Lackluster Debut from Bad Villain Disappoints Fans

Lackluster Debut from Bad Villain Disappoints Fans
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[@NewLifenpc]

Lack of recognition and 40 ml on a debut video don’t ends up in my head

[@FearlessBunnyy]

i think they maybe payed for views

[@ensorcelledsee55]

@@FearlessBunnyyNo, they promoted like every other kpop group z

[@MERETSEYE]

Nothing can end up in your head because you’re as slow as a rock

[@H3llo_kittyy7]

Well there was alot of ads so that’s probably why

[@Human-eg7yf]

Its normal bruh​@@FearlessBunnyy

[@ensorcelledsee55]

Why would you people have high standards for a group under a small company? that’s on you! leave bad villain alone they only debuted a week ago!

[@LxuiicasLabels]

PREACH❤❤

[@AmiAki]

Absolutely no one has big expectations from a group in a small Company , KZbinrs be making shit up

[@Euphoria_365]

I feel they R doing a bit better now

[@olig6339]

yes bpm is a very small company lmao. what??? taemin has joined bpm and even viviz are from this company

[@user-kk2lj3zu7p]

​@@olig6339taemin was in SM before, now he counts as a small artist. Viviz was always nugu. What are you talking about?

[@youilue]

please stop making things up. there was nothing but praise for their debut and badvillain is doing great at the moment. the only people who had an issue with it were chronically online YG stans who were accusing badvillain of plagiarism and set up accounts who hate on everything.

[@hi.raya_]

it’s not an accusation when they really used their music… concepts, photos can be copied but using the same exact music? That’s plagiarism right there.

[@ensorcelledsee55]

@@hi.raya_ what are you even on about

[@cannycounter]

​@@hi.raya_Do you think you are smarter than the company? Yg didn't do anything about this issue nor post an article about this because this isn't an issue at all. Stop making accusations, your actions will reflect to babymonster and to their company. I'm a baemon fan, but I never think nor accused them about plagiarizing since having similarities in kpop industry is really common. Be matured guys, act like one.

[@moonintheblue]

⁠@@hi.raya_ I don’t think it’s plagiarism but maybe it’s inspiration also I agree with the comment above me that if it were plagiarism towards YG, then that company would’ve already reported or say something about it weeks ago

[@KimKim-np3dr]

​@@hi.raya_just besides the track, the concept isn't plagiarism, I've seen many groups use that concept, and the black and shadow pictures, nct did the same thing a few years back, so is babymonster copying nct?

[@daerincakes]

They're from a smaller company. They're not going to have the budget that the big *3* has. You need to stan groups out of the big *3* if this is what you call dissapointing

[@nara_raven]

For me thats amazing that badvillain have dance team vibe, thats what I want from kpop group

[@armyshope]

Yes

[@1718Dance]

Being from a small label, doesn’t mean groups can’t meet high expectations cause I give them a break. They just freaking debuted. These girls are talented. Are gonna take the world by storm. Keep in mind. Kiss of life had a rough start but they’re doing really well.

[@miaemblem8072]

UNKNOWN?! Two of them were Amazing on the survival show "My teenage girls"

[@deannaw9128]

This seems untrue

[@screamprincess_m]

Dont know where any of this is coming from. But these ladies are amazing and talented and beautiful, and I'll proudly support them!

[@user3-v5u]

What are you talking about their debut song was literally trending on KZbin and TikTok at least in the kpop community.. it was all over my fyp when it was first released

[@nanditahalder7200]

Tho their song is stuck in my head 24/7

[@ATWTMVTVFTVSGAVRALPS]

They already stood out. That was an explosive debut that focused on their performance ability!

[@bplovelove3119]

I don’t think it was lackluster. I just think it wasn’t appealing to the Korean community. Korean people are looking for that cute pretty girl group that is fun and innocent. And bad villian has that dark concept and rebelling Korea type of music. Black villian music would be praised by other countries though.

[@crystalheart8007]

I have seen nothing but praise and love for bv from the music to their dance❤ they will just continue to rise theyve only just debuted

[@amt6732]

Lackluster? WDYM?

[@Ruby_Spacek]

What, they are popping off in a lot of ways. I love them already.

[@genericusername9147]

Am I the only one who really liked their debut, maybe I’m uncultured but it felt like one of the more unique debuts from the year so far

[@kpopically]

Imo their debut was great but they need to have bigger promotions

[@aouboomsail]

I think the pre debut video just got viral cause of Emma and people thinking that former RUnext Jiwoo, Chanelle, Hyewon and Jihyun are gonna debut along with Emma, Yunseo and Inhye

[@yoon9521]

I swear Kpop fans are so used to see the success level of Big 4 idols, these people will be severely disappointed when they started working and don't receive any offers like what they imagined

[@jkittykawaii]

The economy is bad right now (at least in the USA) and people are struggling with money, so that could explain album sales, people now a days have to decide if they need to buy food or gas for their car because prices of everything is so high right now..I love BV and would love to purchase both the versions of their albums if I can get the funds for them, but would probably have to buy one version at a time.

[@Fullsun37.5]

That's sad they are so amazing though 😢

[@jessycardiente2368]

I think I know the other girl. She joined survival girl group before with classy right?

[@oncextokki]

Hue (aka inhye) and Yunseo were MTG contestants

[@n4nb0ksb3rr1]

omfg their music is so good ??!??!? how can u say u dont like it?!!!!!?!!!!!!?!?!!?!!?! jail to whoever tries to say they dont like bad villian

[@woonyur7056]

I absolutely loved this debut! Idc what anyone says… it was the perfect debut… very catchy, so fluid in the dance. Just 10/10

[@belisa9758]

I really loved their debut I'll be tuning in They just need time to grow aka organic growth

[@Kiwiwii0]

Tbh I liked their debut but I wish they had released a song like +82 for their debut or something or badtitude as the title track for the first album

[@Expensive-op6pn]

Oh they were doing well until their music show performances where they struggled and fans abandoned them😅. They’ve improved though so I hope next debut will be better.

[@Dane-p9d]

This is the first girl group that I can actually say that I love in 5th gen ❤. Their concept is exactly what I been waiting for from a girl group,and their vocal are very different from any of the other groups that have just recently debuted. I think that they are going to make big it just may take sometime because they are from a smaller company, and smaller companies have smaller budgets.

[@paubasurto3332]

Well they are wrong because they did not copy anybody they are all talented and beatiful their loss

[@LxuiicasLabels]

Copying BABYMONSTER? BABYMONSTER wouldnt even be that popular if they werent under YG and had half their fans be BLINKS. There not the only one to create Red room. The only thing i see is similar is that white background photo. It's not about VISUALS FUCK, why do people never care about the MUSIC, THE MUSIC LEAVE #BADVILLAIN alone KNETZ

[@idab9949]

Most of this isnt true, theyre insanley talented and popular, theyre getting more and more popular

[@threerrific2.0]

well talents are nothing if you don't have good music

[@justmebruna7708]

I love so much badvillain concept, and the song badvillain, I don't like very much the others songs like hurricane or battitude, but badvillain is my favorite song at the moment emma is so talented and charismatic, her expressions too

[@mysterymischief4946]

you thought you ate so hard girlie you didn't even go grocery shopping

[@РадиславаЯнковская]

Best debut of the kpop! 🔥🛐

[@scotka]

they have exceeded everyone’s expectations……. just stop lying

[@moraeine]

What are you talking about...? Kelly is an exceptionally beautiful figure in the K-pop industry. Unlike the popular V-shaped faces in Korea, she has a captivating jawline and an outstanding figure. She epitomizes the ideal eight-head-body proportion.

[@yoonyoongi5256]

I feel like it's because of the copying and stuff

[@sheriemae4705]

BV DEVOURED! YOU JUST HAVE NO TASTE! 😉

[@coffeebean4356]

I like their songs. I agree with visual and lack of individuality comments. Nothin really stands out there tbh

[@MarryMeRm]

Can’t lie with them I was disappointed in badvillain song I mean it’s still growing on me but it just not it rn and also they do feel like more like a dance group to me then idols but hey I don’t hate them they just debut they still need time to get there!

[@indianchopper1]

I knew about the babymonster accusations but some said that its just entertainment's style to introduce a new gg. Acc to netizens, badvillain's company also used the same red background to introduce viviz. Viviz debuted before baemon so netizens also accused baemon of copying viviz. But despite the controversy, i hope the badvillain gains recognition among the 5th gen because da gurls are talented

[@antyyy27806]

Shut up with the misinformation

[@roselly3122]

What’s the back music thts playin in this vid?

[@leahpeachie]

Sorry for off-topic but what’s the song used as the background music in this vid? 😅

[@Irislouise9]

triples - girls never die

[@leahpeachie]

@@Irislouise9 thank you 🙏🙏

[@oncefrompak]

Im sorry lackluster? This is my fav song from fifth gen and one of my fav overall. Yall are gonna give them the illit treatment so before you do shut your shit up. Theyve made a good impact for a group from a small company. This song is everywhere and theyre all rlly good as idols. Yall just want smtn to complain about

[@kiyokucingasya]

Tapi jujur, mereka ini keren loh!! 🥹

[@bunneyvibes]

me when i lie

[@sarahevans5771]

Well their title tracks did strike me as YG vibe, it wasn't bad tho and I liked 82, maybe they were selling low cause the album just had like 2/3 songs and they're not really that much known. I read some were in survivals but that's was far as I know, they need better marketing strategies

[@chandagupta4297]

But I like there songs so much 😀

[@BolinhosDaChaewon]

Idk why their m/v has so many views while going bad at other numbers

[@mammoneymelon]

actual lies lmao, they literally just debuted and have received overwhelming praise

[@rumirose6766]

No they haven’t

[@vanillemiye]

Yes they did ​@@rumirose6766

[@Kajsun]

@@rumirose6766yeah they have

[@mariarose8210]

​@@Kajsun maybe from what you've seen , but what I've seen in comments, Tt, ect it's a even amount of hate and praise

[@Dewdrop14072]

​@@Kajsunthey had SOO much praise believe me

[@roguex9469]

"The members have no stand out visuals"? "Easy to be forgotten"? The fuck!?

[@illitoutsold]

literally like these K-pop channels probably don’t even like K-pop

[@tsuki4261]

Just sounds like hate atp

[@LxuiicasLabels]

For real it's not about VISUALS FUCK, why do people never care about the MUSIC, THE MUSIC

[@Lisaxamari]

They're so pretty tho...

[@DanFloresII]

That was what got me. Most of the other points were valid but geez attacking their looks and saying that's one of the reasons they're not popular (after just debuting no less) seems uncalled for. Didn't YG give 2NE1 shit for being "ugly"? That didn't seem to affect their popularity. 🤦

[@meissa9660]

They debuted a week ago and you expect them to be as big as bp

[@AriMon05]

BV girls are all pretty, but the maknae.. Kelly's looks are mesmerizing. Have you even seen her? She might be above average among idols. And now that i think about, they are all beautiful, wdym? And the whole concept is just what i wanted. Most of the 5th gen idols are babies. Don't get me wrong, they are cute and all. But pls... I waited so long for a more badass gg. And here they are! Hope they'll get through it. So far i watched every video with them, literally everything. And can't wait to see more!

[@urmultifan]

Right? They caught my attention when my sister asked me about them. I searched for them and listened to their songs and found out they are new gg, but ended up liking them. Other fans nowadays accusing new groups copying others. The vocals and raps though is really great, really catchy and they look cool! Not to mention the blending of voices is clean, emphasizing the high and low pitch of voices and doesn't even sound noisy with their blended voices. And TF is wrong with their visuals? They're gorgeous in their own way duh! Really pisses me off with the comment “THE 7 MEMBERS DON'T HAVE STANDOUT VISUALS MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BE FORGOTTEN” FCK THAT, THE LEAST THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SHOW WITH THEIR TALENT. I'll root for them to succeed!!!

[@a_ashk]

THANK U I THOUGHT IT WAS JS ME she gave me visual vibes shes extremely pretty

[@Pikkaryu]

we're criticizing for poor visuals now? Then get annoyed when idols become addicted to plastic surgery. Leave them alone. This is a fake news craftee by you and haters to pull them down. These girls just debuted and are already garnering lots of fans. Anytime i post about them people are always curious

[@armyshope]

Honestly they all look natural and pretty to me.I hope they stay this way

[@eliseallard7994]

thiiiis

[@ensorcelledsee55]

Can you stop lying?? leave them alone

[@ChotaPeanut]

Yeah don't judge them

[@musicloverchicago437]

The market is saturated.

[@fcoderiiz]

This.

[@AbbyA-z6j]

New groups debuting, older groups coming back, established groups working like tomorrow's never going to come. There will eventually have to be a correction. It's crazy.

[@stanateezstanseventeenstan5408]

Yes but it needs to happen bc they need to debut their trainees.

[@deannaw9128]

Exactly. There's just way too much going on at all times

[@MERETSEYE]

Can you stop lying? Their debut was amazing and REAL FANS actually loved it. Stop getting your sources from bitter baemon fans and leave Bad Villain alone, the only debuted a week ago!

[@Regularkpopfan2024]

Not from baemon fans fyi

[@Chae_ru_young]

Frr

[@tsuki4261]

@@_.Nabiie_the company is doing as best as they can. There’s subway ads in Korea badvillain buses as well. Billboards in Korea, Japan and New York city. They’re in so many articles, they are attending dream concert in Japan in August, attending music shows and collaborating with other idols, been on m2 countless of times and ads on KZbin . The only mark they missed imo was making their first debut album a single and +82 being released months ago and not having a longer version

[@elisabethhenssler8706]

Idk if it’s just me but I really enjoyed the debut - I thought the song was interesting and catchy, I got to hear all the group’s voices and unique tones, and the choreography is addictive…

[@wendyolisa8894]

Same, saying the members aren't known much by the public, they just debuted, not every group that debuts newly has members that are already known by the public Honestly, they slayed their debut, and I really liked the music video, and this is not nothing like babymonster at all

[@lynn-Ryo]

ofc they don’t get the same recognition as a group from the big 4 cause thats almost impossible for new groups. Besides saying they don’t have "outstanding visuals" is so unnecessarily rude, the girls are all pretty and most of the 5th gen groups have the same amount of visuals as them

[@nailaseale1339]

They debut was amazing all the members are very talented and skilled in performance, rap and vocals and they're live vocal performances are great.

[@lornadoone902]

I'm shocked you thought this video was a W😂🤣😂

[@sannashiness]

Do people seriously not know samples exist? SMH🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jenoxhendrix5663]

poor girls hope they get the recognition they deserve because they have talent

[@gabbyxi]

This is inaccurate

[@JudithBeriones]

BadVillain is so good People just have Bad music taste..

[@lorenzod8282]

One of the best debut ever for me ❤❤ stan badvilain because their gonna hit with their comeback, i feel it. ❤❤❤

[@Ann-ws1gq]

what?? are you kidding ?? Hybe Oayola is at work again . They are getting constant praise from their live singing and their VISUALs. Not to mention no one takes albums sales as seriously anymore because of the bulk buying and payoffs. Educate yourself please and thankyou .

[@BTSMom1980]

So damn rude! Such bs. Those people must be watching the wrong group, because what?!

[@Chae_ru_young]

Y'all are on crack,the music video has 40 million views😭 What more do you want,and not to mention they are from such small and unknown company

[@theweirdones7544]

Lackluster??? Where??

[@florony166]

Their debut was so controversial before it even happened, I'm not really surprised 💀

[@purecharms5880]

why what happened

[@kissesforkiof]

@@purecharms5880pretty sure its bc ppl thought they copied baemon?? idk i literally just heard ab them

[@ClientLawrenceLlanto]

I've seen that too, it was kinda sad to say the company copied the XG/BM & BP in my opinion!!!

[@tsuki4261]

@@ClientLawrenceLlantonow how did they copy XG and babymonster of all groups… the only similarities with bp is the orchestra music sample

[@illitoutsold]

it honestly wasn’t. nobody cared except for those fat chronically online baemon yg pedo dozen fans.

[@Hello_art07]

Y’all act like they can pay for stuff like big companies, leave them alone 😂

[@kray_pop]

people were hyping them up so much and comparing them to baemon

[@nr_ancine]

Hype? Or maybe Attacked by Yg Stan's and accused since pre-debut of copying BM. That's the reason why many know BV today bros we were all interested in seeing the group that Yg Stan's claimed were Baby Monster copy cat

[@black_pinksaranghe]

Tbh , Without Emma none of them are getting recognition. Also their fans helped a lot to throw them under a bus by comparing with babymonster. I hope they will get success btw

[@ensorcelledsee55]

No one compared them to baby monster, baby monster fans accused THEM of plagiarism. Shut up

[@michaelkennethaustinowens3717]

Tbh I only checked out the group when I saw yunseo and HU'E for mtg in the lineup.

[@HibaBaydoun]

@@ensorcelledsee55no they were getting compared, their fans went around saying “this is what babymon wished to be” or “this is what YG visioned w baemon”, both fandoms attacked each other

[@tsuki4261]

@@HibaBaydounthat’s not even true, baemon stans started it first and then it got outside of the two fandoms then other fandoms started to help drag babymonster

[@izami9963]

thank you for the trigger 😌 you gave them free promotion

[@nebeyoula]

Idk why this has to be a thing. Like everything that said in the video is sooooooo normal. The sale on the debut has always been low, nothing new in the scenarios like this. Especially when the groups r from smaller companies. And to talk about big companies, they still have to climb the ladder of success but not that much like they did back then. If ppl r aware of the privilege of debuting under big companies, they will not say anything!

[@shahanarahman177]

When small company group gains more popularity then they say how the small company group this awesome and talent atleast they have. talents unlike the big companies where does not have talent but still got millions of view because of their visual. Because they have small company so the people accused them so please give them chance to grow and please support them 🙏🙏

[@lance5710]

They’re gonna be big, it’s only been a week. I love their music

[@urromancey]

You’re literally just a hater!! these girls are doing amazing for a group under a small company.. stan bad villain y’all :3

[@pearson7392]

Songs were ok but that doesnt convince me to buy album. Like i need something more, personality, memories etc

[@ishie19.78]

They are soooo good….. 🤩 i see you have no taste

[@armyshope]

Exactly

[@OkayStrawberry]

I enjoy their music a lot actually…I don’t know why people are tweaking like this..they JUST debuted fr-✋💀

[@nathalie0327ify]

The one that made this short is definitely a hater. 😂 And it shows in the shade comments being said about BV. They have just debuted and besides all the girls are stunning. I have just watch their MV for the first time and can see the potential. This is just the beginning. 😊❤

[@Skibidittoilet754]

I personally love it and I’m obsessed with them

[@YojeongChangod]

Now it's common in kpop small company's talented groups always get ignorance from netizens because all attention is always on big 4 company's groups

[@WanderingINorchard]

Yeah, when people comments about 5g never say thewind or adya😅

[@YojeongChangod]

@@WanderingINorchard yes tbh I never heard about this groups we should support small groups as well

[@Nikuboro-q4v]

Wtff I like their songs so muchhh

[@clarens4803]

They just debuted last week. I'm sure people were saying that about idle or to a lesser degree kiss of life . Not everyone is going to hit it big like I ' llit. Just give them time .

[@regularhuh8880]

I don’t understand…their music is literally good and they are all so pretty

[@armyshope]

Yes they are pretty no need for this person to be that harsh

[@that_strawberry_girl]

I think BadVillain debut was very good But not very outstanding Nothing significant or new to pin on them But hey! They're just starting! Nobody knew BTS or IU when they made their debut. I have a feeling BadVillain will do just fine in very few years to come! They have a good and powerful comcept It will definitely stick! Just needs some time!

[@error.found.404]

they are a new group under a smaller company, did u rllly expect bp numbers? stop comparing. they are doing great as a new group, they already hv a fan, me. Go BadVillian!!!

[@illitoutsold]

they literally debuted last week

[@Schroberry]

Visuals? I feel like they have the same visuals as BabyMon...

[@daerincakes]

How? They're all unique ppl who all look extremely different

[@Schroberry]

@@daerincakes Everyone is unique and extremely different, no one said they have the same face wtf? I said they have the same visuals. The difference is not stark.

[@kemuelpernia4312]

Badvillain visuals are exotic but in a good way, Baemon visuals is perfect for korean standards and pleasing in the eyes of the youth.

[@tsuki4261]

@@kemuelpernia4312badvillain has good visuals. Like chloe and ina visuals is very beautiful for the western world. But then they have Kelly, vin and especially Yunseo who suit the kbs. Mind you, Yunseo went viral for her visuals after debut and even during mtg

[@daerincakes]

@@Schroberry 'I feel like they have the same visuals as babymon' - YOU

[@Giller-yh3em2fg7f]

They are definitely gonna be big

[@textingstories2.074]

The way how I loved Badvillian…😭 knetz are weird. They probably wanted something like Magnetic and Super Shy lmao

[@Imded02]

Their debut was amazing???? I looked up their ages and there weren’t any 13 or 14 year olds (one member is 16 or 17, still kinda young), the song was a banger I listen to Bad Villian all the time, they are beautiful, and their concept is great because I don’t usually go for the cutesy stuff. It was very badass, they are gonna go far

[@IIIridecent_Music]

They are really good like all kpop groups in the kpop industry that's why they don't have a lot of sales there's a looooot of good groups out there and i'm actually have bad feeling about this situation a hope we don't see a new group this 2 years 😭😭😭 Don't get me wrong!!

[@aerineu]

no visuals? Chloe’s voice has me coming back to watch their videos, Emma’s dancing is out of this world?? The whole group stands out…

[@Dxodxo738]

They're more talented than le sserafim illit new jeans 😂 getting 40 million views with debut mv is not that easy

[@kriztv574]

it is, esp if they boosted it. You can only definitely say a group is doing great if they are doing great in both. There are a lot of small companies now that been doing great despite being small and despite debuting a new group---- kiss of life, UNIS, tripleS, Young Posse, and more perhaps? There's a problem with the marketing strategy, they even failed to make use of VIVIZ's viral moment, instead they focused too much with debuting this group. But, no problem with their songs tho, i think its good, sometimes, if you really have that kpop idol aura, no matter how bad the song, or marketing strategy is, people would really notice you at first glance.

[@Danielle_bunny]

They’re but no need to drag others especially Newjeans with lesssra and illit