it, I’ll take s1 just for QoL and on rerun will grab s2. Never could’ve even think about getting cons in genshin.

[@dficwriter]

What I also noticed is how greedy hoyo is when it comes to trial chars. It’s always ONE limited 5 star and all free chars from 1.0. Or basic ones like XQ. While in WuWa you always get to play many different chars.

[@beetwenus4318]

Real stuff i just rejoin wuwa since camelya banner is very much near (ITS BEEN FOREVER WAITING RAHHH) after alot of exploring for almost 2 weeks got 160 pull 👍👍👍👍 game goat

[@lowspender147]

Let's appreciate him for trying to speed run Genshin that has no skip button, at least smash that like button, guys

[@kydro]

Man. Genshin has work to do for new players.

[@cypureisreallybusy]

New players having it tough too Icant 😭🙏

[@Luendrax]

the worst thing is u have to listen to paimon yapp all the time while trying to collect primo for pulls

[@GeshuLin_WW]

​@@Luendrax FR!

[@ScrappyPom]

With all due respect, genshin has been going on for 4 years already. I highly doubt they can do anything at this point. Especially after Natlan.

[@Luendrax]

@@ScrappyPom they can but they don't want to do it. its not a gacha game but take warframe for example they changed first quest with graphical and qol updates and they did it 3 times at least. and hoyo has more money than digital extreme yet still does nothing.

[@dumhoneybun]

It felt so nice getting to pick which standard 5 stars we wanted in Wuwa with the ticket and the targeted convene. After 4 years I was never able to get Mona once. When Genshin gave away a free standard 5 star, i re-downloaded it out of spite just to get her then uninstalled it again haha

[@manih5393]

Same but for Keqing, it wouldn't have cost them anything to just reward a free standard 5star each anniversary. Can't wait for WuWa anniversary, even if they just give us 20 extra pulls it's more than genshin ever did, 30 and they are on par with HSR.

[@Keiki-kun]

A desesperate plead by ww devs thats what that was

[@dumhoneybun]

@@Keiki-kun it worked on me 😂

[@dumhoneybun]

@@manih5393 Yeah! HSR and Wuwa are great :)

[@gautampattnaik7728]

Same thing for dehya

[@old_potato6921]

Wuthering Waves gives you strong 2 strong characters to start with and it's great if you want to save for new upcoming characters. The exploration is just *chef's kiss* great and not locked behind certain limited characters, limited and standard weapon are separate and guaranteed, and the devs is responsive and fixes probpems and bugs as fast as possible. Kuro really do listen and to it's players.

[@kirika119]

I also want to add two things to the WuWa section of the video. 1, if you finish the discount banner you get another beginner banner where you select the 5 star you will pull from the standard banner and 2, the weapon standard banner lets you not only select the weapon you want but also guarantees it in 80 pulls. The player experience in WuWa is actually ridiculously good 😊

[@TakaChan569]

Honestly even ZZZ suffers from Hoyo's greed, idk wuwa has ruined all other gacha games for me since it feels like enjoyment of the game comes first and not how deep a players pockets are.

[@10nessee]

zzz is pretty f2p tho 😂 way more than genshin + the 4 stars r rlly good

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

@@10nessee true, the some genshin four star are just there and forgoten. their animation are just reused and recycled while having the most useless kit, and purpose for any team.

[@hessaa1712]

zzz give free 5 star or someething similar?

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

@@hessaa1712 hsr also had a free five star and genshin just had one after four years 'coincidently' around right after wuwa gave a free five star🤭

[@Suvilehtoo]

Hoyo treats their players like trash

[@samlovespizzas7478]

I bet some ppl will argue but we have free 5 star char in genshin 5.0! Sure but its NOT permanent, what about the new players who join after 5.0 lol since we're talking about new players experience

[@marucic8967]

The 5* voucher isn't permanent either, it expires in 1 year, meaning that in the first anniversary it will be no longer available (unless the devs changed it)

[@samlovespizzas7478]

@@marucic8967 Wait true, ur right (I just checked). I always thought it lasts forever lmao mb, so new players will get one 5 stars char instead of 2 next year unless its changed like u said. Ty for correcting me.

[@nicksm2976]

Genshin got free standard 5* for a patch, WuWa got free limited 5* for a patch, Another W for Kuro🗿

[@Emperor-oh7nb]

Looking at their pgr anniversary... In their anniversaarry, maybe there gonna have another 5 star selecteor​@@marucic8967

[@arkcanon1282]

​@@marucic8967Kuro will just add a new ticket for the WW anniversary including limited characters in it (they did that in P:GR) so the new players experience will be even better after WW first Anniv, for Loyal Old Players tho it's just chef kiss.

[@TheArchemman]

So it's a shocker that even after 4 years, genshins new player experience, hasn't changed.

[@rastez6961]

Outside of music and even there, Kuro is improving rly fast, Wuwa put Genshin in the dumpster in all compartments. It's so hard to play Genshin after you played Wuwa.

[@ashiqprio2485]

I made a genshin account during their 5.0 anniversary. Even if you include the anniversary rewards, the total rewards are still lower than wuwa. Cause you don't get the 20 anniversary pulls immediately, you have login multiple days. If i remember correctly, i got like 5 extra limited pulls plus a standard 5 star cause of the selector. So that's total 15 standard pulls 8 limited pulls 1 5 star character

[@hessaa1712]

they should keep that selector for new player old players don't even need it

[@ashiqprio2485]

@hessaa1712 sadly that selector is gone. But they did say they will give one every anniversary but until they put more characters on the selector, it's pretty much useless for old players

[@tristanlavayna6709]

Same...even when i started genshin on 5.0 i still can't do a thing to most of the events because im underpowered and i only have diluc and aether as my dps also leveling characters and getting artifacts is extremely difficult plus the way that they made specific days for some domains. Unlike wuwa i've never felt underpowered in that game so far so good i can do most events.

[@diesalf]

One thing about wuwa that I love the most is even when I lose the 50/50, it still feels okay. Because just how useful all the other characters are.

[@Winter-star77]

Our mc in wuwa don't use a dull blade

[@MisterHabadu]

Since the game launched 4 yrs ago, they really haven't done anything to revamp or buff the stuffs you can get as a new player. When I went to WuWa on its launch as a Genshin player for 4 years I felt like Genshin was just a bad dream. Kuro Games thrashing out rewards left right and center which made me feel thankful for the first time in a gacha in years. Kuro is so crazy for this.

[@ChaffleWadapon]

I'm honestly surprised that they still haven't made any login bonus for the new players. Not only that, but they can't even claim the login bonus for the new patch, until AR 18 or something, which is just insane.

[@_Lucarius]

Switching from Genshin to WuWa feels like converting your religion. I love it here 🥰

[@ROMVS]

Welcome to the Rebels' side, the Empire has been ruling for 4 years, get used to constant improvements and generosity

[@lezardex6335]

If we play devil advocate, Those Wuwa 20 pull and 5 star ticket will dissapear next year. so new player by then will have less. But even if it's less, it's still more than Genshin in 1 hour because of those first time bonus events. That's kinda crazy. What will it take to get those Genshin players out of their comatose state? Also with time i personally think people will enjoy the first few acts in Wuwa is not as bad as people said.

[@nvmage]

After 1 year anniversary rewards I believe it won't be an issue.

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

i think wuwa is cooking something for their anniversarry, their probobly gonna give another 5 star if they gave a xiangli yao for free imagine what they gonna give😂

[@arkcanon1282]

Nah, Kuro will just add a new ticket that includes limited characters in the WW first anniversary so the new players experience will be even better lol (They did that in P:GR).

[@job-u6927]

​@@ayenmontefalcon6395Someone in the comments said that PGR had a standard 5★ ticket for 1 year too, and once anniversary arrived it was replaced with a new ticket letting you choose from any 5★ including limited charas. Here's to hoping Kuro does the same, but I'm not that worried because they will surely deliver 🙏

[@unixtreme]

As a genshin player who just started playing wuwa the story is much better and moves at a much better pace to be honest. I don't like everything about the game but there are many many things it does a lot better than genshin.

[@cookieman3192]

Even the basic attacks look beautiful in wuwa

[@orekihoutarou9376]

Bro...youhu kit alone have more animation than 80% of genshin character

[@Shhh_94]

Genshin players gonna be mad when they see this lol

[@Sinjade]

If any player cares this much about pixels, of any game, they are fucked up in the head and need to touch grass. This whole Wuwa vs Genshin vs whatever other game is stupid as fuck. Play what you like and move the fuck on.

[@GenshinKnight1]

We aren't mad. In fact, we are just sad that Kuro is going bankrupt and shutting their game down before patch 2.0. We thought we could have other rivals but Kuro isn't built for this😂

[@bruhmemes3668]

​@@GenshinKnight1 Least obvious mad hoyoshill try harder bro

[@Shhh_94]

@GenshinKnight1 Awe someone's salty 🤣 I knew the hoyoshills couldn't resist my comment or the video 🤣

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

​@@GenshinKnight1the cope is crazy. kuro isnt built to rjval genshin bc it has better new player experience. watch 2.0 released l, this will age well😂😂😂😂

[@choochoo3041]

True Bro. Back when I returned to Genshin in v2.6 after a long break, I tryna reroll bcs the old acc was ruined by multiple begjnner mistakes. Bcs the pull economy was stingy af, It took me 18 times of rerolling to get Diluc from Beginner Banners. That was brutal. While in Wuwa, I heckin love Calcharo and they give it to me for Free within 1-2 hrs of playing.

[@Sirr304]

1:44 I always find it funny seeing this big dragon just fly right into the ground😭

[@John-hz8xy]

Sorry but I didn't even watch. Wuwa wins straight up!!

[@kydro]

😂

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

@@John-hz8xy i really wanna say the same but genshin takes lore, world building.

[@John-hz8xy]

@@ayenmontefalcon6395 I tend to agree. Probably why I still play it from time to time.

[@rizi2463]

​@@ayenmontefalcon6395I recommend you to play genshin again and do the beginning archon quest on monstadt, that thing is boring af compared to wuwa story in 1.0

[@rizi2463]

​@@ayenmontefalcon6395I recommend you to play genshin again and do the beginning archon quest on monstadt, that thing is boring af compared to wuwa story in 1.0

[@emmie7007]

Would have been good had bro not spent 30 minutes pulling in wuwa and instead get another 50 free pulls

[@kydro]

🤣

[@ashiqprio2485]

@@emmie7007 yeah he could have done 10 pulls on the limited banner instead of single. But he did also talked a lot while playing genshin so that balances it out

[@yogafajarwicaksono8009]

​@@ashiqprio2485you can't skip genshin cutscene

[@ashiqprio2485]

@@yogafajarwicaksono8009 i am not talking about cutscenes. I meant him talking while not progressing like seeing the mail one by one, spending too much time on summoning, calculating and stuff mid game

[@nicholasmogiba6361]

Just started Genshin 3 days ago and I also see this problem. I'm still struggling to get a single 10 pull.

[@usonohoshi6165]

My friend also tried to start weeks ago. But uninstalled it in JUST a day because she was struggling with controller support. Only later we learned that there was NO controller support on Android (my other friend who recently started a few months ago) plays on their Ipad. Which DOES have controller support. And to add insult to injury, the discovery happened on the update WuWa gave controller support to ALL platforms. 😂

[@MurMur_Khan-7]

AHHH I love you're senti pfp!!

[@random_fujoshii]

Quitting Genshin feels like ending a manipulative relationship

[@navox4658]

More like an abusive relationship

[@v.shortwaver9391]

Manipulative & abusive one at the same time I’d say

[@marcocresencio]

At the end of the day, we are still gamblers. -Wuwa player

[@BriddahOnFire]

15:19 To be fair, Genshin does these daily log-in rewards, too. As events, just like the one you had there in WuWa

[@orochimaruevilbad9989]

It’s been four years of Genshin and the traveler Aether hasn’t gotten his sibling Lumine back fully, Is wild. BRO… 😂😂

[@johncardboard4624]

Maybe by the time Heat death of the universe is close then will have a better new player experience in genshin. By that time Da wei would already cry out a river.

[@imcat1236]

I can't remember how many pulls I got on Day 1, but there is a way to get as many as possible, around 20-30 pulls or maybe 50 maybe too much? to reset your ID to find the character you want.

[@august7027]

After a long time, i returned to genshin. Quited the game after realising how stressful the game is with it's combats. Playing Wuthering Waves after playing genshin for +3 years, it was like i ate nothing but boiled potato then suddenly tasted how sweet fruits & spices foods for the 1st time.

[@Avnich-Rndom]

not surprised looking at hoyo being super stingy, like they even gacha-locked Grapple and wall run 😂

[@LargeBanana]

I want to scream looking at that stamina bar running out when you run around.

[@Mr.MoriartyXIII]

I didn't think it would be that bad another W for kuro

[@brook4904]

I just started a new genshin account where Im only pulling for characters I want with no regard for meta teams. I gotta say, the sentiment that beginners get actual crumbs in the first 10 or so hours is so true. With the amount of quests and cutscenes in the game rn it only adds more time for ppl to grind for primogems which makes the experience for beginners that much worse imo. Not to mention the amount of walls that players face with the adventure level blocking ascension levels for characters which makes it take longer to kill mobs with the 4 starter characters you get. For players that don’t want to waste resources on those 4 beginner characters (or three with the exception of Kaeya being the only real useful investment) it’s absolutely not fun. On top of all that, some players may only get a single 4 star weapon for their free standard 10 pull instead of an actual character which is so diabolical 😭

[@Yewrenegade]

Yang yang in the new player experience got more voicer improvements, that's a nice touch

[@Jakemaconic]

What I feel about playing WuWa is like home. As a person with skill issues the very first release of genshin it was soo hard for me as an f2p, but here in WuWa It feels so easy to do everything.

[@MarcSy]

Im doing my part not giving back to Mihoyo by quitting. I doubt it but I hope the game improves. I'm still not coming back though, seeing the Genshin font is making me angry somehow.

[@ROMVS]

Better to play and not spend, use their resources and give them nothing

[@MarcSy]

@@ROMVS I used to believe this but now I recommend giving your time and stats to a better game or endeavor.

[@malecee]

some things are kinda unfair when comparing cause genshin does have daily log in events at times and also gives a lot of primogems for server downtime after every new patch so i wouldnt count these if wuwa has that in that moment but genshin doesnt at that time but in general, yes genshin is not generous at all compared to wuwa and even other hoyo games

[@yorozuya862]

Proud day 1 wuwa player here. My first gacha game was genshin and I thought it was quite fun but wuwa 4 years later just blew me away. Thinking of quitting genshin for a while now should I?

[@kizuki2650]

Im ar 60 and got c6 ganyu, c3 hutao, c1 zhongli, c3 raiden, they all have signature weapon by saving for 3.5 year and i deleted after the release of wuwa i was also planning of getting a c6 hutao but got bored. The combat is better in wuwa for me.

[@MurMur_Khan-7]

Yeah you're better off doing that, I've played Genshin and when I started I was just confused. The MC never talked, never had a choice in anything, it honestly feel like their a pushover. The game is difficult as well, I just feel like its so difficult to grind as well for a new player. My characters are to weak to get good artifacts, and the artifact system just confused. Of course the whole decision is up to you and every experience is different.

[@toki-9750]

Can't help but love genshin, even though there is barely any resources, its a beautiful game. Wuthering waves does give you more of everything though and the fights are cool and interesting, but it doesn't feel as colourful as genshin to me, it's weird but i like both in their respective way so i cant choose one or the other.

[@suigetsuhozuki6512]

I can see one Genshin bot that has invaded the comment section. To be honest, the story in Genshin Impact feels completely outta place, the only thing I consider as canon from that game is finding the sibling that was separated from the Traveler. But they only mentioned & reminded us fully on the event with Dainsleif about finding the sibling that was separated, and then after that? ~ It was completely forgotten. The recent main storyline for 5.1 feels like a filler patch to me, and I’m not the only one whom thinks that patch is filler patch as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJe8hn2Ipah_oLcsi=INoKoSnwBEwXPfBS

[@LilMissEvee]

Wuwa gives more rewards, yes. Genshin is greedy, yes. But tbh, I play mainly for the story and Wuwa’s storyline is just not that good whereas Genshin’s story has got me hooked big time😅

[@user-og9nl5mt1b]

Damm you are gorgeous tho

[@Sundram.]

Story is the only thing why I stopped playing wuwa.

[@LilMissEvee]

@@Sundram. Same, just hoping the story will get better bc the game has great potential

[@kendiillust9607]

crazy how u need to pull for limited natlan characters to do what any free character in wuwa could (e.g grappling, walking on walls)

[@FBl]

It’s crazy how every single Genshin character is more fun to play than Wuwa characters 😮

[@suigetsuhozuki6512]

⁠@@FBlLol are you kidding me? Some of the Genshin Impact Characters are mid & the five star characters for Natlan are locked behind a paywall gacha system that is totally mega-ass & rigged as hell.

[@snokariwalkure4076]

​Yea, fr any 4* in wuwa can clear most 5* in GI

[@FBl]

@@suigetsuhozuki6512 I have all the Nathan characters and their weapons. Seems like you have skill issues.

[@wiremutopia1450]

@@suigetsuhozuki6512True.

[@justalivingthingsontheearth]

Ngl taking a break from genshin by switching to WuWa? It's literally a game changer- I've been stressing out and countless burns out as I barely enjoyed it anymore than I used to (maybe because there's a lot to catch up and the update is just crazy, I cant even catch a break by it). But, hey we have our own preference ;3 your opinion is opinion as well as mine so no hard feelings here

[@mourningprudence]

"I'm going to skip everything." Oh? You can skip now in genshin?

[@kydro]

No. I just spam spacebar for each Dialoge 😭

[@mourningprudence]

@@kydro 🤣🤣🤣

[@Yupikun5]

I started playing Genshin on the early days when it was hyped, it was my first ever Gacha game experience, it was cool and all 'till a bit late of Inazuma Release, i got a few characters i wanted but it wasnt feeling like a happiness matter anymore, but an obligation, cuz i didn't wanna abandon the account, so i kept playing even if i wasnt really enjoying the game, 'till i eventually quit due to the extreme unluckyness i had with artifacts, farming for months for a specific character and yet not having a good set. A few years later, WuWa released and when i got recommended by my friends, i immediately got interested, so at day 1 i started playing it. I never felt so much happiness by being rewarded by a ton by just simply playing the game. The game mechanics such as parry and dodge gives me such adrenaline for hitting them, the bosses feels actually challenging in most of its patterns, the story felt very confusing at first, but now it's been a lot clear on what is the goal, and it's crazy to say this cuz i was never really interested in story in the game i've played, i just want to have that fun of combat and upgrading, but despite me skipping most of the dialogues, i sometimes stop to read and pay attention! Despite having some trouble with performance since release, which improved a LOT with the 1.4 (still have a bit with my FPS since my pc isnt really good), i'm still here as F2P, at UL71 and still going!

[@aliffekal213]

Hei technically, the main character Rover is also a 5 star right but for the Traveller is he a 5 star? Hmm

[@ashiqprio2485]

@@aliffekal213 4 star with a 5 star skin

[@ROMVS]

good point

[@joshuahall8286]

And only one is good 🤔

[@samlovespizzas7478]

tbf if ur talking about spectro rover, prob a 4 star like traveler. idk if he can speedrun to havoc rover in 1 hour

[@SSABIRR-69]

​@@ashiqprio2485Nah, Traveler is a 3 star character

[@Zer0Hour17]

The literal only improvement to the new player experience is now there are more quests and chests so you don’t get walled for days from continuing the story because of adventurer rank.

[@kizuki2650]

"genshin will win" aged like a fine expired milk.

[@angeldiaz762]

I played Genshin in 2020 but stopped because I got stuck and bored somewhere along the way. I play HSR and WuWa now. I can still view my account in the Hoyolab app, Zhongli was the only 5⭐ I have, and I equipped my strongest sword on Noelle even though she's supposed to be a healer

[@devinroi3886]

When Wuwa impacts more for new players than Genshin does in 2024

[@clingyants]

Kuro games made me spend so much money on WUWA I never thought I would. I just want the studio to live. They care about their players and I support that with as much as I can.

[@wiremutopia1450]

It’s a major L for Genshin Impact. Just watching this video, it doesn’t seem like Genshin Impact hasn’t changed or hasn’t improved on their generosity for the Gacha System. It’s insane to be honest.

[@GenshinKnight1]

Genshin Impact is way higher than Wuwa in the monthly revenue charts and you think you can just call Genshin a major L😂? You fool. Genshin came out years ago and still puts Kuro in the dirt like the little worms they are

[@wiremutopia1450]

@@GenshinKnight1​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠It seems like you live up to your name, I see lol 😂😂 But in all seriousness though… You can’t ignore the very fact that Genshin Impact is a major L that’s been running since four years to no improvement whatsoever in the gacha system. Wuthering Waves on the other hand gives you a five star character at the beginning of the game, and there’s a lot I can mention that is better than Genshin Impact by a mile.

[@orochimaruevilbad9989]

@@wiremutopia1450 Based, I agree. I spend over $1000 on Genshin Impact to get the best five star weapons & best five star characters. Genshin Impact is equal to let’s go gambling. But however in WuWa I only spend $500 to $600 to get the best five star characters & the rewards in WuWa is better than Genshin Impact.

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

​@@GenshinKnight1damn genshin shills ask for competition but when it comes out they just say "genshin is higher in revenue so its better" theres gonna be alot of gacha games gonna cone out lets waut abd see😂

[@kizuki2650]

​@@GenshinKnight1hahahah you just keep spamming genshin revenue in every comments like a bot 😂😂😂

[@zeromailss]

GI new player experience is truly the experience of all time Buy old account with either ton of primo or the Chara you want or don't even bother

[@ardee9337]

I'm just waiting for some coping Genshin players drop a very subjective opinion or personal preference comment like "oh but I like Genshin's this or that more so Genshin is still better 🤓" while we are completely discussing rewards that can't be opinion based as there literal numbers backing it up lmao

[@doubleoz1]

Nahh if all arguments fails they going to pull the "Revenue Sales" Chart number, which is sad

[@ardee9337]

​@@doubleoz1oh yeah I forgot about that one, that's like their ultimate weapon and probably the only thing that Genshin looks better at than WuWa at the surface, but then again that means Love and Deep Space > Genshin as for like 3-4 mos. now it has higher revenue than Genshin lmao

[@aniexch812]

GI 🗿 WUWA 🗿 Those who hates 🤡💯

[@ardee9337]

@@aniexch812 nah... stating facts ain't hating. But hey if branding others as "haters" while just stating facts is the new way to cope then lol ok

[@nicksm2976]

When I made my alt account on WuWa a few months ago, I got Encore (from beginner banner) Verina (from 5* selector) and also Danjin in like 45 minutes of playing lmao.

[@QuincyYhwach.]

Good .. let there be no more new genshit players. It's better for em ☕️

[@GenshinKnight1]

Genshin revenue is way higher than Wuwa. Keep coping that Genshin is "losing players". Money talks buddy

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

​@@GenshinKnight1nah, genshit aint losing its players cause their too busy picking mint and berries😢

[@kizuki2650]

​​@@ayenmontefalcon6395heyy that's there coping mechanism picking mint and berries.😂😂😂

[@QuincyYhwach.]

@@GenshinKnight1 go gather that mint in silence, kid

[@memelordmaster5219]

​@@GenshinKnight1How does building a nuclear power plant will improve Genshin? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sekirothegreatshinobi2332]

Genshin had its Peak during the Pandemic. But, those times are over. And it's another Reason why i'm excited for Wuthering Waves to come on PS5.

[@nickkon8434]

Damn good job Kuro! you clearly are superior! but why is the playerbase and revenue declining so much every month? Doesn't make any sense! By the way there are some gacha games that care even more than WuWa they give away 100+ pulls each month. WuWa should do the same and that way the game will become even better. Because that's the only thing that matters!

[@kishineagle2593]

Salty Hoyo slave detected. It's alright. you can have free stuff, you are not a corpo slave. We will get you out of this. Be brave.

[@nickkon8434]

@@kishineagle2593 You are right I'm suffering teach me how to be superior like you please! By the way when are we going to stop thinking about that garbage Genshit? Otherwise I think we need to start talking about rent.

[@ROMVS]

Simple, they are too generous, last banner was a free 5 star, surprised they even made that much given that there are few people with top of the line phones, most play on PCs, 120 fps is available and soon RTX too, sensor tower is only mobile revenue

[@dayat4102]

XD​@@nickkon8434

[@zerooskil7161]

You have to do 50 pulls to get beginners banner 5 star Genshin actually did change start for new players, i played it on release and they felt they were too generous and actually nerfed the rewards mostly due to account rerollers

[@yuminanirvalen]

GI new player experience is just horrible tbh...

[@Neutral-q2t]

Actually i know somebody that started last year i think. And goes very well with all the 5 Star / Weapons and in general. But still agree need a lot of improvement (also its soooo easy to do actually) and some other things. Only hope that the Dev Team listen 1 Day more... Atleast they doing it better since 5.0 Still cant be Goated like Wuwa, HSR, ZZZ Devs

[@GenshinKnight1]

A lot of people just got to select a free 5-star character. Sorry that you are late to the party. The new Genshin Impact experience is fantastic. Do not speak of GI so lightly. There are levels to the gacha genre and kuro will remain the dirt like the little worms they are

[@yuminanirvalen]

@@GenshinKnight1 A hoyoshill making a laughingstock out of himself with that comment.

[@GenshinKnight1]

@@yuminanirvalen Your favorite game... Withering Wives is not making it to 2.0. In advance I'll wipe your tears when you cry about your favorite game shutting down😂😂😂

[@yuminanirvalen]

@@GenshinKnight1 Sure hoyoshill keep dreaming.

[@connor.chan.jazzman]

Its crazy to think that even without the release and preregistration rewards, new players are still absolutely spoiled in comparison with Genshin. We get better rewards than Genshin's anniversary every patch just for logging in.

[@suilugferenthon6683]

Basically in gen you have to reroll otherwise you stuck with trash beginner characters.

[@reyvaldosoetiman2389]

In wuwa you can get chest easily Like getting a chest in the top of mountain/Tall object with running in the wall While Genshin if you dont have specific characters the slow climb will be torture maybe natlan can give easy exploration but that just exclusive to that region only

[@-Drain]

WuWa made me quit Genshit after 3 years because Kuro made me realize Hoyo treats their players like absolute dogshit. Kuro makes feel valued and respected as their player which I never felt in my 3 years of playing Genshit. And honestly, it fuels my anger and hatred towards Hoyo even more. But it's usually no use convincing Genshit slaves how dogshit the way their devs treat them really is. They're helpless. They'll keep playing like an idiot even though they know they're constantly being shat on by Hoyo. I pity them, honestly.

[@jhomar1464]

yeah, its like a cult that they keep eating anything sh!ts giving by they Beloved and Greatest Devs and they still worship those. Thats why explaining to them is pointless.

[@potatophonegaming9202]

waveplates or resins also. When waveplates maxed out at 240, it will have an additional 480 max unlike genshin which is capped at 200.

[@thetruth3068]

I play both, so idc if Kuro wants to be as generous as they want to compete with Genshin, or if Genshin wants to be more generous to compete with Kuro. It's a win win for me. Also as someone who play both since day 1, I can say that both has their own positive and negative.

[@kuzukuzreia]

I played both games, genshin for years too, but i will always say genshin is sh*t solely due to how bad dev treatment toward outside cn player is, their scam weapon banner (until they fixed it but still bad and took way too long to happen), board and emotionless dialogue, conversation and animation, and the fact that exploring QoL locked behind a character kit. While wuwa never have those problem, so i am genuinely curious of what can you list on both positive and negative side of wuwa, since we can give feedback toward the kuro dev and make them listen and fix it instead just ignoring our cry😄

[@S_P_I_R_I_T.X]

As a proud day 1 wuwa and pgr player am so happy wuwa is growing

[@saffrondig]

genshen could never

[@orekihoutarou9376]

KURO LISTEN 🗿 that phrase alone.....beat all hoyo game

[@orekihoutarou9376]

@skrypnykk.770 cope harder.... maybe hoyo gonna give you 60 primo 🤣🤣

[@orekihoutarou9376]

@@skrypnykk.770 sure kid...... Just don't inject copium into your bloodstream....hoyo already brainwashed you enough 😏🫢

[@orekihoutarou9376]

@@skrypnykk.770 😴😴 go play your static point and click game kid....and don't inject yourself with copium....hoyo brainwashed you enough already 🫢

[@lospollos16]

that is a disgustingly poor comparison if you've already quit Genshin and started playing WuWa or any other gacha game you’ll realize those rewards are just scraps 💀

[@DeepbloodFang]

I got an early Calcharo on my beginner pulls, so I had a lot of pulls left for the 80 beginner pity and got Verina early in like 30 pulls and a Mortefi amongst that 30 as well, and then got Jianxin from the selector and after Verina I had enough standard pulls left hat I went and pulled the 5* Pistols in 3 singles for Mortefi, I also got Jiyan in the first 10 pull on limited, so I was fricking stacked from the very start.

[@devinroi3886]

Genshin is working to retain its current playerbase. The ones who no-lifed it during the covid era

[@usonohoshi6165]

Really? Base on how other feels Genshin is only focusing on new players. Current, and especially old, players feel neglected.

[@fallenqiqi4840]

That's just stupid they still makes ton of ads for inviting news players but doesn't even try to make newbies experience better

[@younge2273]

Yet somehow it gets close to a million downloads a month. Your assumption holds no weight

[@usonohoshi6165]

@@younge2273 Downloads is one thing. Actually KEEPING the players to play for a long time is another. I have a friend that tried to start playing Genshin on her tablet. But we had issues with her controller, so she dropped and uninstalled the game just a day or two from downloading.

[@memelordmaster5219]

@@younge2273 Source of the claim? Also, downloads doesn't necessarily means players. Many of them might play up to a week and then delete

[@Senko1800]

19:55 best part is it's not over , if you look on top of the special banner that's another choice banner except you have to spend in that one , but you can still choose who you get at pity

[@nvmage]

Sorry. I should control myself better. I can't stop. Genshin could never

[@ZaniWuwa]

Do you ever think about... kuro devs play other gacha games, then do the exact opposite of what they experience? I've never played genshin and have a friend who does, and god forbid a day doesn't end without my friend complaining about it... my first gacha was hsr, and I don't even play it as much since wuwa released (best decision I've made so far honestly) currently only saving for sunday... I know gacha games are about money but it shouldn't be the sole purpose... user experience is important, and tbh I wouldn't be having the same fun I'm having with wuwa if I played genshin... WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T RUN ON WALLS?

[@Ace_ui]

I had a friend who never play any gacha game I showed him both genshin and Wuthering waves He choose Wuthering waves over genshin 🗣️ I asked him why? he said fighting looks cool in Wuthering waves also the visuals are better

[@PujaMccyol]

Who asked?

[@Ace_ui]

@PujaMccyol did I mention your name? Why you bothering

[@anjunsharmi8474]

I play both the games, and honestly, i love genshin but its so tiring and the weapon banners wanna make me cry... And the 90 pulls where i lose 50/50 in hard pity, same for weapon banner ... You gotta have atleast 260-300 pulls if you wanna win your fav character with their sig... Then the inazuma tree, sumeru tree, fountain in fontain... Requiring the sigils give so less rewards but requires so much time!!!!! Genshin should really be thinking about this.