Laguna 14bx Bandsaw "Deep Dive" Examination by ToolMetrix

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@steveopseth8708
@steveopseth8708 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Paul. Very helpful review. Thank you.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve! I appreciate the feedback. Cheers, Paul
@christwait9000
@christwait9000 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Picked up a 220v 14BX from a local woodworking store, was able to see this on display right next to the 14/12. I originally was going to buy a 14/12 (finally have a dedicated shop space and a bandsaw has been on my buylist for a long time), but after seeing them both side by side the 14BX just seemed to feel a little more stout/beefier. I ran this saw for the first time this weekend; it resaws like a dream and the accuracy when cutting thin veneer (i tested it out on a 6" wide piece of cherry) was awesome, was able to get a 1/8 thick and a 1/16" thick cut with very little fuss & setup. (was using a Laguna 3/8" 4TPI blade.) And this is coming from someone with very little bandsaw experience, this is my first bandsaw purchase & I am wondering why I waited so long to get one! Keep up the good work, really enjoy this channel!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, Chris. You nicely summed up what impresses me most about these saws. They resaw like a dream right out of the box without the hassle that I used to associate with resawing.
@mattweaver5196
@mattweaver5196 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Paul! I'm in the market, this was super helpful!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! Hope all is well with you, sir.
@woodcrafts1
@woodcrafts1 4 жыл бұрын
My suggestion is do some homework on parts they are super expensive on the Laguna.
@eddiewurtz-bt5dt
@eddiewurtz-bt5dt Ай бұрын
Thank you so much,great video,very informative, I am pretty much convinced on purchasing the 14bx, just can't decide between 110 or 220volt.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 27 күн бұрын
Great to hear! This is more of a comparison of power rather than just voltage. If you have 220 service in your shop, the additional power makes this a pretty easy decision.
@giulianoMX
@giulianoMX 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Question, does it cut in an angle?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes, you can tilt the table to cut at an angle.
@markbranch6427
@markbranch6427 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Paul. Hoping to upgrade soon to a 14/12 possibly
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a good option!
@CogentConsult
@CogentConsult 5 жыл бұрын
Very well put-together video; very informative. I think that Laguna could’ve done a much better job in light selection, however, in that Halogen lights are extremely inefficient, produce such high heat that a person could end up with a serious burn if he/she accidentally touched that halogen lamp. LED would’ve been a much better choice; cool to the touch because it generates virtually no heat, and they’re very bright, last a long, long time, and draw a fraction of the wattage of halogen lamps...and LEDs are much cheaper in cost, too.
@markoddo9414
@markoddo9414 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed ... halogen is like 40 yr old technology... plus the filaments break easily if you hit the light with moderate force.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
These seem to have much more durability than those cheap portable lights that you get from home centers. I haven’t had to replace any bulbs and I haven’t heard of that being a problem. Laguna is in the process of moving to LED now. The new 1524 lathe uses an LED and it looks great.
@jasonbarile2014
@jasonbarile2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Curious where you heard they're switching to LED? This comment is a year old and they're still selling the halogen lights everywhere I've found.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
I had one on my 1524 lathe. It was sweet. If you search for LED on their website you will find it.
@jasonbarile2014
@jasonbarile2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Oh cool. Looked on their site and sure enough, it was right at the bottom of their page for the 14bx. Thanks!
@jakeanator2004
@jakeanator2004 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd love to hear them running in a side-by-side sound comparison
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jake. I don’t have these saws but you wouldn’t notice any difference. Both motors are nearly silent. The only sounds are blades and cutting.
@twisterbigmac
@twisterbigmac 8 жыл бұрын
what was the spark at 2:25?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 8 жыл бұрын
+Eason Qin Great question, and I'm glad that you posted it because I also received that same question privately. This is normal and happens frequently with ceramic guides, and nothing to be concerned about. The HD camera really captured one in dramatic fashion, but if you look closely at ceramic guides while cutting you can see sparks on an ongoing basis.
@brewbuildsit
@brewbuildsit 4 жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful review, thank you. I mainly want a bandsaw for dimensioning rough stock and will definitely do a lot of resawing once I have this capability. I also need a machine with a small foot print and good dust collection as I do not have a dedicated workshop to myself. Last but not least, I primarily do my woodworking with hand tools (with exception of plywood projects where I stick with a jigsaw, a small router and a nice track saw set up). So I planned on not putting much weight on the accuracy of a bandsaw as I’ll take a hand plane to it anyway and quite enjoy that process. But after viewing this review, I am excited about the quality of the finished product off the saw. It will allow me to do some fun veneer side projects (hanging lamps!) and to complete projects more efficiently and enjoy more time with my family.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brew, the quality can be very good if you have a good quality blade installed and the saw is tuned. The approach that I usually take for slicing veneer is to prep the board by planing both sides, slice off a veneer, then sand both sides. The side that was planed will only need light sanding, while the side that was resawn will need more. For veneer slicing, a high quality wide blade makes a BIG difference. If I was making a lamp, I would take the time to set up my Resaw King blade because the surface finish matters. If you have a drum sander in your shop, it's less critical to get a stellar surface off the resaw, but its still nice and it lets you waste a lot less wood. For most of my resawing (making 2 boards out of 1, or just using the bandsaw as a "low-dust planer"), I don't really care about getting a great surface finish right off the blade; I just care about flat. So, for that kind of resawing, I just leave my 1/2" 3 TPI blade on the saw and it does fine. I'd love to see the lamps that you make. A wood veneer lamp is on my "someday" list. :)
@TheLoneWolf1124
@TheLoneWolf1124 8 жыл бұрын
can't wait to get mine. just got the 240v outlet wired up.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 8 жыл бұрын
Good call. Let me know what you think.
@jimcastino
@jimcastino 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Disappointed that Laguna’s light is halogen? Old technology there. And very hot.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏. Older video. They have LED now as well.
@mikedisimile2478
@mikedisimile2478 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job explaining everything thank you
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Mike. Cheers, Paul
@tcbridges
@tcbridges 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Laguna14 DX 220 volt Ordered the wheel kit and the light. Need your advise on what blades I need I know I need 1/8'not sure on teeth Wanted 1/8 for schroling also want at the othher end a King Resaw Carbin blafe wheat would your 2 middle of the road blades would you want
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
The blade that sits on my saw 99% of the time is a 5/8" 2 TPI Timberwolf. Good enough for gentle curves, cutting up logs, resawing, etc. For slightly tighter curves I use relief cuts. For super tight curves I pull out the 1/8" blade and the Carter guide, and for critical resaw work I install the Resaw King.
@tcbridges
@tcbridges 3 жыл бұрын
How can I find out what is the best blade for most things you do on the BX want to do this plywood1/4" and thicker plywood and resaw 8' to 12' logs into nice planks. Don't know enough about the blades yet and don't want to waste money on blades I don't need. Saw chris choice but that might be the blade they sent with the saw?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, great question. I do most of my cutting with a 5/8" x 2 TPI Timberwolf blade. That works great for slicing up logs and most gentle curved cutting. It doesn't leave the cleanest edge on 1/4" plywood, but it's good enough for a lot of applications. If you want to cut tighter radius curves, you'll want a thinner blade. If you want a cleaner cut edge, you'll want more teeth. But the perfect blade for cutting logs is not going to be the same as the perfect blade for cutting 1/4" plywood. I try to use one blade that is "good enough" for a variety of applications so that I can avoid blade changes. But, I have 1/4 x 6 TPI blades for tighter radius work, and a 1/8" blade for scroll cutting, and if the situations requires it, I switch it up.
@jerryjohnson2270
@jerryjohnson2270 Жыл бұрын
If you could help me out on this .. i pick this unit 2 days ago same as yours specs for 700$ i thought was a good deal and in great shape barely used but missing the original fence and hope the guy finds it as he just moved lost in transit?, My question i see this per manual says to connect to a 15 amp in 220V. I called laguna and they say 20amp CB is preferred because of initial spike jump on start up then runs at 9.8 amps . I have it ready to wire CB to a 20 amp but thought i should just use the 15amp. I have 12/3 wire in Breaker box ready for the 20 or 15 CB what do you use as a connection ends at the wall and extension to the 14 gauge straight blade on motor .Also if the fence is not found would you by the laguna original or their upscale one 400$ or equivalent if there is one. Also for re-saw the king blade the best bang for this machine. Thanks So Much. Show less
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Жыл бұрын
The amperage draw will be determined by how hard you push it. I don’t know what circuit is needed. Stock fence is fine. I’d probably go with that.
@hubertpounall1323
@hubertpounall1323 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I resides over seas and would need some pricing thank you.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Please check with lagunatools.com for pricing and dealer information in your area.
@vintageguy768
@vintageguy768 5 жыл бұрын
in the video you said you could cut 13 inch boards on resaw yet the specs say 12 inches. what one is correct?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
I’m correct. I think they are being conservative.
@projectconfrontation2975
@projectconfrontation2975 4 жыл бұрын
What size tires does this saw use? Is it 14" or 12"?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
14"
@waynenelson8907
@waynenelson8907 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question and since you have knowledge of luguna band saws. I have the 14bx and had it about 4 months and got busy with other stuff, then got sick then busy again before i got to really use it. It functions but it does more burning than cutting and I am not forcing it into blade. I was going to to cut some 4 inch wide strips a 1/4" thick and i gave up after about 3 inches into cut and backed it off the blade. I will contact luguna also but have watched your videos before so thought id ask.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wayne, I’m guessing that your blade got flipped around and the teeth are pointing in the wrong direction. Take the blade off, coil it up, uncoil the other way, reinstall it and you will be all set. Happens all the time.
@waynenelson8907
@waynenelson8907 3 жыл бұрын
teeth are pointing down
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Is it doing that when you are free hand cutting or just when you use the fence? If it is doing it when you are free hand cutting then your blade has a severe problem. If it cuts fine in free hand mode but won’t cut when you are using the fence then you can do one of two things. Adjust the fence to compensate for drift or try to adjust the blade so that the drift goes away. For the latter look for a video by alex snodgrass. The former is quicker and easier and doesn’t bother my serenity.
@waynenelson8907
@waynenelson8907 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix I was using fence. Will check again when I get home. Thanks for the quick reply...
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Ok cool. Then it has to be fence alignment. Draw a straight line on a piece of scrap. Make a cut to follow the line. Stop half way through the cut and leave the work piece where it is. Adjust your fence to align to the work piece. Then try to rip using the fence. Should work with no problem.
@tonyy5482
@tonyy5482 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank :) The halogen light seems a bit old fashioned. No energy efficient LED alternative yet?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and good point on lighting. Halogen provides very good quality light but not cool temp and energy efficient like LED.
@jc51373
@jc51373 6 жыл бұрын
how do you put that 1/4 inch blade on there without the stock guide? Laguna recommends their (totally overpriced) micro guides, you can also get the carter jet1, but i see you set it up differently. Curious on how you pulled it off and if it was just for the review or if it worked long term.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
There’s not much to it; I just leave the side guides open. It works ok for modest curves but not for anything too tight. If I was doing a lot of scroll cutting I’d probably get a Carter stabilizer or the Laguna mini guides.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
BTW, that's a 1/8" blade that I'm using without the side guides engaged. I use the guides for 1/4" blades. I feel like I'm pushing my luck a bit in doing so, because those teeth are very close to the ceramic, and there's not a lot of side support on the blade, but so far I have not had a problem. I wouldn't want to do a lot of tight radius cutting this way, but it works fine for my typical uses. If I were going to make something that required a lot of tight turns with a 1/4" blade, I would want to use either the Laguna mini guides or a Carter stabilizer.
@rlattina
@rlattina 7 жыл бұрын
Can the 1.75 110v be wired 220v? Noticed the motor is listed as 110/220. Does Laguna provide both cords since the motor is labeled for both voltages?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, yes it can be wired for 220. It comes wired for 110 and only one cord is provided.
@nobody-ns2jm
@nobody-ns2jm Жыл бұрын
Hey, Paul - silly question. What breaker is needed need to run the 220v 14bx?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a 20 amp but I don’t remember for sure. I’d suggest checking the manual.
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 5 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the light mounted on top or in the front?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
I probably have a slight preference for side mounting to provide a better range of positioning options.
@cyberreefguru
@cyberreefguru 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. After so many years what are your thoughts on the 14bx now? I’ve recently read some not so positive reviews of the bx for regular curved cutting rather than resawing. Also, do you have experience with the Rikon 10-326 vs the 14bx? Keep up the great work.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
I upgraded to an 18bx a couple years back, but my friend still has one of the 14bx machines and he absolutely loves it. You can't beat it in its class for resawing. I used mine for curved cutting a lot and never had any problems. For tight curves using a 1/4" blade or smaller, you need to go with the mini guides or a carter guide. The standard ceramic guides are rated for use on blades down to 1/4", but I wouldn't recommend them for use with 1/4" blade because there isn't much blade to grab and if you hit the teeth with the ceramic it will dull the blade instantly. I haven't used the Rikon 10-326, but I had a 10-325 for a while. it was a decent saw, but did not have the same power as the 14bx. Also, the guides were not very nice at all, and a pain to adjust. I'm guessing that they have addressed this because it was a common complaint about the saw at that time, and it was about 5 years ago. The dust collection was also terrible on that saw. Other than that I liked the saw, and it ran smoothly.
@samsske
@samsske 8 жыл бұрын
What is the different between the BX and the SUV?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry; we haven't done a direct comparison on these two saws.
@Andluth
@Andluth 7 жыл бұрын
I am debating the 14/12 and the 110 14BX. Besides the brake is the 14BX worth the extra money? Both have the power and resaw capacity I need.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Andluth, I like the brake for safety reasons as well as convenience. I'm accustomed to it now so it would be hard to go back to not having one, but I really liked having the 14|12 as well. Power and capacity wise these saws are the same, so what it comes down to is the brake as well as the setup process. The BX goes together a lot quicker because of the unibody design. The additional dust port on the BX is also nice, although I mostly don't use it and I still get good collection.
@Andluth
@Andluth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I also read that the frame steel is thicker on the BX. Is that true? Is the BX significantly more stable (vibration) than the 14/12 and do you think the mobility kit makes a difference in stability? I hate a wobbly or shaky saw. Great channel!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 жыл бұрын
I have heard that the frame is thicker on the BX, but I haven't personally confirmed this. I did test for vibration on both saws and found them to be comparable. That is after replacing the tires on the 14|12, after there were some reported problems on early units which I had. Having said that, I could measure the difference with a sensitive meter, but I could not feel the difference myself, and I could definitely not assess any difference in cut quality before and after replacing the tires. So, if I closed my eyes while using them (not a great idea) I don't think I could tell the difference between these two saws. And I can't tell the difference in the final project. Thanks for the feedback on the channel. I'm hoping to put more time into it this year, cover some additional tools and maybe do some projects. Lots of ideas, not enough time. Such is life I guess.
@rajendranelumalai513
@rajendranelumalai513 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have sliding table attachment for your Band saw
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
No, I don’t.
@christschool
@christschool 8 жыл бұрын
I love my 14/Twelve. I wished it had the brake. The light on this new one is much better as well.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 8 жыл бұрын
@christschool I also used a 14|12 for a couple years and loved it as well. Yep, the brake is a nice upgrade, and I love that it shuts off the machine as well. I also agree about the new light with longer arm which allows you to position it more effectively.
@guate6
@guate6 4 жыл бұрын
Which light do you have on there?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
The halogen unit from Laguna.
@briancv83
@briancv83 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, do you have any experience with Grizzly bandsaws? Specifically this one: Grizzly G0513ANV - 17" 2 HP Bandsaw, Anniversary Edition Do you have any input or opinion on grizzly bandsaws in general? Thanks in advance for any input you might have.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I do not have any personal experience with Grizzly bandsaws. I hear mixed reports on their bandsaws from owners, and the trend that I'm sensing is that their lower-end cheapy models are problematic, and their higher end saws are quite nice and good value. To be fair, this deduction is formed from far too few data points to be defensible, but that's what my gut says at this point. Without knowing anything about that particular model, it seems like it's on the lower end of their price range for saws in its class, which would raise a concern given what I've heard. Having said that, it does not have a brake which partially explains the low cost (although it would be my preference to have a brake on a saw this size), and it seems to get predominately good reviews with over 100 customers providing input so far, so those things lower my concern level quite a bit. Sorry I don't have anything definitive for you.
@briancv83
@briancv83 6 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix thanks a bunch for taking time to respond. This is for a friend of mine. And I dont want him to buy junk, if possible. (I've got a laguna and I love it.) But I have always wondered where grizzly stands on the market.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely my pleasure sir. This question comes up a lot so I really need to see if I can get my hands on a grizzly bandsaw.
@briancv83
@briancv83 6 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix and other grizzly stuff. Their lathes look tempting to me... but I can't see buying one over the laguna. (Laguna is my favorite brand) The grizzly brand seems to be "good value" on face value. But I'm too scared to buy them in fear of bad quality.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
I put them in a slightly higher risk category. The only Grizzly tool that I own is an 8” jointer. Motor died shortly after I got it. After replacing it I haven’t had motor problems. I find that it performs ok but goes out of adjustment a lot and isn’t the smoothest running tool in my shop. That said it does the job and was a good value, but it feels like a step down in quality compared to the jet jointer that I had previously. That was a sweet machine.
@kristilbilyeu7682
@kristilbilyeu7682 3 жыл бұрын
Some really good information in your review! With it being a “deep dive” review, I was a little disappointed to see that you didn’t differentiate between some of the features that are on either the 1.75hp or the 2.5hp, but not on the other. Specifically, I noticed you mentioned the brake two or three times. Unless it’s changed since I bought my 2.5hp, the 1.75hp does NOT have the brake feature. One other area that’s different on the two saws are the lights. On the 1.75hp saw, the only light option is the canister-style light. It also has only one place to mount it-on the front above the table. For the 2.5hp saw, the articulating-arm light is the only option. It does, however, give you two choices for mounting. For me, the light information is fairly important because I find that the older I get, the more light I need 😂 Like you, my preference is the articulating-arm style. The two light styles are not interchangeable. The canister is a 110v light, and the articulating is a 220v light. Actually, I considered getting the 1.75hp so I wouldn’t have to add some 220v outlets. I would have had to do that eventually anyway for other tools I bought. For some folks, however, adding 220v outlets might not be an option for them, if they rent, for example. My point is that if I wanted to get the 1.75hp, I couldn’t get the articulating-arm light, and I wouldn’t have the brake, either. Those were the two deciding factors that caused me to go with the 2.5hp. I’m sorry if my comment sounds like I’m dinging your entire review video...I’m really not!!! You have some really good information overall 😊 I just wanted to alert you to the differences in the features and explain why it could be confusing for some, or even cause them to buy the wrong hp saw, if those features were important to them.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kristi, thanks for your comments. At the time that I filmed this there were no differences in features or accessories between the two saws other than the motor and the on-board outlet (2.5 HP outlet is wired for 220V, and on the 1.75 HP the outlet is wired 110V). Other than that, these saws are part-for-part identical. If there would have been more differences I would have covered them. You’re mistaken about the brake. All 14bx saws have always had one, and you can see that on the web site: lagunatools.com/classic/bandsaws/14bx-bandsaw/. You're also mistaken about the light. The 14bx 1.75 HP can use the articulating arm light, and in fact it is shown with one in this video. I think you’re confusing the 14bx 1.75hp with the 1412 which doesn’t have a brake, uses a 2 piece body, and some other subtle differences. Cheers, Paul
@bigcheesiecrawford2314
@bigcheesiecrawford2314 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone use these saws for cutting metals with? Looking to cut st/st exhaust tubing, but would mainly be used for aluminium
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that it would be too fast for cutting steel. Aluminum would work but might not be ideal. I’ve cut small pieces of aluminum but not much.
@bigcheesiecrawford2314
@bigcheesiecrawford2314 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix thankyou for the reply is there only one speed setting
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Single speed
@bigcheesiecrawford2314
@bigcheesiecrawford2314 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix thankyou again
@s6p6
@s6p6 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, good to see some actual measurements (indicators and vibration). Soon as You comment "dead flat ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnW4kGWpiZWYqsU ) on the cast iron table top surface, the mirror image of the blade (that is straight) is warped, though. Cool saw overall
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback. What you are seeing in the distortion of the blade reflection is not an indication of the table not being flat. I actually still have that saw, and the table is still flat.
@JohnnyS37
@JohnnyS37 5 жыл бұрын
Gah! Still trying to justify the $300 more for an extra dust port and a foot brake on the 14BX compared to the 1412. Decisions. 🤔
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnny, Super easy decision. Plunk down $100 more (or whatever the difference is currently) and get the 2.5 HP bx. You won’t regret that. 😉
@JohnnyS37
@JohnnyS37 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix I'd love to, however; I don't have 220v in my shop and don't have the luxury of upgrading the wiring. 😞 That's why I'm comparing the 1412 and the 14BX
@JohnnyS37
@JohnnyS37 5 жыл бұрын
Both the Laguna 1412 and the 14BX being 1.75HP. But I believe they're both able to be re-wired for 220 in the future? I'd have to check.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
I totally get that. Can’t go wrong either way between the two that you’re looking at.
@JohnnyS37
@JohnnyS37 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Do you feel the extra dust collection port and the brake on the 14BX is worth the extra cost over the 1412 with all things considered? I believe that's the two main additions other than the 14BX being all one frame compared to the 1412. Am I missing anything?
@jorgeluislameiralameira4015
@jorgeluislameiralameira4015 6 жыл бұрын
Moro no brasil quero compra uma
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Please check with Laguna: lagunatools.com/
@jimmclean9312
@jimmclean9312 3 жыл бұрын
Dreat machines except for the switch, replaced mine twice now at 200 bucks a pop
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh! That’s not cool at all. I haven’t had any problems with mine.
@rw7532
@rw7532 4 жыл бұрын
That’s it......I’m buying one!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Which one will you go with?
@rw7532
@rw7532 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix 110 volt. Looking at the 14 bx. I like the idea of the foot brake. How does the Laguna wheel kit not get in the way of the brake?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Great saw. The pedal for the wheel kit is positioned on the left side of the saw and the brake is on the right. No interference at all.
@rw7532
@rw7532 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix well I decided to go with the 1412. The ten percent off sale on laguna ended today. The 14 bx was about 20% more people than the 1412. I have never had a band saw and am not exactly sure how much I will use it. I wanted to get a good saw just because I don’t want to learn on a crappy machine. Plus, I wanted something I could “grow into” should my interests and skill take me in a new direction. I bought it today and it’s on back order until the end of October. The foot brake looked like a great idea. I read a few reviews about the brake system breaking and rendering the saw unusable. Since I won’t have anyone working with me i figure that eliminates one reason for the brake. The placement and size of the off switch makes me think the executing of an emergency stop might be easier to just hit the switch than trying to find the brake with my foot. Sounds like laguna worked out some of the quality control and customer services issues that were a cause of complaints about three years ago. Once again thanks for your reviews.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll love the 1412. I like having a brake but it’s not a must have.
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 6 жыл бұрын
I think you sold me.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
You won’t regret it. :)
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 6 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Do you need any special guides to run an 1/8" blade or will it run on the stock guides?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ilan, you cannot run an 1/8" blade with the stock guides. The teeth will contact the ceramic guides and will be dulled instantly. For a blade that small, you can use the Laguna mini guides lagunatools.com/accessories/bandsaw-accessories/ceramic-guides/mini-guide/, which are softer and won't damage the blade, or you can use a Carter stabilizer www.carterproducts.com/jet-16-20-laguna-16-jet1.
@IlanDavid
@IlanDavid 6 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Thank you! What's the smallest blade you can run on the stock guides? 3/16"? 1/4" ?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Practically speaking I’d say 1/4. I’ve never tried a 3/16” blade but I feel like it would be beyond pushing your luck. Maybe with a high tooth count and shallow gullets you could get away with it.
@Lee-qp6gf
@Lee-qp6gf 5 жыл бұрын
I've had my 18" for about three years and I hate it so much I hate to walk by it. The guide set up sucks, the table tilt adjuster sucks, The two table locks don't tighten the table and with a little bush it will tilt. Dangerous with something heave near the edge. A lot of luck adjusting the bottom guides as you can't get a hand in there and I have to use a channel lock to tighten. The blade guides rotate as you tighten on the top and bottom. Terrible engineering. Oh, you can't change the side you fence is on with the blade in without taking the fence off. Did I say I hate this saw? Lee
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Lee, ugh! That sucks. Sorry to hear that you have had such a negative experience.
@mrk1075
@mrk1075 5 жыл бұрын
@5:16 A lot of vibration? you don't want vibration, don't buy it.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually a very smooth bandsaw.
@annoorkhan4219
@annoorkhan4219 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of the machine and its performance is too poor. After sales support is also very bad. All machines are made in Taiwan or China. So our strong recommendation is not to buy any machine from Laguna Tools.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Sorry to hear this.
@Rich32262
@Rich32262 4 жыл бұрын
Where are bandsaws made other than Asia? And at what price for a comparable saw?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 жыл бұрын
Laguna has a line of saws that are made in Italy, I believe. Look for the LT Series. Also, Agazzini is a good European bandsaw. Yep, more expensive. If the price difference were 10% I’d own a European bandsaw. But it’s more like 80%. I’m not a wealthy man, and I haven’t had any problems with my Taiwanese bandsaw, so it seems like a good option for many of us.
@annoorkhan4219
@annoorkhan4219 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToolMetrix Laguna are not manufacturer.so it will be good if possible to buy from manufacturer.i perchesed few products from Laguna. there support are extremely bad.
@mrk1075
@mrk1075 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, I can get a 14" G0555LX Grizzly bandsaw for $550.
@hawkeye10100
@hawkeye10100 5 жыл бұрын
I have the G0555LX and trouble is all I have had with it. I am getting ready to buy a Laguna 14BX.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
That might be true but that is not in the same class as a 14bx.
@SH-rm4gw
@SH-rm4gw 7 жыл бұрын
Save your money and buy and older real bandsaw.
@jc51373
@jc51373 6 жыл бұрын
bullshit...i'd put this saw against any old bandsaw in a similar class.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion, SH. I respectfully disagree, but I understand the allure of old iron as well.
@SH-rm4gw
@SH-rm4gw 3 жыл бұрын
@@jc51373 how do you propose to do competition? For one thing, the old one will still be going in another 100years, meanwhile this modern junk wont last 5 years in a shop environment.
@woodworker6724
@woodworker6724 6 жыл бұрын
it looks like a cheap plastic kids toy made in China
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
interesting perspective. There's not very much plastic on these, and they are not all that cheap. I wish I had one of these to play with when I was a kid. :)
@woodworker6724
@woodworker6724 6 жыл бұрын
Under $2K for a Taiwanese made woodworking machine isn't cheap? Compared to what? finger reattachment surgery?
@MrChrissy1r
@MrChrissy1r 6 жыл бұрын
If I were "given" two Bandsaws, I would big them up too... This just goes to prove how little these things are to make in reality. I am a time served Master carpenter and joiner,/wood machinist, (Specialised in Bespoke joinery) any one want to "give " me machines to report on??
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks for the comment. I’ve never heard the word ‘big’ used as a verb. Interesting. Sounds like a British thing? 🤔 As far as making a bandsaw I’ve never considered it but it doesn’t seem little to make from my perspective, assuming that little = easy. (Another Brit-ism?). Congrats on achieving master carpenter status btw. Neat accomplishment. We don’t have the trade of “wood machinest” here in America. What does that indicate? Show me some samples of tool reviews that you have done and we can talk about eval tools.
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