8 BRUTAL days thru-hiking the Adirondack's Northville Placid Trail

We ripped the Adirondack's Northville Placid Trail... and then it ripped us.
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[@chrishanssen1980]

There are enough insta hiking videos of people true hiking whilst stacking rocks, listening to indie rock free sample music, eating local organic pulses and wearing nothing but an ethically sourced Cuban fibre onesie. I like your hiking. Makes me feel better that the rain sucks! Makes me laugh at the unbridled joy of finding a bench Or finally feeling the sun. Dude you did a cool thing. Beat a demon and won. Great job!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you!!

[@jordanPRS89]

Asking for a friend, where would one find such a DCF onesie...

[@Positive_Vibes_Ali]

You articulated the video in just a few words WAAAAAAY better than I did with my ramblings. Awesome!

[@gentryaustin]

Shout out to the real MVPs--those Frogg Toggs. Putting in WORK!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

They saw a lot of miles on this hike

[@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling]

I like the way you keep it real and say it how it is, those happy clappy hikers that are all smiles all the time when you know they are bitching off camera. Love the Channel, keep it up!!! And the 'wherever you are' bit, I'm in England 🇬🇧. Not that it matters 😆

[@paulhendershott667]

Thru-hiked the trail back in 1980 and it was challenging! I had hiked the entire AT between 1974-1978 in a series of hikes with the Boy Scouts, then Explorers, then buddies, and then finished up the missed sections alone. Loved the NPT so much I went back and bought 19 acres on the Boquet River. I sold it eventually to a lumber mill as I had to move my business out to the Midwest. I did do a lot of camping in the pines by the river there and caught a ton of trout over the years before I moved.

[@michellebennett629]

We did this trail sept 2020 and you are not kidding... wet!! We are starting the Tahoe Rim Trail next week, looking forward to the dry rocky terrain. We have to carry more weight in water, however, so that is the trade. Thanks for the flashback before starting something new to us!

[@gailwind4168]

The best video so far. Beautiful. Shout out to Flossy for being such a great hiking partner.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Flossy is awesome!

[@chrisr2925]

I guess you could say his first attempt at Placid was a flaccid. Great video by the way. The thing I appreciate most about your channel is authenticity.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Hahaha thats funny and true

[@chrisakins2830]

Man that has to be the most authentic hiking video I've seen in forever. I think it may be my favorite. Great job.🙂

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks so much Chris!

[@michelepurington3227]

Been binge watching your videos as I get psyched up for the LT next month. Will be my 2nd time through. Love your content brother!

[@amandaburt1553]

You guys are awesome! I live in CNY and I just learned about the trail. Excited to learn more.

[@chrismetcalf1261]

I'm proud of you guys. It was nice to see a real video. The ups and downs, the physical issues and mental issues. Showing that not all hikes are without problems and fabulous weather. Personally I love seeing the mountains and rivers/waterfalls here in Alberta Canada but the NPT would be a decent trip. Glad you toughed it out.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Chris!

[@NickEDowning]

I am so happy that you finally completed the Northville Placid Trail. I love the fail story you told on Trail Tales and I am considering this a happy ending to that story. And by happy, I am ignoring the awful weather you had to endure. You guys rock. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@thomasvanetten1984]

I finally was able to comment on this video (I watched weeks ago), I enjoyed seeing this! I thru-hiked the NPT back in summer of 2012. Sorry to see the store in Piseco was closed, it was a nice treat on my thru-hike. The NPT was the only trail on which I have experienced trail magic, ac up of soda while staying in a shelter on Long Lake recuperating from a cold, rainy day (sound familiar?). Thanks for bringing back good memories!

[@Hiker_Strider]

This trail is definitely on my short list of shorter thruhiking trails. Awesome job!

[@johnmbrown6627]

Thank you for sharing this video. Its a hike I always wanted to do,but do to recent physical issues, i wont be able to. Thank you again.,keep up the good work. JB

[@stephenselinger5541]

Thank you for the shout out to “other places in the world.” I feel seen.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

You got noticed!

[@ericawashkwich8022]

Dude, my favorite video you made so far! My boyfriend and I really enjoyed this one after listening to Trail Tales on the way home from today's day hike. Can't wait to see what trail you crush next👊

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks so much! Glad you two enjoyed it!

[@vepmoon96]

Gotta love the music choices and editing!! Killing it!

[@janefromtennessee]

Thank you. Enjoy all your videos.

[@Positive_Vibes_Ali]

You’re both adorable and being new to your channel I occasionally watch one of your older ones. I’ve not seen one of your “hiking” ones. It’s fascinating to watch your transformation from day one and on through the hike. I didn’t get the “through hiker” and you’ve helped me understand it’s just your “challenge”, your “beautiful nemesis”, your “spiritual journey”. I used to be a trail runner and long distance runner which lots of folks - other than us runners - just didn’t understand. Btw….you’re super goofy adorable and I love seeing you act like boys playing but obviously your challenging days you faced like men. That’s a beautiful combination for any male in my opinion. Hell….for ANYONE not just men. My apology for stupid thing to say 😂 I watched a video a day or two ago of yours Kyle on yellow blazing and didn’t feel like I should have an opinion since I’m a day hiker BUT…..I liken it to my marathon running days. If you cut through a short cut or grabbed a cab for part of the run and then ran across the finish line like a winner??? Well……not cool. Just own that you couldn’t quite do the whole thing. No judgement there…the judgement I feel is in the charade you just put on. Be real and as flossy says….don’t be a bitch 🙌😂❤

[@Jstolenn]

Glad to see you complete the trail Kyle. Can’t wait to hear about it on trailtales

[@KyleHatesHiking]

The episode is out now!

[@janetdavis4724]

, I live. Near Northville N Y. Beautiful in the Fall. Hope you both had a. Great time when you were here.. I enjoyed the video.

[@hikingwithaaron]

Loving the quality of that camera. Glad you put it away during the rain. You trip videos are getting better and better. Keep up the good work.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you so much!

[@tosd.outdoors]

Dang dude, Huge kudos to you guys. That looked rough, but glad to see you didn’t give up. Thanks for making the video throughout the way. I’m Motived.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Get after it!! Thanks for watching

[@backroadmax2344]

Nice to see good ol’ Northville!

[@SalParadise3868]

“At least they’re a little bit lighter now”. Strong! Smooth edit and great style.

[@jermc68]

Love me some Fiddlehead. I thoroughly enjoy watching your vids and listening to the podcast. Keep it up, man!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you! Fiddlehead rules!

[@capsoutdoors]

I know that property you stayed on in Piseco, have hiked past it many times over the years. Those are 2 great guys that own it!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Yes! They were so helpful for us. Im going to share this video with them

[@FoShoDawg1]

Sadly missed the premiere, but glad I get to watch it now. Becoming a b ig fan of the podcast and your videos. Keep it up!!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Jesse!

[@Positive_Vibes_Ali]

I thought the fact that you f&cking persevered and finished was PLENTY inspiring. To feel exhausted, defeated, and DONE emotionally physically and spiritually IS an inspiring message. That’s real life guys….thank you for sharing the blood sweat and cold rain with those of us watching from a warm spot at work 😂🙌❤ I got a real sense this time of your hiking agonies and epic wins. There’s also a new respect for what you have to do to video your journey, then edit it for your audience. VERY good! I’m gonna keep on keeping on…like Kyle and Flossy. Btw….what’s the story behind Flossy’s trail name? I’m curious how people come up with their trail names. Do you have one Kyle? Perhaps I missed that info from another video?

[@thinnestcoffee5]

Awesome style of video and kick ass music to go along with it!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Christopher!

[@BohemianAdventurers]

You SHOWED your humble Kyle. Nice vid.

[@arboral]

You brought back all the memories of the NPT! The tales I could tell! The constant rain, those fucking beavers flooding out the trail. You were lucky that you stayed overnight at Carry Leanto in September. When I stayed there it was mosquito infested swamp. Caught West Nile virus from that experience. Good times. Thanks for showing that a long trail is not always glorious but worth persevering.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Yikes that sounds tough. Thanks for watching

[@Jarhead56]

Kyle, great video, good hiking pal, impressive effort. Happy that you knocked that out in 2020, what would you expect for a hike in 2020, no bed of roses this year!!!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Haha you got that right. Thank you

[@jordanPRS89]

Fun to watch, thanks for posting, I enjoyed it a lot!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you!!

[@mtadams2009]

Thanks for sharing. I am always looking for new places to hike and this looks beautiful. It seems because it does not have a lot of peaks the trail traffic is on the lower side. I hike with a dog and she prefers no people. Take care

[@JayMorrisonOutdoors]

I'm glad you got a chance at redemption -- even though you were cold, wet and miserable. The NPT is a great trail, but I think it is always underestimated (I know I did, for sure). I'm always impressed with folks who can bang out 140 miles in like 8 or 9 days ... you guys are animals!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

It was tough for sure. The NPT is brutal!!

[@dougbeger4258]

My back was terribly sore. I called War Bonnet and they were very accommodating in getting me set up with hammock -highly recommend them. Superb service!

[@KirstenBayes]

Really appreciated it, great trip video, sorry you didn't catch a break with the weather. As the end of the video approached I was like, "There's no way I'd have any wise reflections at that point. I'd be ****ing done." And it seems you were too!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Haha yup exactly. Thanks for watching!

[@PapajosTraders]

Sorry you had to rush that last leg. We just that section last month and it was AWESOME! Camped and swam At Wanika and Miller's Falls and even got rain when we made it to Long Lake but that was alright too.

[@Stephi12Anderson]

This is def my next trail. Thx. 😅

[@NeemorsWorld]

Great video! Looks like an awesome trail to hit up at peak fall.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks man. Means a lot coming from you!

[@DanielleRootes]

You guys had some bad rain. I must have been really lucky with my trip. Only rained at night! Congratulations on the finish!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you! At least we didn't have bugs on our hike

[@AustinCS]

Hey Kyle! We (the lady and I) came out to the Adirondacks this week for the fall foliage and are curious to see if have any must do suggestions that are doable within a week’s time. We are looking for longer day hikes and good views. Hope you see this and can get back to me soon! It’s raining today so we are taking advantage and coming up with a loose plan.

[@katievills]

Gotta love Arc’teryx thumb Look™! (We also rock that on hikes too...) But for real, loved everything about the whole format of the video! Best one yet for sure. Definitely looking forward to more of the hikes that you hate!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you so much! Such a kind compliment

[@js4513]

Love the video and picked up the subtle shade thrown out.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

What shade? Lol

[@drewwaldron5687]

So sick dude, love these trip videos. Makes me want to get back to this trail more next year!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Get out there!

[@twhiz5611]

For a flat trail It is definitely challenging. Was up in the 100 mile wilderness this past week and did 6 days of that, Cold temps, rain and mud were a challenge but came through. Did the NPT last year and the mud and blowdown was hard but the lakes were amazing. Nice video.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Its a very tough trail for how flat it is. Thanks for watching!

[@05chmps]

Really fun vid. If you HAD to hike this or a similar trail in the future and you knew it was going to be cold and rainy, what would you do differently?

[@briancook3187]

The oxbow inn restaurant is .2 miles from the old store in Piesco. Awesome food there. Love the dilly dilly pizza. Sorry if someone already mentioned this....

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Yeah it was closed on the day we went through unfortunately

[@briancook3187]

@@KyleHatesHiking awesome video thanks for sharing

[@markrebeor1000]

Kyle thanks for the NPT memories, hiked the 36 mile section with my 10 yr old son from Lake Placid to Long Lake. He’s 21 now and loves hiking! You guys had tough weather, but that part of the Adirondacks is one of the most remote, beautiful forests around.A solo female hiker was followed and bluff charged by a couple young black bears on that trail. She reached out and cut one with her jack knife. They went running off and she hiked to the ranger station and reported the incident. It should be on the DEC website if you want to check it out.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

I'm well aware of the incident! It happened many years ago

[@nurse28707]

Well your channel name absolutely is as real and natural as it can be. No one need to ask why do you hate hiking, just watch this one vid. Too funny. Love how the camera just happens to be focused tactfully on Flossy at peak interest moments. Cold, wet, feet, anything takes away from the joy of any activity. Glad you succeeded in completion and had some moments in the sun. East coast always has likely rain chance. Sounds like you might need to explore out west sometime. Still check the weather.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Would love to check out some west coast hiking!

[@NoseyNuNu]

This is so awesome to watch 👍🏿👍🏿❤️

[@TenXTimmyFinsFeathersFurs]

Awesome video! Have you ever done a video on David Boomhower? When I was a kid I remember camping at Lewey Lake near the sucker brook trail where he was found by hunters after a long search. He was doing the NPT when he got beaver fever. Anyways- I know you would do an amazing video on his story. Keep up the good work!

[@TenXTimmyFinsFeathersFurs]

Never mind- I found the one you made!! Thank you!

[@andymytys]

This is a brutal trail when it’s wet. The trail isn’t maintained well - blowdowns, tons of mud, overgrown trail, and decaying puncheon and decking. Of course, the FB page for the trail makes it seem like it’s an awesome hike. Not so much in the rain, esp. with the limited scenic views along the route. I did it in Sept. 2021 in 8 days, north to the train station. Surprised you didn’t talk about how poorly marked that 1300 ft climb is and the part where you’re basically climbing up an old creek bed. That stretch on your last day between Cold River and Moose Pond Lean-to was the worst in terms of footing. My feet were constantly wet and cold - immersion foot set in. Didn’t matter how many pairs of socks I would have brought due to all the flooded tail. Lesson I learned was that the NPT during the wet season is no place for Lone Peaks - my feet would have faired a lot better in some sort of waterproof trail shoe or even, dare I say it, boots. Not all bad. I loved all the red spotted newts and the fact that I saw, on average, two people on the trail per day - everyone is in the high country. The local hoteliers and businesses really support the hikers. I even had a kid working the register at the gas station offer to run home and get a pair of socks for me.

[@1barron]

OK, I watch a lot of backpacking videos, it is lots easier than actually doing a long hike. I have to say this is the best one I have watched in quite a while.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

That is such a kind compliment, thank you so much Carl!

[@BackcountryTreks]

The shit days and trips are the ones you always remember. Well done!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

thank you!

[@m_soko]

That was a great job editing Kyle! Love the Adventure Archives bit at the end😆

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you! I dont know what you mean though

[@m_soko]

@@KyleHatesHiking from 27:45 is when it starts. You ever watch their channel? You sound exactly like one of the dudes

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Never watched them before!

[@frankzappa2451]

Good job on finishing the trail this time. ✌️👍🍻

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Frank 👍👍

[@gregmortonoutdoors]

Your best video to date. Congrats to you and Flossy, great job.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks man!!

[@ke9tv]

Love the NPT! Section-hiked it (planned a thru, had an illness and an accident) in 2014/2015. Your video took me right back to it. For such an easy trail, NPT is *hard*. It *always* rains there - except that I did about half my hike in October, and it was snow instead. You *will* wind up abandoning the trail somewhere and just bushwhacking because of the beavers. And the *mud*. Oh, lord, the *mud*. I'd never do it in 8 days. That's because I'm slow. Really slow. Still, I'm damned near old enough to be your grandpa and still getting Out There, so I can't complain. Except that I do, all the time. :) I'm curious. Almost everyone I know who's hiked it says that the section from Wakely Dam to Stephens Pond is soul-sucking somehow. It's not hard - it's one of the easiest bits of the trail - but somehow, everyone seems to want to quit while they're on it. And then the next day, I woke up at Stephens with a spring in my step, grabbed a quick shower at Lake Durant and just motored to Salmon River, and bounced over the ridge the next day as if it were nothing. Did you feel any of the spiritual problem with that section? Anyway, you put a smile on my face almost as big as when I finished.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

I really enjoyed that section, mostly because the weather was nice while I went through there. It is a long section with no lean tos or way points, so if you aren't hiking fast then I can see how it would be tough.

[@freeheel748]

From Saranac Lake. Fun to see the trail from your eyes. Hard to break out the camera when tired. Great job.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you. I love Saranac!

[@Golddragon214]

You guys made me laugh and feel the pain. I hiked the Cranberry Lake 50 and ran out of battery power to shoot the last half, yeah last half of that trip. So not bad.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

🤙🤙

[@Kirk3719]

Flossy’s breakfast subtitles 😂 good stuff man, my favorite video yet. Editing was great

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks so much man! Cool to talk to you last night

[@hikingfeedsmysoul6960]

Great video Kyle!!! One of my favs

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks so much!

[@titanpreparedness]

Looks like a great trip so far(only half way thru) good to get out there and try it again.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

We ripped it

[@beserk]

been a fan since you posted on the 'hiking the adirondacks' facebook page quite a while back. live just outside Northville and do a lot of day hikes on the NP. Wish I had known when you were heading thru, you were a half mile from my home when you did the road walk out of N'ville. would love to have met you 2!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Next time!

[@VanirTraditionalist]

I used to snowmobile around Piseco. Could get hairy even on a machine, some rugged wilderness up there.

[@generalmartok3990]

Some of the best feelings are when you make it through absolute crap weather and into town and proceed to eat 3,000 calories.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Amen!!

[@ClimbingEasy]

Nothing better then sandals hiking in wet trail. Never got my socks wet that way.... As long as it's above 45° f.

[@dfw_sleepypillz1007]

Cinematic. Solid plot. 4.9 of 5. Needed more special effects for the perfect 5 - but none-the-less - rock on Kyle. Rock on. Great content.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks man, really appreciate it

[@MatthewSchneider-k9w]

I need to start my hiking adventure s such a passion of mine

[@laurag2422]

Love the honest depiction Kyle 🙏🏻 Nice work editing. Can’t wait for the next one - maybe something funny? 🙏🏻🙌🏻👍🏻🎒🏕

[@KyleHatesHiking]

We've got a few funny videos in the works :)

[@The_Weekend_Warriors]

Congratulations dude! It’s a beast of a trail

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Yes it is. Thank you!

[@The_Weekend_Warriors]

@@KyleHatesHiking anytime man you earned it!

[@user-xt7rs8md7p]

Great video!

[@petermarshall582]

"Embrace the suck" as they say when it rains all day. Flossy pees a lot, does he need to see a doctor? Wow, I can't believe the miles that you put in on SUCK weather. Really great video! Please keep up the quality on the trail with you and Flossy. You are so lucky to have each other to hike and bust balls all day. Never forget how to spell FRIEND. A friend to the END, that why "end" is at the end of the word. I really enjoyed it, it was worth the wait even though you screwed up the end. If you did not mention it, we would have never known.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Peter. It sucks I missed the ending footage but its also kind of funny

[@brittanycollins802]

Great video! Also, thanks for the backcountry code. I'm heading out to CO next week for a hike and it saved me some cash on a bear cannister

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Awesome to hear!

[@twotonadk]

Oh hell yes! My lean to fire pit (I adopted the Moose Pond lean to) made the vid at 28:30. Bam yo!😂🤣😂 Congrats on the finish!😁

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Yes it did! I was so tired when I got there. Beautiful spot though!

[@GruntProof]

0:41 that's exactly why we carry 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jcb5011]

The Adirondacks can definitely break you. Glad you finished it. Are you going to do any of the 46 high peaks?

[@KyleHatesHiking]

already done all of them

[@barb61]

Lots of scenic points along the trail- fall colors, beautiful lakes and ponds, wet hikers with burnt shoes, Flossy peeing :D keep it real! enjoyed the video!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Barb!

[@SquarebobSpongepants]

love the IBTAT reference @ 3:28

[@kajunblades9772]

Dude freaking awesome video. 🤘

[@hike2change574]

Congrats on the completing the trail. So since you didn't film the end you have to redo it again. It doesn't count unless you vlog the whole thing 😂😂 Great video man!!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Ahh shit haha. Thanks

[@estellaescalante6314]

I died at the cracked phone 🤣. Love the video man. Keep up the great work!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you! - sent from my cracked phone

[@joshrollins6541]

I need to redeem myself on the NPT. Quit last year. Nice work!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Its a tough trail... but if you can do it, so can I!

[@Duckling08]

I hope you have upgraded your water purification method. Be free water purifiers are the best! Super fast and easy.

[@aldenchaisson7135]

Awesome video Kyle

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks!!

[@jessegoodspeed5076]

Aslo by the leaves on trees look like late September esrly October and there is rain all time in upstate ny best time in my opinion is late august

[@Teddy-fx6fx]

Nice job man. Just found your channel 👍

[@KyleHatesHiking]

thank you!

[@RobFarrell17]

Congratulations!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thanks Rob!

[@stevewright2241]

I like this video. You need to go hike again next weekend.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

My foot still hurts!

[@rodrev_hiking6757]

Where can I buy printed foodbags? Respect for finishing and pushing through man . These are the hikes u remember with a proud smile

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thank you! The foodbags are made by Hilltop Packs. If you buy from them, be sure to tell them I sent ya! lol

[@Mt.Everest.]

Do you ever think you will do the Everest Base Camp Trek??

[@JaredHikes]

What are the odds I listen to one of your podcasts today hiking Space Mountain Trail and you talk about dropping your cellphone without a case.... I get home and the random vid youtube throws up while watching syntax77, turns out to be the one you mentioned in the podcast? Trip out. 🤠🖖

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Thats awesome haha! Thanks for watching

[@mysterious.hiker.x]

Obviously I'm biased because I already told you I think longer form videos are more appealing...but this really is your best trip video yet. Really enjoyed this one. Maybe we can write into your work on your behalf to get you more time off to do longer trails like this in future?

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Haha please, that would be great! Thanks so much for your kind words

[@mysterious.hiker.x]

@@KyleHatesHiking "Dear Kyle's Job, Kyle has super tremendously important things he needs to do on behalf of all humanity. The world depends on him and he needs another 8 days off. Sincerely, Random KZbin Fans"

[@shoogur3920]

eyyy flossy I’ve got the same colour frogg toggs!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Toggs for the win!

[@DeloraUpwards]

HAHA, that was the most "Kyle Hates Hiking" ending you could have imagined. Dan Becker never would have messed up video at the end of the trail. For reals though, the footage was gorgeous, and I'm sorry it rained and sucked so much. Other than the swampy beaver pond area, it looked like an amazing trail. Did you see anyone else on the long stretches outside of the park areas?

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Didn't see that many people. Maybe a few hikers each day

[@Thomas-wn7cl]

How was the trail quality of the NPT? I have hiked some in the Adirondacks and the trail was so rocky and gullied out it was like hiking in a dry creek bed. Once it was a mile or two outside the the trailhead the trail quality went to shit. Also, all sorts of "no camping" signs everywhere, and there few clearings to camp.

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Camping is easier on the NPT than the high peaks, but the trail just just as rugged in a lot of spots

[@Yella7879]

been waiting for this!!

[@KyleHatesHiking]

Hope you enjoyed it!!