Cheap Sailboat to Live On? 38 Foot Sailboat for $30,000 - Ep 299 - Lady K Sailing

[@malk6277]

I love the look of the Alberg 30, and am attracted to full keel. You've given me something to think about!

[@tomh1285]

Tim, I learned to sail on my dad’s old Pearson Vanguard, the very close cousin to the Alberg. We could sail that beast through anything! At Annapolis on Friday, we were walking through the show when my wife yells out “It’s Tim!”. This was funny as I had been the sailing KZbin fanatic in our home. But, my wife so appreciates your informative vids. Glad we had a moment chat with you. Thanks.

[@anonpers0n]

i bought a laguna 22 for a grand and spent 3 days and nights cruising around a lake as a test run thinking about the great lakes next summer. I'm legally blind, its not ideal but if i can single hand there is no reason anyone else cant... i'd like to send it across the great lakes and head for the east coast and down to FL...

[@chrisrulla6386]

The Catalina 38 replaced the Cal 40 as the boat used for the Congressional Cup match races during the 80's in Long Beach, CA.

[@BigDreamsBoating]

As a first boat that Catalina 38 would be a great choice. Currently on my 4th boat learning exactly what I need and want. If you buy a boat from a great owner you will learn about caring for the boat because he already bought the stuff. You just need to have a replacement scheduled if on a tight budget.

[@matthewgreenhouse7879]

I’ve had my Alberg 30 for 25 years. No plans to sell. It’s a great boat.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I just felt those pangs of envy that the ten commandments dictate as being unholy.

[@johnbrooks1188]

I''ve had my 1967 Alberg 30 for 33 years. The A30 Association just celebrated their 60th birthday a few weeks ago, and one of the attendees, Jason Jernigan, was there with his LOLA - which just completed a circumnavigation last year. The A30 is a great boat, and very good looking as she is good sailing!

[@gymcoachdon]

That O'Day 39 used to be named "Rocket", and was used as a sail training boat in Grand Traverse Bay on lake Michigan. The wife and I took our 103 and 104 class aboard her. She was pretty solid 5 years ago, and sailed well as I recall, although I was inexperienced. I remember it having a placard below that said it was a Jenneau boat, and I researched it. It seems they licensed O'Day to build or sell it under their name. Possibly the same as a Gin Fizz? Quality boat.

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer3052]

Congrats on 100k cant wait to see your silver play button!

[@svechappe6075]

The O'Day 39 was the same boat as the Jeanneau Sun Fizz 40. Both were designed by Phillipe Briand, a naval architect often used by Jeanneau, Beneteau and others. The O'Day 39 was licensed to O'Day by Jeanneau to be built in the U.S. because both we owned at the time by the same parent company, Punta Gorda.

[@crwmdp9]

I owned a 1979 Catalina 38. Awesome sailing boat. Had it for 6 years in SoCal and did mostly coastal cruising.

[@ToddAaronSailing]

I have another Alberg boat, the Pearson Triton. About a foot and a half shorter than the Alberg 30 and almost identical. One of these has been around the globe twice. And the draft is under 4 feet so awesome for the Bahamas!! Paid $12k and it came with an awesome trailer.

[@AWBepi]

It's not just the winter, it's economics. Luxury items are the first thing to be sold off during tough economic times. This is a fantastic time to shop for sailboats.

[@jefflloyd394]

Always good, thanks Tim. Valkyrie-3 Pearson 35

[@irishharmon]

Hi Tim I bagged a 1983 Colvic Victor 41 for 29,000 euro in Ireland. # cabin 2 head with the master cabin in the stern with it's own head/shower.She has a newer Yanmar 50 and is a dream to sail and live aboard. Waited about 7 years to find the perfect boat and this was from a loving owner who had just gotten to old to keep sailing. There are great deals to be had if you shio smart and have patience.

[@mariuszkijowski2180]

Go simple, go cheep, go now :) Great video Tim, ty!

[@lancewoolen9343]

I just bought a C&C 36 in Florida. Can't wait to relocate and get on the water!

[@LadyKSailing]

Congratulations, you're going to love it!

[@roblewis1907]

Thanks for all your review and comments …. This is very fun to hear your learned perspective to issues I’ve wondered about. Keep up the good work. And yes I’ve not heard of an Albert 30 but good to know. That’s the kind of boat one needs to make it home a the end of the day.

[@LadyKSailing]

Glad it was helpful! It’s Alberg but it keeps autocorrecting to Albert 😆

[@bobdailey9533]

Good article Tim! Very informative!

[@TimothyRobnett]

From one Tim to another Tim - it was good seeing you at the show! Keep up the great work.

[@timothyruggles3031]

Just another tim

[@christophersnow891]

The O’Day 39 was also built as the Jeanneau Sun Fizz 40, which was a fairly common Caribbean charter boat. Both great boats for young families that want three cabins.

[@AEFisch]

Catalina bought the hull molds from Yankee. I owned a Yankee 38 for decades and Catalina had a better rig and cabin top & interior. Sails through anything fast and bullet proof build while sailing ultra close to the wind (except light air). Repower already, any $ in are good forever. Well maintained, only check for leaks not repaired in ports or handrails. The chain plates are backed by huge steel mounted to the main bulkhead almost to the base of the mast. My bow was holed in a hurricane & so thick just repaired with no structural damage. Tim, suggest a "Superchat" button?

[@johnbryan2365]

I went to the Anapolis show on Sunday; I agree that it was awesome.

[@espenbjerke665]

Bought a Tradewind 39 (198210y old mast ,600h engine. well equipped. had everything done new in 2012 except teak deck. 32k usd

[@Monkeywrenchmotorcycles]

Pretty sure I mentioned it before but I’m in Texas and was VERY close to buying an Alberg 30 in the keys, taking a one way flight with my brother, and sailing back. I didn’t because he had something come up. Also I’d say the sailboat market is getting a little soft and I’m seeing decent boats for decent prices listed much longer.

[@obstinatejack]

Go small, go simple, go now!

[@brandook3648]

Ticked from 99k to 102k very quickly. Well deserved. No sailboat at the moment - but your videos are helping me figure out what it is I want. I"m hoping to grab something trailerable next year with my tax return. I can't decide if I want to start with something like a laser / sunfish or go ahead and get a 22 footer. It'll probably be highly dependent on what is available once I have the cash.

[@allanrheaume5549]

The CS 36T is another solid contender.

[@jimminent2]

For the longest time, I owned and sailed a little Kittiwake 23, and that's also made by Carl Alberg. If I could have a bigger version of it, like the 30, it would definitely be the boat I circumnavigate in. Thanks for the advice!

[@ruthmoreton6975]

I am making mental notes of all your advice. I want to get a boat to live on because I'm too old to get a mortgage and being a single parent was not conducive to saving money. But I might be able to get enough together to buy a low cost sail boat. I don't mind if she's a bit tatty inside as long as she's got a good hull, rigging, engine and sails. I want one wide in the beam because I like my space. But just right for one person to handle and for two to live on.

[@davidnatho4341]

Lots of history as the hull was originally designed as a one tonner for Ted Turner. Yankee then built a few hulls then Frank Butler bought the mold for the hull. I raced on one on Grand Lake Oklahoma. Nice up wind speed racing against a Swan and Baltic.

[@nmauch]

Sorry I missed you at the show! Broker there told me there’s a growing market for repossessed boats-owners who couldn’t handle the higher interest rate payments and need to get out. Interesting tidbit.

[@edfrawley4356]

Its probably fortunate that the Catalina is in Sturgeon bay its a simple enough task to sail her back into Lake Huron and even Lake St Clair or Lake Erie. Open water all the way with no locks and a few days sailing within sight of shore to learn the boat. Sounds perfect

[@UncleJoeLITE]

That lovely older Catalina is likely already sold. Thanks T8m. ⚓

[@Americanmuscle1st]

Keep up the great vids tim!

[@aaronp1434]

Even spending her lifetime in freshwater, at 30k usd, anyone who purchases that Catalina is already looking at significant spending for not a lot of equity return in that boat when they replace standing rigging including potential rolling furling replacement and then sails. On top of any “new owner bits and add ons” the argument could easily be made that you’d be farther ahead taking your $60k and getting something closer to cast off ready. The new owner of the Catalina could easily drop 25k in upgrades to existing systems while maintaining a boat whose value is pretty locked in at 30-35k

[@ahoneyman]

It's likely an older couple who owns it and is somewhat local. If you come in with some puppy dog eyes and pull at the heartstrings a bit that price will come down. You may even be able to work a deal on marina fees for the year. If you listen to few stories he might even tell you who did the maintenance. Anything in the $50-60,000 range is going to need sails and rigging in the next 5 years anyway. Do some wheeling and dealing and get the sails and rigging done from the rip. The current owner might even know a shop that does good work at a fair price.

[@erichyney6287]

First. Thanks TIM.🙃

[@LadyKSailing]

YAY!

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

I’m from C🥶nada Retired . 2000 Beneteau 38.1 sweet boat for one old retired mechanic kitesurfer . Little more than 30 ….negotiated to under 50. Live aboard in the carribean 😅 One extreme to the other for temperature. The boat sails well . How would I know I’ve only sailed this one . Fixed a few things More to do but that’s normal . I drink , I mean speak with many captains who are fixing or going to fix ….. It’s the Biggest kiteboard I’ve ever owned and it’s real good in waves 😂! Hold my beer eh

[@beorbeorian150]

Thanks

[@Patrik.Pereira]

too bad noone wants you to live on a boat in the states unless you have 18 insurances.... most unwelcoming place for sailors ive ever sailed in... ive sailed the whole mediterranean, the whole portugal coast norther spain, NEVER once was i asked for liveaboard insurance..... didnt even know it existed... ya no thanx states... left for guatemala last year, never looking back

[@dennisdickinson8337]

West Coast is the worst

[@WilliamStarkeyIII-hd2cj]

I'm planning on having my home port as Key West . .you mean by law you have to have " live aboard " insurance if you are registered in the United States ?

[@Patrik.Pereira]

@@WilliamStarkeyIII-hd2cj we live in massacchussets and had the boat in maryland on the chesapeake bay,,,, 99 out of 100 marinas we asked either didnt allow liveaboards at all or wanted special liveaboard insurance.... only place we found was innerharbour in baltimore, and luckily one tiiiiny marina in mayo maryland, that charged us 300 a month all included..... but it was extremely hard

[@Patrik.Pereira]

@@WilliamStarkeyIII-hd2cj not by law no..by decision of the harbour... i guess they hear liveaboard and they think poor bastard with a shitty boat that might sink anyday.....

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

In Grenada ❤ same freedom of that 💩

[@ahoneyman]

The Catalina 38 has a 7 foot draft. That's a big problem for Florida. They did make a shoal draft version but thr ad doesn't mention it.

[@MrAnthism]

You have very nice boats at US, here things are a little bit in the risky side when you go buying a used boat...

[@RisingFutureSailing]

That alberg has been for sale for a while. I've been tracking it for months. It's definitely one on my list, but i feel the price could come down just a tad to deal with it not being a furling head sail.

[@richardduval9237]

Merci. Yves Gélinas sail around the world on Alberg named Jean du Sud.

[@ahoneyman]

The Catalina 38 is basically a 70's IOR boat with a couch. It's cramped, has 7 foot keel (bye bye ICW) and kinda finiky off wind. If you just wanna grudge race at the marina rock on. To live on?.No way.

[@harryadams5651]

I love my C&C Landfall 38.Ibought her new in 83. Cutter plus solent espar frig Raymarine EV 200autopilt cockpit enclosure. Sails great. Ive cruised her from Maine to St. Pierre Newfoundland. Recommend you ck us out

[@bernieouellet1653]

There is an alberg 30 for sale for 4500 $ in thunder bay yack club. One owner I have heard.

[@Matt-e4x]

Met you on the water taxi

[@Tugyankreel]

I have yet to see a video of sailboats someone 6'4 can walk in...tall guy sail boats...would love that video

[@0-HIGH-0]

IVE TALKED TO THE BROKER , boat has been on the hard for 4 years , winter cover zippers need stitched back on . owner just spent almost 5k on buffing the grime off the hull and running fresh fuel in the tank. sails are old , be careful buying this vessel and have a survey done. its had at least 4 owners .

[@paulhenry8174]

Would you suggest buying a boat you’ve got to wait 6 months to sail? Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin. None seem like very good places to start sailing in October.

[@TropicTrdr]

There will be some cheap boats in Florida soon...

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

And probably a few that have washed up in Georgia and Alabama, too! I shouldn't joke. My heart goes out to those guys.

[@stoneskipper7625]

C&C.. Balsa core hull.

[@brianufford2934]

what sale sites do you recommend using? thanks

[@robertcarlclayton7724]

So often these older boats are maintaince nightmares. It requires a person to be able to troubleshoot & repair all the systems & takes the joy out of sailing

[@stoneskipper7625]

O'day 38... Balsa core hull.

[@RichardSMaloney]

anyone who have many solar panels on their boat how do you keep the salt spray from damaging the units wiring and such? any feedback will be apreciated

[@JohnBraman413]

where can you liveaboard? i'm in the northeast and find nowhere that allows liveaboards here.

[@flyingconsultant]

Was that Dirty Love by Frank Zappa at the beginning?

[@jamesdavis-ov8cz]

Finally boats less than a thousand dollar per foot

[@Ja50nkAt]

Those nearly 40 foot boats for 30k are inexpensive because it would cost a boat load to get them to either ocean wouldn't it. Can't find those prices on the coasts.

[@TheCominghome]

Dude you say 400 hours on an engine is barely run in and yet at 6000 hours you need to replace it? you do know if you run it for 40 each week seven days a week that's under 3 years of use! I think you would find if oil changes and oil and fuel filter changes were done regularly you should get 20 plus years from an engine even at this usage, especially in fresh water like these boats! beside I can 't see anyone doing those kind of hours day in day out! but anyway my two bobs worth....cheers love your video's!

[@robertgold2643]

😎

[@Mulelicious]

But does have that awesome old bilge water smell? 🤪👍

[@seanrhone5306]

Yep, those Catalina pictures were pretty horrible!

[@saemijonsson2055]

❤

[@jeffhodge7333]

There is no live-aboard slip available on the West Coast. From Seattle to San Diego, every marina limits their live-aboard slips to only 10% of all slips. After you endure a waiting list, they want your boat to be no older than 20 years old, and your boat must be 36+ feet in length. So, on the West Coast, you can't live aboard a 1985 Catalina 30. You'd need a 2005 Catalina 36+ just to apply for a live aboard slip. Of course, every boat owner is allowed to spend the night aboard the boat for ten days a month.

[@chefandy72]

No morgan?

[@mikehurley5052]

Why would you repower after 6000 hours? double that is possible.

[@Paul-ou1rx]

I'm looking for a boat from the 80s just so I can name her The Sandy Lauper.

[@philo5096]

Something strange about these pics. You couldn't take newer pics, not very hard to do with our phones. Something going on here.

[@BillJohnston-y7o]

Nope, this is an everything bubble,, boats will go down for years.

Tim I’m in the market for a 37-42 footer. 125-200K What would you, or anyone in the LadyK community, go for? I’m really liking HR 37 and the Nauticat 37

[@gymcoachdon]

Look for a Nordic 40 or 44. I have a 44 and love it! Sail great, solid build, Robert Perry design. Refit, and could still be under budget.

[@UUBrahman]

Passport 40

[@stanleybest8833]

Free British sailboat on a trailer. Zip 13856. Any takers ?

[@symphonyfarm2009]

The Alberg 30 is STILL going around the world! @sailormanjames

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

1975....🧙🏻‍♂️