The Lost NES Console Add-On! - Gaming History Secrets

[@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499]

*Flathead screwdriver, not a Phillips. Still, an NES modem would be fun to tinker with for homebrew projects...

[@6door6four96]

Lolol

[@aussieatheist960]

Glad it wasn't just me! 🤣

[@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145]

Early versions of the NES had the expansion port just covered by the removable cover & no screwdriver was required to access it

[@therealmakmillion]

Mine is like this, the cover just pops off.

[@destindude1978]

I'd love to see pictures of that I've never seen it before

[@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145]

@@destindude1978 honestly they look the same as an NES with the plastic over tab removed. This is a pic of the expansion port with the tab removed. But the models that didn't have that tab in place looked essentially the same to my understanding when Nintendo decided they would not be using the expansion port for the US model they redesigned the bottom half of the plastic shell to have the protective tab on it because they didn't redesign the circuit board and remove the actual expansion port. www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/27664/4/11.jpg

[@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145]

@@destindude1978 so it looks essentially the same as in the one picture I just linked except that it wouldn't have the residual plastic from where the tab was removed

[@sophbliss]

I had to remove the plastic on mine when I installed the FDS sound channel. Having this mod has paid off very well :)

[@Fifth313ment]

My cousin had the Sega channel add-on for his Genesis and it would take so long for games to download. I also remember playing Sega Saturn Netlink modem and duke nukem online. And this was back in like 1997 I believe? Amazing video Lady Decade!

[@johnwilson5012]

Thanks Lady Decade, love to you and the fam!

[@IsaacKuo]

300 bits per second was a standard speed used by the C64 game "Modem Wars". I think the C64 MMORPG Habitat also used 300 bits per second. With Modem Wars, you dialed your opponent's landline phone line directly. With Habitat, you dialed into a centralized server that had multiple phone lines (sort of like a dialup ISP).

[@blunderingfool]

Wasn't it also dubbed "Reading speed"?

[@hackerx7329]

Yeah, she had more info wrong about the modem than correct.

[@witness1013]

@@blunderingfool no

[@nintendo6663]

Oooo

[@ascabusi]

Absolutely love the Metroid music in the background:)

[@timreuscher20]

Doesn't surprise me that Bushnell was behind this. There was even a modem cartridge for the 2600. It was called the Game line from 1983

[@RockNRollDad88]

You don't use Phillips head screwdriver tho, that would be a weird choice for breaking that cover of

[@risk603]

She goofed, if you look closely it's a flat head screw driver

[@catsaregovernmentspies]

Lol, I was going to comment that she was using a flathead, not a Phillips.

[@DaveVoyles]

That little box under the console always reminded me of the RF adapter

[@neoasura]

I actually thought it was meant to store the RF adapter when I was a kid.

[@DaveVoyles]

@@neoasura Same here!

[@GabePuratekuta]

@@neoasura You aren't a real gamer if you didn't put the RF adapter in there at least once!

[@AndrewHawnt]

Yet another extremely well made video. Always such a pleasure to watch! Crazy to think online gaming could have happened so much sooner.

[@howdoyoulikemenow3897]

ok simp

[@dwaynemenzies8824]

I really love your videos Lady Decade.

[@ianbattles7290]

Even as a kid I figured they wouldn't have installed all these additional ports unless there were peripherals I'd never heard of.

[@BlackHoleForge]

Back then people were .. watching the radio. 😂 lady decade you have me rolling on the floor in tears. Good episode.

[@loganwilliams5462]

I once listened to the TV on the radio. does that count?

[@SupremeNerd]

@@loganwilliams5462 technically, it does 😁

[@AcornElectron]

1:02 bloody love that retailer “How to Nintendo” video. Keep up the good work lass and, as always, stay safe!

[@Soundboy817]

Damn the nostalgia 😔

[@segamanxero]

Was wondering what they were thinking about doing with that ext port on the bottom. Neat!

[@common_c3nts]

The port clones the bus and the controller ports. Someone used to make a custom adaptor so you can plug it into the nes bottom port and give you the 15 pin famicom port to connect famicom accessories.

[@GabePuratekuta]

The line is "Huh, neat".

[@peterlane1391]

All this talk about jamming things into slots... seriously I love your content. I learn a lot, and you're very entertaining.

[@andrewbrooks2001]

To be fair, Nintendo was planning on releasing the Famicom in the US & abroad as the Nintendo Advanced Video System. A home computer system with wireless control pads, light gun, and keyboard. It was a home computer system like the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. But when shown at a electric convention, it garnered little enthusiasm. Kind of wish they also released the AVS with the NES and brought cross play with it LOL

[@ChicagoMel23]

Ugh why weren’t people excited?

[@andrewbrooks2001]

@@ChicagoMel23 The price was pretty high when you add up all the extensions. But other than the cost, I am really not sure what would turn people off. Maybe because Nintendo wasn't really well known in the US, at the time, outside of the arcade cabinets.

[@SupremeNerd]

Yeah at this time Wireless was to much ahead of the times. I.e. wireless controllers for the Atari 2600, 5200 and 8 bit computers didn't sell too well

[@hardkoregamer1981]

The earliest experiments relating to online connectivity on game consoles were done as far back as the early 1980s. For some consoles, Dial-Up internet connectivity was made available through the use of special cartridges, along with an adapter. The GameLine for the Atari 2600 and the PlayCable for the Intellivision are two notable examples of this. Services like these did not have multiplayer online gaming capability, but did allow users to download games from a central server and play them, usually requiring a fee for continued access. However, neither the GameLine or PlayCable attained mainstream popularity and both services were shut down during the 1983 video game crash. Source: Wikipedia online console gaming page

[@gedeuchnixan3830]

That was a flathead screwdriver, not a philips.

[@mikel3510]

You subtlely slipped in the phrase wizard sleeve lmao. Subbed.

[@pierrealthinsson7127]

You should make a video about the later/current attempts to make expansion port devces for the nes, the ENIO, EPSM, there has been something that could tweet and probably more :)

[@snoozy04]

Now this is a great educational video. Thanks

[@Dark_Jaguar]

Interestingly, the Atari 2600 even had an online service and that one used it for downloadable games. I never had that, and certainly not this Japan exclusive thing, but I did have an XBand Modem for my SNES. Well, I still have it. It's got the most 90's interface ever. Street chalk art and Rob Liefeld styled comic art abound on the thing, as well as "pumping" jams and record-scratch sound effects. There was a Genesis version as well, but sadly no cross-play. There was a good reason though. The online functions weren't actually supported by the games themselves. They basically used real-time patches to turn those games into online multiplayer, and in those cases where those games are on both systems they have enough significant differences in gameplay that they just can't talk to each other anyway.

[@StayCoolKeto]

*the way you ripped that expansion port out with no care and caused that damage! arggg triggering!!! , awesome video nonetheles lol* 💪👍

[@nicholasharvey1232]

I learn so many new things about all my old games and consoles from watching your videos. And you're so good-looking :-)

[@alexwalker7108]

Great video, like always. I thought it was neat, that in the background you have my 2 favorite N64 games on display, Mystical Ninja and Turok 2.

[@SuperSonic1984]

I always wondered what that little compartment was for underneath the console lol.

[@SupremeNerd]

Me too. Especially since I knew you had to have a computer to get Internet although at the time the World Ride Web was not a thing

[@GregoryMonk]

Thank you, Great work!, excellent piece of historical information.

[@bedwablackburn]

Most impressive on the music changes, Chojin Sentai Jetman, to Castlevania, to Kick Master to Double Dragon.

[@gradiuzg8437]

Lady Decade you are very Informative about old consoles so you deserve my sub and thumbs up 😁 Also nice Simpsons ref "Will someone think of the children" lol

[@creamyj3888]

Bloody love this channel

[@WrathfulRebike]

Where my legend began. The NES

[@Mainyehc]

Loving that BVTSM lvl. 2 soundtrack in the outro, by the way! ;)

[@coktoe4487]

Thanks for the video. Good stuff.

[@Mr.Peanut1986]

At the 12 second mark, I have wanted that giant SNES prop since the first time I saw it. So rad....

[@greenkoopa]

🤔 00:12

[@greenkoopa]

Fair enough

[@RobTheSquire]

I think that Nintendo should have let you download the old 8 bit and 16 bit games and play them offline rather than stream them. They would make a fair few quid this way.

[@stevefox3763]

Nintendo's past is a little darker than Illegal playing cards or online betting, they used to run a Hotel for extra marital activity's.....

[@ChasingDragons420]

Wish they still had those!

[@Tweaker420666]

Perhaps the inspiration for Hotel Mario?

[@ChicagoMel23]

It’s better not to promote sin

[@stevefox3763]

@@ChasingDragons420 cheating is something scum do.

[@michaeln8925]

@@ChicagoMel23 No one is promoting the moon God sin Sin is not a offense it was the name of a Samarian moon God

[@mervynstent1578]

That’s interesting Nolan Bushnell was originally on that Project as C= paid him $$$$$$ to promote their CDTV at the same time too!

[@netsendjoe]

Discovered this port while having to clean out the inside of my NES in the mid 90's when games would no longer play. I had to clean and adjust the pinset prolly because of the Game Genie.

[@omegarugal9283]

i always thought the expansion port was the one in front of the famicom, turns out that port is actually the p1 and p2 ports of the NES, with the actual expansion port being a mirror of several data and address cpu lines, with the OG controller ports of the famicom being buried in the nes motherboard

[@DBJohnson2k]

In the USA, they came out with a moderm in the last 80s in 2 state that was use for people to play real lottery on the game system. It was very short live, last about 6 month due to legal reason

[@PalominoBlueGames]

Awesome video. Hope everything is going well with you.

[@aldogutierrez6637]

Wow 🤩 another great video! Maybe you can do a few on the psvita ? Would love to see some obscure history on nextgen consoles.

[@LadyDecade]

I've done a video on the Vita and PSP recently, as well as the PlayStation Phone! X

[@aldogutierrez6637]

@@LadyDecade just found them. Thank you !

[@MasaCheez]

2:24 Cough cough, flathead, cough 😜

[@defrostus]

My NES has a secret wizard sleeve cover with tabs. No violation required!

[@geoffreyshepler4954]

I always enjoyed slamming my cartridge into Nintendo secret slot as a kid. Granted, sometimes I had to blow on it to get thing working, but I never minded doing that

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Always good to get a lady decade vid

[@meechp123]

I’m glad you ended how you did with the statement on Nintendo & its practices.

[@JasonWaden8r]

I love watching your videos

[@WizardClipAudio]

If, I recollect correctly, I think Microsoft, did have a product called an X-box, sometime, somewhere, back in the 1980's, I'm pretty sure.

[@hackerx7329]

Neither the modem for the NES/Famicom nor any others for game systems connected to the internet in the 1980s for a simple reason. ISPs didn't exist until the end of 1989 and commercial services weren't allowed to operate on/through the internet until 1991. They didn't use network cables either because the network cables everybody uses now with RJ45 connectors didn't exist until 1990. Except for very early ones that used acoustic couplers all dial up modems on all platforms connected using standard telephone RJ11 jacks. Before everybody was doing everything mostly over the internet you used dial up modems to connect directly to somebody elses modem, you connected to a system that could only serve one or a few users at a time with a different phone number for each line (Think local BBSes), or you dialed into a service that paid to have a ringdown number and racks and racks of modems to connect with each user that dialed in (think stuff like AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, or dedicated gaming and information services like the one mentioned for gambling). And while 300 baud was quite slow games were played over connections that slow. The graphics of the game had nothing to do with the speed of the modem. Except for modern game streaming services where the content is rendered remotely the graphics of the game aren't sent over the connection, only data such as character position and movement. Latency is a far bigger issue for most games during gameplay than the actual connection speed and that still holds true today.

[@backbone666]

Feel like the VO quality is had a jump up since the last video I watched. Great video as always!

[@emanuelecasetta4923]

I think Nintendo allowed the gambling service in Japan in the famicom since unlike the US/euro nes It was made to be a family "computer" (i mean, yeah, consoles are still computers but you get what i mean), so that even adults could get entertained with. However in the west the nes was initially made to look like a "hi-tech" (if we can call It that way) home entertainment system due to the US 1983 videogame market crash. But with the success and rapid diffusion of the NES, people started to see It like a Toy for children more than a vcr thing, especially in the US due to the fact that the system was more popular than elsewhere here in the west (in Europe the market was dominated by home computers til the early 90s when consoles like the sega master system dominated across Europe). Because of this, the gambling modem would've (obviously) been inappropriate since the NES was a "Toy", cuz It would be like adding a "smoking kit" to Barbie dolls.

[@kevintappminville195]

That's not what a Phillips head screwdriver looks like...

[@volvoguy804]

I wasn't a sub but I kept seeing your vids in my recommended. Watched a few and really like the content. I've now subbed. But I think it was mainly bc of your accent and no-nonsense delivery. 😃

[@greenkoopa]

No-nonsense? You're definitely new here welcome 😂😂

[@jlang8213]

2:24 that's not a phillips head screw driver..... It's a slotted, or flat head.

[@Joshsafetouch]

all good slots are always being used for a good purpose

[@WrathfulRebike]

Fun facts over 9000

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

I don't have a switch. When I get one later this year in anticipation for the new Zelda, I'm not paying for the online service. The only game I play online is Wizard101 and only play it with my fiancee on a nice empty server where we can avoid other people easier. And I plainly refuse to continually pay for classic games I've have paid for multiple times already. My classic gaming lives comfortably on my laptop.

[@neeneko]

Wait.. was that a picture of EvE when talking about loot boxes? Do they have them now?

[@spiritualdrip1869]

Interesting and thank you for bringing this up about the NES console add on lady decade because I’m 22 years old and I’m learning about this from you. ❤😆👍

[@howdoyoulikemenow3897]

2:32 well done depreciating your consol.

[@Sly88Frye]

Just be sure that whatever you downloaded on Wii you never deleted because as long as you still have that saved to your console's harddrive you'll still be able to play it. I don't mind the switch online service because I'm paying a small price for an entire year of service and to get all these games included instead of having to actually spend money for each individual game and the fact that they continue to add more games to their service is pretty nice. I have been doing the $20 per year basic pack over the yearsband enjoying a lot of NES and SNES games and of course playing new switch games on the internet like Super smash Bros ultimate and Mario striker's battle League. I caved in and upgraded to the $50 per year service so I can get some Sega Genesis and N64 games but I'm actually pretty disappointed. I'm enjoying Mario Kart 64 and earthworm Jim and other things, but it's pretty frustrating that they decide to charge more than double the price just to add two additional things and some kind of free DLC for animal crossing and like seriously I've looked at the library of games and there's not very many Genesis games and not very many N64 games to choose from. They really shouldn't have brought the price up so high.

[@greenkoopa]

This is weird but to me $20 seemed like underpayment, like they could use that as an excuse for crappy service. If you played Mario Maker 2 online you can tell a clear difference in quality. I do think they could/should add a new game to play every month or something like the Xbox used to

[@apollolux]

Just because Nintendo was among the first to do online doesn't mean they've learned how to do it well over the years.

[@Zombies8MDingo]

Love the Mega Man 2 music in this, pretty sure I still have PTSD from the game. 😂

[@Granite165]

Been enjoying your videos anyways, then you said fuddy-duddies and that just brings things to a whole other level. 10/10

[@wargodsix]

Nintendo was smart tho thinking of the future possibilities they had sega so be cheaper to make a add on then a whole new system while gives them time to develop the snes

[@abx42]

I find it funny I found this video today I was just talking to people online about how Nintendo has been networking online games forever and a day at least as far as I know the first one to do it but you go on to the switch website and it tells you to open up all your ports (if you don't know that's a bad thing) and how they've been giving poor advice since I think 2013 but I could be wrong. I guess it boils down to they should know better.

[@jareddavidmanifold313]

Lady decade u should have been the next queen of England.

[@jakerodriguez3484]

Love this lady's accent

[@LiterallyCensoredDaily]

Her voice is majestic as f*ck.

[@thompsoon3]

u fookin wot m8 innit

[@WrathfulRebike]

Excellent background music choice. 8 or 16 bit?

[@edgardeitz2784]

12:19 - Look at the Koopa Troopa card; I feel they should be wearing underpants under their shells, along with the t-shirt. This idea is kinda shown in the graphics for "Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island".

[@pjousma]

stocks, weather and cheats, great functionality.

[@neoasura]

I always thought it was meant to store the RF adapter when I was a kid.

[@WrathfulRebike]

Famicom, I want one...or do I? We only have a finite time on this planet. Still...very cool

[@raba2d723]

i like how you and top hat's manner is way over the top. its a mix of circus carneys and contemptuous blueblooded etonian

[@Tigerhawk1981]

back in 1988 i was watching Saturday Morning Cartoons on TV

[@destindude1978]

I bet this can be made for the NES now days but someone has to want to do it

[@WrathfulRebike]

Ahh, Batman NES soundtrack. Noice

[@jimmywaltermi6ciami219]

My sega plays nes games. But it was built recently.

[@anime-mun]

I would have used a pair of nippers/ flush cutters to remove that port cover myself.

[@MrKeech666]

Off topic, but I really like the top you are wearing! That's a cool looking, uhm, sweater? 🤟😎

[@erockbrox8484]

Too bad nobody still has yet to made an add-on for it. How about an add-on which increases the NES's capabilities? Like more sprites on screen, more cpu power, an HDMI or S-video output. There are tons of possibilities.

[@CalTheHogNosedBat]

Do you think you'll cover the original SNES version of the PS1 game Punky Skunk, Cooly Skunk, that was thought to be lost but was found i think in early 2020 or maybe 2021?

[@DarkusObscurius]

I don't understand why no one hacked this extension port for anything interesting.

[@poonhandler520]

You know what that spot under the Nintendo is for? You can hide your weed in it 😂😂😂

[@adonian]

Why am I UNSUBSCRIBED ?!?! Awesome video as usual. Very informative.

[@watsomd]

Phillips head screwdriver, LOL that not a phillips😆

[@JeromeChan]

Maybe the Famicom Network System was an attempt to duplicate the French Minitel system?

[@sgtkwol]

Wouldn't 300 bps be enough to transfer sprite positions?

[@Jaylobeans]

You Should Do A Kingdom Hearts Video Retrospective. Also Great video Lady Decade!

[@flamespear86]

Only the later NES models had those tabs. The original ones had a proper removable cover.

[@jacobbaranowski]

Maybe the 4 score indicator th that the controllers are working Oh it's for the Disk Sistem, that we never got, just The Famicon did.

[@omegarugal9283]

the famicom disk systems connects to the cartdrige slot

[@johnny-becker]

With many people creating home brews and mods for the Nintendo, you would think modern day enthusiasts would create, at least a bluetooth adapter where two systems can work within 30 meters (10 feet) of each other. I would say a WI-FI adapter but who is going to fork up the money to create a server for a nearly 40 year old console?

[@mikicerise6250]

Retroarch has multiplayer for NES.

[@johnny-becker]

@@mikicerise6250 Well I'll be damned! What will be thought of next?

[@itsdeonlol]

We are still having these gambling problems today...

[@christopherlesage5995]

You used a flat head screw driver, not a Phillips. Lol!

[@shambleslongplay3566]

that just wasn't a Phillips head screwdriver "wasn't even posidrive"

[@BrainSlugs83]

uhhh that's a flat head screwdriver, not a Phillips head. I'm probably the 800th person to post this, but... THE MOAR YOU KNOW!!!1! 🌈

[@the70bbe]

Expansion for the lotteri ? On the tv.