La canne: Leboucher's method

[@pattryckp]

J'apprécie énormément cet Art-Martial Français qui nous honore. 🐓 Cocorico ! Passionné par le maniement de la Canne & du Bâton, très efficace pour ceux qui ont plusieurs années de pratique. Il ne faut en aucun cas mésestimer ce système de défense ! 👍❤️🙏

[@veritasardens6547]

c'est bien utile, qu'y a-t-il à mésestimer ?, à mon avis, c'est intéressant de voir et de savoir que la France possédait ses propres systèmes de défense qui se datent du dix-huitième et du dix-neuvième siècles, cela me rappelle un peu l'escrime quant au maniement de ces bâtons. :)

[@defaultoandores626]

J'ai regardé tes vidéos sur le bâton méthode Joinville et Hébert après avoir regardé celle-ci je me sens prêt à pratiquer ces techniques ! Les vidéos sont super clair et bien fait, merci beaucoup !

[@ignitionfrn2223]

0:00 - Introduction 0:50 - Leboucher's history 5:00 - Repos _Relaxed Stance_ 5:10 - Garde _Guard_ 6:40 - Coup de Tête _Head Strike_ 8:15 - Coup de Tête avec rotation du poignet _Head Strike with wrist twist_ 8:35 - Coup de figure à droite _Face strike to the right_ + 9:10 Coup de flanc à droite _Flank strike to the right_ 9:45 - Coup de figure à gauche _Head strike to the left_ 10:55 - Enlevé _Upward Strike_ 11:20 - Le même avec parade de tête et fente en arrière _Same but with a head parry & a back lunge_ 12:05 - Coup de pointe _Thrust_ 12:50 - Parade de tête avec fente en arrière _Head parry & back lunge_ 13:15 - Parade de flanc avec fente en arrière _Flank parry & back lunge_ 14:00 - Parade & riposte _Parry & riposte_ 14:20 - Parade de prime _Prime parry_ 15:20 - Parade d'enlevé _Upward strike parry_ 15:45 - Bagarre _Quarrel or 4 faces_ 16:40 - Volte _Sweeps_ 17:15 - Le même avec marche _Same but while walking_ 17:45 - Conclusion

[@Outrider74]

Very good video, Maxime. Well-illustrated through your interpretations.

[@RuizCombatGrappling]

This was great! Thanks for making this!

[@Alessio.zucconi]

Un altro fantastico video,complimenti.

[@danmorgan3685]

This is a really interesting video, thanks! My one question is why hasn't anyone made a movie about a short, hard drinking, harder fighting Frenchmen who trained some pretty famous people?

[@kevingooley9628]

I'd watch that :-D

[@HerbertSimonDachs]

The slipping of the front leg reminds me of the ilustrisimo escrima Style. Nice similarities. Thank you for the cool Video!

[@xiezicong]

Always happy to see you upload. :)

[@maximechouinard8902]

Thank you!

[@xiezicong]

You're very welcome! I shared your video a couple places. :)

[@dougmaloney2871]

Splendid. Belleville, On.

[@MrSaturdayNightSpecial]

The image you are showing, that is not a swing by subject on the right, its a lunge jab. The subject on the left is swinging for the knee or lunge jabbing at the lower body. Its a demonstration of distancing, subject right has taken a blow to the knee, or a lunge jab to the stomach area or crotch, and has lunge jabbed subject left right under the nose or into the nose. Notice the "canes" are at similar length and appear to be measured. Subject left has a longer reach, however that does not matter because subject right has taken the (what appears to be) shorter cane and jabbed it right in his face. The blow to that leg will hurt, but not as bad as having that cane end jammed into your face and shoving your head back 6 inches or more. You can tell its a jab and not a swing because that is a fencing lunge. The thumb is down turned, the next move would be to jab again, or bring the cane to the left shoulder and back across the face of subject left and press the attack. You should note, that if you can strike with the cane, you to, can receive a strike with the cane as well. Due to the era this is from, true gentlemen should not go around, hitting each other with sticks over matters more easily handled with intelligent speech or exiting the situation. However, if you are the type who wants to go around, hitting people with sticks, you should be prepared to have one jammed in your face, from the likes of a kindly gentleman who knows better than to swing sticks at people for no good reason or over words of insult. That would be considered ill mannered, ill tempered and unacceptable behavior, especially in public in the Victorian era. Only ruffians would start such an ill mannered thing in public. You have now been properly informed. Its an easy mistake to make, if you wish to slap them with the stick, and continue to the fight, go ahead. A serious man, won't be so forgiving. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3ynnHWigKqMZ8k observe the forgiving mistakes. Also, observe, the women, double, hand, jab.

[@maximechouinard8902]

I don't know if you can read French, but the technique is literally described in the lower right corner of this image: "Riposte by a strike to the outside face after a parry to the leg in quarte." It's also described in very clear terms in the manual. The thrust, or coup de bout, is described elsewhere, as shown in my video. To quote yourself: You have now been properly informed.

[@l2a3sterling]

1616 I translated Charlemonts book and was doing this multiple opponent drill. my friend (who did canne) told me it was wrong (20 years ago) but here it is......

[@l2a3sterling]

10:00 - I was told that the palm is almost facing down at the completion of the strike from outside. I notice you have the palm up - a stronger and more natural way.

[@maximechouinard8902]

This is one way of doing it, to get around an opponent's parry if they tend to block very close to their body.

[@l2a3sterling]

@@maximechouinard8902 later this year i will be traveling to Montreal. i would like to visit. I did a lot of research on la canne.

Maravilhoso! Parabéns pelo canal! [] BR

[@alexisaugustin7441]

Beautiful méthode

[@alainlaurent3693]

Good method with heavy cane like in begining this is the reason ''le tiré par l'arrière ou le dévelopemment par le tiré arrière.

[@vincentbuccieri9305]

Well Done Thank You

[@tahtib1]

very good

[@kamelt5436]

Tu peux faire une version française s'il te plaît ?

[@SandeDragon]

Great Art , and very effective 120 blows/ mn one of my hobbies ;-) Thanks to Mr VASSEROT ( RIP ) my Master of " Canne de Combat " Paris / Montpellier - France

[@toddellner5283]

With the large movements is this style vulnerable to thrusts which can cause damage more quickly without the large arcing motions?

[@maximechouinard8902]

If you look further into the video, you will see that Leboucher actually has an opinion on that. He does teach thrusts, but they are not that useful for him as they need to be significantly winded back to get enough momentum into them, and they are also only useful against very localized targets like eyes, throat, plexus. This opinion is relayed by nearly every la canne and baton instructor of that era. And this is not because the French didn't like the thrust, they were considered specialists of the foil and employed it heavily in their swordsmanship and boxing. It just isn't that useful with a stick that is not the size of a quarterstaff.

[@toddellner5283]

I did watch but am still a little mystified. I have had one of my ribs cracked by a single good thrust from a baton. It was very fast, didn't depend on the stick being massive or quarter-staff length. Against even more delicate targets like the face or throat it could have been an immediate fight stopper. Used to work in a university athletic center. There were plenty of trips to the ER when squash and racquetball players got broken orbits purely by accident.

[@maximechouinard8902]

Yes but the question is, is it a reliable outcome? I know from first hand experience that a cracked rib (happened twice in a fight) is not a fight stopper when you are under the effect of adrenaline as you only really feel it after the facts. You can be lucky and happen to strike precisely at an eye or a zygomatic bone, but the chances of you missing that incredibly small target in a tense fight are very high. A thrust is also a fairly commited attack. If I miss, I am exposing my hand to be sniped, my stick to be grabbed and I am not covering myself in any way.

[@alainlaurent3693]

10''57 ce n'est pas '' l'enlevé '' ça s'appelle le coup droit au latéral droit figure l'enlevé c'est moulinet extérieur bas

[@maximechouinard8902]

Voyez la page 12, riposte par un enlevé. On passe d'une position de parade intérieur en quarte, ployant le bras, baissant la pointe vers l'arrière en décrivant un cercle et remonter en tierce sous le coude.

[@maximechouinard8902]

Très différent de ce qui se fait en canne de combat moderne, ou là vous auriez raison, c'est un moulinet développé à l'extérieur et envoyé au bas du corps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5msfX2jbNx6iZY

[@alexisaugustin7441]

, ça serait pas surtout le croiser Bas avec bien entendu une fente dans notre méthode moderne mais probablement comme le dit l'auteur l'enlever dans la méthode d'origine

[@revugameplays5287]

Hi. Is that a Dowel?

[@maximechouinard8902]

Its a small rattan stick.

[@revugameplays5287]

Thanks

[@mlhogan1]

@@maximechouinard8902 I wondered what it was, it seems much more limber and lighter than my hickory Hanbo. Very good video, thank you very much for this.

[@l2a3sterling]

WHERE R U LOCATED?

[@maximechouinard8902]

I am in Ottawa, Canada.

[@kamelt5436]

Je ne comprends pas