Kyle Dubas Shares What He Believes He Did Wrong In Toronto | SDP

Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the comments made by Kyle Dubas in regards to what he did wrong during his tenure as Toronto Maple Leafs GM.
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[@szaggasd]

finally someone admits that Tavares contract was a misdtake, not bc of his play or leadership, but that it made everybody more expensive in the future by providing comparables

[@PunknPixels]

If only the FO took the stance of "He's our captain, he set the ceiling, not your floor" lol

[@dudew00kie]

He was a Unrestricted Free-agent - the others were restricted, coming off their ELC - not comparable at all.

[@blutek8989]

11 mill for 65 pts?

[@j.a.osorio2005]

Once you give 11M AAV to your 3rd best player, you're toast.

[@tomwilson3969]

4th best player makes 11 lol

[@jon8004]

That's not the way to look at it. Perhaps your "3rd best player" is worth that much. Tavares was worth the contract he signed when he signed it. All of those guys are technically worth their contracts. But you can't have four elite players getting paid their full worth. One should be traded. Then they'll be fine. Have three elite players and two good ones.

[@amanasd26]

I would give Marner 11 million any day over giving Knies 4 - 5 million they were discussing for knies.

[@TracerQQ]

​@@amanasd26Knies is benefiting massively from playing on the top line, but paying a power forward 4 mill a year is pretty much ok with a rising cap

[@jon8004]

@@amanasd26 You sign him for $4-5 million now so you don't have to sign him for $6-7 million three years from now. In a cap environment, GMs must make those bets if they want to be successful.

[@Avalanche8181]

He gave everyone championship raises for first round exits.

[@sebastiencarrieres8825]

That's kind of a championship in Toronto, no?

[@wizzerwiser2056]

@@sebastiencarrieres8825 To Leaf fans they won a championship when they signed and then resigned Max Domi.

[@Tickleyourpickle420]

Champions tend not to sign for that kind of money. Just ask Reinhart

[@billk516]

@@sebastiencarrieres8825to many leafs fans, making the playoffs is enough, run it back !!

[@gohabs8918]

Making it to round 2 was their Stanley cup lol!

[@ITDBruins]

The smartest thing the Bruins ever did was sign Pasta for like 6 years at 6.6 a year or something like that. He was on the up, give him an attaboy contract, and then if he keeps it up, pay him the big bucks. which is exactly what they did

[@Isaias-v3x]

The thing is the bruins have a culture and people want to play there so they take discounts pasta should probably make 1-1.5 mill more

[@mrfake675]

Toronto has a culture. Marner paints Tavares nails.

[@ITDBruins]

@@mrfake675 Not sure what that has to do with anything

[@imsocoolitscrazy]

The smartest thing the Bruins ever did was put Pasta in the league in his Draft+1 so his ELC numbers were depressed and he was signing that deal a year younger than both Marner and Nylander. But thinking about it that way would mean Bruins fans would have to stop sucking themselves off about culture when his Cap Hit % ended up being higher than Nylander's

[@ITDBruins]

@@imsocoolitscrazy His cap hit ended up being marginally higher than Nylander as a 60 goal scorer. You paid Nylander 11 after a singular 40-goal season. We paid Pasta 11.25 after three 40-goal seasons, a Rocket Richard trophy, and one of those seasons being a 60 goal campaign. Don't blame us cuz you guys suck with money

[@BillySeiling]

Dubas wanted to be buddies with his employees. Just watch the Amazon doc. He gave away all of his RFA leverage in those negotiations, Tavares had nothing to do with it. If anything getting a free 50 goal scoring, 1C in free agency gives you even more leverage over Matthews and Nylander? “Oh yeah, you’re going to sign an offer sheet? Okay, we have your replacement already signed and we’ll take the four firsts”.

[@baohoaily]

@@BillySeiling I think Marner and Matthews agents aren’t stupid and called their bluff. Life time loser player with worse stats on the decline. Pay us more than him. Leafs said oh right ok daddy.

[@andre97621]

I love zkniex but hes a mid tier prospect snd they wouldnt fven pay Hyman. Stop thr vap

[@KyleMacSkill]

​@@andre97621 lol bruh get auto correct enabled asap 😂

[@antom3117]

@@KyleMacSkill guy was on something for sure with that typing 🤣

[@lastresort3188]

The thing Jessie said at the end is almost exactly what the the guys said for the Leafs contracts and look where that got you. You either go short term(2-3 years) or you go long term(7-8 years). 5 years walks him right to UFA and isn’t long enough to start fully taking advantage of the cap rising and the players contract not

[@LegionOfEclaires]

A bunch of people praised Dubas for being a "players' guy" and there he was shoveling them money like there was no tomorrow. And here we are...

[@HumanAction76]

Players/Teams also have an eye on Sept. 15, 2026 when the CBA expires. There has been talk of changing RFA timing and rules which will impact how long contracts are signed for.

[@mobilepwr2]

Signing Tavares was the dumbest thing he did. Torontos forward core was already full and they badly needed Defenseman yet they signed an old JT at like $11mill. Could've gotten some RHD help like you guys are STILL looking for 😂

[@JohnSmith-jb2jf]

JT was 27 at the time of signing.

[@kevinsargent6282]

I’ve been saying that since the day they signed JT. Sure, he is a talented and fine player, but they didn’t NEED him with the other young stars coming along. In a cap world, it is a delicate balance and that money should have been spent on D or G, or maybe 2x $5.5m middle-6 forwards, etc. Can’t afford to pay someone $11m to play on the 2nd line. And that set the salary scale for the others…

[@filthydegenerate6528]

27 is old?

[@mobilepwr2]

@@filthydegenerate6528 past his prime and that contract only looking worse. $11mil and the guys had like one or two point per game seasons

[@JohnSmith-jb2jf]

@@mobilepwr2 419 points in 440 games as a Leaf. Wow, so far below...

[@imsocoolitscrazy]

UFA status is 27 on June 30th or 7 years of professional service (so, an ELC + 4 years). Byfield's contract buys 1 UFA year

[@biffstrong1079]

Signing Tavares too early when in a year or two a defenseman free agent would have been the move to make. Signing Tavares and then paying Matthews more. Should have used tavares, once you got him, as the top of your pay structure. Could have signed Nylander for 7$ million.

[@baohoaily]

lol, using the worst player of the 4 as the top of your pay structure was never going to work. JT signing for $11m under any circumstance was the biggest mistake.

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

They did sign Nylander for $7m though.

[@biffstrong1079]

@@baohoaily Yes they shouldn't have signed him, but when they did they made him captain , he was a point a game 30+ goal veteran. He was the central player on his team before he came to the Leafs. At the time matthews had a very similar level of production, but ridiculous that you would give a 21 year old more money than the hugely expensive veteran UFA you had just signed. Shouldn't have signed him. Probably should have waited a couple years and tried to sign Pietrangelo. But once you did sign him you don't give the 23 year old more than the guy who has played his whole career to earn this money. Crazy. And here we are.

[@JohnnyBuschi]

too early?

[@baohoaily]

@@biffstrong1079 I think it wasn't impossible for them to try to negotiate with their young guys to take a lot less (Nylander stupidly fell for it, but Marner's and Matthews' agents are much smarter). But the best way to avoid that, don't pay the overrated lifetime loser $11M and make him captain. It sets the table that mediocrity, lack of success, and mumbling hockey cliches after each predictable loss is acceptable. Regardless of that though, JT or not, the collapse against Montreal should have keyed them in that they needed to trade away 2-3 of them. But they never did, so here we are. 4 Softies at over $10M.

[@aikhis]

Paying massive contract 5o players who are only motivated by being paid, and looking good in expensive suit for the arena arrival shot on hnic. When you take away their motivation to win, guess what happens, they don't win. Hopefully the new leafs scout can find talent players that actually want to win a cup, instead of people who only want the most money possible.

[@Lawrence-vi7qk]

Sickening what has been happening.

[@JK_55555]

Everybody and their grandma knew Dubas set the precedent/number too high with Tavares!!!! He had to have known that when he was negotiating the deal didn't he???

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Who the hell kills weeds with a flamethrower? Lol.

[@lessthantom2]

GMs are now signing players like it’s chel be a gm mode. Signing young players with elite potential to longer term deals at lower cap even if they haven’t earned that type of contract.

[@amanasd26]

yeah that's fine, but they are talking about knies like he is just a small step down from that class of player. Knies is not that guy

[@Lee-f9w5v]

He went to work for Shanahan that is what went wrong!

[@robertmarrone791]

Still love the video of steve jumping around like an idiot when they signed tavares....😂

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[@timduhamel5760]

Bruins were invited by Tavares to make an offer. They had the shortest interview. no one knows what really happened behind closed doors, but the folklore is they said “ you’ll be the third best player on our team behind chara and Bergeron”. Seven mill as high as we can go. Meeting over.

[@KenGame-r4w]

In Dubas's own words he said he was not ready to be an NHL GM and he sunk any chance of Matthews hoisting the Cup in Toronto under his leadership. There were a ton of other mistakes Dubas made based on inexperience, wanting to prove he knew better than the rest of the GM's, pride and arrogance. Lou tried to build a winning culture in Toronto but the MLSE and Shanahan was solely focused on making money and they havent changed nor will they. Leafs are a business to them.

[@Rob-vc6xw]

What Dubas did wrong as GM of Toronto, was accept the job of GM of Toronto. Dubas was hired two years before he was 2 years away from being ready for the job. This was obvious at the time, that he was too young and naive and not experienced in dealing managing contracts. And look what happened, he screwed with the leafs with brutal contracts. Dubas should never have been offered the job, should never have accepted it and those are two biggest issues with the Kyle Dubs era. I am still absolutely stunned Dubas got hired as a GM so quickly by another team. As these guys say, the whole league looked at the way Dubas screwed the Leafs and said, we will not be doing that here. And then what do the pens do, hire him to run their team into the ground. Why would you sign the GM the entire hockey world has been critical off, who managed a team everyone laughs at for always under performing in the playoffs. So can someone please explain it to me, what is good about Kyle Dubas, what has he done to impress these NHL owners, to the point they ignore his resume and just hope it all works out ?

[@BillyBob-pu2vc]

EVERYTHING

[@amanasd26]

why would you pay anything more for knies then you did for domi right now?

[@FMichael1970]

I said several years ago… Dubas gave the Tronna Pretty Boy Trio blank cheques.

[@willsk7068]

Dubas said he believed the teams pay structure should be like NBA teams. Everything on the stars.

[@jsquared1013]

Won't work in the NHL, because in the NBA the 2nd-stringers spend most of their time on the bench and are much less critical to the outcome of the games. In hockey, you need to be able to roll all four lines to go deep in the playoffs, so you have to invest further down the roster.

[@Devesci]

I think Knies plays a similar style to Al Secord. He should be paid similarly.

[@JLineUp]

Knies: Give me my money or I’ll sign with the Oilers next season.

[@amanasd26]

RFA

[@JLineUp]

@@amanasd26 there’s always a way

[@robrick9361]

Kyle was the best GM the Maple Memes ever had.

[@gohabs8918]

I’m so happy about the team he built. They’re awful

[@user-ji3il6ce2o]

@@gohabs8918 Enjoy finishing last in the division Toilet Seat fan 😂😂😂

[@gohabs8918]

@@user-ji3il6ce2o haha, nah :) 1967

[@davidwilson9976]

The Leaf's can't overpay everyone.

[@hillfortherstudios2757]

Is that a dare?

[@jon8004]

They didn't overpay any of them. The Leafs' problem was that their young, elite players were top-shelf material from day one. They had no Quinton Byfields or Jack Hugheses -- guys who took years to develop. Guys who you could overpay for during their first contract in the hope the you'd spend less in the long run. Matthews, Marner and Nylander, by the end of their rookie contracts, were elite. You weren't going to be able to "bet" on any of them. You were going to pay them what they were worth or they were gone.

[@jacobboaden2213]

He’s right. That Tavares country fucked em immediately. 11 m for a guy who’s never cracked 90 points? Back in 2018? Trash

[@kaylporter276]

John made no sense.

[@jerrydaniel8674]

I said that immediately when the word of Tavares broke out. It was idiotic not to sign the big 3 first as all 3 seen the $$$ the org would dish out. Was a dumb but huge mistake that set the team way back!!!

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Anything over 4 mil AAV for Knies before he has proven anything is bonkers. 36 pts in 83 games isn't worth 5.0+, neither does 7 pts in 14 playoff games. If he does 50+ pts next season, the discussion changes. The solution for the Leafs isn’t to imitate the Ottawa Senators, Buffalo Sabres and Montreal Canadiens of this world.

[@jerryrikki9466]

You'll sign him to 7 million next year and like it lol the Toronto way

[@bairdalford2341]

Why doesn’t the league even the playing field for the cap by taking state and provincial tax rates into consideration?

[@sojiroseta98]

Leafers comparing Byfield to Knives like their potential is the same is craaaaaazy even for sdp....im jus sayin

[@rickmather7062]

He couldve signed Marner for closer to 6M if done before the season.

[@AlfredMajor-f2p]

Good contact good player😊

[@martinmcneill3349]

kd was following bs' instructions, no?

[@amanasd26]

so they have been harping on paying Marner too much money and now want to pay Knies too much money? Dude is a 2nd rounder who puts up 35 points after one season. If that long term contract isn't cheap why bother locking yourself into it? he's not a star player, doesn't have the pedigree, don't give him the star treatment. They are not even considering the possibility of regression for the player.

[@LotusEatersPod]

The level of hockey content online is trash. How would it count as a win-win if the second possibility is that you paid him for 6 years and he didnt live up to the contract? The doesn't register as a win in my book just because you can let him leave in free agency.

[@amanasd26]

yeah its dumb, they are talking themselves into paying knies between 4-6 million per. knies doesn't deserve more money then domi at this point

[@joshb6470]

when the shanniplan is to develop from within and you get this guy, the equivalent of an excel sheet written in google sheets trading away draft picks making sure the cupboards stay bare, giving away terrible contracts.... you're in trouble

[@ZacStJean]

We've been screaming this stuff since day 1 haha You can't pay four guys that much money. Dubas let them walk all over him in every contract.

[@davidmollenhauer7580]

Silly ending!!

[@blazed99]

I like jt ....but he's got to go for the leafs...someone has to, getting rid of Marner, Nylander or even Matthews shouldn't be a conversation but jt is in his down years....he's the contract you need to dump...at least I think so...but I'm FN nobody😂

[@justinrogers1807]

Unless your Mathews Leon or McDavid 10+ million contracts should be 2 years or less

[@15CNickelson]

Knies should be at 4aav he hasn’t proven enough and shouldn’t be close to byfield

[@XB0XM4N420]

Steve stop putting those bad ideas into the ether lol

[@AlwayzFresh]

They decide to pay John Tavares more than everyone because he was a legend, then decide to pay the others more than Tavares because they were the future. Failures all around with zero plans in place. This all leads to a soft rebuild without 4 x $10million+ players. Knies is not a top six player, most likely never will be. He's a great bottom six grinder, that is his ceiling. Would never pay him more than 2.5-3 million, or let him walk. Out of your GD mind to even think about paying a regular player based on what they might accomplish some day in the future. That is how you tank a franchise. You get 1 or 2 of those wrong and you're done for the next 8 years.

[@Goldy02]

Didn’t San Jose offer JT 13?

[@astrobot3038]

I like Tavares, but “legend”? C’mon now.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

@@Goldy02 Fire Doug Wilson.

[@astrobot3038]

I don’t for a second believe Dubas was making these decisions on his own. Probably why he wanted to be GM _and_ president in Pittsburgh.

[@andrewwilkins3014]

And that is going so well thus far

[@RobotWillie]

All that means is he should have had bigger balls to speak out when he disagreed with something which still means he failed at being good at his job.

[@NOSSCARSeriesRacing]

Matthew Knies is a really good player but his extension should be around $2M to $3.5M AAV. He hasn't done enough yet to ask for any more than that. How does McMann get $1.35M and Knies asks for $4.5M? Knies is not THAT much better than McMann. He just isn't.

[@gerardweir]

Did Kyle forget that Himan scored 50 and walked for nothing? Kadri is elite still and Kerfoot is where? First round picks given away with bows wrapped around them for who? I don’t see them now. Dubas pissed away the greatest opportunity in leafs modern history. JTS contract for the caliber of player he signed at the time was a great decision. JT didn’t add the value but that’s how it goes. Dubas was the biggest mistake in the last 10 years period! Go leafs go! 👊👊👊

[@Newbobdole]

Ah yes, because no one learned anything/discusses the Parise & Suter albatross deals in Minnesota from like a decade earlier

[@AlfredMajor-f2p]

Duba could saving money team draft picks too make team better win championship team to win team better off

[@justinrogers1807]

McDavid should make 14-15 million next contract BUT not for a max 8 years!!!! 4 at max!!!!

[@Unholy_Louie]

What an absolute fraud man. Can't believed he fooled an entire fanbase to somehow believe he was some kind of genius, while giving the worst contracts possible. And OMG ALL with FULL NTCs!! HOW??? FFS! It's INSANE. It will bite the team in the butt even worse when they will be unable to trade their best assets (it's starting RIGHT NOW with the Marner issue; even if he accepts to be traded, you negotiate from a weak position with that full NTC; at best you'll get something useful in return, not anything nearly equivalent). Worst, you can lose them for NOTHING if they let their contract end and just sign elsewhere. The prospect pool is horrible, so trading stars before the end of their contract for picks and young upcoming players for the future is the way to go, but Dubas removed all leeway the team would normally have.

[@bobp363]

The salary cap in the NHL is going to $ 88 Million next season while the NBA's soft cap will allow you to go to $ 175 million next year with no penalty's .The NHL has a TV contract that maxes out at under 1 Billion per year .The NBA just announced a new contract for over 80 billion with incentives included over 11 years .The NHL's attendance was 57 million and the NBA's was 55 million .NHL TV ratings were up 185 % in the 18-49 demographic and more then 20 % overall again ..The NBA averages 3 times as many viewers globally then the NHL . Why is Gary Bettman still the commissioner if the NBA is being paid more then 8 times as much per year then the NHL and is only outdrawing it by 3-1 in total viewers globally ? ...whoever is negotiating their media deals should be fired along with Bettman and if the NHL had a comparable contract for the amount of viewers it now has the salary cap would be over $ 150 million dollars and teams would not have to be pinching penny's every year while trying to remain competitive .It would benefit Canadian teams even more being that many more players would stay north and pay the extra taxes if they made a few more million per season . Im not from Canada but it is crystal clear to me that the commissioner has spent 90 % of his energy the last 30 years concentrating on what happens in the south and southwest here and taken Canadians for granted ..The numbers dont add up and the NHL is either being grossly incompetent across the board or are totally corrupt .Its probably a little of both but something needs to change .and dont even get me started on how it costs 40 to 50 bucks for a beer and a sandwich when your salary cap is abysmally low ..

[@blazed99]

It's cause hockey in USA doesn't sell like baseball, football or basketball...that's why....it's not built enough for those type of deals...fans in USA watched more and they had more fans...it would...that's why..

[@EnglishFuture-xg1gw]

Mistakes Tavares on too much money/ wrong player-position Nylander not sat. have to make a stand. Kadri traded for Kerfoot Durzi + 1st + grunstrum for Muzzin 1st for Marleau (didn't have to if you haven't signed JT) Letting Mcheleinny go for Sparks: a dud. Moore (34 goals this year) for Campbell: a dud Samsonov: wash castoff : failure Murray played 20 games no bridge deals for the three kids first for Nick Foligno first for ROR let Hyman go Marchment for protecting Holl over Jared Mcann teasing conor brown away: he just killed it on the pk for edm right through the run signing keefe signing mrazej then giving away a first to get rid of him reilly contract is too long and too much money first for mcabe? marginal Gio was a VERY good trade for two thirds Kapanen for a first Team was always too soft and he didn't rectify that until his last throw off the dice. He failed to make smart bold moves when we lost to MTL.

[@oldhab7890]

Any contract with a NMC is a bad contract

[@BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather]

If he wasn’t 100% focused/prioritizing on his top players/contracts, wtf was he focused on? As I always thought, too immature for the job. Should have been shitcanned years earlier. Getting the high draft picks was a bandaid over his poor performance. He wouldn’t have gotten away with it anywhere else. Good luck, Pitt lol

[@yaboyCombo]

The Tavares contract impacting the other contracts is such a garbage argument lol. Tavares was a UFA and the Leafs were in a bidding war for his services. MM&N were RFAs who had no rights and nobody else negotiating with them other than a team prepared to sign an offer sheet which never happened. Leafs had all the leverage and they blew it.

[@andrewfulan796]

The Leafs should've dropped out of the bidding war. Signing him for $11M set the franchise up for failure. They would've been so much better off using that money on their defense rather than another forward.

[@jason893]

@@andrewfulan796 They could have kept Kadri at a discount as their 2nd center.

[@yaboyCombo]

@@andrewfulan796 I agree but my point still stands

[@yaboyCombo]

@@jason893 could have kept Kadri anyway

[@jerryrikki9466]

Kyle Dubas completely screwed up this organization

[@astrobot3038]

*Shanahan

[@robquasi6153]

Fire shanny and Brad immediately for the love of hockey

[@ghoward6705]

We talk about “The Core Four.” How about that Reilly contract? He looked like dogshit in the last series. He single-handedly lost that last game for The Leafs. He looked like a beer league 2P d-man.

[@Sam-z1t6p]

John was overpaid when he signed competing with 13 million offer wasn't an elite player only good player leafs should've refuse to sign like they did to other playeds like an auction highest bid wins and you get an overpaid player not worth the money because he isn't an elite player especially now top 200 player😢

[@marcpoitras1785]

The biggest mistake Dubas made was hiring an AHL coach to coach 4 superstars.

[@joer8854]

No, it wasn't. We haven't had a proper defensive lineup for decades.

[@marcpoitras1785]

@@joer8854 or maybe with did but they were just doing what the coach told them to do. Whatever you do boys, I don’t care if there’s 3 guys in you, you try to control that puck and make a pass. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT chip it out of the zone.

[@Goldy02]

@@joer8854the last two seasons haven’t been the defence, when you haven’t scored 4+ goals in their last 13 games, the narrative is very different from 2021 to now

[@a_coleman11]

no it wasn't. the problem was AND still is the lack of stable goaltending and defensive depth. Keefe was a solid coach but look at the teams Toronto lost to in this window: president's trophy winning caps, cup finalist bruins, bolts, habs and panthers. that being said, the Babcock experiment was decent(ish) but its also clear these contracts are holding them hostage similar to how the Parise and Suter contracts held the Wild hostage.

[@marcpoitras1785]

@@a_coleman11 you forgot Columbus. Both Columbus and Montreal were awful and should have been easy wins. Toronto was favoured to win against Florida but lost. Tampa bay was about equal to Toronto but Keefe lost that one too.

[@Anticipat0r]

petterson making 11.6 doofus

[@bofadeese2715]

Petey is making north of 11 guys

[@devackroyd]

They also ignore that it was the McDavid and Draisaitl contracts that truly started the modern age of "betting on potential" deals for young players, not the Marner/Matthews deals. The Draisaitl deal in particular was heavily criticised when signed because of the management strategy of not betting on youth that wasn't truly generational like McDavid, Crosby and Ovechkin. I like the sdpn crew, but they continue to ignore context in many of their discussions surrounding the league.

[@Acrr01]

Not one of the huge contracts to the young guys had been lived up to. Matthews Marner and Nylander should not have made more than 16 million combined. Contracts are lived up to by playoff success. Mathews scoring 69 goals in the regular season means nothing when he only scored 1 in the playoffs. Yes, he's the best goalscorer in the league right now, but not in the playoffs. Marner has been non existent in the playoffs, while att least Nylander has produced a little bit. The bar is so low for playoff success that we say Nylander is doing good in them. None of these 3 guys have succeeded in living up to their fat contracts. That they didn't earn. They were given. Dubas was the mastermind behind this travesty, and now we all see how he's royally screwing Pittsburgh. Currently imo this is a batch of talented players that has been wasted so far. Can they win next year and prove me wrong, ya ofc. But we've been saying that every year. Till it happens, this is a failure of a team, organization, and fanbase.

[@AlfredMajor-f2p]

When give big money too player has score 50goals at all others player

[@gohabs8918]

Everything lol. When Montreal has more playoff success in the last decade than Toronto who has 4 10 million dollar players something is wrong lol!

[@wbj2000]

Leafs Cap management is the worst in the league, thanks to Dubas.

[@dryferr5557]

Leafs forever broken and bitter Since It Was 3-1

[@chad_b]

He paid players before they earned it

[@biffstrong1079]

Knies??? How much are you going to pay him? Well what if he produces 30-50 points for the next six years. Are you paying him 5$ million? That is too much. He doesn't have the offensive upside of Michael Bunting. Maybe 3.5 million.

[@juhomantynen4638]

For what he's produced he's worth 2mil TOPS. Other teams (i.e. good teams) pay players for what they've done, not on pure potential alone.

[@schustererik83]

everything and nothing?

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

You don't build a Stanley Cup team with four all-star forward contracts, you can afford three max. Look at the formulas for the championship-era Blackhawks and Penguins, it's not rocket science.

[@murray1978]

Dpm't forget LA.

[@Sam-z1t6p]

Johnny t too much money too soon the nhl cap not high enough too support that kind of money dubas took a chance on john and failed cap nhl was flat leafs are now catching up signing good defense men as cap increase.

[@geebster.]

Quinn Hughes making 7.8 and not even being in the top 15 defenseman cap hits is crazy. Honestly only happened becauase the team had no money.

[@myeyezzzzzz]

Steve, stop ummmmmm-ing, god. "interesting smart info x-thing, ummmmmmm" GOD

[@CupContender]

Knie 35 mil for 8

[@bronzesnake7004]

Actually, his biggest mistake was believing he was a legitimate NHL GM!! Not only did he screw the Leafs so badly that the damage echo will reverberate for years, but he kept losing picks and prospects for players he A) hoped would push the core four over the finish line B) Knew he could not resign!! He just kept running it forward until there was nothing left to give away and he also knew if he had taken the inexplicably ridiculous extension Shanahan somehow talked the ownership into, he would be exposed as the incompetent nincompoop he is, because there was nothing left to use as trade bait or money to acquire quality rentals!! Tell me Dubas, Grand Poobah, what does "nothing from nothing" leave? Worst NHL GM in the game's history! Jack ~'()'~

[@joshuastowe8895]

UFA 27 yrs old

[@jeremycomfort809]

Maple leafs suck my guy, no matter how hard you try to figure it out, they will disapoint you like a cheating girlfriend. Truth hurts

[@joer8854]

The response of a child.

[@AlfredMajor-f2p]

Good contact good player😊