Lamzu Thorn: GOD TIER

[@JLeeCN]

Just got my Lamzu Thorn 3 days ago without watching any reviews beforehand and buying purely based on its shape and specs. I can confidently say its the best mouse I've ever used

[@seonis]

I'm glad 🥰

[@fwabble]

Ahii heeeeeard that!

[@denysbalanchuk]

please tell me the previous mice that you used, and your hand size if it is possible

[@RobbieSpex]

What size hands have you got? I've just got my Thorn and I love it but I almost wish it was a little smaller (18cmx10cm here)

[@tinocabral4201]

@@RobbieSpexhow’s it holding up?

[@NOVEDLEFT]

I love the Lamzu Thorn

[@higheuphoria]

This convinced me To Get a Lamzu Thorn, thanks for the insight!

[@seonis]

Omg the higheuphoria himself 🫣

[@kunta4892]

wait this might be your best video yet..!

[@seonis]

Thankee👉👈

[@patatedouceyaim1407]

GET THE FANTIC VERISON - COATING IS GREAT !

[@trungucnguyentran6429]

cant agree more. Fnatic version including 4k dongle and not more expensive than basic version.

[@R3APER-350xx]

bought it on a whim cuz amazon recommended it, thought maybe i was trippin but it seems like everyone that uses it for the most part loves it as well. genuinely a great mouse thats actively replacing my gpx superlight

[@tinocabral4201]

@@R3APER-350xxhow’s it holding up?

[@R3APER-350xx]

@@tinocabral4201 pretty well, battery life could be better but i can still get a couple days of use on 2k polling, overall great if your into ergos or want to try a decent one without breaking the bank. I ended up landing on wlmouse for my daily use though being the battery lasts me a couple more days of use on 2k polling and I see better results in fps games with it the thorn is still in my regular rotation for backup when charging or if I just feel like using a more comfortable shape for the day

[@Swedux]

I actually returned my Thorn. The coating felt like an egg and it was honestly slightly too big for me even though I've got large hands. 19.5x10.5. It was hard to determine though. I spent a good week comparing it to my Gpro and ultimately I just aim better with the Gpro. More control basically. I absolutely preferred it over the EC and DAv3 shapes. A few mm smaller with better coating and it would've been the one but alas.

[@seonis]

Some people will just never let go of the good ol' G Pro shape

[@realduox]

coating is a deal breaker but everything else about that mouse is pretty spectacular.

[@fwabble]

Madness - the coating is so good on mine (white) better than the XM2we

[@realduox]

im not saying its bad bro. I just personally have an averison to to that texture. I need glossy or rough coating personally. The soft touch stuff makes my hands feel gross and makes me need grip tape on the sides.@@fwabble

[@lostpacket]

coating is great, you are highAF

[@realduox]

This coating has no grip for me, just like the Superlight. It falls out of my hand. Glad it works for you. @@lostpacket

[@xRealUzz]

@@realduox buy grips then

[@pandiem]

It's been about 3-4 years since I switched away from my EC2-A to a ambi finalmouse because supposedly ambi was best for aiming. Maybe for peak performance it's better, but deep down I've always missed the comfort of EC2 shape. That comfort I think is what could lead to some more consistency when just picking up and playing. I'll probably make the switch fairly soon.

[@seonis]

I've always been worried that I would aim worse with an ergo, but they feel so comfortable without sacrificing much.

[@pandiem]

I think I would need something smaller now though. Picked up my old ec2 and my grip is no longer suited for that, it needs some more freedom.

[@seonis]

@@pandiem thorn's length is 119mm vs the EC2's 123mm. You could give the thorn a shot if the length bothers you

[@oldirtykiIIa]

Ordered it a couple of days ago, really cant wait for it to arrive. Replacing my GPW Nice review 👍🏽

[@seonis]

G pro is a decent mouse. The thorn will be a huge upgrade! Hope you enjoy it

[@oldirtykiIIa]

@@seonis g pro is decent but has flaws unfortunately, I expected it to be better for its price when it came out Like side thumb clicks were horrible, shape struggled me a lot to get comfortable with to a point that my hand was in pain Probably because my hand is 19cm and previous mouse was Zowie Ec2-a and DeathAdder V2 Hopefully this one changes things 🤞

[@neeezyy]

u got it? @@oldirtykiIIa

[@mapotofuu]

I feel like most Lamzu shapes are much too safe to have an endgame shape and whilst it definitely does not work for me it's nice to have a more aggressive shape from them

[@Xoilen]

It’s an ergo shape but I’m not sure I’d call it aggressive, I can claw or fingertip it easily and both feel natural, a really aggressive shape would make you feel forced into a specific grip

[@ChessBoxin]

Ive had my thorn for a year now. Have you switched up the stock feet yet with any dot skates? i havent used dot skates yet and was thinking to try them on this mouse. I personally prefer the stock skates without the 2 mini ones. Its noticably easier for me to flick or swipe without them on.

[@Slambars94k]

In the lamzu app can you revbind scroll wheel up/down this is somewhat of a big factor for me since I dislike the idea of using an mmo mouse.. I already have an outset ax and I am strongly considering a thorn or waiting to see about the Maya x.. great review,, very positive you probably made some people on the fence for sure try the thorn out

[@EnnTomi1]

welcome to the EC2 club. the shape is just god tier for sure. but sadly no ultra light weight mouse of this one has been made yet. the most avaliable one would be strombreaker (55g) and XliteV2 mini (55gram) really wish there is a sub40gram EC2 shape mouse with 2k polling and awesome battery life. still waiting.

[@im.deh11]

kinda imposible rn, the closest one is the Lamzu Thorn and the Sprime PM1 even tho the shape is kinda different

[@smokeholm1925]

xlite v3?

[@im.deh11]

@@smokeholm1925 yes but it weight at 56 gram, the sprime pm1 is lighter at 45 gram but the shape is more like the g703 (which i like better due to the bigger hump in the middle)

[@smokeholm1925]

@@im.deh11 11 gram difference isnt that much on an ergo shape

[@Garoukls]

i got the lamzu x fnatic and it so good very good quality build better than gpx

[@seonis]

It's amazing. My favourite 🐁

[@Agent_Alpha_SLV]

Really tempted to try out the Thorn, have been using the DAv3 Pro alongside the Pulsar X2, don't know if i'll enjoy the Thorn

[@seonis]

It's a great mouse. You could try ordering one from Amazon and returning it if it's not for you

[@lonrea2886]

You will not regret buying the thorn!

[@k1ttyyh]

Try Waizowl OGM Cloud, thing is slapping if youre looking for an ambi that has some heft to it (not weight-wise, its 55g)

[@gentleman4295]

Hey brother good video, I have a question i don't know what to choose between this mouse and the lamzu mini, i'm claw griper and my hand are small like 18cm,8cm lol, what do you think it will fit better for me ?

[@voxuuu9551]

best ergo if you don't like the xlite v3(zowie ec) shape. claw ergo perfect for medium sized hands. dav3pro may have marginally better tech but its worse quality for sure. using the thorn in charcoal black for like 3 weeks now.

[@seonis]

Lovely little ergo

[@arsicira]

id love to get it but i think its too big for my hands. probably gonna buy one of the newer g wolves mice instead since i cant really find any nice ergo mice that would fit my hand size

[@hacowl]

has it got any build quality issues like a lot of mouse click wobble when pressing down, since youve had it for 3+ months now. also you should do a long term review

[@3ildcard]

Banger! Do you have any plans to review/roundup mousepads too or you main focus is on mice as of right now?

[@seonis]

I don't buy mousepads, so it's only mice yes. Roundups might be something I'd do in the future, however I don't buy enough mice for me to be interested in that for now ;)

[@floofy1]

Hi, i've been using a logitech g502 for 10 years since 2014. My grip is similar to yours. Do you think the Logitech Superlight 1 or the Lamzu Thorn would be better/most similar to the g502? thank you

[@seonis]

Going from an ergo to an ergo is a safe choice. The GPX is a great mouse, but the potato shape will catch you off guard

[@floofy1]

Alright thanks alot kind sir! mine should arrive in 2 days ish, will play with it and see if im still able to frag out like i usually do or if i do worse. would update here!@@seonis

[@jien4458]

Any opinion between the thorn and the atlantis? Current using a GPX and the locked in feeling you mentioned is quite appealing to me. I usually have to keep adjusting my grip on the GPX as i’m aiming.

[@seonis]

I cut out a bit of the video where I compared the stability I felt similar to the gpx. I was describing it as an ergonomic gpx, but obviously that sounds a bit silly. I only have the Atlantis mini, so it's a very different shape. Although I definitely prefer the thorn for the locked in feeling it gives me over the mini just due to the larger size

[@SMACKiiNG]

Enjoyed mine for a couple weeks.. until i tried the viper pro 3 😒

[@Eqxu]

Would you still recommend the htx ace? I'm looking for a new mouse for finger tip grip. I found some mice I like but I cant decide which to choose. Sora V2 X2H Mini (for 30% off) X2V2 (for 30% off) HTX ACE

[@seonis]

Depends on what size you prefer. Personally, I would go for the pulsar mice.

[@Eqxu]

@@seonis Oh okay, I'll look into that. Do you still use the HTX ACE?

[@Eqxu]

@@seonis WAIT does the HTX ACE come with a dongle?

[@seonis]

@@Eqxu it is wireless yes

[@Eqxu]

@@seonis ah okay thanks. Also, do you know which of the firmware updates are the most recent ones from the website?

[@Met845]

This or the maya? Want to upgrade!!

[@seonis]

I like the thorn a lot more, but both are good. If you like a safe smaller mouse try the Maya.

[@ezekiellorenzdeleon6283]

I have been using the viper mini for years now and I've been getting hand cramps with it and I cant seem to decide if I should get the lamzu maya or thorn ( I use claw grip and my hand size 18.3x10.6cm)

[@seonis]

Maya is going to be an easy switch from a viper mini, but if you take a decent gamble the thorn might be goated for you.

[@justinb8297]

been using atlantis mini for a year now, and just ordered myself a thorn because i have kind of larger hands. do you think ill like the Thorn more?

[@seonis]

If you have larger hands and claw then most definitely

[@Altamimi911]

Im aggressive claw grip and gpx is uncomfortable for me And mz1 is the best for my hand I should go with which lamz please?

[@seonis]

If you have bigger hands a lamzu Atlantis v2 sounds good for you

[@gamblr4022]

Ive been using viper mini should i upgrade to lamzu and if yes then which model coz im used to viper mini

[@seonis]

Lamzu Maya is the closest imo!

[@lxca331]

it doesn’t feel that good for me but ive only had it for 2 days should i keep trying?

[@seonis]

If it doesn't feel good then I'd put it away. Right now I'm using the BeastX mini and it definitely isn't for me unlike my excellent first experience with the thorn.

[@Maz-m-z]

@seonis what mousepad are you using?

[@seonis]

LG YOUPIN Custom Glass Pad: metroglide.etsy.com/listing/1565550756

[@Maz-m-z]

​@@seonis Thank you for taking your time to reply to my message :-)❤

[@champagnepop]

can you share your Lamzu mouse settings? im having trouble with my LOD 😅

[@seonis]

If your mouse isn't tracking properly try high lod

[@iJansport]

another thorn user. do you notice on 4k or even 2k the battery is horrible? i put it down to 1k so i don't need to charge it every 2-4 days. also side note i love how your crosshair on val is a thick dot. everybody always uses small dots. any chance you could comment back the code for that crosshair please?

[@seonis]

I can definitely notice a noticeable increase in smoothness with high polling in aimtrainers, however I wouldn't say it's very necessary for games. Although I still run 4k for that slight advantage :p I'll reply later with the crosshairs settings once I'm home

[@seonis]

Outline thickness: 1 Centre dot thickness: 2 Inner lines: 1 1 4 0

[@dbg0d]

is it good for relax claw ?

[@seonis]

If your hands aren't massive then yes totally

[@staceejaxx3071]

Just ordered the fnatic thorn since includes the 4k dongle

[@seonis]

Fantastic mouse ;)

[@Pharmaceutics]

hi, how does this mouse hold up versus the death adder v3 pro ?

[@seonis]

I haven't used the DA. I know that the V3 is bigger and longer than the thorn, so if your hand size is similar to mine the thorn is probably a better buy.

[@repulsing]

this guy has crazy arms

[@repulsing]

cool mouse too i guess

[@juandavidtorresruiz8493]

What resolution do you use?

[@Krausum]

is it good for fingertip aiming?

[@im.deh11]

not exactly the best because of the ergonomic design, but i would recomend hsk pro 4k wireless for finggertip grip style due to its small size and weight

[@seonis]

no, try a low profile shape: Pulsar x2 mini Razer viper mini Finalmouse starlight small Gwolves htx WLmouse BeastX / mini

[@tinychamberz]

if your hands are big enough, YES! Dont let ppl that dont use fingertip tell you it isnt. My hands are 18x11 and its perfect.

[@seonis]

@@tinychamberz not a mouse built for fingertip. Sure you might have a few people on the extremes, but in the majority cases an ergo is just not suitable

[@tinychamberz]

@@seonis i used deathadder v3 pro, xlite v2, thorn, skoll mini. All fine. if you dont use the grip, dont tell people if it works or not.

[@정찬홍-z5z]

what is your mouse pad?

[@seonis]

LG YOUPIN Custom Glass Pad: metroglide.etsy.com/listing/1565550756

[@mdk--]

Are you in a custom os?

[@seonis]

I used scripts to cut down windows a bit

[@maximvladimirovich5261]

Сan you post your mouse settings in Valorant?

[@seonis]

0.09 3200dpi (45cm/360). Raw Input On. With a glass pad which makes micro adjustments very easy

[@maximvladimirovich5261]

Thank you@@seonis

[@ClarkoMVP]

Do u still use this?

[@seonis]

Yes

[@Met845]

this or x2v2 mini??

[@seonis]

If you finger tip get the x2

[@Met845]

@@seonis claw grip?

[@seonis]

@@Met845 they're both good for claw grip. I prefer the thorn tho

[@Met845]

@@seonis ok thank you

[@fwabble]

People do not understand, personal preferences aside, how good this mouse is, and are all licking the balls of Pulsar Xlite v£ eS - that's not a typo - (because of that screen, that Steelseries did fifteen years ago) I swore by the Xlite v2, Pulsar have IMO gotten greedy though now - like they ALL do, (OML Zowie). Until Lamzu start charging way OTT I will stick with them. Even the unboxing experience embarasses Zowie/Pulsar/EVERY ONE ELSE. My white Thorn cost £88 Delivered to my door in under 24 hours. If the Zowie ECX-CW was £90-100 I would say it's a very worthy ergo offering, when they tried to charge £180 and refused to FLAT PACK the GSR2 in TWENTY TWENTY FOUR oh man, thay need a slam dunk before I will look their way again. I am not easily impressed in todays mice/pad market, but the Thorn + QingSui 3 Pro, impresses me.

[@seonis]

Speak king🗣️

[@fwabble]

@@seonis I honestly don't understand that but thank you anyway 😂 - the coating on the Thorn is so shockingly underrated it's..... Weird.

[@nerdalert545]

You have child sized hands though. This review isn't helpful to the rest of us with medium or large hands.

[@seonis]

That is definitely true. A review on a mouse is never going to be 100% objective. That's why it's important to get information from multiple sources to make your buying decision.

[@TheMrSpectatorr]

@@seonisWhat is your hand size though? Thanks.