來評一下 新買的鍵盤 EVGA Z15 (Clicky軸）

[@TEDAPP]

注音打那麼快！😱 強強強 ！！！！👍軸體是我看過少數KZbin介紹那麼專業的

[@chsnote]

哈哈，打字速度還算可以吧😅

[@wl50451]

我很難得看到影片對於某一鍵盤型號介紹的這麼詳細欸! 影片內容品質優良!!! 已按讚!

[@chsnote]

耶！感謝支持！

[@EvgadarrenCHEN]

第一次看到這麼專業又詳細的鍵盤開箱文！ 前幾天趁大哥週年慶 以990不含運入手 感覺賺到啦

[@waynecheng6588]

加一，一直以來都是用薄膜鍵盤，這次真的捏不住加入了機械鍵盤的行列 超爽

[@chsnote]

感謝支持！ 以 Z15 的規格，千元有找的優惠價，真的是很超值

[@waynecheng6588]

@@chsnote 電源影片也很讚😆

[@nlnloeoguo9908]

就喜歡這種細緻一點的評測 順便問一下我手上這把K61M感覺搖晃程度有點大 是普遍都這樣還是我單純我手上這把的問題呢？

[@chsnote]

感謝觀看。 K61M 應該是高特軸的對吧？通常晃動度會大一點，但軸體的晃動個人覺得不一定是缺點。 卡榫比較精準的軸，移動的時候必須直上直下，打起來比較容易卡手；如果是有一點可以晃動的範圍，按壓角度不同的時候，比較不卡手。例如：帶一點角度去戳上排的F1-F12，手容易斜斜的去按，可能按在邊上在滑到靠近中心的位置往下觸發，如果是低晃動精準的軸，手就需要移動到比較上面一點，直上直下按精準位置的按，比較不會手指刮鍵帽邊緣那種感覺。這種晃動度喜好比較看個人，不見得是好是壞。 如果對比櫻桃軸，凱華一般軸、快速軸晃動大一點點，高特軸更大一點，如果比櫻桃晃動度小一點的，有像是凱華的BOX軸、TTC部分軸，軸心有向上延伸的設計的，下壓的時候軸心向上延伸的部分，會貼著殼的上蓋往下滑，所以更穩定一點。

[@nlnloeoguo9908]

@@chsnote 了解了解 非常感謝解惑 現在如此專業的youtuber真的少見了 不紅真的沒道理 請持續加油!!!

[@CaiSm5]

挖賽，好詳細，本來看到厚金軸的描述還想說阿不就是最近很流行的提前大段落有聲版嗎，查了才發現原來一般的提前大段落的觸發位置也沒提前只有段落位置提前而已😅

[@chsnote]

哈哈，這是凱華出蠻久的快速軸

[@CuiWei-w3p]

謝謝，影片講解滿實用的

[@user-ql7cc6vq6c]

第一把機械鍵盤就是這個!我是買speed silver版本的，入坑後經過一番研究，花了一些時間對它進行大改造，首先衛星軸不行，換了腹靈cmmk衛星軸，軸體換成ktt酒紅換52g雙段彈簧厚潤，大鍵用墨玉黑(要剪腳有點心痛)，各種消音棉就都不加了，直接墊毛巾在下面就了事了，鍵帽換成akko asa鍵帽 改造成本大約是1500(其實鍵帽佔了1000塊，可以用更便宜的) ，總之因為鍵盤本身結構屬於電競鍵盤，滿足不了客製化需求，所以還是換掉了，不過這把鍵盤還是充滿著回憶

[@chsnote]

大大在鍵盤花不少心思呀！DIY 真的是大坑，除了衛星軸、鍵帽、軸體都不便宜，如果是客製化鍵盤本體也是不便宜，所以我都不敢入坑，量產鍵盤用用我就很滿足了，哈哈

[@user-ql7cc6vq6c]

@@chsnote 是的 入坑鍵圈是非常危險的行為 請勿輕易嘗試

[@湟勝徐]

請問大大，這把鍵盤如果去購買 Cherry MX RGB透光軸可以裝上去嗎？剛入坑機械鍵盤很多還不太懂～

[@chsnote]

裝不上去，會被led貼片卡到。 我還有特地買幾顆試試，cherry mx rgb透光殼下面雖然有開孔，不過比z15上的led貼片還小，z15 led是焊接在電路板上方。 換軸往凱華、佳達隆、TTC等，支援LED貼片的軸，通常會寫支援SMD LED，軸體下方開口留很大。

[@湟勝徐]

@@chsnote 了解了～謝謝大大的回覆，差點就花錢買了，超讚的影片！

[@張致其]

講得真好ㄟ 太感謝了

[@chsnote]

也感謝觀看！

[@zero200189]

最近買礦渣EVGA Z15 銀軸 我考慮要換TTC金粉軸，但是聽說衛星軸比較不穩嗎?? 目前知道 軸體可以用 TTC軸、佳達隆軸、凱華軸~ 但是無法確認CHERRY透殼是否裝~

[@chsnote]

理論上有相容 SMD LEDs 的軸體應該是可以裝，會有預留一小塊LED的空間，不過最好先拿一顆試試看比較保險。原本的衛星軸算是一般般吧，如果在意更穩的手感，可以再改造一下唷

[@j123507]

您好，之前我是用45g, 2mm的茶軸，如果換成這把clicky版的鍵盤，聲音和需要花費的力氣會差很多嗎?最近要換新鍵盤，剛好看到您的影片，糾結要買silver還是clicky哪個版本的好...謝謝您!

[@chsnote]

聲音會大上許多，這clicky聲音比較接近青軸哦，茶軸段落幾乎是沒聲音。 大大用的2mm茶軸指的是觸發點對吧？ clicky厚金軸的按壓力道對比茶軸，觸發力量差不多，但觸發因為多根彈簧感覺很明顯，觸底的力道更大一點點，觸發的點1.1和全鍵程3.5都比較短。 Silver就是和櫻桃銀軸差不多，沒有段落的線性軸，觸發早和鍵程短。 兩種軸都和茶軸插滿多的唷！從茶軸換上clicky厚金，差比較多的是聲音，再來是觸發點比較早，剛開始用應該容易誤觸（特別是手指放在鍵帽上待命的情況）。 如果怕不怕聲音吵的話，我是覺得clicky比silver，特色更強一點。😉

[@j123507]

@@chsnote 好的，謝謝您。話說回來，能單獨設定wasd的燈光顏色嗎？還是這是以區域來設定的呢？

[@chsnote]

應該是要用區域來選，他是用框來指定的樣子

[@TAIWANMapleStory]

很細心又很有細節的影片，雖然折扣碼過期了，蠻好奇實際可以扣多少錢

[@chsnote]

感謝支持！ 折扣碼還是可以用的唷，雖然沒有 10 月的時候那麼殺，當時折扣碼是 6 折加上免運 -100 免稅 -5%。 現在4月份折扣碼是7折，官網上的價格NT 3230(含稅) x 0.7 = 2303，還要加上運費 100 左右。

[@tommychen3]

拍的蠻好看的 :) nice

[@chsnote]

耶～謝謝！

[@voltahuang]

請問一下，這個鍵盤好像有三年的保固是嗎? 不知道其保固範圍是怎樣的呢? 軸體的壽命有在保固範圍內嗎? 謝謝。

[@chsnote]

這把是三年保固，詳細可以參考 tw.evga.com/warranty/peripherals/

[@s510732s]

我現在用的這個鍵盤就是Z15，大概用了半年吧，凱華厚金打音GAME很爽，可惜當初是買速度銀軸版本的，打字不太順，考慮剩下的全換成厚金軸😄

[@chsnote]

這種速度軸打字應該都要適應一下，觸發速度很快，容易按錯，或是抖一下就按了兩次XD

[@jiiuen]

今天欣亞入手990元含運費

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

I realised the Z15 shows static electrical charges once you touch the metal. It runs electricity through the person. As well I noticed on a game the Z15 makes without touching any key while pressed foreward the arrow key it makes turn the characters to the right suddenly. I did not touch the right arrow key at all. I am sure about that. Why would that be? Static interferance? Lots of typos as well with the mechanical Z15. Much more typos than with my former Dell membrane full size wire keyboard. But an nice awesome feel. It suddenly started to work as I plugged it in again. I do not use the software and have shut off as well the RGB lights. Otherwise much better feeling and stability than with the Dell membrane keyboard.

[@chsnote]

I didn't experience other keys triggering automatically, maybe there is another problem with your keyboard. Quick trigger switches are prone to typos, this is a common problem with this type of switch and takes a while to get used to Maybe a membrane keyboard is more suitable for you, or a mechanical keyboard with general switches

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

@@chsnote The typos are due to the indeed oversensitive Kailh Silver linear switches and speciually the design of the EVGA Z15 keyboard. Switch height and key curvature and tilt are the main culprit of typos. Otherwise is this Z15 an wast improvement over the Dell membrane keyboard I had to date. Despite the typos. I likje the clack of these Silver l;inear switches. Only the typos are annoying. I dont regret switching over toi the mechanical keyboard and never will got back toi the membrane type keyboard whaytsopever. Typos./..

[@chsnote]

Maybe you can try Kailh box red switch or Cherry red switch They are similar but have a longer travel distance. You have to press deeper to trigger the key, reducing typos

[@y_c_w_0304]

為什麼我的Z15熱拔插拔不起來嗚嗚，很用力了耶，請問有什麼訣竅嗎

[@chsnote]

以鍵盤正放的位置來看，軸體上和下貼近面板的地方，各有一格給拔軸器夾的位置，拔軸器要卡住後往上提。 我的話會左手按住金屬髮絲紋的定位版，右手往上拔，如果太卡，我會先輕微左右晃動，往上拉看看，如果還是卡，再來輕微上下晃動，就拔得起來了，會先左右再來才上下，因為 pin 腳是橫向的，左右比較安全一點，還有記得搖動幅度不要太大唷！以免把針腳弄彎，或者把連接器孔給擴太鬆了。 另外插回去也要先看一下針腳有沒有彎曲再插，如果有彎曲可以先扳正。

[@kaxman101]

看到那條反光鋁邊就倒胃

[@梅川庫子-r6h]

想問一下光軸的熱插拔 軸體要怎麼選

[@chsnote]

有"熱拔插"的"光軸"，現在好像也只有Keychron有吧？光軸目前都是各家有各家的規格，不像是普通機械軸很多可以互插，所以熱拔插的部分大概就只能做相同牌子的軸體替換用。Keychron好像是用LK光軸，三種軸體，青茶紅應該是對應普通機械軸的設計，青有段落聲和按壓段落感，茶小聲有段落感，紅軸小聲線性軸(直上直下)。 Keychron是京東家的產品，台灣還是有地方可以試打，可以搜尋"Keychron 試打點"，可以去店裡打打看，看喜歡不喜歡，我沒打過就是了XD。另外，沒有"熱拔插"的光軸選擇就比較多種了，像是華碩、RAZER等等的品牌，比較多地方可以試打看看。

[@梅川庫子-r6h]

@@chsnote 因為目前在考慮cooler master ck351光軸可以熱插拔的 小弟目前沒玩過熱插拔的鍵盤想玩玩看 預算大概在3000以下

[@chsnote]

CM CK351 好像網路上蠻少資料的，我沒打過，他有三種軸，也是青茶紅，跟大部分機械軸設計類似，建議可以找找看有沒有地方試打，看喜歡哪種軸。 看起來價格蠻不錯的，以光軸來說算便宜@@，不過這雖然有熱拔插，但是這軸體，應該只有自家的軸可以換，看官網一顆 20 幾塊錢，不便宜哦！選買的軸要多考慮考慮，換幾個軸體應該還可以，大面積換軸就不太划算了。有些人會在不同按鍵配不同軸體，像是空白鍵、CTRL等等，為了打起來比較特別或者是為了遊戲用，這就看個人喜好了。

[@藍迪東-w3o]

會介紹EVGA X17滑鼠嗎？🤔

[@chsnote]

應該不會耶！我目前是用rog gladius ii core，暫時還不會換。

[@藍迪東-w3o]

謝謝你的答覆😭

[@chsnote]

後來我有改裝這一把，可以參考: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpe7da18icSIppI

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

The GMMK concept is definatelly a good concept but IMHO way overpriced. A slab of aluminum can not be that expensive. Similar concepts follow now other brands like EVGA with its Z15 but I had already an faulty Z15 one and EVGA does not replace it "no questions asked". Sending it back I do not because I can still use the switches and only the PCB seems to be bad. Times are gone where companies just replaced you an defect product. Now warranty isn't allmost anymore able to be claimed at all. I already wanted to buy the PCB alone from EVGA but they refused claiming "it's propietary". The Right to Repair triggered on them some horrors as it seems. I can not find eighter an standalone PCB for the 100% GMMK as such as its not repairable neighter. The PCB is most likely the part which failes first (transistors, etc.) and then the USB cable which is fixed as well on the Z15. So clearly these mechanical keyboards have built in planned obsolescence. I told EVGA that and that seemed to have triggered some bad mood as well on their Customer Service. Just the part which will fail first, the PCB and USB cable, can not be swapped, exchanged or repaired by the customer. Connection problems are no unknown for my Z15 neighter. Kailh stated that these hot swappable pins are only good for 100 cycles - thats 100 switch changes. Then the whole PCB is gone. So on these "hot swappable" mechanical keyboards what you want is be able to change the PCB since that will fail first as the Kailh switch connectors are soldered to the PCB (these have only 100 cycles). EVGA gives a shit about their customers - something normal for german and taiwanese companies as I have experienced in my life already. The Right to Repair has to be enforced in the US as such as all parts are commercially availlable. The companies could save lots of money by dumping warranty at all and referring only to buy the spare parts on your own when it fails lets say 1 month after purchase. Even graphic cards could be repaired like that selling to the customer the PCB of those. If an fan quits the customer can buy the spare part on eBay, Amazon, Best Buy or Walmart for repairs. The items have to be built modular obviously then so anyone can repair it.

[@chsnote]

Mass-produced keyboards like the Z15 are mainly to reduce the price, and its PCB cannot be purchased separately. This option is only available on more expensive custom keyboards. If no RMA is available, the switches can also be used with other keyboards (about $40 for 108 switches is more than half the price of the keyboard). Almost all parts on the PCB are not modular, so they can only be repaired with a soldering iron. Just like if the HDMI socket of the graphics card is faulty, it can only be replaced with a soldering iron. If the main chip on the PCB of the keyboard is not faulty, the other parts on the PCB can be bought on Amazon, Ebay and Aliexpress, such as Kailh's Hot-swappable socket.

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

@@chsnote Hi. Can you send me some links of the parts on amazon to buy for the Z15. EVGA did not answer my question which conector is used for the USB cable to PCB. They maintain it as a secret. Lets say the main chip on the PCB is not faulty. Which parts can I change? Like the Kailh sockets I have seen but they are soldered on the PCB right? I dont know to solder. How are the Kailh sockets mounted on the PCB? Which parts of the PCB can be changed, replaced, swapped and repaired else? I would like to be able to buy the entire PCB for the Z15 in 15 years just to stay with this model. That idea EVGA did not like very much.

[@chsnote]

Yes, these parts are soldered on the PCB If you want to repair, need some soldering skills Solder works like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eobEYqSVjdWHe9k On Amazon I only see more than 100 packs Kailh Hot-swappable PCB Socket: amzn.to/3QFYHVE The USB cable looks like a normal 5 pin header, the sockets in the keyboard are not sure if they are regular, but you solder the wires one by one. www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-z15-rgb-gaming-keyboard/images/disassembly-14.jpg SMD LED I'm not sure if Z15 uses this, I only found similar ones on aliexpress(Not sure about the original led version, be careful with the positive pin) www.aliexpress.com/item/32834931333.html Other parts include resistors, capacitors, etc. can be replaced If you consider buying all the parts on the keyboard, the total retail price may exceed the price of a new keyboard, and it also requires soldering, which is not recommended.

[@chsnote]

A hot-swap socket only has a hundred cycles. But compared to the switch directly soldered on the PCB If you want to replace it, you need to desolder first, remove the old switch, and then solder on the new switch. Repeated soldering and desoldering, the PCB may burn out after 3-5 times. Hot-swap sockets still have their advantages

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

@@chsnote My question to EVGA was just which connector has the power cable where it meets the PCB and as well which connector has the volume wheel cable to the PCB. EVGA says it is a "propietary secret" and Techpowerup I asked as well and they do not tell me but refer me only to EVGA. So clearly built in plannes obsolescence. Man this Z15 makes typos. Lots of typos. I believe the press weight is a bit to light on these Kailh linear switches.