Lake Cycling - why I think they are the BEST cycling shoes on the market!

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[@redgar6467]

Kudos for you trying to explain these differences. It was quite an issue for me because the Comfort Plus 45.5 showed a width of 111 vs Competition Last showing 117 and based on foot measuring I would not have fit the 201 and thus never considered it. Ended up with MX238 XC on sale and took the spikes off. Have not ridden yet..still practicing clipping in and out.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Cool! I’m glad I could help out. Please report back when you’ve been out riding.

[@couillard60]

Thank you for this video. I live in Canada and Lake shoes are only available online. I've been wanting to try this shoe for a long time, with your precious advice I'll finally be able to order some, probably cx242 wide. Have a nice day, keep up the good work!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@couillard60 I sell a lot of CX242 shoes. The individual sections in the upper are very good for people with bunions or others foot shapes

[@EnligUlv]

My personal vantage point is that Sidi seems to fit my feet perfectly. Not sure what model of Lake would be similar, but I’d certainly be open to purchasing a pair.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello sir! Once you or I take your measurements we will see what Lake shoe options we have for you. I know you’ve been happy with Sidi but and if you fit in the top end Lake shoe like a CX403 it blows the Sidi top end shoe out of the water 😊

[@davefrie]

This video randomly popped into my feed, but made me think of my first semi-real job as a gofer at a bike shop in Evanston, Illinois called Turin Bikes. The shop's founder was named Lee Katz, and he also started Lake, and acronym for Lee A Katz Enterprises, or so I was told. (Sorta went on a date with his daughter.)

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@davefrie yes it’s all true except I can’t verify whether there was a love connection between you and the daughter 😂

[@AJXOXO-vz1pn]

Oh wow! I thought because of Lake’s origins near Chicago, Illinois, I thought he name for the company (Lake) was due to the company’s proximate to the Great Lakes. 😂 Good to know the real story now!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@AJXOXO-vz1pn yep! Thanks for watching

[@n22pdf]

100% agree George Lake are the best shoes I’ll never wear another brand I have 4 pairs of lake and all are excellent, durable, comfortable all day long and excellent quality. Very interesting to learn more about the Lasts.. Pete 🚴🏻👍🚴‍♀️

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@n22pdf not to one up you but I have 5 pair 😂 😂 😂

[@n22pdf]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad😅 oh no I need another pair lol don’t tell my wife 😅😅 Pete 😂

[@n22pdf]

Actually just checked I do have 5 pairs to 😅😅😅😅

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@n22pdf niiice! 😂

[@buster.keaton]

I hoping Lake expands the Comfort Plus last line-up. That's the only last out of any shoe manufacturer that is truly wide in the toe box area and doesn't crush one's toes.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@buster.keaton I hope so too!

[@DDai-qd8uk]

The comfort plus last is great, pity it's let down by inbuilt obsolescence. I hope they revise the t-nut plate in the current only comfort plus last shoe to be replaceable and when a customer has an issue with a faulty product, they solve it instead of ghosting them like myself and many others.

[@JasonBrooksfuturelevel]

Love my Quocs for a comfortable wide shoe.

[@senseye1977]

Thank you so much for your video. I've been looking into Lake shoes for a while now and I thing I would go for the CX242. Unfortunately, I'm between 2 widths at 107mm on a size 43.5! Can the regular go up to 6mm or the wide down 6mm? Don't know why Lake has such a gap between widths on the CX242.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@senseye1977 why would ever go down?!?! Your choice is obvious you go with the 113mm. I don’t understand why you think you have a dilemma and why you want to throw shade on Lake? You also have the Race Last that would fit you in a Wide at 109.24 mm. Are you in the US 🇺🇸 FYI - Lake needs to make a “large” difference between the two widths otherwise what would be the point of providing two lasts so 101mm-113mm seems more than appropriate. You want a tighter band between shoes then step up to the Race last. You are in a golden position, in fact you also fit the Comfort Plus last! You fit THREE shoe lasts from Lake! Yay!!😁

[@senseye1977]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad 6mm allowance for width in my case is huge. And no it was not my intention for you or anybody to think I was throwing shade on lake hence my interest in them. I just don't understand why this decision was made for the competition last just to have 2 widths as they have 3 with the race last. I was able to try on a CX403 43.5 Wide and felt I needed a bit more length. I ended up with the CX333 44 regular. Love the fit, I need to feel the sides of the shoe on my feet.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@senseye1977they just came up with 3 lasts for the Race last. They used to only have 2. I am glad you have been able to fit into the CX403 it is without a doubt the best shoe for me. Regarding the large disparity in the Competition shoe 1. I sell more Competition shoes than Race - 2. The Competition last/complete shoe is cheaper to make than the Race last/shoe so you can make three different versions of it and it’s more affordable to make and to sell to the consumer. 3. Many people have wide feet and have not been able to find comfort for years. They try one on and then they they try the bigger one and decide on the bigger one even with all the extra space. They want that extra room they’ve never had before. You are like me you like feeling the sides of the shoe 😊😊

[@robdogracing]

I want a road race shoe in the comfort plus last. Then and only then will I be convinced.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@robdogracing ha ha you can race the Comfort last shoe all day long! 😂

[@ChristianvanAsten]

Thanks!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

You’re Welcome ! Thanks for watching Christian ❤

[@daniel.kwlu23]

sir can i ask is 53/39 chainring good for climbing 🙏👍🏿

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

It is for me. You have to decide that by where you live and what grades you encounter and/or suffer on.

[@daniel.kwlu23]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad the highest gradient here is 9.6 and the lowest was 4.7, do u think i can train my legs with 53/39 for the future race, im currently using 50/34

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

⁠there SO many things I don’t know about you. I would say a 10% grade isn’t that steep for a 53/39 depending on you and the Cassette you’re using.

[@daniel.kwlu23]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad alright thank u sir

[@njm3211]

George where are you located?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@njm3211 San Diego California

[@laneromel5667]

I have wide feet, for me Lake Shoes are the bomb. I also really like leather shoes over synthetic materials. I have tried to fit into Shimano, it was a painful experience.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@laneromel5667 ain’t nobody got time for dat! 😂

[@doughorner5730]

I agree Lake makes great shoes, fantastic quality and probably the most fit options of any manufacture. I've tried them but for now have settled on Bont. Perhaps the 403 might convince me otherwise.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@doughorner5730 403 is the only shoe that is like a Bont because of the full carbon tub. I had Bonts years ago they were too stiff. I am a Bont dealer maybe I should try on a newer model.

[@doughorner5730]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad The bont's are ultra stiff for sure but even though I don't race anymore I find them comfy and love the direct connect feel. 4 hours is about my max so perhaps I might change my mind if they bothered me on longer rides.

[@doughorner5730]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Also I'm always game for something better so I will check out the new Lakes when I get a chance.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@doughorner5730 What shoe do you wear from Bont? I might order a pair. It's a been a long time. What is their top-end shoe? Vaypor S has the only closure pattern I might consider. The Vaypor and the Vapor + have very conventional closures and after riding a Lake CX403 you don't want to go back to those types of closure systems.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@doughorner5730 One thing I noticed straightaway is for my specific foot size Bont has a a 4mm length window where Lake only has a 2.5mm window. For example Bont 281-285 whereas Lake is 283.5 - 286 -- I can dial in the fit better with a Lake shoe than I can with a Bont shoe. I wear a narrow shoe so that measures 99mm in Lake - but Bont is a range 97-100mm. Only way to find out is to order a pair I guess.

[@ellerybice3787]

I agree, buy for the future. Question is though, WHY DO MANUFACTURES PRACTICE THIS SCENARIO, BUILD A GOOD PRODUCT for a time, AND THEN DISCONTINUE IT? 🤯

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@ellerybice3787 it is a great question! I don’t know why. I wonder if sales on a product declines and they think they need to spruce it up? Engineers and designers have to justify their job so they need to keep tweaking an existing product line. Sometimes the changes are for the better though. Also they look at the market in the broader sense and niche products or products that work for a smaller market segment can’t sustain a company long term. I mean Coca Cola comes out with different flavors but they keep their cash cow original flavor. Just my thoughts

[@MontyWoo64]

Super helpful vid - thanks :-)

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@MontyWoo64 you’re welcome! Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing.

[@theantichrome9842]

Love my Lakes.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching!

[@CoreProject05]

They are great shoes, however the size differences and last and voluma differences are just crazy I own cx332X, mx332XX and cx403X all different sizes. They claim to be the same but a 40.5 CX and a 40.5 MX are different in length..volume. Lake is great only if you have a shop with unlimited SKU-s and models nearby, else the exchange and trial , error procedure is a pain in the b..

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I own a shop and don't carry a single Lake shoe in stock...ever! I order them as needed when I have done a foot analysis, history of medical issues, and a foot trace. My hit rate is well over 95%. I'm being conservative, but I can't remember the last time I ordered a shoe for someone and it didn't fit. I need more information about your specific situation. Below are the measurements from their website for the Race last. Are you complaining because each of your shoes are different lasts and they fit differently? Don't you think that's by design? You have a CX332 wide, then you have an MX332 mtb shoe is Extra wide and a CX403 wide which is their slimmest fitting shoe race specific shoe. These are 3 COMPLETELY different shoes. I'm confused what you are complaining about. Please help me understand. I might have missed your point. Length (253.5 - 256) 40.5 Race 90mm 100.8mm 103.24mm

[@CoreProject05]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad my story is complex. Sidenote: I use sidas custom insoles in every shoe. I did the measurements. In theory 40 extra wide is my fit. Cx/mx332 and cx403 are using the same last and measurements, except that there is no xtrawide from the cx403 1st wanted to buy a cx332 Cx332 40 extra wide was simply too short. 40.5 extra wide that time was not available so went w 40.5 wide and it worked. Then an accident happened to my 332, I thought I’m going to buy a 40.5 wide cx403 on the crash replacement discount. Went with 40.5 and it was so big ..like Noah’s ark 😄, 40 is okay but if you set the cleats identically to the 332 it is still visibly longer than the 40.5 332. Now I needed a new mtb shoe, okay I knew 332X works but I need 332XX and size 40. I went w mx332xx, 40 and 40.5 . 40: The feel was even worse than with the cx332xx 40. Was short and tight. 40.5 was okay in the room felt good. But had to test it on the bike..and the volume is soo much, compared to cx332X 40.5 that I don’t really like but can’t exchange anymore due to mounting cleats. Lessons learnt: -from MX I should’ve stayed w 40.5 wide (now normal) eventhough measurements at home, at a lake approved bikefitter says 40, extea wide🥺 -CX403x and cx332x eventhough lake said using the same last, same toe length. In the same sizes there is a measureable difference (0.3-0.4 cm) difference between them in length

[@f.kieranfinney457]

I’ve never seen a Lake shoe in any bike store I’ve visited. They have a rep for fitting oddly, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Correct I don’t carry any Lake shoes in my store either but I sell hundreds of them by providing the exact shoe my customer needs for their feet. 🦶 Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

[@f.kieranfinney457]

I won’t buy a shoe I can’t try in multiple sizes. It’s a problem. Few stores carry much inventory any more.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@f.kieranfinney457I understand! I’ve worked in bigger bike shops during my career. People would come in try shoes on then buy them online. I’d see these riders at events or group rides and notice their shoes and they would literally tell me that’s what they did. I understand a sale but I would tell them you could have given me a chance to match the price and they would say oh I didn’t know that. Shops reduced their shoe inventory and the top end stuff was all special order and then eventually all shoes were special order as shoe companies started selling direct to consumer. That’s the real reason shops don’t carry shoes anymore. A shop buys a full size run of shoes and then the shoe company will discount them on their site lower than the price we paid for them. People don’t want to be bothered by going into their local bike shop and try on shoes so our inventory sits and it’s huge money sunk and then we have to blow it out just to pay our invoices because the shoe company won’t ship us a 42.5 in black because we still owe them on the size run. Then we have to pay $2000 or $5000 to order a $300 shoe for a customer 😮 This is the shit that happens I’ve been in the bike business over 20 years and seen the changes and challenges.

[@contactkrit]

In my personal opinion, Lake is the best cycling shoes. I always use in AUDAX and I could finished BRM 600 in comfort feet😊.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@contactkrit agreed! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

[@contactkrit]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Already.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

⁠thank you for your subscription 😊

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@contactkrit I can’t remember if I mentioned it but finished PBP in 2023 in Lake CX403 - Race Last

[@knife1406]

theyre high quality, and make wide sizes with more natural feet shape which is such a problem in cycling shoes (and just shoes in general). I think it's a fashion thing where people like the pointed toe look like dress shoes, but we're cycling, it needs to be functional and comfortable. I bought mine before they had the comfort plus series, wish I had that instead.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@knife1406 it just seems like shoes have to be pointed I don’t know why but I agree more shoes should look like Bonts or the Comfort Plus last.

[@jayobannon5359]

Only shoes I've found that fit my feet. Problem is they change styles. I have an old pair that are truly amazing. But decided after 4 years to get a new pair. They no longer have that model, by the one that replaces it, just doesn't fit the same. Bummer.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@jayobannon5359 hmm! Sounds like I give sound advice about buying 2 pair when you find something that fits

[@soytupadre6360]

How do I contact you for a well fitting pair?

[@knife1406]

video description dude

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I get this question often. Unless I’m busy or distracted my direct contact info is in the description… Twice 😂

[@bb-r5710]

Nice cycling shoes but I had problems with them fitting my foot. ❤

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@bb-r5710 did you get the correct last?

[@bb-r5710]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Yes, I tried two models and it just was not narrow enough for my feet. Love the style and material. May try again as the styles change.❤️

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@bb-r5710 what did you foot measure in length + 5mm what did you foot measure in width at the widest point?

[@bb-r5710]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad The model I tried was CX403 Women’s. My size 37 EU (229 mm). The width of my foot at its largest point is 3.75 inches or 76.2 mm. I also have insoles but I tried the shoes with and without. ❤️

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@bb-r5710 229mm does that include the +5mm? 3.75 inches converts to 95.25 mm I’m sure that’s a typo 👆 (not 76.2) The Competition last is 100mm in the wide shoe. The Race last is 96.24 both or either of those shoes should work unless the original foot trace is inaccurate.

[@patrickoshea9398]

They are lead bricks which you need to spin around at 90rpm. Just too heavy.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I will concede they are heavier than some shoes in a static position but completely irrelevant and here’s why. Comfort is far more important than how much a shoe weighs. Furthermore, the importance of rotational weight such wheels or more specifically rim weight has been debunked many times. That’s old school thinking and does not matter. Weight only matters at the moment of inertia - when you start rotating it or stop rotating it. Otherwise it’s completely irrelevant! So your point is… irrelevant 😂

They're not. They dont fit really really wide foot (120x256mm)... Then again: nothing fits :

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Yeah well just because they don’t fit your ridiculous wide feet which are in a less than 1% of the riding population doesn’t not make Lake Cycling shoes the best shoes in the industry. You didn’t prove me wrong 😂😂

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

120mm width is proportional to a 47 shoe (296.5-300mm) it’s just not reasonable/profitable/financially responsible for Lake to make to fit riders like yourself. 😊😊

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I checked Bont for their double wide and they only go up to (256-260) 110-115mm 😮 For my edification what road cycling shoes did you end up with? I think I saw sandals with SPD attachments once before

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Flat pedals and Altra Timp 4

[@ellerybice3787]

George, why does this happen so many times? You find a good product, you come to like it and it works well for you. And then the product becomes scarce or not available at all. Manufactures are really STUPUD in their marketing decisions many times.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@ellerybice3787 this is why I said in my video if you find a shoe that works buy 2 of them or more. Sorry this happened to you. 😢

[@ellerybice3787]

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