The second harp resonated in me big time. It sounded more richer than the first. You play so beautifully. You make it look so effortless.
@pedroleung1977Ай бұрын
😊THANK YOU SALVI IS HIGH Frequency
@karenerickson12564 жыл бұрын
I havd the Ogden number 544 for years. They only get better with time.I went to the factory in Chicago tried style of harp they had. The Ogden stole my heart.
@ExcelsiorW8 жыл бұрын
I just fell into possession accidentally/providencially of a Lyon and Healy Troubadour IV. I told someone who plays and her reply was that L&H were "not her favourite." This vid has helped to remind me that I fall in love with their sound every time I hear them no matter what anybody else says!
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+ExcelsiorW Yes, everyone has their own opinion :) I'm so glad you're happy with yours! Enjoy it. xx
@stephenbianco21464 жыл бұрын
Definitely a difference. The Salvi has a "brighter" tone vs. the L&H that has a "warmer" deeper tone. So many variables that present themselves with the harp's actual construction and materials, esp. the soundboard. I would think it is about one's preference in sound they want from the harp. I have a L&H Troubadour C I bought back in 1977. It has been from Minnesota, to Calif., to Maui for 30 yrs., and now in Oregon for 13 yrs. So, it has been exposed to many varied climates and humidity levels. It has survived well and has a wonderful tone I think primarily from being in Hawaii and the stable humidity level that is there. I believe the spruce soundboard reflects the years of seasoning in Hawaii, hence the very nice tone it presents.
@andrewcordle2424 Жыл бұрын
To improve the flexibility and resonance I changed the third through the fifth octave to folk harp gut strings and had it deregulated. The desired results were achieved by doing this.
@susansuits98515 жыл бұрын
I favor the Ogden. I'm grateful to say, I've been fortunate enough to have one to use for the next few months while I begin learning. You've inspired me!
@chavaleah44 жыл бұрын
L & H without a doubt!! Thanks!! But both are excellent harps to me. I am taking my time deciding on which floor harp to buy, if I only can find a second hand L & H at a reasonable price. I am saving up as much as i can. Thanks for all your videos that are wonderful and I, of course, subscribed and will keep watching. Thanks again.
@andyandeloda10 жыл бұрын
The L&H sounds a bit more full and deep. I like it much better. :)
@edwardmorton66913 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about harps but I know you play them very well indeed. The second harp sounded more refined to my ears. The melody notes stood out more and the overall sound was richer and chocolaty. It felt luxurious. I hope you enjoy it.
@lloydbarker68434 жыл бұрын
You did GREAT job with Greensleeves; I can only imagine what you're capable of now! Keep it going!
@JulieGaulke10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you (using only my computer speaker at this point), the L&H has a more warm, full sound, which I prefer as well. Even on a piano, I prefer warm rather than bright. I will listen again with headphones and see how it sounds. Glad you are enjoying your new baby!
@allisonwood7859 жыл бұрын
You are adorable! :) My son (12 years old) is just starting to explore the harp after playing the flute for the last year in his middle school band and private lessons. Today he took his first harp lesson! I agree with you on this video, I prefer the richer, more resonant sound of the L&H harp. You play beautifully and I will encourage my son to tune in to your channel to see more of your videos!
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your lovely comment! All the best for your son's lessons. How did the first lesson go? I hope he grows to love the harp, I'm completely hooked! :)
@EezeeListen9 жыл бұрын
I love the harp, but have never seen a lever harp played (always a pedal harp), and I admire how you have to deftly switch the levers (I thought changing a coupler on accordion was hard enough!)
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
***** Hi Mike! Thanks for the compliments, it is a fun instrument to play :) I've never tried playing an accordion but I would love to try, it seems so interesting to me!
@sumanamjs10 жыл бұрын
'Greensleeves' is so typical of Baroque. And this was a very pleasing effort. I thought the L&H sounded better. It was consistently brighter across the range, and had better resonance. Like all wood-based instruments, I expect that it to sound better the more it is played. Acclimatisation too is a factor to consider. You seem happy to have a harp of your own, finally. Here's wishing you much joy!
@Nelsonbrook339 жыл бұрын
My vote's definitely for the Ogden. L&H has done a great job with this 34-string harp (compared to its predecessor, the Folk Harp). The Ogdens I've played have been very warm and even. I've also compared the L&H Prelude to the Salvi Ana. There is less contrast with these larger lever harps, but I still find the L&H to be a bit warmer and with more depth. I have also played some very good L&H Troubadours. I own a Troubadour I that I've re-strung in gut. It was retrofitted with Truitt levers, and it's one of the best lever harps I've ever played. Thank you for sharing your music with us!
@Karma_coolee Жыл бұрын
I find the Salvi to have better definition..
@stephenbianco21465 жыл бұрын
I have a L&H Troubadour C that I bought new for $760 in 1978 in Minneapolis, MN. It went with me to several states and we ended up in Maui for 30 years. Unfortunately, my harp sat idle and untuned for probably 36 of it's 41 years. While on Maui, the tuning pins started freezing up and the ends would twist off when I tried to tune it. Replacement pins didn't work as this was a problem that I found out was inherent to many Troubadours from the factory. I had good intentions to have it repaired and had several conversations with Stephen Fritzman at L&H who said they could fix it, just send it to him. Well, I moved to Oregon in 2007 and in 2014, I fully retired and as a present to myself I decided to finally get my beloved harp repaired and start playing again. Stephen Fritzman was still at L&H so I gave him a call. He remembered me and laughed saying "are you finally going to send your harp in". I did, and Stephen took good care of me. All the pins were replaced and new tuning levers were installed. They had to actually drill all the old pin holes out, fill them with a special epoxy, then re-drill the holes and install the new tuning pins. The harp came back good as new with new strings and ready to be played. The repairs cost me $1,800, but was worth it to me as it was "my harp". I have since started lessons again although I lament the years that passed that would have easily gotten me pass my current advanced beginner stage. The older L&H Troubadour harps were very "solid" harps. I always say they built it like a tank. I mean for all that it has been through, everything is still straight and sounds wonderful. I suspect that the years in Hawaii and the perfect humidity seasoned the wood further in a way that the sound and resonance is really quite distinct and rich. It is great to still have my old friend with me, sharing with me the beauty and sound of a harp.
@nienkehuijbens3016 жыл бұрын
i've had a salvi aïda for ten years, ever since i started playing. It has been a great and reliable harp for as long as i've had it, and after ten years (it's second hand) it has barely aged. I must say i prefer a slightly warmer sound, so maybe if i were to buy a lever harp now i would go for something closer to the lion and healy in the video. but after having it for so long i can't help but love it anyway :)
@pbrawdy17 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the L&H, but understand the string tension being more difficult to play too. thanks!
@karenerickson12564 жыл бұрын
Not really its just what your use to.
@jondoes82224 жыл бұрын
I love the Ogden..
@jondoes82226 жыл бұрын
The Ogden. I hope to get one in the future.
@karenerickson12564 жыл бұрын
Please get it you will never regret it. I have number 544. Nothing in the world compares to the sound of a L H
@nejlepsipikolistka8 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Just what I needed to watch! Thanks for helping.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Hallie Chandola Glad I could help! I've written an update in the description box now (just a few minutes ago) with more observations since I've been playing the Ogden for over a year now.
@vehrkalia7 жыл бұрын
I definately love the Ogden's sound, it's richer and warmer and makes me shiver... I love it! Salvi has also a good sound but I feel it less deeper and I like when I feel the harp sounds deeply in my chest. It's like it could touch my soul. :-)
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Totally!! That's definitely a strength of the Ogden.
@meks0407 жыл бұрын
As a bass player and sound technician I must admit that the L&H ogden does have a fuller bodied mid and low range sound, the higher register may not be as crisp as de salvey aida but that overal sound of the L&H is way more too my liking. That being said I must admit I know absolutely nothing about harps and playing them. but you hve made me curious so I will investigate!
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! How did you happen to come across my video?
@meks0407 жыл бұрын
Well, It started with a nightly search on the google for mr. sandman. Then I found your a-capella collab video. The rest is history.
@olive4naito5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for this information. Do you find that this is a fair comparison between the two makers or is it just just between the Ogden and Aida?
@vglover15873 ай бұрын
Loved the depth of the Lyon & Healy which was the hands down sound winner for me personally over the Salvi. The Salvi had a tighter exacting sound which some people prefer, but the difference it makes on the opera stage, can cost you a Job if a L & H harp auditions. Just my opinion. 😊
@markowenmartin67609 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I play the Ogden as well as the Series 100 Concert Grand. Both have the same pedal gut strings tension and spacing. I use both harps for gigs. I have a pickup on the Ogden and I have used it to play some pretty large venues. A comment about the "feel": The Ogden uses pedal gut strings so, yes, there is more tension to deal with. But on the plus side, it sounds more like a pedal harp then a harp with nylon strings or lever gut strings. Other differences is that the nylon string "rings" longer and the gut strings have a faster tonal decay (like concert pedal harps). So you have to use a slightly different touch. The nylon strung instrument sometimes needs more damping and "stopping" then a gut strung harp. Some folks find it much easier to play really fast passages on a lower tension, nylon harp as well. It is all about what music you are looking to play. You can certainly play those lively jigs and reels on the Ogden but slightly more effort may be required. But it you are looking for a more "classic" sound, go with a gut stung instrument. Another interesting comparison can be made between the larger Prelude and the Salvi Ana. The Prelude is strung with pedal gut and the Ana has a lot more nylon and lever gut. But if you are looking for a lighter sound, the Ana may be what you want. You might find the feel and sound more appropriate for Baroque music and certainly for Irish music. When playing this type of music on a pedal gut instrument you may use a different technique such as p.d.l.t., etc. Good work!
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Mark Owen Martin Thank-you for your thoughts Mark! I appreciate your perspective on the matter. I have found my Ogden to have quite a booming bass that has a slow tonal decay. Sometimes this gives some issues with amplifying the harp and sound engineers have to turn the bass frequencies way down... have you experienced this? :)
@susannekalejaiye43518 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. I enjy comparisons and yours is very nicely done. Currently I'm considering what harp I might "move up to" and the comments that you made are very useful.
@bjspeck4337 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the L&H sound - very resonant and warm toned.
@timothyboyd40578 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insightful comparison! Several years ago I purchased an older L&H Troubadour V, upgraded the strings to gut, and also enjoyed it's lovely and rich tone. After much consideration I decided to risk fluorocarbon strings in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th octaves. The result was even more rich and beautiful ear-catching tones which you would simply have to hear to believe. Conversely, as my fingers are getting older I do see the advantage of playing on the Egan's medium tension strings.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Boyd Oh interesting! I was actually wondering whether it would be worth trying to put nylon strings on my Ogden to make the string tension lower for playing celtic music... but I'm worried to mess around with my instrument in that way because I don't want to risk damaging it. Do you have experience with changing the other way around?
@MsCSCG8 жыл бұрын
+Christy-Lyn's music if you are changing to a lower tension strings that will actually put less strain on the body of the harp. Harps are very strong to withstand hundreds of pounds of string pressure. the worst that would happen is that you break a string and that doesn't damage the harp itself. If you order the strings from Lyon and Healy with the correct lengths it won't be to hard. You can always check with them if you're worried.
@sandrafromm32968 жыл бұрын
+Christy-Lyn's music Hi, I have a L&H Ogden and wanted lighter tension as well. I contacted L&H who recommended that I use the L&H Shamrock strings. With those strings, the harp has a slightly lighter tone, but it's still warm. It's much easier to play the faster Irish/Scottish music. You can always e-mail L&H and ask the question; they are very quick to respond.
@thomasbrown22947 жыл бұрын
I am considering the purchase of the L&H Ogden. I love the look. And, now, I love the sound. Truth to tell, they are quite close in sound, but I prefer the Ogden.
@pearlanderniefamily19558 жыл бұрын
lovely playing
@auriceliaoliveira74158 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I´ve got a Salvi Nicoletta which is also discontinued and I love it. However, comparing the sound now, I´d rather go for the L&H. Also, there is something very important, specially for hot countries like mine (Brazil). Because of the weather here, my harp started to warp a little bit in the soundboard. It was glued twice, but didn´t work. The only way I got it fixed was getting it to a luthier (we don´t have harp luthiers here by the way) and he added some wood corners on the soundboard fixed with screw, so that I did lose the harp. Thanks God is has been more than a year and it defintely worked. Of course it would not be the correct thing to be done, but the cost to send it to USA would be very high. So, I believe tha because of this wood corners the L&H, is definitely more reinforced than Salvi, in my humble opinion, of course.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
Hi Célia! Very interesting comment about the soundboard being more secure - I hadn't thought of that! Thanks for sharing.
@gt_oliver8 жыл бұрын
I have a much older Salvi lever harp that still has the reinforced wood corners, but I see it isn't there with the newer ones of the same model...
@bonniesparks18817 жыл бұрын
Célia, have you considered getting a carbon fiber harp? They sound beautiful and they are immune to humidity and water issues. (The makers (Heartland Harps) have gone so far as to jump into a pool and play in the water!) I have one of their walnut harps, but the Carbon Fiber is one of my dreams since I live in New England and the temperature and humidity fluctuations make tuning a nightmare.
@auriceliaoliveira74157 жыл бұрын
Hi Bonnie! Thank you so much for your comments. Yes, I´ve heard about it and the carbon fiber harp might be just amazing. The only problem for us brazilians, is that a part from the price of this kind of harp, which is much more expensive than the wooden ones, we have to pay 60% of taxes on the price of a harp + shipping when a harp gets in Brazil. I know, it sounds ridiculous, but it´s true, and this makes it almost impossible today for me to get a harp like that. I am happy that my harp is still playing beautifully even with the problems it had in the past. But definitely it would be great to have one of this.
@Utubeuser0007 жыл бұрын
A fellow brazilian, hey! About taxes, I share your feelings... Actually that's what's been keeping me from starting with the harp. I live in Bahia, so expensive taxes to import the instrument, and no teachers around, even for someone who wants to learn how to play it as a hobby, like me. I'm saving money to get one though. Happy to see someone that will understand the struggles I have trying to be a harpist. Saudações da Bahia!
@renskegerritsen15804 жыл бұрын
I have a Lyon & Healy Ogden and the sound is awsome😍
@LearningtheHarp4 жыл бұрын
Great! 😃
@sandragayle58639 жыл бұрын
OK, I take it the Lyon &Healy is your new harp, as you did not say which harp was your harp. I also play the harp and I will say this. it is so nice to see our American harps played around the world. I like the Lyon & Healy not because I'm American but because the sound is special. I don't have a Lyon & Healy my harp is beautiful and also have a warm sound. it's the Marion harp by Stoney End Harps. my lap harp is also made by them the Eve lap harp. thanks so much and enjoy your harp.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Sandra Gayle Yes, the Ogden is my own harp, sorry I didn't mention it! You can see it in all the videos I've posted since this one, if you're interested :)
@genay339 жыл бұрын
I. Can hear the difference. My next harp will be either a L & H or a Pratt Chamber Harp thank you for posting.
@peterpascone694211 ай бұрын
Oh i love the sound of the Ogden!
@greenwillow54043 жыл бұрын
Bought my Salvi Aida in 1985 and am still in love with it. L &H sounded lovely too, but wondering is it quite fair to compare a newly strung harp to one that has older strings? You played so beautifully! Thank you for this video.
@LearningtheHarp3 жыл бұрын
New strings do make a difference but it’s fairly subtle, unless the strings are absolutely ancient. I think most of the difference you’re hearing in the video is the difference between the two harps. But very good question! 👌🏻
@greenwillow54043 жыл бұрын
@@LearningtheHarp Thamk you so much for your reply!
@LunaCryptic9 жыл бұрын
I definitely like the fuller, warmer tones of the Ogden, but it was nice to hear what other harps can do as well. My daughter owns the L&H Ogden and she just loves it!. She just recently auditioned and was accepted as part of an Irish folk band.
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Well done to her! I hope she has a wonderful time making music together :)
@SiljeLiumMusic10 жыл бұрын
I liked the second harp best:) Congratulations with your own harp! I wish I could play like you...:)
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much :)
@ancientspiritmusic9 жыл бұрын
I am partial to the Lyon & Healy Ogden, as this is what I have, and I love it. Both harps are very nice, and I think you made a good choice with the Ogden.
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
ancientspiritmusic Thank-you for your comment! Glad to find another Ogden player :)
@KristenElizabethHarpist9 жыл бұрын
Great review! and performance ;) Looking to buy a lever harp soon and this helped. Thank you!!!
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Kristen Elizabeth Hi Kristen! Have you bought your lever harp? What did you end up choosing? My opinions have changed a bit since this video :)
@KristenElizabethHarpist9 жыл бұрын
***** I decided with an older Lyon & Healy Folk Harp and Troubadour III :)
@SharonCullenArt3 жыл бұрын
I preferred the Ogden. I am also drawn to the warmer sound and I felt the Salvi was a bit weak in the low notes.
@juanitoriveros6929 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the L&H, even though I haven't played an Ogden. When I went to pick out my lever harp, I got to play a few Salvi's and L&H Troubadours, but I chose a Camac Korrigan. I think a lot of it has to do with the companies themselves, but sometimes, certain harps will sound better to you than others. But I'm glad you got your own harp!!! I also own a L&H Chicago CGX and like you said, the L&H's have a very resonant and deep tone.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Juanito Riveros I just realised I know you from Instagram!! Thanks for this comment all those months ago :) I've also found that there is quite a bit of variation between different harp of the same model. My teacher has an Ogden that she ordered at the same time as me - exactly the same model etc - and hers feels quite different to play than mine... I didn't realise there could be such a difference!
@DameSmaragdine8 жыл бұрын
It is exactly what I wanted to say: I've got an Ogden, but she sounds so different!
@anniviasofokleous27113 жыл бұрын
I have a L&H harp i think their the best harp they've got a n amazing sound
@martialharpistmatthew18377 жыл бұрын
I feel like the salvi has a sustain that slightly clouds the melody being played. The ogdens is bold and clear all round. I like the Ogden. I live just an hour from Chicago. I'll make the drive and buy one soon. I Appreciate your video.
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! If you're able to try one out in person, I would highly recommend doing that before you decide on your purchase. It makes such a difference to know what a harp feels like! :) all the best! Let me know when you have your new harp... exciting!!
@martialharpistmatthew18377 жыл бұрын
Christy-Lyn's music sure I'll do that :)
@vehrkalia6 жыл бұрын
I do love sooo much the Ogden, it's my fav harp both with the Dusty Strings'. :-D
@andrewcordle24244 жыл бұрын
The Lyon & Healy although it’s new has a richer resonance to it. The Salvi harps I’ve tried in general the tension is tighter and often indelicate and inflexible with certain types of music. The sound of an instrument of course is very important but also the touch and feel are equally as important. Perhaps next time you can make those comparisons?
@bettertomorrow2625 Жыл бұрын
She mentioned in the description that the Ogden has the higher string tension. Higher even than pedal harps she has played.
@fitfrenzy8 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, were those older strings on the Salvi harp? If the Ogden had been recently acquired in this video, then it likely had newer strings. That would make a difference as well.
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Good point! I'm not sure, but thanks for mentioning that :)
@AnnaMullerintunecoaching8 жыл бұрын
Hi There, I wish I had seen this before purchasing my own harp, but just thought I'd connect as I am a South African harpist living in Australia now. I am sure your new harp will still grow in sound while settling in the new environment. The two harps have both got beautiful tembre though. Thank you for sharing.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
Hi Anna. Thank-you for connecting - it's lovely to hear from you! Yes, my Ogden's sound has grown since this video (almost two years ago now, wow!) and it really does have a lovely tone. What harp do you have? :)
@AnnaMullerintunecoaching8 жыл бұрын
Hi Christy I have a Andrew Thom Graphite harp now.. with a booming sound because of the material it is made of. It is blue too:) My pedal harp is a Camac harp great with an absolutely beautiful harp and black.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
Sounds exciting! I haven't tried either of those harps but I've heard that Camac is good. Hope you're enjoying them! xx
@AnnaMullerintunecoaching8 жыл бұрын
yes I enjoy my harps. My student just bought a Salvi Titan and needs to grow into it as she is so small:)
@ptester16 жыл бұрын
I can't be sure about the tension on the Ogdens, but my daughter's harp teacher told us that the L&H Troubadour, petite pedal and concert grand harps were all designed to have the same string tension, so you could switch from one to another with minimal difficulty.
@user-kh9ki3kq8m7 жыл бұрын
I want to know the difference between the Lyon and Healy Prelude and the Salvi Ana I'm biased towards Lyon and Healy to be honest but I really love them both.
@NapierThompson7 жыл бұрын
I don't know a great deal about harps but I do know that Lyon and Healy are renowned for their high tension strings. Teachers of pedal harp recommend L&H to their students as cheaper practice instruments because their tensioning is a close match for pedal harps. As Celtic harps they are rubbish for this very reason that makes them strong as pedal harp substitutes. So, they are kind of a hybrid between traditional lever and pedal harps. They are their own thing.
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Very well put :)
@이재윤-j4c2 жыл бұрын
34 prefectures, right?
@debiemerson1753 жыл бұрын
Does your Ogden have gut strings or nylon? When I 1st got my Ogden in 2008, it was my favorite out of the many I'd tried. However, the gut strings kept breaking. It got to the point where I just didn't want to play any more as I was sick of replacing stings. Then several years ago, L & H announced that it was ok to us nylon strings on the Ogden (when I 1st got mine, they said so). A friend of mine who is also a luthier offered to switch out the strings for me me & I do notice a slight difference in tone, but it is soooo nice to actually spend my time playing instead of changing strings!
@susansuits98513 жыл бұрын
I rented a Prelude that ate gut strings like candy. I think I replaced 10 or 11 over 15 months. I didn't know if that was to be expected or if it was time for it to be restrung. I m still trying to decide on what kind I would like to buy.
@jenborn53582 жыл бұрын
I have the same Ogden lever harp with gut strings and I have only broken one in 10 months and that was the first week. You must be playing very hard 😉
@darleneperry94813 ай бұрын
I also prefer the Ogden, but I do have one question. What type of strings are on the Ogden? That could make a difference...
@9deoctubre9 жыл бұрын
muy hermoso lo que haces Christy Lyn, Congratulations!. Saludos desde Guayaquil, Ecuador. H MARIO VARGAS
@SweetAncientMelody6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. I love the sound of Ogden! Does Ogden feel to have a higher string tension than Salvi ?
@LearningtheHarp6 ай бұрын
In my opinion Ogden has higher string tension than most lever harps. But the amount of difference does depend on which Salvi you’re comparing to - this one in the video is no longer produced by Salvi.
@SweetAncientMelody6 ай бұрын
@@LearningtheHarp Thank you! I really struggle to choose my future lever harp. The point is that my music school uses Troubadour VI. So I'm kind of bound to high string tension!
@LearningtheHarp6 ай бұрын
Ogden is similar to Troubadour, just fewer strings and smaller soundbox 😊👍🏻
@SweetAncientMelody6 ай бұрын
@@LearningtheHarp Does the soundbox size make a difference to the sound between Ogden and Troubadour?? Thank you!
@LearningtheHarp6 ай бұрын
Yes, generally bigger soundbox = bigger fuller sound.
@rachaelrosenbaum41179 жыл бұрын
I did prefer the Ogden sound. They are both quite nice, but I agree with your assessments.
@valdiobrigedoebomsilva75926 жыл бұрын
MARAVILHOSO WONDERFUL "THANK YOU VERY MUCH" RIO DE JANEIRO
@LearningtheHarp6 жыл бұрын
Pleasure!! Do you also play the harp? :)
@ritaconroy1729 Жыл бұрын
Lyon & Healy all the way!
@jennhill87086 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the L&H to the Salvi in tone & timbre. Much better/warmer tone. Beautiful.
@scottouellette-harpistcomp79746 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm in the process of searching for my first lever harp, but I might be going with Dusty Strings. I did watch the entire video, well done! I like the Lyon & Healy a little more.
@LearningtheHarp6 жыл бұрын
Oh I see, this is exciting!! What makes you drawn to Dusty Strings? 😃
@scottouellette-harpistcomp79746 жыл бұрын
Two things....the tone, and the looks!! I'm scheduled to try out a couple next week in my hometown. A place called The Harp Connection.
@LearningtheHarp6 жыл бұрын
That's very exciting!! I'd love to hear what you think about the comparison between the harps. I don't get much opportunity to try out different harps on this side of the world, so it's always helpful to hear :)
@scottouellette-harpistcomp79746 жыл бұрын
Hi Christy-Lyn! I tried the Ravenna 26 today and loved it!! It projected nicely, and felt great under my fingertips. It's also a very attractive looking harp. I'm going to buy it soon!
@LearningtheHarp6 жыл бұрын
Let me know when it arrives, Scott! That super exciting :) :)
@omarkassem44105 жыл бұрын
I am considering buying a Dusty Strings Ravenna 34 vs the Lyon and Healy Ogden, and this review is very helpful to me. I would prefer lower tension strings so I think the Ravenna would be the better choice. Do you know of other harps that are similar to the Ravenna I should also consider?
@rhopen7 жыл бұрын
The second harp for sure :o) -Ron
@ladakaraskova54748 жыл бұрын
I've had Ogden since I was 8 and the tension never seemed to be a problem for me. I guess I have very strong hands!:D
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Lada Karasková Yes your hands must be strong! :D Well done. It also depends on how fast you're trying to play - I only experience frustration with very fast passages.
@huwboucher70939 жыл бұрын
Hi christy! That sounds great! I also play pedal harp!! I have been playing for 2 years now I am grade 7 (abrsm). I would like it if you could post more on harp (if that is possible)!??!?! Good luck for the future, kind regards Huwx
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Huw Boucher Hi Huw. Thanks for your comment, sorry for the late reply! I am certainly planning to record more harp videos soon, so stick around :)
@sadlymusic9 жыл бұрын
I'm not able with harp, also if i like play guitar trying to do in a similar harp way.. I often use a baby guitar (for intro in my vids), and that sound is like a harp (so i have done even quite songs, laterly uploaded).. Have you, Lyn really listen to some my compositions..? Some of which are fit for harp (above all, in my last uploadeing).. At now i'm impartial between liking.. I well know that any depend by touch (so for any guitar.. but almost professionists, for me, they haven't emotive touch.. they play always in the same manner by partiture, not by emotive transport..).. I image as many problem being with a harp.. so, just for six cords there are many problems of resonance by harmonics and accordature (any guitar can't be perfectly tuned in all range..).. Then, i say this, as by emotive songwriter.. to any music must be associated only a timbre voice, also if the difference each other instrument could be not much.. As happened to me.. the simple sound by a steel normal guitar, in use, you could feel it, as by conventional electric sound by touch.. So, in the same.. i do arranging using a flute by oak, that it seems as the high sing of a woman (even, for bit little modulation by a low note (of two instruments), you could do appear as male voice, as i did..really so similar to my monotone modulated voice, even..strange..).. As you Lyn teacher to me, for harp, it needs delicacy and sweetness in touching, but also (for solo part), a very incisive strong touch.. However, i like both the sound of two harps L&H.. Bye !!
@NilsMoeckel10 жыл бұрын
I liked the new one better, too. Have fun with it!
@LearningtheHarp10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nils. I will, indeed! It's so exciting to have my very own harp now :)
@jashton87107 жыл бұрын
L&H has a slightly richer sound. It also looks as though it has a wider sound board.
@orionspero5607 ай бұрын
Is there a good harp on the other side of the L&H? My feeling is. It would be good to have a harp as far on the other side
@eolaspellor17187 жыл бұрын
I like the tone of the L&H much better. In general, I prefer fuller, warmer toned instruments to bright, crisp ones. I haven't played either of these harps, but I did build a harp, many years ago.
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that's so cool that you've built a harp!
@Feriwitch2502 жыл бұрын
I am learning on a Salvi and do love the tone, however I geel the L&H has a richer tone.
@gt_oliver9 жыл бұрын
I also play on the Salvi Aida harp. But I have the older model with extra features. Are you from South Africa?
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Great, do you like your Aida? Thanks for your comment. Yip, I'm from Cape Town, South Africa :)
@gt_oliver9 жыл бұрын
Oh i just heard you said Cape Town... I bought my Salvi from someone in Blue Horizon bay in East Cape. I love it, but don't know at all the lever Lyon & Healy harps as my tutor has a L & L pedal harp, which was the only one I played on. Also I'm releasing an album soon that I'll record in Pretoria / Seoul. Please check it out soon. Groete. Gerdes Olivier
@gt_oliver9 жыл бұрын
Gerdes Olivier Oh by the way, you play beautifully! :)
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Gerdes Olivier Good to find a fellow SA harpist on KZbin :) My opinion of the L&H Ogden has changed a bit since I made this video. At times I find the tension is a bit much - especially for fast passages. I like the tone but it's not the best for every style of piece. Oh well, you can't have everything! Please let me know when you release your album, I'd love to take a listen. Do you take harp with Ingrid at Avondale? She imported my harp for me :) Thanks for complimenting my playing, it's kind of you! Blessings xx
@gt_oliver9 жыл бұрын
Hi Christy-Lyn. No, I've met Ingrid before, but I took lessons in Pretoria. I also play Paraguayan harp but that's a bit different.I'd like to try the L& L lever harps or Aoyama ones when in Seoul. Do you want me to send you a link to my page? God Bless!
@brentbreault76066 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Luon and Healy. I prefer its sound, not to mention the lever change are nearly silent.
@alpineorchid62072 жыл бұрын
I cant comment on what it felt like to play , or the difficulties therein, but I definitely liked the sound of the Land H harp for this song, the strumming held the notes with more clarity and overall liked the tones better. Sorry Selby.
@Calamaistr10 жыл бұрын
the second harp has a fuller resonance i think, like it bounces across the room. the other one is slightly clearer/sharper. I personally prefer the second, but i also feel compelled to say youre a beautiful harpist, again. You play so natural, do you never feel pressure/stress when you record? Cause if so you dont make it sound. :)
@LearningtheHarp10 жыл бұрын
Hi again Cal. I agree with your summary, and thanks for the compliments! To answer your question: my teacher emphasises often that I must not be tense when I play, so I try to abide by that principle. I practice the harp for a few hours each day, so when I know a piece well it does feel quite natural! I do sometimes find it stressful to record (especially when I am tired or the weather is hot or when I am disturbed by noises or visitors). I often have to do many takes before I have the final recording, so sometimes that it tiring and I do find myself tensing up... but practicing the piece a lot before the video helps because then I need fewer takes before I get a good one :) Ultimately I should be able to do a good recording in one take because that's how it goes with a live performance, but it doesn't always turn out that way ;) Did I answer your question properly? Thanks for being interested in my music xx
@Calamaistr10 жыл бұрын
Sure you answerred properly :) I always feel tense when im recording, but still upload my full of mistakes take cause it costs batteries still (cant find a proper camera that runs on a plug where i live yet) Your recordings always feel so relaxed. ^^ I also practice my guitar skills alot every day and can feel myself improving every time so yeah, practice makes perfect in a sense. ;) Greets! And thanks for answerring. p.s. Im always interested in good music.
@racisisis4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Ogden sound!
@JosSae211 ай бұрын
Which Salvi and strings do you compare?
@vehrkalia2 жыл бұрын
Hi Christy! Do you think the Salvi is better than the Ogden for playing celtic music? I definitely prefer the sound of the Ogden, but I am not a classical student, I wish to learn playing celtic songs. Thanks as always, you are really gret! 💜
@LearningtheHarp2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I do like the Ogden, but if you want to play Celtic music I don’t think it’s the best choice. Both Salvi and L&H have harps that are better for Celtic music. For example the Una and Donegal by Salvi, and the Drake by L&H. Out of the 3 I’ve only tried the Una and I really liked it, but I can’t say how it compares to the other 2. Having said that, if you really want a serious Celtic harp I would definitely consider looking into other harp makers too - depending on your budget you can get something really amazing from the harp makers who make folk harps as their main thing. For example Thormahlen is one of my favourites (the Ceili is lightweight and a popular choice), and I love Starfish harps, or Sligo harps are excellent too. Music Makers makes great Celtic harps too, I love the Jolie. If you can travel to a harp shop or find harp players whose harps you can try, it will really help you to make the choice! Even if you have to drive far, it’s definitely worth it.
@vehrkalia2 жыл бұрын
@@LearningtheHarp Hi Christy, thanks for answering and for your suggestions, I did not know about the Sligo harps, I'll search for infos! Well, my budget would be max €3500. Living in Italy unfortunately would be difficult to me to order from outside Italy, so even if I think the thormahlen are wonderful harps I cannot consider them and other harp makers. I don't think that for my first harp a blind buy would be a good choice. Here in Italy usually harpists buy Salvi and Camac. I like Salvi quite enough, but definitely I don't like the Camac sound even if both would be on my budget. On the other hand via Salvi shop I could buy the Lyon and healy harps, which I REALLY like. But my favorite above all are the Dusty Strings that sadly are way too expensive for me. But since I love the warm, rich and deep sounds, I've thought that the Ogden may be the better alternative. I have listened to the new drake also, which is really pretty, but I don't like this biocarbon sound, and guess if it could be possible ti change the strings... Do you know if this is possible? And what do you think about the Dusty Strings? ♥️
@valdiobrigedoebomsilva75926 жыл бұрын
E MUITO BOM PARABÉNS
@vonallen44417 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the helpful video. I previously owned an L&H Troubadour 3. I'm looking for a lighter-tension Celtic harp. Do you have recommendations?
@TheSyoelin9 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact. Although Salvi is manufactured in Italy and L&H in the US, they're actually both owned by the same people.
@sheryleevermaak66075 жыл бұрын
Stopped dead when I heard "Cape Town in South Africa" :D. I live in South Africa too (Pretoria), but I imagine it will be difficult to find a harp teacher here.
@LearningtheHarp5 жыл бұрын
Yay for fellow South Africans! 🙌🏻 There are a few harp teachers on your side of the world. Contact Ingrid at Avondale Harps (Google it) and she’ll help you find a teacher! 👍🏻
@sheryleevermaak66075 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll definitely try that!
@arturog.58677 жыл бұрын
By the way, are you German?, your accent sounds so German. I think you will like the "Cantiga 1 of Alfonso X el Sabio" and "Rabenballade". You can play both with a harp :)
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Nope, I'm South African :) Thanks for the recommendations! I'll check it out.
@EternalArrow10 жыл бұрын
The second one sounds nice!
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eternity! I think so too :)
@huwboucher70939 жыл бұрын
hi christy I think your great at harp I play as well! How long have you been playing? also what grade are you? Good luck for future
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Huw Boucher Hi Huw. Thanks for your interest - lovely to meet another fellow harpist! I have been playing harp since August 2013; just over a year and a half now. I have experience with other instruments so I progressed very quickly. I'm now playing Grade 5 pieces (ABRSM) on the pedal harp because my teacher is a classical harpist and doesn't have any more advanced pieces for me to learn on the lever harp. So I still perform on the lever harp but I'm learning on pedal harp so I can keep on moving forward. It's been an exciting journey so far! When did you start learning?
@MsCSCG8 жыл бұрын
Lovely playing and I agree that the Ogden is a nicer sound. It's mellower and fuller. I just wanted to find out if you have purchased a harp for celtic music yet? I have a locally made celtic harp here in Australia and i want to purchase a larger harp as mine is only 27 strings and I want to advance with Celtic music. What harp do you think is good for Irish music?
@ExcelsiorW8 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact, the Lyon and Healy Ogden played in this vid is wonderful for Celtic (Irish, Scottish, Welsh, and Cornish)! That's what my friend has. She does performances and it sounds amazing!
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Chloe Hi Chloe! Nope, I'm still saving up... I'm considering Paul Fisher harps because I've heard they're the best and I really like recordings made with those harps, but I don't know anyone in South Africa with a Fisher harp, and I'd like to try playing one before purchasing... but we'll see. It'll take me a while to save the money! I also know Starfish and Thormahlen harps are also great for celtic music, but I haven't had the opportunity to try playing any of these brands. There isn't much of a celtic harp community over here, so I'm having to do the research on my own!
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+ExcelsiorW Yes, I do play celtic music on my Ogden and it sounds nice, but the high tension of the strings limits how fast I can play, compared to nylon string celtic harps I played when I went to Scotland on holiday.
@MsCSCG8 жыл бұрын
+Christy-Lyn's music I just spoke to an Irish girl that I met here in Australia when she was a guest at a folk festival to do workshops. She recommended Fisher harps as well so I think they are pretty good. I had a listen on their website and they sound very nice. Unfortunately, the shipping alone from Canada to Australia would cost $600 plus the $7500 for the harp so it's a very pricing endeavour as I'm sure your aware. I'm probably going to resort to making my own with the plans for the Regency harp on harpkits.com. I've made a small harp already with success so I'll post a video when this one is made.
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Chloe Ok, pity. Yes, I'm performing often enough that it's worth saving up for the best, but it is really expensive when you have to ship the harp across the world!! My Ogden cost about 1/3 of the price again to ship it to Cape Town from Chicago. Another option for you might be Dusty Strings? I know they are very popular in the States. I have tried one and the sound was lovely; the tension is good for Celtic music. There are lots of different price categories so you might find one to suit you? Xx
@chrisstudiono79 жыл бұрын
Try the Salvi Livia one day! It is a much nicer sounding Salvi lever harp , and kicks the Ogden's butt!
@LearningtheHarp8 жыл бұрын
+Chris van der Westhuizen I'd love to try! I have played a Salvi pedal harp before and it was lovely.
@truthful37773 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a lever harp in action till today. The flipping of switches is liken to a pilot fiddling the switches above the cockpit. Can't harp have non switching levers? It looks weird to me harpist have to fiddle with levers...it look so un-harpist
@jenborn53582 жыл бұрын
There are harps that don’t have levers, those are called Pedal Harps. You change the “key” of the note with your feet instead of your hands. Pedal Harps can be 4 to 5 times the cost of a lever harp and not something a beginner or even an intermediate player would start with. All Harps are beautiful ☺️
@marvinperry53759 жыл бұрын
I am also in that position of wanting to move up to a BETTER harp than what I am using. I had never heard a Salvi nor a L&H played side by side comparison before. I agree with everyone else that the L&H sounds better, but I am also concerned about your comment (tension) of having to pull harder on the strings. I am wondering WHY you chose the Lyon & Healy - - what researching did you do to finally decide on the Ogden? I had been looking for a used Salvi Prima 38. Right now, my research has been swayed by your video, and I am looking to find a used Prelude 40 or Ogden.
@LearningtheHarp9 жыл бұрын
Marvin Perry Hi Marvin. Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I missed your comment! My research was limited by the fact that there are very few lever harps in Cape Town (South Africa) - we have to import harps from overseas and it is very pricey. I would have liked to try playing a few different harps before making my decision, but I had to just work with the advice I was given and my limited experience playing different harps. So if you have the opportunity to try out a few different makes of harps I would definitely do that! I would have liked to try Dusty Strings, Starfish, Aoyama, Triplett etc. I was very interested in the Crescendo by Dusty Strings, but I couldn't find one in South Africa to try, and I wasn't brave enough to order it without trying it myself. All the best with your researching and decision making! I hope you find a harp you are happy with :)
@marvinperry53759 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for your reply. I also have had little opportunities to play harps, other than the Camac and Rees Harps... I have relied totally on my instructor's recommendations. So my final selection came down to the Camac harp. When I inquired about purchasing one, the music store recommended the ISOLDE model which they had just received on the floor and they loved it. The one they received was a Celtic configuration and I wanted a Classic which uses a heavier Fluorocarbon strings with Concert tension, so I have placed an order and will have to wait until June before I can pick it up. Dusty Strings is just across the bay from me, but I avoided going into downtown Seattle to try one, because they are overpriced (in my opinion) and they had a higher tension on the strings than I am use to, plus I would have had an additional 9.5 percent sales tax to pay - - that's enough to buy a very nice transporting case for my Isolde.
@arturog.58677 жыл бұрын
Oh, you were blessed by Apolo and Afrodita at the same time.
@olive4naito5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@highjumper21110 жыл бұрын
Bravo c'est vraiment très beau !
@hyousefi38357 жыл бұрын
Hey Christy , I'm getting ready to become harp student at university of music, did you play piano before you start harp?
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
a traveler on the road Hi there! Yes, I played piano from when I was 7 years old but only started harp as an adult. It's not necessary to play piano first, but it does make your learning much faster than a beginner harpist with no musical background. But you can learn to play the harp without piano background.
@hyousefi38357 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm taking piano lesson but I don't think I can finish the book before I start my harp classes, thanks for brands, I look them up.
@kastellorizo17 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know. Did you find a harp that is better suited to playing Celtic music? Can you recommend any?
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Yes! I don't have one myself, but I know of some good Celtic harp makers - some that I have played and some that have come highly recommended from professional Celtic harpists I've spoken to. Many people say the best Celtic harps are from Larry Fisher in Canada, then Scottish harpist Maeve Gilchrist loves Thormahlen harps, many great harpists including Rachel hair play Starfish harps made in Scotland. Other good Celtic harp makers are Dusty Strings or Camac harps. All the best!
@kastellorizo17 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That is very helpful. I will look into those :-)
@AbigailPoirier10 жыл бұрын
The L&H has a bigger, fuller sound. Less brittle than the Salvi. It's not the Salvi actually sounded brittle, that's just the best word I could come up with.
@LearningtheHarp10 жыл бұрын
I agree! Interesting word choice ;) Thanks for your comment, Abigail!
@maryvu68065 жыл бұрын
Christy could you please provide the information on where you bought your harp?
@LearningtheHarp5 жыл бұрын
I bought my harp from a harp shop here in South Africa.
@LearningtheHarp5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you should watch my video called “Buying a harp: everything you need to know”. I think it will help you make a decision about which harp to buy, and where to buy it.
@johnberndtorstenjohn12834 жыл бұрын
The Room wasn't good for the sound. The first harp which was played has been a warm fine sound. I think also about it... But for a better sound a hall can be a room who spend a fine music where the instrument so good like there real been.....
@antaramvsica6 жыл бұрын
the salvi harp is titan model?
@LearningtheHarp6 жыл бұрын
No, it's the Aida. It's been discontinued... :(
@megaman4155 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I was thinking of just getting a semi-grand. All the lever changes in the song make it seem so much harder than pedals.
@hyousefi38357 жыл бұрын
Also what brand are these two harps?
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
a traveler on the road They are made by Salvi and Lyon & Healy.
@gt_oliver7 жыл бұрын
Hi Christy Lyn. I also play the Salvi Aida and Paraguayan harp. Will you be at all interested to meet and talk about harps. If possible Ill bring my Triplett. Regards GT
@LearningtheHarp7 жыл бұрын
Hi GT. That's great, I'd love to meet you and your harps. Are you in Cape Town?
@gt_oliver7 жыл бұрын
Christy-Lyn's music Hi Christy-Lyn. no Im based in Pretoria but visit Cape Town sometimes.