L-29 Crash Reno National Championship Air Races 18 Sept 2022

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@mattinsley1721
@mattinsley1721 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown, Juan. Everything has been so quiet since the accident. I was hoping you would break it down for us. All respect to the family and friends.
@kevingrammes8426
@kevingrammes8426 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aaron. Juan you are very professional and sensitive in your reports, much appreciate your videos.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 2 жыл бұрын
Juan does a great job…. Too bad the metrosexual twits at “ do you nothing but evil” big brother limit his ability to Tell the story….
@Tiger313NL
@Tiger313NL 2 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@Jay-zc7iq
@Jay-zc7iq 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking great out there too , fly high mr houge , thoughts to your family & friends x
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@wernerschulte6245
@wernerschulte6245 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, too !
@FLYBOYJ
@FLYBOYJ 2 жыл бұрын
Great post Juan! I worked as a crew chief on both L29s and L39s for several years at the races and you make sense of many things. The L29 is a pretty robust aircraft, all control surfaces have push tubes and beefy bell cranks so if he pulled an aileron off, there was a considerable about of force going on there. I believe these modified L29s may also have an electric trim feature installed to assist control at higher speeds. I had some bitter sweet memories working at the races and around L29s and L39s and retired from the community after dealing with some tragedies that involved my family. Seeing this happen somewhat opens up some old wounds. RIP Aaron and thanks again Juan for posting this. Sometimes a part of the healing process is when we can somewhat make sense of what happened.
@raf3031
@raf3031 2 жыл бұрын
Joe where have you been? This was GLOC pure and simple. Too much plane for the pilot. I remember all the help you gave Riff Raff Racing in the early days
@FLYBOYJ
@FLYBOYJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@raf3031 Glad to hear from you old friend! Totally retired, living the good life wile I try to keep my teenage girls on the straight and narow!
@woodsytom675
@woodsytom675 2 жыл бұрын
I was there and witnessed this 1st hand And what Juan says Coincides with what happened Rest in peace Aaron And my prayers go out to you and your family and close friends This was truly devastating
@jeffmelter8275
@jeffmelter8275 2 жыл бұрын
I was there too. The thing that struck me was the silence of the crowd after it happen.
@crazyhumpy
@crazyhumpy 2 жыл бұрын
My condolences to his family and friends! They were having the absolute best race of the day, until this. Watching those two battle for 1st place was amazing. Everyone's hearts in the crowd sunk and it was dead silent. He was doing what he loved. Doesn't make it any easier to accept, though.
@chriswesney
@chriswesney 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Hogue and Sherman Smoot were both highly admired local pilots here in San Luis Obispo county CA. Our family is friends with both of their families and it’s a giant loss for our local aviation community.
@Sven2157
@Sven2157 2 жыл бұрын
@straybullitt
@straybullitt 2 жыл бұрын
I was excited all year to see the races. When it came time to sit down and watch, I just couldn't do it. I kept thinking that this was totally out of character for me. Now I understand why. I must be getting old and soft. I used to be able to just shrug off these aviation tragedies using all of the cliches that us pilots use. And knowing that the the same thing could happen to me with one simple untimely misstep. Rest in Peace Aaron
@Bluenose352
@Bluenose352 2 жыл бұрын
With the loss of Sherman Smoot, and Czech Mate, before the race week, I had a bad feeling this year, at Reno, wouldn't be good.
@lcfflc3887
@lcfflc3887 2 жыл бұрын
it's a stupid race, never main to be, but money publicity and red bull think is worth it.
@michaeld5888
@michaeld5888 2 жыл бұрын
I was like that with the Isle of Man TT which I loved to watch but from nowhere this year it just seemed too dangerous and I went cool on it. Glad these guys enjoy what they do and hope they can continue to do so if they want. I suppose at some point after a time spent watching the consequences of it do eventually sink in and it is no longer fun to watch.
@charlesborlase2238
@charlesborlase2238 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeld5888 Isle of Mann TT is insane to me. I like watching bits now and again. I used to ride liter bikes, but never ever half of what these guys are doing. (meaning half the speed for about 1/10th the risk)
@kCI251
@kCI251 2 жыл бұрын
The young pilots don't always have the wisdom to know better. I just wish they could make it safer (not boringly safe) but safer!
@MrWizard209
@MrWizard209 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aaron. Juan thank you for excellent coverage of a tragic incident. Much love sent to Aaron's family and all of the other racers.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise
@TheGospelQuartetParadise 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this crash yesterday on the livestream, and send prayers and condolences to the family of Aaron Hogue. Juan, you are so in-depth with your analysis, when you retire from the cockpit you would be an enormous asset to aviation as an NTSB investigator.
@PKerusso
@PKerusso 2 жыл бұрын
Aw man. This brings back horrible memories of 2011…my son and I were less than a hundred feet from the crash of the galloping ghost. The aftermath is still vivid…God bless all those effected.
@CCitis
@CCitis 2 жыл бұрын
Wow was that in 2011!! time flies by.
@davidfredrickson4107
@davidfredrickson4107 2 жыл бұрын
I was pelted with nuts n bolts on the top level of G section. That was an ugly crash.
@nilsnilsnilsify
@nilsnilsnilsify 2 жыл бұрын
I may have been sitting near you - I was probably around 100 ft away from where the Ghost went in too, got showered with some debris. Took me about 3 or 4 years to stop flinching when an aircraft passed low overhead. RIP Jimmy and Aaron.
@atg197
@atg197 2 жыл бұрын
Condolences to those directly affected by this pilot's death. Armchair quarterbacking, but why allow different G limits for different classes? A human body is a human body. Rocking along at 5G the whole race just means you're one course correction away from disaster, apparently. Faster planes need a larger course. Maybe cross country would be a better type of course like SARL or similar. Guessing jets will either go to larger courses or will no longer be racing here.
@elliothuh669
@elliothuh669 2 жыл бұрын
@@atg197 All they need is the fly bys to amuse the audience they can widen the turns a lot. And since they are going 500mph should still pass by the audience and not leave them waiting too long.
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 жыл бұрын
Those air races are another one of those things, like the Isle of Man TT or Pikes Peak races, that I can't believe we're still allowed to do... Never let them stop you or use this as a leverage point to ban it. I'm sure Mr. Hogue would agree, the risks were worth it and he died a free man. It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. RIP Aaron Hogue, you went out like a man. Respect. Fascinating breakdown of a sport I know little about.
@slkgeothermal
@slkgeothermal 2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation Juan. I believe it happened as you submit. I watched the video on another channel and it looked like the jet was intact until impact. My F 16 pilot friend from McDill AFB always talked about "Fast Pants" to counteract the G force they were able to produce. I am always sorry to learn of pilot and crew loss but love the opportunity to learn from others mistakes. Thank you for your efforts.
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@1zanglang
@1zanglang 2 жыл бұрын
Since I heard the news about the loss of a pilot at Reno, I was waiting to your report. Very objective and well documented. We are ordinary people, who make mistakes. But some of us, unfortunately, pay with their lives for those mistakes. Sorry for that talented pilot and for his family. RIP
@kennysherrill6542
@kennysherrill6542 2 жыл бұрын
Very sorry to hear this, this is the second lose this month, we lost a pilot from Minter and still waiting on what happened. RIP AARON.🙏♥️🇺🇸
@jamiethompson827
@jamiethompson827 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Juan. Glad to find you here! (I recognized my name on your video! )😉 My husband and I have been discussing this all day. I’m a retired Paramedic, and my husband Mark is a fighter weapons school instructor pilot with 450 hours in the F-22/F-15 with over 5,500 fighter hours. Our impression of the crash is literally identical to what we just watched you describe in your video. We completely agree with your assessment. You did a great job describing g-LOC and the frame by frame analysis was exactly what we did, and we came to the exact same conclusion.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jamie.
@Darkvirgo88xx
@Darkvirgo88xx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot but I've learned so much from you and Dan Gryder. All these fatality crashes lately are heartbreaking. Especially the GA crashes that are preventable with proper reoccurring training.
@CAPFlyer
@CAPFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being able to sit down and discuss this Juan. I saw the video Sunday afternoon before you posted this and thought the maneuvers looked like G-LOC, but was hoping you or someone else would be able to post with more information and hopefully some "on the ground" information to clarify. It's a sad loss, and Aaron's family and friends have been and will be very much in my prayers. It's a hard loss for so many.
@harpandharley
@harpandharley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your report Juan. I didn’t realize they were pulling so many G’s. RIP Aaron.
@howardmaryon
@howardmaryon 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who was an aerobatic champion for several years in my country. I used to get to go “backstage” at airshows, which was a lot of fun. He was part of a display team as well as a solo pilot. He told me in confidence that he sometimes had “red-outs” when competing, and had had several minor “blackouts” as well. Eventually he was unable to continue flying competitively because his blackouts became frequent.
@geraldsobel3470
@geraldsobel3470 2 жыл бұрын
I've had several black outs while training in the Navy RIO program during the patriotic Vietnam War. Very scary. Takes the romance out of the whole deal.
@daddydbo50
@daddydbo50 Жыл бұрын
Frequent events are controllable. It is the same phenomenon as a skater in a spin. They also get disoriented, but frequent events allows the skaters to minimize the recovery time by getting used to the sensations. So sorry the pilot could not recover.
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ Жыл бұрын
@@daddydbo50 no, a blackout is not disorientation. It is all the blood and oxygen it carries flowing out of your brain into your lower extremities leaving you unconscious as if you were choked out in a cage fight. It can be mitigated by cramping the muscles in your legs and thighs and lower abdomen.
@edshedosky4756
@edshedosky4756 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your video on this tragic accident. You are respectful and knowledgeable. We need to go on and learn from this accident. Keep up the good work.
@fernandochavez4312
@fernandochavez4312 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very few people that get to be doing something they love when their lives are cut short. My condolences to his family and friends.
@erinmac4750
@erinmac4750 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to this pilot's family and friends, as well as the racing community. Your coverage of this incident was very respectful, yet you underscored the message of caution to always be mindful of your location and the potentials of your actions while flying. We humans have a knack for letting our reach exceed our grasp. In cases like flying planes, that's why so much training an experience is necessary. Thank you for your insightful explanation, Juan. 💔
@DadsTimeOutdoors
@DadsTimeOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
People have to remember that these are not Fighter Pilots who train on a regular basis flying high G turns and maneuvers. Nor do they have proper equipment such as a G suit like JB said..... they are weekend warriors who fly jets for fun twice a year for the thrill and sport and entertainment for you and I....... Juan hit this one right on the head....Aaron over corrected when realizing he would cut the pylon, then tried to get back only to Balck out and that was it...... excellent analysis JB....
@1flyride
@1flyride 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they are not military trained, the currency, total experience level required, recent experience and specific training needed for Jet Racing (or racing in any class, actually) is not a "weekend warrior" activity. The minimum requirements are clearly defined and available for public review on the Jet Racing class website. And not to mention that G suits are not used by the Blue Angels or any airshow aerobatic performer, all of which pull up to 8 G's or more. The rest of your statement is accurate. I was there and there is little doubt that a G-LOC event and possible over-G of the airframe occurred based on the video and loss of the aileron. One thing that is not being pointed out is the utter insanity of the pilot's decision to turn right against the course and following aircraft. If no crash had occurred, I believe an action like that would have resulted in an immediate black flag and the pilot decertified for the remainder of the race season.
@jonathanbaird8109
@jonathanbaird8109 2 жыл бұрын
As flyride said, for someone flying like this, 5 Gs is nothing. They should be able to pull and sustain 5 Gs for quite a while with no issues. GLOC tends to be something you see with pilots who haven't figured out a good G-strain yet or have poor fitness or a poor diet.
@charlesborlase2238
@charlesborlase2238 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jonathanbaird8109 If he blacked out at 5Gs you'd have a point. It's entirely possible he hit well over 8 trying to pull back onto course. Remember Juan saw a aileron depart. That's structural failure. I suspect airframes can sustain higher G load that pilots.
@joemclaughlin995
@joemclaughlin995 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad to lose such a great man in this way.Deepest condolences to Aaron's family,friends and all at the air event.God bless and r.i.p. man. As we say in the world of aviation of our departed colleagues,'Blue skies Aaron!'
@jkapown
@jkapown 2 жыл бұрын
Love your "just the facts Ma'am" type of descriptions accompanied by your highly informed opinions Juan, well done...again.
@richardc020
@richardc020 2 жыл бұрын
Your professionalism makes all aviation safer and more understandable so thank you, Juan.
@darrenphillips1652
@darrenphillips1652 2 жыл бұрын
Again, Juan.....very well done and your description of this accident paints a clear picture of the events. Thank you. RIP to the pilot and condolences to his family and friends. Blue Skies.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry this happened in your community, Juan. You did a very professional job in telling us this story, and I found out the likely cause as usual in your videos. RIP
@bobcuster8930
@bobcuster8930 2 жыл бұрын
Juan: what a great update on this Stihl Reno Air Races tragedy! You are always so through and professional. One note to the readers out of this Northern Nevada area -- Reno, Nevada, is at 4,500 feet of elevation - The Truckee River runs year round through Reno. Alpine Lake Tahoe is 24 miles from Reno. Reno, technically, is in the High Sierra foothills. Near Reno, at Stead, where the air races are held, is more arid high country. This Nevada area is not a very dry, lower elevation desert like Las Vegas -- which is 440 miles away from Reno.. .
@johnafsoc8929
@johnafsoc8929 2 жыл бұрын
Heart felt wishes to Aaron’s family and friends. It saddens me every time I hear about another one of our aviation friends passing. Juan many thanks for your continued efforts to bring content and education to the community.
@theherald3117
@theherald3117 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining G-loc. I had seen it mentioned in a video I watched this morning but didn’t understand what it meant. I live just a few miles from the Stead Airport, and really enjoy the show each year. I didn’t go that day, but I am sad for Aaron and his family. I pray God comforts them. Rest In Peace, Aaron.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P., Aaron. Prayers to the family & friends for strength through this difficult time. Thank you for the info, Juan. So sad to hear. I hope the lesson going forward is that NO win is worth ANYONE’S life. 😢
@1rembo69
@1rembo69 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for juan to bring his perspective to how this happened, Juan you are professional at recapping the incident. I really didn't want to hear anyone else before I heard your breakdown to this incident. Thank you Juan. Many prayers & comfort to family, friends & the racing aviation sport that knew Aaron Hogue.
@MX304
@MX304 2 жыл бұрын
Going from a 90 degree banked left hand turn to a 90 degree banked right hand turn to stay on course is not something ANY air race pilot would do on purpose. That is a sure fire way to be banned for life in any race class. I think you are correct about the crash happening because of G-lock, but I think it began sooner. In order to be that far inside of that pylon, 100+ feet according to witnesses at the pylon, he would have pulled much harder than if he would have stayed on the course. I believe that got him greyed out and caused the massive over correction to the right. Then he was fully out and just along for the ride. I have a clear video shot from outside the course and it does not appear that an aileron is missing.
@sazzy6264
@sazzy6264 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aaron. Juan, thank you for this well-thought-out, and informative video. I was watching the live stream of the race when it happened and it took me a moment to even process what I had seen. Then the live stream was shut off. It was truly heart wrenching. My thoughts and prayers go out to the friends and family, as well as the other participants and spectators who I'm sure are still immensely shaken up.
@CCitis
@CCitis 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing you can be SO dialed into the race, the task at hand that you just keep pulling rather than letting off and losing the race. Sad day, rest in peace fellow aviatior. Godspeed, fair winds and blue skies.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 жыл бұрын
I know what that's like. All safety is thrown out the window and getting to the finish line first is all that matters when competition is really tight. It's a weird frame of mind.
@donuthole7236
@donuthole7236 2 жыл бұрын
I've flown in an L-29. Even "box stock" that was a rough ride in the hands of an experienced pilot. Took me 4 hours to recover after getting both feet back on the ground (kind of). Condolances to the family
@A1CNick
@A1CNick 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear of this. I have had a number of very positive customer experiences with his company. I had no idea he was involved in air racing.
@HomeGypsy
@HomeGypsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! Interesting that you can’t post the video on KZbin. I saw it about ten times on Twitter right after it happened. 🤷‍♀️ Condolences to his family, friends, fans, and others who cared about him. They must be totally in shock. 💜
@chuckinwyoming8526
@chuckinwyoming8526 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan, Very sad.... I was watching the live stream and couldn't tell if he flew through the wake of another aircraft and pulled high G. I also was pretty sure he GLOCed with no control inputs showing for seconds. Flying only a couple hundred feet AGL you have no time to recover. Your understanding of the race and a pilot about to miss a pylon clears it up.
@TheJapanChannelDcom
@TheJapanChannelDcom 2 жыл бұрын
Fast and tight turns close to the ground. These races and airshows will inevitably sometimes result in fatalities. Doesn't seem worth it. I have been doing aerobatics for 30 years... made lots of mistakes.. but always over 3,000ft, so I am still alive.
@johnmadden6472
@johnmadden6472 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juan for your analysis of this event. Living in Paso Robles and a member of the Estrella Warbirds Museum I am once again saddened to hear of another loss from our community. I have watched the crash on another channel and you are correct, not much to examine.
@mstx1007
@mstx1007 2 жыл бұрын
I was there. Aaron went up high two (really 3) times starting between pylons 6 and 7 pushing the other l29 way up high nearly hitting him. I commented to my wife something was wrong, he went up high after the start/finish and again after that and then the fatal turn. Looked like he was either having control surface issues or health issues. Either way I wish he had declared a mayday and pulled up and out. Tragic. The tsb will surely dissect what happened, as I'm no investigator, but I hope they view the entire lap because whatever happened started much earlier. Thanks Juan, appreciate your videos very much.
@mikemangoldinvestigation8270
@mikemangoldinvestigation8270 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I was there too! While Aaron had a fast clear lower altitude line that was potentially un-obstructed by air traffic he was TOO LOW the whole time (but above 50 ft minimum) to allow for margin of error and correction. He was changing altitude too much to keep the "low lane" that he actually lost overall speed in increasing overall distance going up and down. While Pete stayed consistently higher knowing smooth and level on altitude was going to be overall shorter lineal distance and Pete could just wait it out reel him in and win. Remember I saw them do this the day before and Aaron won by fractions Saturday... Pete also has more military fighter low level experience and race experience. Either way I will miss Aaron Hogue, my sympathy to Patrick his brother and family from Rob Mangold.
@mikejohnson5900
@mikejohnson5900 2 жыл бұрын
So sad to see this. Very sorry for you as well Juan as you are so involved with the races and all the folks there - it's likely you spoke to this gentlemen over the weekend. Condolences to his family.
@jamesabrothers8117
@jamesabrothers8117 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a sad day when the loss of life happens out on the race course my heartfelt prayers go to the family and all those colleagues affected by this horrific crash. May we all learn to stay vigilant and stay safe Godspeed
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 2 жыл бұрын
Argh, I was really hoping this would not happen this year. From your videos and show broadcasts, it looked like you were having a blast. Prayers and condolences to Aaron's family and friends, and the aviation community. RIP [edit} Great analysis as always. When I watched it (the air show broadcast), I considered he pulled in tight, blacked/grayed out, controls go to neutral and squirts the plane out, Aaron recovers and gets back into the fight but blacks out completely and locks the controls such that he flies into the ground.
@ewthmatth
@ewthmatth 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "locks the controls"?
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 2 жыл бұрын
@@ewthmatth I did have a good to describe what I mean - what I am trying to say, and forgive me here as I am not a pilot, is passing/blacks out with his arms and legs pressed against the stick due to the g-loads (I don't know but imagine these jets had a center stick and not wheel) such that the controls are essentially locked. I realize I probably spoke out of turn, but I am an aviation enthusiast (most of my 8 uncles flew either in WWII, racers, or crop dusters), and was expressing my thoughts.
@Dcscockpit
@Dcscockpit 2 жыл бұрын
Right after this happened I came right to your channel to see if you had anything up yet. Great videos keep them coming
@bushpilot223
@bushpilot223 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh... This was hard to watch. Literally, right before this happened, my wife was watching with me and said "Man, this looks dangerous." I told her, it is, but it's not as dangerous as it looks, I told her there hasn't been an accident in over 10 years. Literally 5 minutes later this happened... My deepest condolences to Aaron's family.. such a tragedy :(
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, not as dangerous as it looks [eyeroll]
@bushpilot223
@bushpilot223 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamescollier3 yea, I ate those words real quick :( she was comparing it to stock car racing etc. where crashes happen in almost every race.
@lynnkramer1211
@lynnkramer1211 2 жыл бұрын
2018 there was a mid air contact accident. Not a lot of dead bodies, but there are accidents quite often. It is more dangerous than it looks.
@dingodango1
@dingodango1 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a vampire go land out in the dirt about 5 years ago.
@bushpilot223
@bushpilot223 2 жыл бұрын
@@lynnkramer1211 wasn't aware of that. To my knowledge the last fatal accident was in 2011.
@tomberto9041
@tomberto9041 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Juan, for being a calm voice. My impression, while watching, was that he also pulled UP as well as OUT. Usually on the back of the course one sees aircraft going right to left. My memory sucks, and I was in the stands - three miles away - but I recall that Aaron's jet was going UP as well. Then the flight path bent down. A horrible accident. They all are.
@richb313
@richb313 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information on this crash in a professional manner and condolences to the family of Aaron Hogue.
@ashleyhall1362
@ashleyhall1362 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, Juan. In the livestream video you can see he rolls almost inverted to the right. That made me wonder initially if perhaps when he loaded the wings even more in his pull-up to the higher line he might have entered a high speed stall and snapped to the right (as Wayne Handley demonstrates in his excellent Turn Smart video). Then, encountering G-LOC after pulling extremely hard in the attempt to bring his aircraft back to the left into the course line. Your hypothesis that his initial right turn was to avoid a pylon cut seems more plausible. Terribly sad outcome. Was there yesterday and witnessed it in person. Have been thinking about those near and dear to him and their heartbreaking loss.
@jamesnichols5163
@jamesnichols5163 2 жыл бұрын
So sad to see, great breakdown and context though
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely tragic. Our sincerest condolences to Aaron's family.
@BM0603
@BM0603 2 жыл бұрын
This was my presumption as well, based on flight path. It may be time to require G-Suits in the fastest classes due to sustained G loading. As a spectator at Reno-Stead I enjoy the aircraft competing at those speeds on the biggest course. I will be back. Aaron had a passion for competitive flying, knew the risks, and would want the racing to continue every year. My condolences to the entire racing community (pilots, crew, volunteers, staff, & spectators) and his family for their loss.
@bower31
@bower31 Жыл бұрын
Well unfortunately it won't be necessary since 23 will be the last race. Long run, it'll be remembered.
@BM0603
@BM0603 Жыл бұрын
We have our seats for the last world championship races at Reno Stead.
@rickprindle3971
@rickprindle3971 2 жыл бұрын
Good info. Logical cause of accident. I have owned about 12 L-29s over last 15 years. I talked to Aaron in 2019 for a long time at Reno about L-29s when he first flew a stock L-29 to Reno just to show and not race. Really nice guy. I went over that L-29 with him a little and pointed out some things like the typical L-29 corrosion on the lower trailing edge of rudder that needed attention. I do not know if his 2022 L-29 race entry was that same airframe, but obviously the one he was racing had a Pratt & Whitney 3000+ pound thrust engine, not the stock Walter M-701C. The L-29 has a really strong airframe. The first 2 prototypes flew with Rolls-Royce Viper engines of almost 3000 pounds thrust, so a properly installed higher power engine should not cause problems. Production L-29s all had the 1900 pound thrust Walter M-701 engine. L-29s and L-39s have a G-suit system and it would seem to be a good idea to use it for racing in spite of the discomfort. Glad Pete Stavrides did not get hit in the close racing. I know him too. Pete recently bought an L-29 from me for a new project. I am building myself another L-29 from 2 that I recently acquired. Planning to put GE CJ610 engine in that L-29 project.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick.
@Ryanboy2020
@Ryanboy2020 2 жыл бұрын
God bless him, his family and friends! There is always some risk when competing in air racing. RANA makes every effort to make it as safe as possible for the participants as well as the spectators. We can only hope that we learn what happened and do what we can to ensure this will never happen again.
@happyhome41
@happyhome41 2 жыл бұрын
I was a guinea pig in the centrifuge at WPAFB in my young lieutenant days - typically 9 g's in the F-16 seat profile, and given they are racing jets and have pressurization available, why don't they install the g-suit takeoff and train ? Excellent report !
@nancychace8619
@nancychace8619 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they need it.
@raven6245
@raven6245 2 жыл бұрын
Probably due to the weight of the system. There trying to fly fast and less weight is faster.
@TrondBørgeKrokli
@TrondBørgeKrokli 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain what may have happened in that accident. Good to have your insight to rely on when things like this happens and we non-pilots are left with dozens of questions in our heads about what may have caused the accidents. My condolances to his family, friends, loved ones, and fans. For someone like me, it is difficult to imagine how easy it could be to cross the line between flying safely and exeeding the limits for what is considered safe, in a competition like this one. I can only imagine the loss to the plane racing community this must be. May he rest in peace.
@robinbutler3333
@robinbutler3333 2 жыл бұрын
Such a loss. So sad. Thank you Juan for helping us understand this tragedy.
@craigt4467
@craigt4467 2 жыл бұрын
Jaun your expert reporting of this tragic loss gives us a very clear picture of what was about to happen In this high speed race. Thank you for your sensitivity bringing us what is known so far. Bravo 👏🏻 My best wishes always from Las Vegas Craig I’m sharing your video now This video is 10 out of 5 stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ “See ya here” 🙏🏻✌️😇✅
@turbofanlover
@turbofanlover 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this vid as soon as I heard the sad news yesterday. Thanks, Juan. RIP Mr. Hogue.
@giorgiocaenazzo3204
@giorgiocaenazzo3204 2 жыл бұрын
Juan, very insightful analysis. Just a thought: what if it was the loss of right aileron control having induced the turn to the right, rather than a deliberate manoeuvre? (particularly at that speed and g's it is like missing a large piece of the right wing lift) What do you think?
@bronco5334
@bronco5334 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. The right roll-out that started the sequence just seems too lazy to be an "oh no, I have to course-correct to stay in the pylon" maneuver. Of course I can't definitively say, but it just looks and feels to me like that initial roll-out was part of a loss of aileron control. He never seemed to have positive roll control the entire time from the right roll-out all the way until impacting terrain. It's a fairly slow roll into the right, a relatively slow roll back left even BEFORE the alleged over-g maneuver.... none of it seems consistent to me with someone trying to throw the airplane around the sky. That, and the fact there is a partial, twitching attempt at roll-out as if he's attempting to right the aircraft in the last seconds of descent... as if fighting assymetric lift
@johnbriggs5250
@johnbriggs5250 2 жыл бұрын
Condolences to the family...Juan, your analysis and information is truly spot on and instructional.
@mikemarley2389
@mikemarley2389 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juan.Sad day at the races.My Father and Mother had their pilots license.Dad was taught by Gordon Froisness who was a crop duster.That was in the twenty's.Mom soloed out of Hayward Municipal.Instead of flying to San Jose she flew over the Sierras into Reno. Had lunch , played some slots and flew home.She was walking on cloud nine my Dad said when she got back .
@jaredl.1738
@jaredl.1738 2 жыл бұрын
I was sad I missed the Air Races this year but very glad I didn't see this tragedy. RIP Aaron, I hope he went out doing what he loved.
@vulcan03
@vulcan03 2 жыл бұрын
OMG no joke, I was at the Grand Sierra Resort in Reno and there was a small group of people playing black jack with me. This guy was one them! He was playing last base and left after loosing and told his friend "ill see you in the morning"
@dogfoodking
@dogfoodking 2 жыл бұрын
Juan's professionalism and knowledge set this channel apart.
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom 2 жыл бұрын
Your conclusion was exactly the same that i came to. I live here in Reno and was at the races thur-sat. Thankful i didn't attend Sunday to have to witness this tragic event.
@geofiggy
@geofiggy 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aaron. Thanks for the update JB. 😢 Take care and fly safe. 🖖🏼🤟🏼
@wlg31x
@wlg31x 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent and informative analysis of what most likely happened in this crash. I was at the air races witnessed this crash. A number of military pilots watching had come to the same preliminary conclusion that this was a G-LOC event. Your analysis explains clearly what most likely induced the G-LOC. A review of the video corroborates your conclusion. Your channel is top notch for after the fact learning and analysis and my go to for aviation insight on these unfortunate crashes.
@terrallputnam7979
@terrallputnam7979 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aaron. These races are definitely dangerous and the pilots know this. They choose to take the risk, knowing that the payoff is there with the risk. Prayers for the family. My Dad always taught me, " there are old pilots, and bold pilots. There are not many who are both.
@danielchurchill9004
@danielchurchill9004 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan. I was there with my World War II 96-year-old flying father. We had a great time until this incident. RIP Aaron Hoge!! And Sherman Smoot!!
@ALIVE8455
@ALIVE8455 2 жыл бұрын
Saw this happen from the stands. Absolutely gut wrenching seeing it approach the ground then the ball of fire. I can't imagine what the family is going through. Thank you for covering this, GLOC sounds the most likely.
@woodsytom675
@woodsytom675 2 жыл бұрын
I was there too in the stands right with you This was truly devastating Good luck to you and hopefully see you at the next race God-bless you
@ALIVE8455
@ALIVE8455 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodsytom675 Thank you, I intend to be there next year. The pilots know the risk they are taking and so do we as spectators. He died doing what he loved
@woodsytom675
@woodsytom675 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's awesome I will see you there next year I feel the same way we all know the risks Believe it or not this was my 1st air race I have ever been to And I had a great time Until this devastating event happened But it does not discourage me from going again and giving my support God-bless you And God-bless Aaron and his family
@Patriot36
@Patriot36 2 жыл бұрын
While I do believe GLOC was the cause of the crash, it's really hard for me to believe that an anticipated pylon cut explains the radical maneuvering by Aaron. It just doesn't seem like something a somewhat experienced Reno Racer would do intentionally, with total disregard for his fellow pilots. It' all quite sad but I'd be really surprised if a missed pylon caused this type of insane piloting in such close proximity to his competitors. I suspect the could be a missed analysis but I could be wrong. Appreciate the work, Juan.
@davekat4680
@davekat4680 2 жыл бұрын
Another professional, respectful presentation…Blessings to Aaron his family and friends 🙏🏼
@bighaasfly
@bighaasfly 2 жыл бұрын
You raise a good point about the g-lock theory. I didn’t think of that. My initial impression was that he lost controllability as something broke in the controls. I saw a man fighting for his life. Sad either way. Hate it when this happens. A byproduct of pushing boundaries.
@daveadolph9069
@daveadolph9069 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Juan. Sad stuff indeed, but the other side of these tragedies is that these folks are doing what they love, and I'm sure they know the inherent risks involved. It's an almost greater tragedy for the people who know and love them. RIP Aaron.
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan, I've been waiting to hear your take on this. My condolences to all.
@lavernedofelmier6496
@lavernedofelmier6496 2 жыл бұрын
Pushing the envelope is a risky business, sad this happened but competitive minds forget the dangers. Thanks for the reporting.
@piranhabadass1
@piranhabadass1 2 жыл бұрын
Great Breakdown Juan. When I first saw the video of the accident, I was also thinking G-Lock. Prayers to Aaron's family and Friends. The man died doing what he loved!
@kelfarley
@kelfarley 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to "like" this video but good content as always. I enjoyed hearing your voice out there for the STOL races which are becoming a favorite of mine.
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, have times changed. I attended the Reno air races once in the mid 1960s when Stead Air Force base had just recently been decommissioned. Crowds were much smaller with an atmosphere more like a county fair, with many participants flying bi-wing, often vintage aircraft or crop dusters. Our house lied under the major flyway from California where the low-flying planes flew over the Sierra Nevada mountain range. I was so fascinated by all these planes, some colorfully painted. RIP to the brave flyers whose lives were lost over the years. G forces are a thing that must be reckoned with, with military pilots even wearing pressure suits to prevent blackouts. I don’t know if this would have been possible in this poor man’s case.
@rocketscienceinstituteinc8993
@rocketscienceinstituteinc8993 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent journalism--as always--swiftly, accurately, and factually shared by an aviation expert. Thank you Captain Browne.
@MaxQ2989
@MaxQ2989 2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis. I’m a retired USAF Physiologist and spend years teaching GLOC, flying w/g’s and riding 9g centrifuges: training required! 😂Also was on mishap investigation boards. GLOC was a serious issue and especially when the F-16 Vipers (9g rapid onset) went operational. Really curious if these guys get any repetitive/periodic g training. Also, curious why YT would demonetize over aircraft accident videos: they are all over YT and the net. Thanks again!
@bjs2022
@bjs2022 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t see the frame-by-frame analysis of one video that appeared to be aileron failure/detachment? Ah, you did, thanks. I suspect you are right and maybe it’s a combination of both. The quick high G impaired him and it also caused the aileron separation.
@zenonpiotrowski4425
@zenonpiotrowski4425 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the detailed analysis of situations like this. Sorry to hear Mr. Hogue lost his life in this accident. Thank you for keeping us novices informed as to how and why these crashes happen.
@onebridge7231
@onebridge7231 2 жыл бұрын
These races really get the competitive spirit and adrenaline flowing, but it’s always sad to see a loss of life at these events.
@TakingOff
@TakingOff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan for the explanation. Praying for the Hogue family.
@dipling.pitzler7650
@dipling.pitzler7650 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Reno race has the same problem as the TT race on the Island of Man, started with prop driven 200 HP or less planes respectively 10 HP bikes ending with 4000 HP jets and 250 HP bikes. Is a Trophy really worth dying for?
@velvetrooster5569
@velvetrooster5569 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear a racers perspective on this nice video. My dad was FAA 1 inspector in charge of the Reno Air Races for 10 years including 2011 and he he said the redesigned course that he made after the 2011 crash had a maximum of 4 G’s on the course for Jets and Unlimited planes. My dad told me his thoughts about what happened from his 50 plus years as an aviation expert witness and crash investigator. You appear to be an experienced pilot and I really appreciate your perspective. Thanks for the video.
@bullthrush
@bullthrush 2 жыл бұрын
If the aileron was in the process of separating from the wing, it could have contributed to the over-control leading to the g-loc.
@stefanschutz5166
@stefanschutz5166 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Amsterdam, Juan. Very instructive. I attended the races twice, so took a special interest.
@wendellb36
@wendellb36 2 жыл бұрын
In 1998 Bob Hannah was racing Voodoo when the elevator torque tube broke and a 9g climb uncommaded to 9,000 feet Blacked him out and he recovered and landed
@airgliderz
@airgliderz 2 жыл бұрын
Once again a very professional presented accident analysis. Wasn't there on board live video, this will be a key piece of information.
@theadventuresofjavier8698
@theadventuresofjavier8698 2 жыл бұрын
I was there the day before. First time for my wife. She was in shock when I told her the news. We watched the gentleman mount up on Saturday. Come Sunday he’s gone. Rest In Peace. My first time back since 99 when I watched miss Ashley 2 have it’s accident.
@centralcoastcamper9631
@centralcoastcamper9631 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Aaron Hogue's plane at the last Wings and Wheels car show at the Paso Robles war birds museum. He buzzed his jet over the field a few times and impressed the hot rod crowd very much. That plane was fast ! My heart and prayers go out to the family and friends of Aaron Hogue. Thanks for reporting Juan.
@ricm96
@ricm96 2 жыл бұрын
A possible solution might be to disqualify anybody who does a 180 degree change in bank angle during the race. Or anybody who goes canopy to canopy.
@kilojeromesmith4488
@kilojeromesmith4488 2 жыл бұрын
Sad day for everyone who love to fly. Jaun you are a true pro at making us beginners understand a lot of very important things
@mike747436
@mike747436 2 жыл бұрын
Another possibility...he was focussed on his position relative to the other aircraft and the racecourse and consequently lost SA relative to the ground. I've been there myself in military low level evasion training, but I was fortunate enough to have a second pilot in my back seat that day who called it.
@KO-pk7df
@KO-pk7df 2 жыл бұрын
After the news reported this I waited until your video came out to find out what happened. Most news etc. are just lacking any real information. Thanks for your skill and experience at making these videos for us.
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