LACK OF EMPATHY: Why Your Wife Dismisses Your Feelings

[@ohdiverdoc]

One Saturday, years ago, I was outside cutting grass and trimming the bushes, while my wife was cleaning and sweeping in the house. After a couple of hours I came inside and was greeted by being yelled at for not helping clean in the house. I said, "Didn't you see that I've been outside cutting grass and doing the yard work?" Her response was, " But I don't care about that." I've never forgotten that moment....

[@Rmulberger]

Wow... Brother, you are not alone. A similar thing happened to me. I was outside doing fall leaf cleanup for 6 hours. I came back inside to my wife in front of the television. She didn't fold the laundry or even cook dinner. This year I came to the conclusion that she either starts being a partner or will find herself single.

[@obelic71]

They always want to get you feel bad whatever you do. Nothing is good enough. Woman can be so destructive even if you love them.

[@fauxbro1983]

You need to make her your ex-wife

[@andrew1717xx]

How long had she been unfaithful?

[@jimjohnson394]

@@Rmulberger Need better leadership. You should have asked her to come out and help. Being a woman is no excuse to be lazy.

[@j-the-isso2087]

Recently I got sick for the first time in 6 years. For someone who works 6 days a week and never complains It's amazing how every female I knew accused me of having man flu insisting I should man up. The modern female has become a cold hearted stone.

[@stevescuba1978]

My wife tried to "tease" me about getting so sick when I do finally catch a big. I started reminding her of the 20-30 days a year that she has a migraine, how much she whines about menstrual issues, and how she has been sick 4-5 times for every one time I had. I reminded her that I took care of her each and every time without calling her names or insinuating that she is weak, and that, if we were counting, I spent 10 times as much time and effort taking care of her ailments than she's ever needed to do for me. I also reminded her that my flu will burn through me in 48 hours, while hers takes 8-10 days, that of course it would hit me with more intensity. She doesn't tease me about man-flu anymore

[@SeanP7195]

And you have to take it. If you retort they would have bounced you outta there. Plus you probably have to do twice the work there to make up for how little they do.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

It's worse than that

[@R0d_1984]

Yeah i rarely get sick, but when i do it's bad (2-3 days), i don't understand why they don't get it; But they seem to always be sick (A mother and 3 sister, ex-girlfriends) when my ex got sick, i waited on her, (i can cook), made her meals in bed, drinks, cool clothes for her forehead etc, she sprained her ankle, two story house, i carried her upstairs about 2-3 times a day; that time of the month i'd lay her on me (facing away for me) in bed or a lounge chair place my hand over her lower tummy (She said the warmth of my hand would take away her pains) for about an hour; When i got sick though she didn't complain (she had several good-very good qualities; Never got the lack of sex issues, a couple of times in 5 years), though she really couldn't cook (either could her mother, the father spent 12 hours a day, 6 days a week driving a train, had the to come and cook 3-4 days a week...)...

[@Kv-pk2st]

I can feel your pain. I just had a major heart issue and ended up needing a triple bypass. She got upset that I couldn't help her when her car broke down two weeks after surgery. But remember we are ALWAYS the bad guy.

[@goontubeassos7076]

I received a positive outcome from showing this channel to my girlfriend, I’m now single. But, at least I’m free from the abuse. This channel is a new hurdle for women if they want to date me for now on.

[@ivanwalker6459]

You may well have saved yourself years of pain. Good luck to you.

[@leonelmateus]

wow that's because she was intending to game you all along.. but you caught on. pat yourself in the back. this woman resonates truth with my experience of being previously married.

[@markoncken9511]

Same experience. Here's a good one. When we first started dating she stated that she can get along with anyone and so if you can't get along with me...you're the problem". Hadn't seen these videos at that point but "boy howdy" she actually had given herself away. I sent her a video and yep. She went ballistic! It absolutely ended last night.

[@mcc7762]

Most women will negate everything in her videos, because they do not care, and enjoy being angry and miserable.

[@avlifesavers]

Single life is fantastic. Enjoy life to it's fullest.

[@dieseldan5189]

My father passed away 2 years ago at the age of 79 after a long battle with cancer. The last year of his battle my father released his pent up emotions of the last 58 years married to my mother. He was bitter and resentful and let her have it. He even did it with the hospice care nurses who came on their scheduled visits declaring that women are awful. It was really painful for me to see this even though I completely understand where he was coming from.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

RIP to your dad.

[@5150Bud]

Sounds like dad was a narcissist. They do that behavior when they face death.

[@dieseldan5189]

@@5150Bud you are absolutely clueless, ignorant and rude.

[@parrotshootist3004]

@@5150Budother than 'they do that', you got anything actual to base that on? OP was clear his dad suffered (implied; in silence) for decades first - that's something vIctIms of narcissists do. You know something else they do? Attract narcissitic sorts.

[@emkhet7924]

@@5150Budthat is fucked up for you to say about his father!!!! His father was married for 58 years, you don’t know what his father experienced during the duration of his marriage.

[@JohnDretired]

Women avoid conflict? That's news to me. My wife actively seeks it out and if it doesn't exist naturally, she will generate it.

[@utubewillyman]

I think they avoid the kind of conflict where they might be held accountable or made to feel shame. It would be nice to see someone make this distinction.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

Why is she still your wife?! Stop tolerating poor behaviour.

[@avlifesavers]

It's my opinion that women like exercising all their emotions, like a muscle. Even the bad ones, whether you did anything or not.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Women avoid conflict that is initiated by others. They’re more than happy to create it on their own terms.

[@mcc7762]

Yep, they thrive on conflict, and indeed do create it, until you react. It feeds them.

[@robhulson]

Here is the thing I've learned about women and empathy. Many women believe they are empathetic on the basis of how they can easily imagine themselves in the shoes of _other women_ and children, and it's not difficult for them to feel similar feelings in reaction to the circumstances that other women and children describe happening to them. All they have to do is open themselves up to hearing about the story and boom, they can mirror the feelings. What is rare is for a woman to try and understand how men perceive, feel, and interact with the world with a truly different set of urges, impulses, and objectives than they do. This is one of the biggest problems in modern gender dynamics. While we have some similarities, we also have distinctions that it's not politically correct to discuss because, honestly, the feminine is trying to silence the masculine from expressing itself. Modern women do not want to acknowledge that men have a different value system, and are seeking to eliminate any trace of it by branding it as "toxic."

[@wavybump]

dam 🍪🍪

[@garydrago]

I don’t consider that true empathy then, because true empathy requires the ability to put yourself in the shoes of someone who you have nothing in common with, and still understand their lived experience and humanity.

[@bgrego88]

Your 1st paragraph describes empathy perfectly. The thing is women have no care for men, like at all. Every dealing with them is a means to an end. They don't seek equality or fairness in regards to men, they desire the dominance that they believe we have over them

[@robhulson]

@@garydrago yeah, but empathy spans more than gender. A person can show empathy to people outside themselves without requiring the person be completely different than they are. Otherwise I can’t empathize with another man, and I assure you that I can. But I’ve also worked at empathizing with women.

[@garydrago]

@@robhulson I wasn't saying exclusively outside of yourself I was saying it requires outside of yourself in addition to people who you have quite a lot in common with (I'd argue the latter is easier than the former)

[@tywillis741]

I asked my wife to please watch one of your videos to get an understanding of how I was feeling over the years in hopes of improving our relationship. She listened and had an angry visceral response to what you were saying and threatened me to never forward any of your content again. That’s when I knew you were on to something. Thank you for attempting to help women take a true look at themselves.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Divorce her dude. Life’s not meant to be a prison sentence.

[@christianriddler5063]

@@peripheralparadox4218 Exactly, we are meant to live and appreciate life, to worship God and be freed from evil. Life is too short to be wasted on the wrong people. Even God says to not throw pearls at swine because the swine have no way to understand the value of the pearls.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

@@christianriddler5063 please keep your marriage to Jesus between you and Jesus. Most people on Earth don’t believe in your God and it’s arrogant to engage with people as if they do.

[@mcc7762]

And that is exactly the response any man will get from 90% of females on this video. It was predictable.

[@christianriddler5063]

@@peripheralparadox4218 You will never be able to tell me what to do, trying to control my free speech and my right to preach as usual. You will never stop the preaching of the gospel, Jesus Christ is God and he will return to judge the world which includes you. Repent of your wickedness and be free from sin in Jesus Christ.

[@davidsanford2843]

About 3 years ago i opened up to my wife, let myself be vulnerable, 3 chances i gave her to take me seriously, she laughed in my face 2 times, was completely dismissive, & invalidating. I brought it up & she kept explaining it away, i will never forget that, & as we get older i understand why older men tell the younger men “she is not blood, she is not your family, don’t forget that”. Its more common than many will admit

[@zsedcftglkjh]

Similar experience, but with my mom when I was a kid. She still weaponizes that vulnerability against me fifteen years later.

[@nomadman5288]

Being blood/family won't make someone take what you say seriously.

[@BytorTheSnowDog]

Damn that’s gold, they aren’t family! Women don’t have REAL friends for a reason

[@BytorTheSnowDog]

They’ll all bang their best friends man just for fun, cause most women never grow or become a REAL person

[@bgrego88]

​@@BytorTheSnowDogonce you know you know. My gripe is how can you complain of lack of friendship and loneliness when you are never good to anyone and only act in self interest

[@DrLusEnglish]

Karyn is not just spreading knowledge of couple relationships, she is setting men free from mental prisons set by the persons they love the most.

[@GardenerEarthGuy]

Yes. It is a prison sentence to live with a woman you hate. I learned this before internet the hard way- I hope many hear this and learn that women must be managed. Her channel is great. Iceberg Slim has a book on KZbin and is worth a listen.

[@elbowstrike]

*loved

[@svalbard01]

@@GardenerEarthGuy What's the name of the book?

[@DivineKnight_115]

She’s also doing one thing women have never done in human history. Holding each other accountable.

[@GardenerEarthGuy]

@@svalbard01 I think the name bars the comment, it's on KZbin and something every man should listen to the ebook or read the book. Call it The Art Of War but pertains to male/female interaction...

[@billbridge7458]

I've never met a woman(including my own mother), who will ever admit to being wrong about anything.

[@machman_I]

Yes I can relate to this, it's not just wives that behave like this to their husbands, it's also how mother's treat their sons and daughters strangely enough!

[@Pietje_Piraat]

18 years with the same wife. Love her dearly. We have a passionate relationship. She has humour, intelligence, beauty and is totally committed to me, our children and our common future goals. Never have I experienced the stuff mentioned in this video. I must be a very very lucky man. Key is, I think, that she is a very conservative traditionalist. She loves family and Health family and societal values. I thank her parents on my knees for raising her. I honor them by taking very very good care of her in everything.

[@dukelps9132]

You are very lucky. Statistically speaking, less than 5% of people married after 8 years would describe their marriage this way.

[@Jerry-yb7po]

You are right

[@mattgardner145]

I also have a great wife with traditional values. We knew from the get go that her happiness was not my responsibility. It can't be.

[@canelareina3795]

I am a traditional.wife and I never emasculate my husband. I don't know anybody IRL like the people on this channel. I find this channel fascinating.

[@NhamshahSpah-ky-id6jo]

Problem is: Women are chameleons. They will say that they agree with traditional values in order to hook a man. And then proceed to live their married life a-la-cart. That is, traditional where & when it suits them.

[@wishiwasoffline]

My father-in-law was in a very difficult situation, and it wasn't until one afternoon I was driving him home from a family event on my own - he was Greek and essentially spoke no English - that he said only a few words to me: 'get out'. Get out. I honestly thought initially he meant get out of the car. What he meant was, leave his daughter because he saw how badly she was treating me, and he knew she was going to be as bad as the woman he'd been with for 60 years (he was about 84). He could barely explain it, but I remember the sadness in his eyes. About all else he could say was 'there was so much future for me' 'so much life'. I took months to process it. He never said anything again, but just faded away 4 years later in the corner of his terrace house with his domineering wife ignoring him and shooshing him. I took his advice a few years after.

[@Sensorium19]

That's remarkably affecting.

[@Pssst.ByTheWay]

@@Sensorium19😮 years in….there is no escape.

[@basiliimakedonas1109]

Greek women are total b1tches and generally the worse, he was right, poor man suffered all his life most of us will

[@aiynaiy]

I feel sorry for men trapped in marriage.

[@jermaineayivoh8263]

I don’t. They got themselves into it, they can get themselves out of it. No man is “trapped” in any kind of marriage. Most men are just too p*ssy to deal with the possible consequences of trying to get out of a broken marriage. Instead they wallow in self pity, afraid like a little child. It’s that fear that makes their spouses respect them even less. When a man stays inside of a marriage in which he is constantly disrespected by his wife, it signals that he lacks the cojones to stand up for himself!

[@AbesYoutube]

I've been trapped for the last 17 of 19 years. I'm so so sick of feeling ignored and alone. My marriage is little more then a room mate agreement.

[@jzeff6250]

​@@AbesKZbin you are not alone, brother. I am in a 31 yr marriage and feel the same way. I am fighting, but the energy drain has deleted me

[@AbesYoutube]

I feel that tearing my family appart to try and build a new marriage would be selfish and wrong. My kids don't know any different. This is home for them. It's a difficult call, I don't want them to emulate an unhealthy relationship but I don't want them to be plunged into an unstable environment by breaking up the home. So I'm making the best of it.

[@julioestebanperezescudero6246]

Not everyone is trapped may be 99.99 % of them.🤣

[@Sajidov3]

I've always found women to have a very flawed view of empathy. When women want men to be empathetic, that doesn't mean they want men to understand their feelings or put themselves in a woman's shoes. Rather, it means they want a man to VALIDATE their feelings and corresponding actions. For example, I can certainly empathize with someone who is angry and understand what it's like to be angry, but I can also not validate those feelings if I think the anger is misplaced or an otherwise atypical emotional reaction to something that should evoke anger. Similarly, women are thought of as the more empathetic gender, especially by other women, but that's because a woman will often take the extra step and validate her friend's feelings, rather than empathizing but not always agreeing. And, of course, women do this because they want their friends to constantly validate their own feelings.

[@anthonywarren1317]

💯🎯👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@mrredacted]

Women define a lot of psychological concepts differently for themselves. They act consistent with their definitions, not with generally-accepted definitions.

[@markneeley4288]

What you've said makes sense. Especially since most married men have suffered this often.

[@HORNOMINATOR]

i see it as a type of tribalism. i've seen women throwing other people away like used diapers. still their BFFs wouldnt believe they could be next, but stay to them and encourage them like it wasnt their fault at all.

[@mcc7762]

Yes, they understand validation for their own kind, but have no idea how to put themselves in a man's shoes. Very well thought out, and true.

[@DevonFine-mz8cu]

My 20 year wife has been shaming me for years now I will NEVER be vulnerable AGAIN....

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Yep being vulnerable to women is another lie that society tells us to do.

[@TheASG2010]

NEVER show weakness to a woman

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

@DevonFine-mz8cu Out of curiosity, why did you put up with it for so long?

[@DevonFine-mz8cu]

@@BlueFish-kq9fh I thought it was my fault she's not happy/FULFILLED.... GASLIGHTING. devaluation I started being hypnotized by all the word salad. I finally realized I'm the healthy one....now I'm in to deep I have kids to consider.....I could go on.

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

@@DevonFine-mz8cuOkay, Devon, thanks for your reply. My best wishes to you and your kids, going forward.

[@Michael_Mears]

3:43 "he is fighting for the relationship" Woman: You won't fight for us! Man: Why do I have to fight YOU for us?

[@jimjohnson394]

Yeah, I always thought about that. If she is complaining that you won't fight for the relationship, and she is the one fighting you. Just what is she fighting against?

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

Be very clear with women. "Are you in or out?"

[@VivatVeritas1]

When a woman wants you to fight for the relationship, that’s womanese for demanding you find a new way to put up with her entitled BS.

[@AI_Movie_Critic]

Damn, well said

[@smokingcrab2290]

Bingo. The woman isn't your teammate. She's your adversary.

[@seanlinnan2719]

I shared your "withholding from mem" video with my wife. She was disgusted, saying, "Yes. I do that. Yes. I do this. Yes... yes... im sorry. I will work on it" Our whole world changed in days. Its been a long time and she is still 100% committed. Im in heaven now.

[@b.d.hooten1785]

You struck gold, brother. All the best in your new future. I'm actually thinking on renewing our vows when my wife finishes Karyns program - because then we can finally begin to have the actual marriage I thought I was entering 17yrs ago.

[@IBNED]

Like how often does that happen...

[@DevonFine-mz8cu]

My wife learned that boys are no longer pursuing girls and she doesn't know why....😂 🤐

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

They never do....

[@mcc7762]

They are not emotionally intelligent enough to ever see, or understand.

[@IYamWhatIYam136]

Maybe it's because they've seen the way their mother treats their father.

[@DevonFine-mz8cu]

@guitarszen 💯

[@noelsingletary]

In the 20 years I was married, I could never do anything right in her eyes. It hurt a lot to always be "wrong", when I knew I was right. Eventually I caught her cheating so I divorced her. I have not had another relationship in 6 years. I am going to the Philippines to find a traditional woman there and if I do, I will be selling my home here and moving to the Philippines. I'm just tired.

[@trevorparry2287]

Married to a mature filipina...never been happier

[@SayfumaniMyG]

Sorry to hear… but dont forget, that there is a meaning of life.

[@Friedbrain11]

You will find a real wife there and hopefully be as happy as my brother with his Philipino wife.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

Your first mistake was marrying her in the first place.

[@noelsingletary]

@@Friedbrain11 I certainly hope so. I am so tired of the games and disrespect.

[@SeanP7195]

I was in love with my ex and her me. I had a huge and very expensive vacation planned for us. She was very excited. However, she found out her ex husband and his wife were going to Hawaii. She then demanded we go to Hawaii as well and called my original vacation plans “stupid”. I simply couldn’t believe she would risk breaking us up over something so trivial. I wish her well.

[@v.r.2834]

Your ex was just stupid, how could you love her at all?!

[@SeanP7195]

@@v.r.2834 I didn’t once she exposed herself.

[@ackbuilder8262]

Watch a video - women keep a Rolodex of hurt.

[@ackbuilder8262]

Watch a video - women keep a Rolodex of hurt.

[@ackbuilder8262]

Watch - women keep a Rolodex of hurt.

[@patriot1303]

My ex one time said that she didn’t understand what to tell the kids or me when we were trying to explain our feelings to her. She said she watched some videos on how to relate to people and say the right things. And never forgot that. I was blown away when she said it because I thought wow you have to be trained to have empathy for people. It was a stunning admission on her part

[@parrotshootist3004]

Being aware of that about them, and not walking on egg shells, is phobia or hate...

[@mcc7762]

I am surprised she had the guts to admit it. Most will never see themselves that way.

[@parrotshootist3004]

@@mcc7762Rare beyond rare.

[@spankeyfish]

I wonder if she has Asperger's syndrome, that's a lot what it's like having it.

[@tacorevenge87]

She’s a narcissist

[@mrredacted]

I thought my wife was empathy-deficient because I found out after we got married she had Asperger's Syndrome. Since then I’ve learned that 98% of women are empathy-deficient.

[@robhulson]

They have a hive mind in that they can imagine themselves in the shoes of another woman or a child, but by and large they are unwilling to consider what the world looks and feels like for a man.

[@GardenerEarthGuy]

They don't even like each other?

[@sana-cm7oc]

100% are empathy deficient to anyone but their children.

[@tran-uy3du]

@@GardenerEarthGuy women only like their children

[@GardenerEarthGuy]

@@tran-uy3du not always

[@lovegrows7814]

I am grieved for all men out there but most of all I grieve for the pain I have caused my husband and my son. Thank you Karyn for your videos!

[@jimjohnson394]

I got to ask, were you conscious of what you were doing when you were doing it, or did you at least reflect back after the conflict?

[@lovegrows7814]

@@jimjohnson394 most of it no. I have learned so many things from Karyn that have made me ask myself what in the hell was I thinking/doing. My husband and I weren’t sexless, it was my lack of connection that made him upset with me. I always reflected on that. After huge fights, I would hate myself for the words that I spoke out of my mouth, apologizing sometimes and sometimes not. I’m going to be 💯 honest with you, until my husband showed me Karyn’s channel I don’t think I would have been worth a crap. I went into her video he shared with an open mind knowing that something had to give within myself. I gave up alcohol, and vowed that no matter the outcome of my marriage that I would spend the rest of my days treating my husband how he deserves to be treated. I grew up with no females in my life that supported women loving their men, it was always women were to be spoiled. I’m not in ANY way using that as a justification, Karyn is doing real work here and I pray it reaches more women everyday. Sadly, from my experience I don’t see it turning around. My advice for women now is to start listening to her channel, get out of your religious groups and sit in solitude without all of the women voices. It is the only way we can reflect to do better.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

@@jimjohnson394 Women are not stupid. They know when they are being C U Next TuesdayS.

[@paulmutongerwa5255]

Your a unicorn among women for realizing this...your family is blessed.

[@sparklessconnectionselectrical]

I hope it's not too late

[@tonyscott4333]

After Watching videos on narcissism: you can pretty much replace the word, ‘narcissist’ with the word ‘woman’, and the video still makes just as much sense

[@andyearthling1145]

That’s true

[@55tmilam]

💯

[@smokingcrab2290]

Every woman has an built in safety seeking mechanism they use to avoid pain. During the course of their lives, they try to find the best way to get that safety. Attention, validation, sex, drugs, money, over-attachment to her family, careers, status, fame, education, etc. When ultimately, her safety should be found in a good man. So whenever a woman is comitted to a good man she does not respect or love, it's because the man was never her truest source of safety in her mind or heart. He's just a bonus to her life. So she gave the man all the love, sex, and respect she wanted him to have in the beginning of the relationship thinking "this will show him he's loved and once he believes it, I won't need to do it anymore". So then she tapers it off after a few months because she thinks "he should just know I love him by now.. Love isn't about what you do for your man.. I shouldn't have to give him those things anymore.. He should love me no matter what I do and let me pursue my desires".. So the man gets confused and sees this as neglect, rejection, disrespect.. As he should. She then takes the man's feelings as a sign of weakness because she thinks the man isn't strong enough to find his own satisfaction outside of her, even though she's withholding the very things a woman is meant to provide for a man - love, sex, respect. She doesn't value these things like he does because she doesn't value him as her truest source of love. He's nothing more than a tool for her. So she says to herself "I found self satisfaction outside of him, why can't he find it for himself? That's what a man does!" so she sees him as needy and weak while she sees herself as strong and independent. She sees his attempts to love her and win her affection as manipulation thinking" he's just doing this do I give him something". She wants the man to be nothing more than a disposable accessory to her selfish world. So eventually the man gives up and leaves, because he was never treated as her ultimate source of safety and happiness. All his attempts to communicate this are met with scorn and ridicule. She put all of her energy into pursuing her original source of safety all along, and neglected the man thinking he should have adopted her ways of thinking. And when the man leaves she tells herself "See, I was right! He never loved me all along.. He was too weak.. He was too needy.. He only wanted me for what I could do for him.. I was right to not choose him as my source of safety because he would have left me anyway.. Now I can have full freedom to keep pursuing what I want without him, and hopefully I can find a man who will not be intimidated by a strong independent woman." So it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. She destroys every chance at true love and safety because she can't see what real love is. She's not in it for love. She's in it to avoid pain. She's in it to take. Not give. Giving requires too much energy because she spends it all pursuing whatever really makes her feel safe. She views the man's needs as a burden that keeps her from pursuing what she wants. When in truth, if she would have pursued him, he would have given her everything else and then some.

[@mikthe2004]

You've just summed up my 18 year marriage to my ex wife!! Your comment is one of the best and most insightful comments I've ever read on KZbin. Everything you say is exactly what I've been through, and I knew these things and tried to make my wife aware of what was going on, but like most women she's not big on introspection!! So, 9 months ago she moves out and we settle our finances. Now she complains she's lonely, and that no-one cares about her. She whines about how hard she has to work to make ends meet. And here's the kicker!! She cheats on her boyfriend of 18 months with me!! Yep, so she moved out because................................i dunno!! You'd have to ask her!!🤣🤣🤣

[@terry9238]

Why do you think a woman’s “safety should be found in a good man”? INSTEAD of a career or occupation of her own? It would be foolish for a woman to rely on anyone else for security-the “poorhouse” is full of women who did that! And aren’t men always complaining about the needy, greedy, clingy woman who tries to make a man her whole life and expects him to carry the whole financial burden forever? We’ve seen this movie before. The traditional model didn’t work when earlier generations tried to make it work; and it won’t work for our families now.

[@davidkidder6705]

The greatest thing I have ever read. You are a genius.

[@mikthe2004]

@@davidkidder6705 Yep, he totally nailed it, but even knowing this, what can you do to stop your marriage failing - nothing!! Because women will always follow their feelings and do what they want.

[@kokobaroko7848]

Such a great comment

[@GotChrist60]

"By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll be happy. If you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher" Socrates qoute

[@trith72]

If you get a good one, first verify you aren't lying to yourself, then go buy a lottery ticket, you are the luckiest man alive.

[@renaissanceman5847]

Women do seek out conflict... especially if it benefits their narrative in a relationship where the man is being emotionally and sexually neglected. It gets to the point we simply just shut down. Why? because WE (husbands) don't want conflict... we come home from work and the last thing we want to do is come home to yet another job we can barely tolerate. --- I dare not suggest my wife see your videos... unless I want to start another set of arguments where she tactfully maneuvers the entire issue as being my fault.

[@anthonywarren1317]

Sorry brother!.... You might have to consider leaving ...just saying you shouldn't have to feel this way in sharing anything...if you feel this way she is bullying you somehow emotionally, psychologically.....stay strong my brother

[@mcc7762]

You summed up just about every man's life with a childish woman. They take zero accountability, and everything your kid does wrong is your fault, everything she does wrong is your fault, and everything some half-arse politician does wrong is your fault too.

[@smokingcrab2290]

They create conflict, knowing what they're doing. Then they get mad at you for responding as you should to the conflict they create. And then they tell you that YOU'RE the abuser.

[@Guinnessdog77]

Ditch the b itch and get back your dignity. If not then put her on blast anytime she tries pulling her bs, tell her to get the f out if she doesn’t like being treated like she treats you…

[@paulmutongerwa5255]

correct, they get mad because you have told them the truth, the problem is men go through more torment because were logical creatures and cant live like this but women are often delusional and can go for years without accountability.@@smokingcrab2290

[@louisenglish8069]

I can absolutely believe you're not making a lot of female friends with these truth bombs

[@ntl219]

Tbh, female friends is always there to sabotage. Therefore, it might be the best to keep them out of her life.

[@genjutsureleaser982]

Ive been watching this channel for a while now and i filed for divorce. I deserve better. Thanks for the eye openers

[@TheThinkingMathematician]

Well done

[@AtomicMickey]

Well done, sir. Wish you the best from now on.

[@andrewf8288]

I envy you

[@55tmilam]

Good for you!!!! Nobody has to put up with the abuse!

[@jesusbernal9025]

Years ago, 6 mos before divorce, during a very cold day I stayed home fixing my ex,s vehicle outside, freezing like a penguin while she, my daughter and my ex,s nephews spent the day at the rec center and mall, until 6 pm when she call me to come and pick,em up. On our way back home the kids were hungry and stoped by the fast food restaurant only to see my ex throw down on purpose all the food. She was angry because I "spent the day at home " without considering all the hell of a cold day I had fixing the vehicle for her. That was the last day I ever considered her my partner, friend or wife at all for ever. 6 mos latter we got divorced cause she could not stand my silence. She killed the empath partner she had .

[@tedlogan4867]

Women have feelings, but they're entirely solipsistic. Only what happens to them is felt in any way that registers.

[@matthewnorris203]

Yes. A psychologist back around 1935 said, “the simplest way to understand women is to see them as a seven-year-old girl.“ The defining characteristic of children is that they tend to see the world through their feelings and perception.

[@Dawnarow]

Hard to formulate it any better.

[@matthewnorris203]

@@Dawnarow Thank you. What situations have you experienced that lead you to believe this to be true?

[@108MCruz]

yes, once you accept and understand this interacting with women becomes simple and second nature@@matthewnorris203

[@yeisonalvarez5776]

As a former psychologist I agree totally with this comment, anyone who disagrees with it or puts it into doubt will be surprised and not in the exciting way.

[@greenmachine7273]

My ex stayed mad at me for at least twenty of our twenty two year marriage. That would have been a 5 year marriage at most were it not for the kids. Because of the PTSD that woman gave me, I have never even considered remarrying. It's been ten years of peace.

[@johnkauppi7078]

Yeah, same here. For my 3 year marriage my ex was always mad at me for something. Half the time I had no idea what it was about. She'd never tell me, I was expected to be a mind reader too. I figured out she was just pissed off at men because of her father disowning her and a divorce from her ex husband. And she was a feminist too.

[@allanpatterson7653]

Sad story makes me glad I stayed single. Just an observation . She stayed mad at ya cuz you let her. There was only one reason to day mad at ya and that was you letting her put you through never ending bootcamp. It is control you spanked puppy. There was nothing wrong with you back then. Now on the other hand you may have a few ticks outta tok.

[@SilviaLampa]

Hugs❤ i feel sorry for you

[@toast47624]

You just summed up my wife of 28y. Over the past few weeks I have opened up to her explaining I have had enough. She promised to do better etc but already she has slipped straight back into how she was. Wow as I continue to watch you have summed up my position EXACTLY!!! I will ask her to watch this.

[@johnq.public2621]

Bro, get yourself an Irrevocable Trust, a passport, quietly sell off and hide as many assets as you can. You may be subject to alimony and may have to consider leaving the country to a non-extraditionary country and retire in peace and quiet. God be with you.

[@edheldude]

You haven't been in your masculine frame, and have submitted to your wife's abuse for too long. Expecting the behavior _you rewarded for decades_ to suddenly change is misguided.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

You should have just left her at that point. Women don't improve with age.

[@mcc7762]

She is not going to change. The women Karen is talking about are extremely few and far between.

[@lifeiswarwarislife1972]

Women don't change, you need to, never stop working to be better as a man, not necessarily for her betterment. Ultimately we men are alone in this world, adapt and thrive.

[@electechchannel3739]

I’m sharing your page with my wife as a last ditch effort to save our marriage. I’ve been telling her for years that her unhappiness is destroying our marriage. She always blames it on me, everything I say she says it right back to me. She is constantly projecting and emasculating me, no matter what I do. I hope this will open her eyes before it’s too late.

[@lashedbutnotleashed1984]

Good luck. But the chance that she will change is about zero.

[@TheASG2010]

Too late bud

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

Not to be melodramatic, but I think you should bite the bullet and spend a couple of hundred dollars (or whatever it takes) to consult a divorce lawyer. A *female* lawyer. You don't have to go past one session (unless things take a turn for the worse) but IMO it is *essential* that you know where you stand legally if it ever comes to that. Most people talk a lot about divorce law but know nothing about it in practice. This is fine for a woman (because judges/lawyers/the court system will *always* bend over backwards to help the woman and bash the man in a divorce action, and women know it) but extremely dangerous for a man. If you really want to do this (tell your wife to watch this video to learn what she is doing wrong) then IMO be prepared that she might explode and threaten you with divorce on the spot. She may also pick up the phone and call the cops, accusing you of AB (assault and battery) or whatever the legal equivalent is where you live. What will you do then? Be well prepared *before* you talk to her. Set up body cameras / microphones / whatever. In short, be prepared to walk away from your marriage on the spot.

[@oscardelta1257]

Better start planning an exit strategy

[@ryancoakley2796]

Your wife and our lives are somehow strangely mimicking each other it's almost as if I should type the same thing you have😢😂because that is the exact same nightmare I am living and it's so painful.

[@whocarescrapsa]

Ex: It is nice being with taller guys but it is not everything. Me: Yeah, I totally understand, it is the same for us too. It is nice being with smart and attractive woman but it is not everything. Ex: Explosion! Tantrum! What kind of man says that to a woman? Me: Um, the same kind of man who’s woman said that to him!? Ex: What I said was a compliment. You are being petty. What you said was the most insulting thing to a woman. Me: Okaaay. I can also lie and pretend what I said was a compliment. You can change your attractiveness and intelligence so my comment is nowhere near as hurtful as yours. I must accept that you told me I am not your first choice and can never be. You can work on becoming my first choice. Ex: Well, everyone can see that you are short. Me: Really? Are we going to play this game? Everyone can see that you are…. This comes from a woman that is a head shorter than me.

[@aaziis]

☕️

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

@whocarescrapsa : I can easily believe your account of this conversation with your ex-wife, because these things are so common these days. The internet (social media, podcasts, etc.) simply allow things to come out in the open that would otherwise be hidden. The thing is that the vast majority of western women display two moral flaws: (1) They are completely lacking in responsibility / accountability, like children; and (2) They inherently lack a sense of moral rectitude, i.e. a sense of moral right & wrong, a.k.a. a conscience. Everything, and I mean everything, is emotion / feelings / a sense of entitlement and grievance. Your ex felt *entitled* to a tall man, and angry / resentful that she didn't have one. That's it -- like a child. Your feelings of being hurt / insulted were completely irrelevant to her -- you were being selfish and insecure for expressing those feelings to her.

[@JurrienMusic]

Word of advice: don't bother to argue with women. Even if you win you'll always lose.

[@whocarescrapsa]

@@JurrienMusic Your insight is absolutely accurate. In the past, I used to remain silent, only to discover that this approach doesn't serve well - it often leads to self-doubt. Now, I pay attention when faced with constructive criticism that offers room for improvement. However, if the feedback involves matters beyond my control and responsibility, I've realized it's more beneficial to let them go. The truth is, individuals who contribute so little these days aren't worth tolerating even the slightest hint of negativity.

[@Sensorium19]

Women in general adore liars. They adore the lie, and then after it's lived out its usefulness, they adore being able to say they were lied to so the responsibility isn't theirs. They're just a victim.

[@madbrax5184]

I watch these videos to help myself at this point. My wife is beyond submitting to any wrongdoing, she essentially just hates everyone. I just want you to know that you are helping me regardless of my situation and are helping me understand that all women aren't bad. Thank you Karyn...

[@oralriffey8285]

I have watched a lot of these type of videos since my wife left. I can"t understand why any man in his right mind would like to keep playing these games. This is just stupid I would rather be alone.

[@sammyb1651]

Well said!

[@mcc7762]

Exactly. When you get out, you stay out.

[@Karll541]

Trauma bond

[@dat581]

Yes my wife avoids dealing with pain and uncomfortable situations. This of course lets these situations build up and then boom!

[@jimjohnson394]

Like eating an elephant, it is better to deal with them one small piece at a time.

[@brettg274]

Women’s natural reaction is flight, not fight, when things happen they don’t want to face.

[@mcc7762]

They shut down conversation like they are shutting their legs.

[@davidseverin7764]

Thank you so much for articulating what I went through in my failed marriage and clarifying the truth and setting the gaslighting on fire to reveal what my instincts were telling me all along, but I never wanted to believe it. It's painful to go through dissolutions and discover that I was fooled and abused and made crazy. She brought out the absolute worst of me. There are a few good women out there. The fact that you can take responsibility and tell the truth like this and to be willing to take accountability like this is a testament to that. Keep up the good work!

[@smokingcrab2290]

You didn't want to believe it because you actually looked inward wondering if you did cause her behavior (as a good man does) but you didn't. And when she wouldn't look in the mirror, you still believed in the better version of her that never existed, because you loved her. Women are never who they say they are, and they're never who you build them up to be in your mind.

[@anthonywarren1317]

🎯💯

[@shayestevens6627]

Exactly my story. My grandfather told my dad a truth I never forgot that has been verified after half-a-lifetime of living with women, "A good woman can be married to a shittin' man and still be a good woman, but a shittin' women will make a shittin' man EVERYTIME." I once was a good man, a great guy to be around, but after 40 years of shittin' woman, I look in the mirror and say, "This is not who I really am. I hate me. Where is the me that once was." and I look back over the decades and see how the poison of women changed my personality just assuredly as if I was on crack. In fact, I was on "crack"... if you get what I mean.

[@redjw5223]

Another reason to avoid marriage. You would never have these problems if you’re a single man.

[@seaglass3034]

I watch all the married guys at the office go through this. Painful laughter by the water cooler, every day. I try to provide them some encouragement, but either I'm too young, or too out of touch (never been married) to be of any use. They won't or can't speak up for themselves, at home. I don't know what to do. Your openess on these matters, validates their suffering. Thank you.

[@jasonrix3691]

Similar experience with my ex.....went through about 4 years of my son thinking i was the problem...but now he's 19 and describes and tells the same story of little to no empathy from his mom.....shocking but sad as well....

[@CryptoKernels]

Ditto

[@redrhinoz2119]

That truly sucks for your son. My parents separated not to long after I became an adult. I can see that my mom hardly ever tried to empathize with my dad. But as a very caring mother, she did tried with me and my siblings. I thought sons were the only men women would learn to empathize with. Now I am not so sure to how many of them it applies.

[@clayclay95]

Karyn, Thank You so much for caring about the other 50% that is part of a relationship. We Love our wife and our family and we do everything we can to take care of our family, but nowadays it seems that no matter what we do, it is never enough. I am happy when she gets a Gucci purse while I get a plain sĥirt. I am happy working for my family 50 hrs a week but I am yelled at for getting home tired. I am happy to fix everything I can at home, even when it is raining, but I get screamed at for not leaving my mudded shoes outside. I am happy to be the main support at home when crisis hits us from every corner but I am frowned upon for not crying. (God only knows how much I would like to cry but I can't because I am expected to be the main support to lean on). We do this and more to keep a family together, but in the end, we are served with divorced papers. But now that I think about it, I should be really, really happy for those divorced papers left on my steering wheel at 5 in the morning. Thank you for those papers. Now, can I truly drive AWAY...

[@Eli-phunt]

I struggled to satisfy my ex wife for years, I thought maybe she was a narcissist, even our kids hold her at arms length these days. If you are telling me this is normal and it was all just typical female behavior, then I have made the right choice to remain single and reclusive all these past years. I spent years giving my best while being stuck to the bottom of someone's shoe and that dragged me lower than I have ever been. I haven't been depressed in years, I can't go back to that.

[@dukelps9132]

What did you finally do to get out? I am right where you used to be. I want out.

[@michaelsanchez8457]

Rock on. Have you read No More Mr Nice Guy?

[@jimjohnson394]

It's a spectrum. all women do this to some point. it is manageable for most women. For some, it is better to throw in the towel and move on.

[@goontubeassos7076]

If you treat her like a queen, she will treat you like a subject. You must be a king so that she can feel like a queen on her own. The man needs to be the prize, the adored. The woman needs to be the adorer of her king. I seriously think women don’t even know how queens were actually treated either. Maybe that should be a subject of a video how queens were actually treated. See if women still want to be treated like queens after that.

[@Eli-phunt]

@@dukelps9132 When I fell into a depression she left.

[@raamtselon]

I actually RESPECT a woman owning up and coming forward clean...accountability and transparency, makes a woman attrctive to me, while a good looking woman who is childish and in denile - turns me off. My wife was a bomb! But her childish ways turned me off. I couldnt tell her how gorgeous she was, because of her disrespect and unwillingness to own up... This is what happens when church teaches only love and grace, omitting Truth and accountability- shame on you.

[@robertscott911]

Great comment I am a pastor for a small church ⛪️ and getting women to self reflect is a dangerous pastime but someone has to do it as they are out of control wrecking marriages and church assembly's

[@smokingcrab2290]

It takes a real human being to take inventory of themselves and see where they fall short. My wife says "I'm trying" but she holds onto perceived hurts from me that she caused. Because she's the star of her own sob story. And she's got baggage from previous relationships. Rather than owning it and being better, she took on traits from her exes and uses them on me, expecting me to mold to her. But I know it's just her one bullshit, not mine. When a girl acts tough or acts like she's not broken, she's not trying to convince you, she's trying to convince herself

[@sahafiec]

same here...

[@stillnessinmotion81]

Church didn't do that

[@Proposal12]

You´re own fault for making her your wife. Should have vetted her first before making her your wife.

[@andremoreau7057]

About empathy: Some people think they have empathy when what they really have is their own personal emotions. Empathy is feeling the other person's emotion or point of view. There are many fewer people who have empathy than people who think they have empathy. About fighting: Are you fighting to win, or fighting to be understood?

[@robhulson]

Empathy is simple for me. It is the ability to correctly identify what a person who is different from me, with different priorities, might feel in a given situation. For women, they don’t need empathy to imagine what other women and children might feel in a given situation because they simply imagine themselves, as themselves, in the other person’s shoes and react accordingly. The real gold of genuine empathy is the ability to imagine what it might be like to be someone very different from oneself. No woman, save my current woman, has ever tried to appreciate honor my male perspective. And she knows that I do the same for her type of feminine perspective. Everybody else I’ve been with try and do empathy but it’s always felt off to me, like they’re not able to really think outside themselves.

[@andremoreau7057]

@@robhulson Thank you Rob for your answer. I think you understand quite well. I would like to offer a few nuances. Empathy, by definition of the word empathy, is the ability to FEEL someone elses emotions. Other people's emotions can be correctly identified through empathy AND by other means like observation and reasoning. The later is not empathy but it is just as useful. Moreover, it is not necessary to have empathy to communicate with and help someone. Sympathy is enough. When women, or men, imagine other people's emotions, they may or may not have empathy. Often, they have their own personal emotions and project them onto the other person. That is why many more people think that they have empathy than there are people who truly have empathy. Your last paragraph is correct and is a variation on this.

[@eatanotherzio6811]

When people call themselves empaths they're narcs When people call themselves assholes they're fair

[@damienthompson5808]

@@kc6810 You actually can. To some people it comes naturally. Its a gift. Most people confuse empathy and sympathy. Sympathy is to understand and care about anothers feelings, empathy is to share those feelings. Knowing how to repond, sometimes, that's another story.

[@nevisysbryd7450]

​@@andremoreau7057That is affective empathy, in contrast to cognitive empathy. Affective empathy does not exist. You cannot feel someone else's feelings. You can pick up on and induce comparable feelings in yourself-yet those are your feelings, not theirs. That is sympathy, not empathy.

[@OziBlokeTimG]

A lot of women talk a lot about empathy and all sorts of stuff. But struggle totally with actually physically actioning anything.

[@chrisburrows8606]

Spent 41 years with 2 narcissistic women, your content is so helpful for men doing their best to understand their partners and women in general, The truth hurts especially to the perpetrators

[@yarnarrutor9418]

In both of my two four-year LTRs, I stood up to this stuff and punished (through stonewalling and side remarks, sometimes) but I didn't know what I was dealing with. They were both feminists, so I upheld the expectation that they behave like a strong, independent woman capable of rational, accountable perspectives. I directly addressed double standards. It was a full-time battle with the 1st one and a quieter occasional battle with the 2nd one. I behaved like I was blue pilled but I was a closeted red pill guy the whole time. I read the Mars/Venus book both times and never have I seen an author dance around what the real score is. And that was the primary 'guide' supposedly for both sexes back then. The primary two red pill perspectives that would have helped were 1) don't hate female nature, hate the lies you've been told about it & 2) don't punish unaccountable perspectives & behavior verbally, set boundaries regarding women's solipsistic abuse without discussing them.

[@misterb3577]

I understand this deeply with my mother. My dad was verbally and physically abusive to us, and my mom was neglectful and controlling. I remember so much of my youth revolving around my mom's life; me and my siblings playing background characters to the life she lived traveling with her church group and pursuing her career goals. It's such a strange thing to think about. My dad beat me, yelled and criticized every thing I did, and laughed at me when I was overweight...but it still doesn't quite compare to the time back in high school when I learned that my mother forged a credit card in my name, lied about why she did it, and then verbally ripped me apart when I wouldn't stop asking about it. I only found out because the debt collectors were calling the house asking for me. Which meant that she used the credit card, and then didn't bother to even pay it off until I found out. And even there it took years for her to deal with it, leading to multiple blow-outs (one in which she ripped me a new one simply because I'd admitted I was scared to tell her about the debt letter I received in the mail...because I was afraid she'd get mad and rip me for reminding her of it). There's so, so much more of the things she did, but I'll say that she's never, to this day, acknowledged any of her actions. She owns her own business, so at least her career aspirations worked out somewhat, but I don't talk with her much, and I don't feel much need to even answer when she calls.

[@MagMar-kv9ne]

Horrible and deeply sad.

[@heliumcalcium396]

You were dealt some very bad cards.

[@misterb3577]

@heliumcalcium396 Yep. I had a mental breakdown in grad school, and it took me nearly 7 years to get back on my feet because not one person in my immediate family wanted to help me. Actually, my mom and dad made it worse because I was living with them (one and then the other) and I became a scapegoat for their problems. I'm moving forward now, living on my own, working, and studying for a certification, but I sometimes I'm haunted by the thoughts of what I could've been if I had a supportive family.

[@grannygrandma5185]

if I may quote: "when your husband asks you to watch my videos and listen to what I'm teaching, he is not doing it to try to make wrong and bad. He is fighting for you and he is fighting for the relationship. He will love nothing more than to have his wife back that he married and would love nothing more to have the woman again that he fell in love with coz good men actually really do fall in love with us." 3:30 to 3:59 a must see and certainly one of the most true, pure, powerful and iconic statements I have ever heard in regards to relationships. If a woman is not convinced by this there is no relevant relationship to save. Personally this is many years too late for me, but I just recently found interest in modern day views on relationships due to my kids having grown up and confronting their old man with this stuff :) keep up the great work Karyn, you are a true inspiration

[@volpeverde6441]

I was married for 16 years UNTIL I had an ACCIDENT at WORK.... and became DISABLED....then my wife DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME....she took everything....

[@marlonwilson702]

😮may she reap what she's sown😒smh. That's evil man. May God bless you brother 🙏

[@TheThinkingMathematician]

I have a solution for you

[@Ekam-Sat]

Sorry brother. Same thing happened to me. Brutal.

[@marsewolfe3989]

Have an accident, you'll find out where you stand in your marriage.

[@TheBassPlayer100]

My story as well.

[@alter3go411]

When I saw how my daughter go to school at around 6 years old and see how girls treat and interact with each other it finally hit me, If you spend decades refining these behaviours you start to understand and a lot started to make sense to me about women my age.

[@jonnjones8263]

This is why you don't tell women your feelings in the first place. It's a waste of time.

[@dukewilliam3660]

It can be weaponized against you.

[@jonnjones8263]

@@dukewilliam3660 That too. No matter how "nice" they say they are, she will absolutely use it against the moment an opportunity arises. Thats how all women are.

[@55tmilam]

Yes it’s a trap!!! They will tell you to open up then use it against you!!! They may mentally store the weakness and use it on you at a latter time!!!!

[@EvilGoodGuy]

I've never been married and I'm not even in a relationship, but I've seen a couple of your videos and it makes me think about my dad. He gets treated quite badly by my mother. Which is an odd thing to say and thing to observe, because my mom otherwise is a very nice, reserved, and sensible person. My dad had a bit of a temper when he was younger and can be annoying at times. I think we can all be annoying in ways. So she's put up an impenetrable wall like a lot of women do if their life isn't perpetual happiness like they imagined in their fantasy. But i genuinely feel for him because he constantly tries to placate my mother and extend branches to make their relationship better and she always tears him down and humiliates him for even daring to try. He's a good man and I wish my mom would allow herself a bit of humility and empathy so that they could allow themselves to be happier than they are. It's obvious he cares about both their happiness and I'm amazed that he keeps on trying.

[@RS-ms1bz]

Humility and empathy is rarely given my women.

[@jgillette98]

It’ll stop one day when he can’t tolerate any more sadly. I know.

[@mcc7762]

He needs to get away from her. She is not going to change. She can blame everything on his temper, but I will guarantee she is most times the cause of his anger.

[@ronmexico8383]

Leave a note for your dad that reads. “Thank you for setting a good example and I see your effort.” It will mean the world to him.

[@misterb3577]

"my mom is a very nice, reserved, and sensible person." If that's how she treats your dad behind closed doors, then she's not as nice, reserved, and sensible as you think. That's just the outside mask.

[@bigvize8782]

Just saw this. I am a young man and I’m not facing these issues but I know dozens of men that are facing these problems personally. It’s crazy. Great channel.

[@AndrewTheFrank]

This goes to think I often talk about that I think many seem to always miss. Women are easy to understand once you realize its all about feelings management. That its all about avoiding looking or feeling like a bad person. This means that often the solution for dealing with women is to frame things in a manner that allows them to feel good. Its why that often, even though people are usually the reason for their own problems, the way to approach things is to say, "its not your fault". A thing to note is that women seem to only relate to things through themselves and their own experiences. Its as if most women can't talk about anything without first involving themselves in it. Even if only tangentially. Likewise I think this is how they relate to others and to situations. If something isn't boosting them then it must be an avoidance or an attack. All of this is kind of foreign to us guys because we tend to talk about things in a more removed and abstract manner. Even if talking about ourselves. This is probably why men are far more poetic and romantic because its not making everything about ourselves.

[@vryc]

The two reasons I married my wife (of now over 26 years) is because she's the only woman I've ever met to be completely honest... about everything (sometimes that hurts, but it's the only way to get to truth which begets a better life) and she's the only woman I've ever heard admit when she's wrong. My mother never did, my sister never did, her mother never has, her sisters never have. I have no idea where she got this from as her father is a blunt but "always right" kind of man. It's like she's missing the module for dishonesty and the admission of wrongdoing brain-component is hardwired to her mouth.

[@wishiwasoffline]

Lucky man. Nice to hear there are women like that out there. Makes me keen to start looking

[@alexrad9570]

She is sigma female, the best personallity and rarest, mine too.

[@kenthil]

Welp; showed my wife this video, and she reacted exactly how I expected her to. Just cemented in my mind that I'm making the correct choice in divorcing her. I'm done.

[@mikeharris8301]

I’ve sent some of your videos to my wife. My wife’s biggest concern is that she’s not certain that she can listen to you if you’re not a Christian. I explained to her truth is truth. I encourage her not to use faith as a reason not to grow and become the wife, I married. Thank you for your faithfulness to teach.

[@Eric-dd8bk]

Well, all she preaches is in line with biblical wives. Your wife just wants to discredit her and use Christianity as an excuse to not listen to her.

[@wishiwasoffline]

More excuses.

[@WilliamWiest1959]

If your wife is a Christian you should run while you still have legs !

[@55tmilam]

The ole excuse before even trying routine

[@dustinquinton]

A lot of women won’t watch your videos because a lot of them are not accountable. And without someone being accountable, history will repeat itself

[@smokingcrab2290]

My wife disrespected me over a certain event because I didn't read her mind. I walked her through how the event went play-by-play forcing her to acknowledge how it went. Down to the nitty gritty of what happened. She got mad at me because I didn't assume her dad needed help with something that he clearly had handled on his own. I figured if he needed help he would have asked (bringing some steaks in from the grill). I told her "I can't read anyone's mind. If you want help it's your responsibility to ask. I don't know your dad well enough to ask him if he needs help with something as easy as bringing some steaks in." i told her that's how communication works. You say something and you get the other person to understand it. And then you can get what you need as a result. She got even madder telling me that my reasoning is a total "copout" and that I'm just "making excuses to not help anyone" because I was "raised to be lazy" and I didn't come from such a "hardworking family" like hers. In short, she got mad at me for the most bullshit possible reason, expected me to read her mind about it, then when confronted accurately and gently about it, she doubled down and justified her narcissistic expectations. All because I didn't help her dad bring some steaks in from the grill 10 feet away from the door...

[@dustinquinton]

@@smokingcrab2290 this is just my opinion. There has to be consequences for someone’s actions. Once those consequences are given to that disrespectful individual, they will in turn, eventually stop with the disrespecting. Every time disrespect (action) happens, consequence will be given. I don’t f with disrespectful people. People who fear someone will not disrespect them. Fear can be physical, but not always. I’m not suggesting to physically harm someone, but make them fear you, ie, take away time/attention, resources, assisting with things, etc.

[@EpicAelflaed]

So true, most women will not like to listen to the truth as they don’t take responsibility nor accountability for their actions. Though they will have no problem telling you where you went wrong, even if you did the right thing

[@dustinquinton]

@@EpicAelflaed exactly!

[@clearpill]

Just learned about your channel. It's too late for me, but thanks for doing this. Many men will find solace in hearing your message. Not sure if you've covered this but it should be said that if a woman is not in the mood, she needs to be very careful about how she turns him down. Rolling eyes, wincing, showing signs of disgust, or physically pushing away, or getting one of those giant pillows that wraps around your hole body (often used during pregnancy), or tucking the sheets underneath herself so that the man doesn't have physical access, can pretty much seal the deal. A man, or a good man, is really turned off by the idea of having sex with a woman that is not attracted to him. And it should be noted that women are masters of passive aggressiveness and can through these subtle signals get a man to behave exactly like she wants. And consequently get him to never approach or initiate ever again. Added bonus is she can now blame him for the sexless marriage.

[@steveretiredandcranky]

Great post

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

cheat

[@clearpill]

@@selvamani1973-p7b divorced

[@r.9874]

"good men have no malice" .... so true. I have had more "church" women hurt me than I hurt them. Good men are not about drama, so I don't chase you or stalk you. Women killed everything about love, romance, and the journey to fall in love. I have female so called "friends" that haven't called me in years. Women have no empathy. You suppose to care for them, they don't have to care for you. Women, when was the last time you just contacted a good guy you knew just to check on them? Yeah, good guys want to feel wanted or thought about too.

[@theinvestigativemillennial9381]

They won't they want unconditional love while only giving unconditional hate.

[@shayestevens6627]

Feminazi ways have been inculcated into all Christian Churches. It goes something like this. Wife: "God gave you the responsibility of a wife and family, therefore, a woman's happiness should be your priority. That's your assignment. And if your wife is unhappy, then you sir, are NOT a righteous man!" Churchmen: "That's right! The mark and SIGN of a righteous man is that his wife is happy! Brother, you are in the Wrong! We can tell. Just listen to her!" Huband: "Forgive me of my sin. Tell me what more I must do." Churchmen: "Listen to her in all things. Do what she says." Wife: "Yeh, I told you so sinner. God is on my side not yours." Husband: "ohhhh, please save me from Hell." (wailing and beating himself). THE NEW BIBLE: And the Goddess shall rule over God, and She, the Lord of the One Ring, shall rule over All, even the Son of Man. And the world of men shall fall.

[@TruthTiger]

These women are not fixable, from what I’ve seen divorce is the only way forward. You have to get out, plain and simple.

[@clint120]

when you are told you are just too sensitive. Or you’re told to get over it, or told why does that bother you? and you have to walk on eggshells to explain. No wonder guys give up.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

was she like this when you first met?

[@OldChief3854]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is being told that.

[@nathangunter7532]

All of these comments are so powerful with honesty and truth. In one way, shape or form, I could relate to many of them personally. As an artist and musician , I can say we are definitely living in very strange and difficult times …… Blessings to all 🌹

[@ntl219]

Most women avoid accountability and responsibility. Men step in to save the relationship and do what the women want. However, the minute their need is met, they lose respect for their men. The men’s logic brain can’t comprehend the women’s primal instinct. A good woman is the one who admit to your statement and are willing to change.

[@SayfumaniMyG]

*wants is met

[@108MCruz]

when that starts happening you dont do what she says, the man must step back into leader role and command the woman to shape up or hit the road

[@brianclark4040]

It’s a paradigm shift because I was never taught that I had to lead the relationship. I learned my lesson late in the game. My parents had pretty set areas they dealt with so they didn’t conflict with each other. Maybe my dad’s leadership was so good I didn’t realize he was doing it! I assumed (wrongly) that I lead by example and service. Something needs to happen, it gets done! Although in order to lead you have to have someone who agrees to work with you and doesn’t fight you. People are not taught relationship skills and then we wonder why we fail at relationships.

[@mcc7762]

This is why many young men and boys now have no interest in marriage. They have watched this nonsense with their mothers, grandmothers, aunts, etc. for years.

[@iamsyourdadi]

@@brianclark4040 Preach. I just got married and i keep asking what this leadership thing is. This space tells me i have to be a leader in the relationship but i don't know what that is or how it looks like practically. Anything you can recommend? Resources to read or check out possibly?

[@scottcoley1906]

I'm not even married but I felt this cause I have watched some of my male friends go through it trying to keep a ungrateful woman they loved.

[@heliumcalcium396]

That... really sums it up perfectly.

[@RedMan-zy3kz]

The ex that desperately needs this message would have absolutely crucified me if i told her to watch this video. Same woman who got mad and stormed out on me when my best friend died because i was "making the night all about me". Which really made me curious as to how this lack of empathy came to be, because its not an isolated incident, at this point its a humanitarian crisis

[@CarlosAndresR]

Like the gentleman below ... I suffered for 12 years with 2 herniated discs and a bulge disc... my exwife used to say that "it was psychological" or that "you are using this as an excuse to not help more".. or "thats nothing" and the classic one "you are a drama queen"... 12 years later I ended up in back surgery... 4 days later i was back at home.. 2 days later she was bi4c*ing at me becauee i had not mown the lawn.. I was like... "i have to not do anything for 9 months.. surgeon orders".. "no bending.. no lifting.. no twisting... no pushing..." look at the point she took me with all the years of abuse... trying to justify something as evident and obvious as a surgery... surgery she knew about.. took me to... ridiculous Horrible.. obviously she is the ex now... but the abuse was for years.. i was never good enough for anything.

[@pureprairie1]

I've heard that negative emotions are stored in the lower back. Maybe a connection?

[@fakshen1973]

I had knee surgery. I got to rest for one day. That's all I was alloted before getting back to my duties. How dare I be so selfish when the crutches were right there.

[@TheBassPlayer100]

Same here. 6 back surgeries, one heart attack and then heart surgery. She still thinks I’m faking it. Been separated for a while.

[@CarlosAndresR]

Jesus lord.. ​@TheBassPlayer100

[@thabulos]

This is the most relatable channel in my life at the moment.

[@JaiHind-bb8pj]

I told my ex wife that I would continue treating her like a queen if she would treat me as a king. I was fed up of her wanting to be king and queen in the relationship.

[@74GenX]

What was her response? How did things pan out?

[@JaiHind-bb8pj]

@@74GenX She threw a bloody hissy fit.

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

@@JaiHind-bb8pj LOL, that's why she's your ex-wife and not your wife.

[@damionhenry6730]

I'm going through a divorce, You are a God sent!!! I have been telling her some of the same things you are talking about for years! And now are getting a divorce, she cheated, Have no remorse or empathy!!! So i filled. Smh one the most disgusting behavior i ever seen. But i will be ok, just Worried about my children. Smh. Please continue to do that you're doing for good men, and good women who wants to be good wife! Thanks you😊

[@brianbergen887]

Good show. It's amazing how women are all about their emotions, except when it comes to controlling them. You talk about your feelings constantly, but you don't spend a lot of time looking inward and get a handle on them. Men have grown up with testosterone inside of them, fueling their anger. There are times that you want to pick up something and beat someone with it because there are consequences. You learn to control that. That's why men walk away when they're angry. They want to calm down. We look inside ourselves and see if we're doing the right thing. Women seem to do the opposite. You don't look inside because it can't be your fault, it has to be someone else. As far as controlling your anger, you lash out and try to inflict harm.

[@Shan21.]

I recently discovered this channel and everything is starting to make sense now. Which is why they belong in therapy :) seriously, imagine projecting your own misery, insecurities and fears onto others- and then justify abuse on top of that

[@wishiwasoffline]

Fabulous channel Karen. Almost certainly the best videos I've seen speaking directly to women, but even more for men about the passive sexual and intimacy aggression we deal with in our daily lives. Men have not got the mental map that can frame this anger and the distracting excuses and fiery denials that last over a stone cold life-time. We are truely baffled that someone in our lives could hold out forever (for me almost 10 final years of a 32 year marriage before I left), where we never get the chance to express our emotions, and are rebuffed with confusing streams of what did seem to be made up problems and unreal excuses. It comes as an enormous shock to hear you unmask these thing, but on reflection, many of us know it is true, even if we are really only hearing and absorbing it for the first time. On another matter - I know you said elsewhere your number subscribers was a bit low, but I hope you keep going for all our sakes. I'm sure I speak for many others the impact of these videos is enormous, and you will change many lives. Thank you.

[@landerwyoming9720]

Brilliant comment, thank you for sharing and recognizing Karen's work/videos. Wishing you all the best.

[@thomasrudy6132]

Karyn your message is reaching places around the world. The Filipina Pea from the Philippines did a nice little notice and endorsement of your channel on her latest video, she is definitely a fan of your teachings. Thank you, keep up the good work.

[@CRose9205]

As a man, when you deal with women enough, you realize that they are the problem in relationships. I know there are abusive men, evil men. But those are that small percentage of men. With women, there's a far larger percentage that will make your life hell for almost no reason. Every guy at my work complains about it, whereas the women complain that "my husband took the kids out to eat without me." The comparison just isnt equal.

[@lonniejolly5882]

They love evil man. Before they married the nice guy they slept with all the bad boys.

[@jgamby5]

You are So Perfectly Accurate at min 3:40 when you say "when your husband asks you to watch my videos, it's b'c he's fighting for you, he's fighting for the marriage." So true. I have no desire to be right. I have no desire to make my amazing wife, who I love so much, wrong. I want only the best for us and to grow together. God knows (and so does my wife) I have so much to improve... AND I want to be the best I can for her and our family. I want to be the best me for me (too)! Thank you!!!

[@kehindesamuel8224]

I feel that way several times that my wife doesn't have feelings for me. She more excited when she saw her mum compared to when am with her, she left me alone at home to go and spend Christmas and New year with her mum. Infact her constant absence from home becomes obvious to everyone and I can't hide my feelings. I never dream of this loneliness marriage.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

You have to make her work for your affection. People don't value what's free and accessible

[@Pookabee]

​@@selvamani1973-p7blove and affection should be free in a marriage. This is so wrong.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

@@Pookabee nothing is free, there's always an exchange. Try not providing for a while, she'll shame you and eventually leave.

[@Pookabee]

@@selvamani1973-p7b I know it.

[@lonniejolly5882]

She cheating on you.

[@NhamshahSpah-ky-id6jo]

At this point, I don’t even know if I am a “good man”. After the knee-jerk rejection for years, I found out that the opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference. If she left, the kids and I would just move on. I grieved “up front”. She wanted to be married. But, I don’t think she wanted to be a wife. Perhaps she did with the one that she was with before me. I don’t know.

[@andersnielsen6044]

A really harsh truth that has to be said is, that a good man would never accept to be treated like that by anyone.. What she talks about is not good men but weak men with a huge amount of traumas that has put them in a position where they for years live in these toxic relationships.

[@NhamshahSpah-ky-id6jo]

@@andersnielsen6044 I grew up in a family where my parents divorced when we were teenagers. Mother remarried to a man with kids about the same age. Knowing that, I would not divorce my my wife. My children will not deal with a step-anything, so long as I am alive. “Weak”? I can see why you would say that. I see it as protection of my children from whoever my wife would move in. I’ve seen how the family courts operate. No way am I rolling the dice on custody. That’s where the indifference comes in. I’ve made it so that I do what I want, not caring if I am “punished”; because the punishment is neglect. But, the neglect just looks like my life before I lived with a woman. I have my own pursuits and passions. It saddens me that she doesn’t want to join us.

[@andersnielsen6044]

@@NhamshahSpah-ky-id6jo At least of all - your children does not benefit from having a father this weak with no integrity.. Kids deserve an adult male role model!

[@NhamshahSpah-ky-id6jo]

@@andersnielsen6044 Yea, like my father? He left and the horde moved in. But, at least he got laid regularly. Good for HIM. Because that’s the measure of a strong role model(?); not putting up with a woman who don’t put out. F-- them kids.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

Women don't want marriage. They want a Wedding Day.

[@spinnetti]

You've got great content, but I haven't experienced any woman in my life that would ever have enough introspection to consider any of this - and I had 4 sisters. Same outcomes in every case. I'd share your stuff with my wife but, A. She'd never consider watching it, B. I'm just "blaming" her for whatever, and C. Whatever problems there are are my fault anyway. Pretty sure its hopeless. I just lack the bravery to bail out after near 40 years. Most men are simple and many of you get the outcomes you force to happen.

[@brettg274]

Yah, if I show this to my wife then I’m critical and judgmental.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

change comes from you not this video

[@Sal834]

Wife's reaction to video: "What is wrong with you! This is not me! Don't you know all I do for you and this family! I think you need really help. You're living in a fantasy. I will see about setting you up with counseling as you need real help." Gentlemen, good luck!

[@ripley7t429]

Yep, I went to therapy to deal with some issues, both related to and not related to the marriage. A female therapist as well. She told me to run and not look back. I did not expect that.

[@mrsherwood2599]

Wow, what a borderline nut job. So sorry.

[@balladbuster5109]

Someone commented that you set boundaries and punish any overstepping without any discussion. Discussing it will lead to gaslighting. Actions speak louder than words.

[@mcc7762]

@@ripley7t429 ...Most decent therapists will. They remind us that children are resilient, and can handle the break-up better than anyone might think. Therapists know when you are toiling with a lost cause.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

you need boundaries or she'll gaslight you again

[@hansmeier3287]

We men have to realize that it is crucial to love and respect ourselves first. Not depending on the love of a woman, of anyone, makes you a man. Otherwise you d remain a boy, looking back to his mother. Now, being a man, we have to look at women as opportunities for fun and children, too, as they always did when looking at us.

[@antongruber5978]

Not only do i wish for my wife to watch and learn , your videos are recommended to my daughter's as well. Not to say they are experiencing difficult relationships with their husbands but to enlighten them with the knowledge so difficulties in their relationships are prevented. I'm hoping the content of your video it's going to bring light to my difficult relationship.

[@BessieRiggs]

The hell with that. I had a wife who pinned all of her unhappiness on me. All of it. Even when she had shared the things in her life that created the emotional scars she got from her parents at a young age, she told the marriage counselor that it was me and my behaviors that left her feeling hurt. The assignment was to share something from out childhood. She wouldn’t do it. She even stopped seeing an individual counselor while I was away on a deployment after a month because she decided that the counselor had nothing useful left to tell her. I continued seeing mine because it was needed. So again, when I see this type of behavior and emotional abuse and manipulation, I walk. I don’t have the desire to deal with this kind of women’s bs.

[@kbenk108]

yes fighting for the relationship is so important. I don't think people realize how devastating divorce is to the children. Recently I was watching a reality tv show, and in practically all the bios they were talking about their upbringing and how divorce of their parents negatively effected them. Trust me if you can work on the relationship and have your marriage last, your kids will all turn out amazing.

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

I shared the video and it didn't end well.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

Now you know why (almost) all of the comments in the comment section are by men. I'm currently playing "spot the female name" as I scroll down the comments.

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

@missandry5178 my wife told me this morning she's filing for divorce. I really don't see the win.

[@cw4933]

Maybe when she says she’s filing she’s using it as a threat because she feels attacked by you calling her out.

[@ripley7t429]

I was in your shoes a couple years ago. She is probably sparing you from years of emotional abuse and torment, only to arrive at this conclusion anyway. I feel like I wasted 10-15 years of my life trying to make this work. Dont be like me and have years that go by and regret not leaving.

[@wascawywabbit0987]

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor You will. It took me two years to go from the worst thing to ever happen to me to the best thing to ever happen to me.

[@getnthru]

When the video started with, “we don’t want conflict”, I couldn’t help but think of my wife, like, “Yeah, right. She loves conflict!” She’ll find ANYTHING to fuss over!

[@purplesprigs]

"We don't want conflict" ??? Nothing could be further from the truth. They LIVE for drama.

[@alangifford9]

I've shared some of your videos with my wife. She watched 5 minutes of one video. She wouldn't watch anymore. It broke my heart... Again. That was the last straw. I'm moving her out this weekend and I'm getting divorced.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

good choice, cheers to freedom

[@shayestevens6627]

Before you do, check out Paul Elam. You'll need to set yourself up in the right way without tipping your hand or she will take most everything you've got! Love yourself.

[@daveshore8671]

Narcissism. Women described here are narcissists

[@mcc7762]

Absolutely.

[@BlueFish-kq9fh]

@daveshore8671 : Most women are narcissists. To various levels of severity (mild to severe) hey have the elements of the Dark Triad personality disorder: Narcissism, Psychopathy and Machiavellinism.

[@orangeandslinky]

This is all true Karen. We average men miss our wives. We miss the hope of love and family. Women, you broke all of this. It is against the law for us to fix this. You have to fix it. When you explained the female light switched, it made all our manosphere stuff into a fact. It is a very sad truth, but unless the laws are changed, there is no way we can re-enter a trust with women again.

[@mcc7762]

The feminist movement caused all of this. Women need to reject all of that nonsense for anything to ever change.

[@smokingcrab2290]

The most personally devastating thing I've ever endured in my life is acknowledging the truth that my wife will never love me the way she promised, yet I have to love her even greater than how I promised. I will never actually find what I'm looking for in her, or in any woman. I'm stuck with nothing but the bleak thought of what could have been while turning to the Almighty in desperate hope of relief.

[@orangeandslinky]

@@smokingcrab2290 Wow, I totally get and feel the same way! I do not understand why you say you have to love her even greater than how you promised though. If you get time, will you help me understand that? I was married 35 years, then my wife left with no discussion at all. I just thought she went to the store or something. We were 60 years old when she left. That was 10 years ago. I met her in high school. We met as Christians and lived as Christians. We home schooled our son from K to Grad together. We were never in debt and always had more than our needs met. I gave thanks to God for her very often. I never even thought about divorce or being alone in my later years unless she died. We entered into Holy Matrimony and so, as you know there are many spiritual implications in that kind of marriage. No adultery or fornication ever happened at all. I never seen or heard her voice again. I got a divorce paper served to me and was shocked at that. In court, my wife had her lawyer speak for her so I didn't even get to ask her why she left. I still don't know. Psychiatrists (male ones only) call this "The Walk Away Wife Syndrome," and they told me they see it often. This could be happening to you. What they said is, that the wife actually emotionally divorces you but stays in the home for various personal reasons, until she walks away. The husband never sees it coming at all. The MD's say it usually happens after your children are born. So as we learned from this video, the woman just turns the light switch of being a wife off. You were and are just a sperm donor to her and you were from the very beginning. The vows and oaths to God mean absolutely nothing to the woman at all.

[@wishiwasoffline]

@@smokingcrab2290 Time to go. The Almight will watch over you. Many of us are going through it. It's a test and there is light on other side.

[@sana-cm7oc]

Men miss kindness.

[@sonderman8079]

Early in our marriage I faced two traumatic experiences in my life. One the death of a family member, and the second a couple of months later finding out that my younger brother was a bad drug addict. I received zero empathy from my wife of one year.

[@wishiwasoffline]

If you haven't got kids yet, pack your bags and get out now, or it will last a lifetime. Take what you have learned and go find a better woman. Be clear for yourself what level of empathy you need from day 1, and lead a real life.

[@androidphone6880]

How is it she reads my mind and speaks my words? These videos are trippy and make me cry.

[@michaelrickels7386]

I can't imagine my wife learning anything from your videos. It became quite apparent soon after the wedding that she really only wanted a sperm donor and a meal ticket. I freely admit that I have not been the best husband, but it's shameful that she can't be supportive of or helpful to me. She has also taught herself to blame me for everything, because she can't bear to feel responsible for something bad.

[@bernarduscairncross2221]

I've just shared your videos with my Wife, wish me good luck. Thank you for this amazing content. Really eye opening stuff.

[@1realtruthrightnow742]

My now ex wife, she never ever would say she was sorry, never admitted when she was wrong, Whatever bad that was going on it was either my fault or someone else's, even though she was the one that caused the issues. When I tried to talk to her she was outright mean and cruel. It was maddening. I can't believe with what I put up with. In my mind "if I love her more" than somehow it would break this horrible behavior. Nope. The more I tried the more abusive and insane she became.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

in relationship the opposites work today. they talk about the guy who didn't treat them right as opposed to the good man

[@heliumcalcium396]

Never said she was sorry? I recently thought back on my life and counted the women who apologized. Not just girlfriends, _all_ the women I've known, and I counted only the ones who had made at least one _real_ apology. I must say I feel grateful to both of them.

[@1realtruthrightnow742]

@@heliumcalcium396 Not once, no exaggeration.

[@uredskivid]

My wife has zero accountability. When her feet are held to the fire , she wants grace and forgiveness - typical Christian bull shit . Then its back to the same old idiocy .Wants me to "fight' for her " , like hell .The Philippines are looking better everyday .

[@user-gp5yh7eg4z]

I'll tell you what my mother told all the Christian wives who were married to good men 30 years ago. Get out. At least we have right on our side when we leave.

[@UntoldCanada]

I shared one of your video with my wife, and she yelled at me and vows to never watch any of the videos I send. She is abusive, yells at, dismissive, not accountable of everything, everything she screwed up with family n children is all my fault ..

[@racebannon96]

If you stick around with this one, you will be walking on egg shells all the time.

[@UntoldCanada]

I agree. I just do not like my little kids suffer because of her. Thats what is killing me from inside@@racebannon96