Lance "Un" Rivera: Drug Dealers Like Me Turned to Music Business After Edward Byrne Murder (Part 5)

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In this clip, Lance "Un" looks back on a tragic incident back in 1988 when a rookie NYC police officer name Edward Byrne was fatally shot in the head in Jamaica Queens and the ripple effects that it sparked in the drug game and the rap industry. Lance explains once George H.W. Bush was in office, he targeted the city's top drug dealers such as Supreme, which led to a mass exodus to out of state locations such as Baltimore, Washington D.C., North Carolina, etc. As the discussion continues, Lance details some of the questionable tactics that were used to apprehend drug dealers which resulted in many of them turning to the rap game to invest their money behind-the-scenes. Lastly, he details meeting Biggie's manager Jacob York before explaining the crucial advise that he shared with him about the music business.

[@Iamkentdavis]

Vlad, you should definitely interview Kedar Massenburg. His story is amazing and he is a New York legend who started many careers.

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Yessir same circle un Rivera and Kedar

[@pkc11d]

This is the clearest explanation of how the drug trade in the late 80s migrated south from NYC and how many of the drug dealers eventually got into the music industry.

[@elbowgang9715]

It's similar to the breakdown that Ice Cube gave on My Summer Vacation with the Crack game and gang shit.

[@sirjer73]

​@@elbowgang9715St. Louis Standup!!!

[@whiteInk-fm4tt]

From his Point Of View.Drug dealers have always transported drugs from state to state it's just a hustlers mentality to expand and look for a new market. Also Gangster have always been in the Music Industry since its inception.

[@anthonyfreeman1422]

In my fifty cent voice, "We're patiently waiting for the Jay-Z stabbing.."

[@michaelmccrey5017]

You said it all so beautifully 😂😂😂😂

[@bossgold9534]

He speaks on that in part 26 of the interview.

[@lp863fl8]

And yo man stab UN made you take the blame - NAS

[@Ra-sb2ln]

I been patiently waiting for when Jay Z got poked on … 😂

[@yasinjohnson4687]

Yes!

[@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach]

Vlad don’t realize when he said Daddy O he talking bout Daddy O from Stetsasonic

[@ericrowland3246]

That’s the benefit of growing up in NYC. You can grow up poor but rub shoulders with a millionaire/celebrity. Everyone from Robert Dinero and Al Pacino to Tupac and Biggie were all born and raised in NY. Especially back in the 70’s and 80s, you likely went to high school with a future celebrity. Put it like this: 50 Cent grew up maybe 20 minutes from Donald Trump’s childhood home. A lot of people know Jay-Z went to high school with Biggie and Busta but before that Jay went to another high school with rapper AZ.

[@Langston890]

Yeah, this is what a lot of people don't understand about our city. It's easy to have VISION here. It's infectious and it'll find you easily. You will see a LOT of different types of shit. Wealth ain't so geographically separate from you. It's a train ride or two away. From the projects to some of the most affluent zip codes in the country. This is why NYers have a reputation for being ambitious b/c we're exposed to more. Simple as that. It's easier not to get sucked into your little low-vibrational bubble (though ofc it still happens to a certain extent). But yeah, we're around WAY more $ than your average person.

[@UCUSmusic]

You from NY?... what did you do with the advantage?

[@queenofnyc5584]

@@UCUSmusic let my man’s cook. He could be a millionaire for all we know.

[@queenofnyc5584]

Jay z like 3 years older than biggie and they both high school drop outs so I’m trying to figure out when they went to school together jay always wannabe associated with big.

[@UCUSmusic]

@@queenofnyc5584 I mean... if he is there might be an advantage... i just don't see it.. 1.i ain't never heard anyone in NY tell an MJ story... 2.only rappers talk about big and pac... 3.i have a decent amount of patnas from the BX and ain't nobody ever mentioned seeing Tony Montana walking down the street.. NY is mad basic, the only people that think it's dope are people who never left.

[@mrrobbiejenks]

Un makes you want the whole interview.

[@davethomas332]

Exactly Not to many Interview on him

[@EffDinero8]

This is the most accurate account of this era from all of the interviews...

[@verticalintegration5222]

How would you know? You wasn’t there Niqqa Y’all believe anything

[@jamar95little24]

Edward Byrne's murder was the turning point for the drug game George bush got on t.v and said he he was declaring war on drugs next thing you know a lot individuals was going to prison for the rest of their lives

[@EffDinero8]

@@verticalintegration5222 Pussy I actually was!! Fuck'n BOZO!!! 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@largegod77]

I was there & it’s not exactly accurate… we was going OT b4 Edward Byrne got killed The TNT unit didn’t stop dudes from hustling it just made it more crazy …

[@magneticqubzian6902]

Same with bootleggers getting into music/boxing.......Paleskins were allowed to move that money into legitimate endeavors

[@vladtv]

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[@viralbuthow000]

Why I do this and full interview ain’t up?😊

[@TeezyHendrix4]

🧢 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@marquettegloves9907]

Lance: And that was around the time Jay-Z stabbed me in 1999. Vlad: We'll get to that later. Now fast forward to 1973...

[@mikegreen5502]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@eequalsmc2sqrd59]

😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😉

[@rayray5561]

🤦🏿‍♂️

[@cee_xx]

😂😂😂😂

[@davehoward8998]

Was 2pac there?😂😂😂😂

[@hellcatdogman3367]

TNT definitely had a impact on the streets of NYC when the rookie cop was killed. TNT was going crazy. Once they got the people who were involved, TNT kind of calmed down. I ain’t gonna lie, when Rudy Giuliani became mayor of NYC in 94, it was also crazy on the streets. Rudy announced that Quality Of Life Offensive program, it made me want to stop selling crack back then. I been through 3 Mayors when I was dealing drugs Ed Koch, David Dinkins they were a cake walk compared to what pressure Rudy put on the streets.

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

Yeah I heard Rudy was a beast, he's the first person I ever hear use the word racketeering

[@hellcatdogman3367]

@@ericbryant-dz8mj yep… it been a law on the books. Rudy was one of the 1st to enforce it. It targeted his own race, Italians.

[@hellcatdogman3367]

@@George-bq3gb facts

[@snifcompanyculturemediat.v7979]

This is some legendary content.

[@Henry.P]

TNT Tuesdays n Thursdays police sweep. They were taking pics of regular civilians, I remember being up in Washington Heights and saw flashes coming out of a Crown Vic. My cousin said they take pics of everyone on this block.

[@houseofclubs2437]

Yup... Terrible Tuesdays and Nervous Thursdays bruh....wild in the city

[@cochrankalan]

“It’s task force Tuesday the narcs is in the black car”

[@healthyman101]

His voice and accent reminds me of Jay-z

[@TheAirForceFly]

Vlad: Any question Un: Um hmm Um hmm

[@iamthakee]

Mhmm

[@phonefamoustv7930]

“Police were taking down drug dealers, it was a mess” 😂

[@seantimmons5955]

A great piece of history..

[@karateflix]

we alll know what the biggest clip of this interview will be, lmao.

[@gdc6153]

When Lance did the Lil Kim video

[@DPrime215]

Nobody: … Un: MHMM

[@R1ch714]

Mhmm

[@williamjohnson3656]

He’s right I remember going to Kedar house to sing for him and Daddy-O he had this rap group out of Cali at the time called Freestyle Fellowship. I remember jumping in cabs with Mos hanging out with Jacob fast forward Years later running back into Kedar As head of Motown in the Universal/MCA building

[@eldizzy6437]

There were a lot of NY drug dealers getting murdered in VA during that time.

[@aaronx8006]

Well someone from VA just got killed in Harlem..smh and nobody from VA at that time would dare come to nyc to try and get drugs …matter fact it happened in the Bronx look it up ..like 2 weeks ago

[@gdc6153]

Baltimore too

[@stockstock6805]

Walmart came to town and ran the locals out of their corners and the locals resented that huh😏😄

[@eldizzy6437]

@@stockstock6805 real shid. They were mostly being extorted and robbed. Losing their lives because they were snatching up chicks. All types of crazy shid.

[@WEE-pz8rt]

I'm from Newport news so I know that's facts

[@mark21484ify]

Facts about going in to towns with a new york mentality. Baltimore was going to war with new york boys in the late 80's early 90s

[@blacksheep1502]

Them Baltimore Boys was getting them New York Niggas the Fuck Outta there.

[@aaronx8006]

Baltimore dudes would’ve never lasted in Nyc tho ..period NYC dudes took over whole cities at that time

[@gdc6153]

​@@aaronx8006at first but then they started getting killed

[@aaronx8006]

@@gdc6153 some did and some didn’t .. point is nyc took over shit .. Baltimore nikkas was nowhere near nyc 🤣😂

[@blacksheep1502]

@@aaronx8006 everybody took over New York, the hell You talking about?🤔

[@1bannahpoam]

i love it.

[@DPrime215]

5:28 As an avid reader, I’m checking those books out. Hit Men & This Business of Music 📚. Salute 🫡

[@karateflix]

I heard Pharrell mention that book early 2000s and ran and found it asap. Literally around 2003. Its an industry classic. A lot of the stuff in their is out dated by now because there wasnt streaming and digital.. but the other stuff still stands.

[@soundwave803]

Reminds me of the Family Guy clip of Bryant Gumbel saying mhmm

[@JKevin1977]

I wonder if “The Business of Music “ book was that silver sparkling one?

[@reecedaclown414]

It’s crazy how him and jay got the same kinda speaking patterns when they explaining situations lol

[@AaronBrooks7]

Those uhh hmms are killing me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hdbfilmz7999]

TNT Tuesdays qnd Thursdays. They would park like 3 or 4 blocks up the street in a Van and watch the block, Send crackheads with marked money, etc. On rooftops everything. TnT was real 😂

[@thorntonwhite3813]

Word that’s exactly how I got my felony in Brooklyn the day they was readingOJ verdict in 1995 shut was real

[@hdbfilmz7999]

@Thornton White They got me too smh early in the morning

[@tonecorleone7592]

Or they would sent cute cop bitches to buy crack too. N if it wasn't direct sale they got u for steering. Whole time waiting in the pattywagon watching with the other dudes they bagged in the back

[@njguy4844]

Great synopsis of how drugs and gangs spread across the U.S.

[@whiteInk-fm4tt]

From his Point Of View.Drug dealers have always transported drugs from state to state it's just a hustlers mentality to expand and look for a new market. Also Gangster have always been in the Music Industry since its inception. Gangs have been spread across the US since the late 1800's.

[@KDvaughn]

This dude better not say too much 😂

[@august_3rd]

This is an ill history he's telling right here because he just showed how Dr. York was directly and indirectly responsible for some of the greatest New york rappers in the 90s that's crazy. Wow

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

He said nothing about Dr York stop it

[@stacksondeck515]

Lance has such a rich history of 90s rap aka the gold era. Everyone wanna know about the Hov stabbing….it ain’t that deep.

[@jusone201]

it is that deep if “everyone” wanna know. It’s apart of his story, a BIG part (no pun intended). Can’t blame everyone for waiting on it.

[@djlyvwyr]

I gotta figure out a way to get paid a dollar every time Vlad starts off a video with “Okay”. 🤔

[@DPrime215]

I heard one of the Ts in TNT stood for TK 💯

[@4HzOProductionz]

77th precinct is in Brooklyn Most Bronx precincts are 40's numbered

[@CheckItOutHOODREVIEWS]

57x's that's how many "mmm-hmmm" were heard.

[@JW-zc4sk]

"Mm hmm" 50 hundred times 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@jlorraine5335]

i can never figure out why people tell him so much. How do they know he is not some sort of informant for PD or the Feds

[@houseofclubs2437]

Tnt and they had spy team in the BX....them dudes use to be on us....crazy days bruh.....I survived!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bezzieb665]

Hes only really on here for one main question...did jigga stab you over charlie

[@ploesq.7990]

When’s he going to talk about why Jay was soo upset with him?

[@gmafia4049]

Does anyone remember him in The 5o clock in the morning Nonchalant Video 1995-96

[@goattime8947]

That’s Krazy Daddy O Dolph Mentor LLDOLPH🐬👑

[@BVO4524]

What did Un say to get Hov to poke him up

[@Curling_Rack]

Cam'ron - "Horse & Carriage"

[@jonsjooh3424]

"Yo, yo i pulled up at the hotel on my ish on blast; , told the vallet mf don't hit my jag, see he is a bell boy ninja so he can kiss my ace , show me my room ninja and get my bag" cam a savage for this one 😂😂😂 the intro of confession of fire is one of the best i ever heard , i lowkey miss the 90's rap album's intro and their interlude

[@thegraciousfundamentalists6146]

It was Hot as a Firecracker around that time...shizz!!!🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Trahern100]

I worked at car detailing near queens started being this costumers personal car detailer he put me on to all his friends they all had nice cars porch’s Escalades what ever was hot at the time I thought they sold drugs he ended up tell me they make designer t shirts and this was around 05-06 around the time ppl who weren’t legit were transforming to be legit

[@vtg1632]

he meant 47th precinct in hte bronx

[@thorntonwhite3813]

Word cause 77th is in Brooklyn Utica ave

[@krxwnvxk3432]

In other words they was shook, rightfully so though

[@Therealness8480]

77th pct is in Crown Hts Brooklyn

[@hustlemadec9985]

I think they intentionally skipped the stabbing because that should have been next after the last clip

[@entrepreneurcorner4146]

Is this the dude JAY-Z got into it with

[@thorntonwhite3813]

Definitely

[@JonezWick]

“MHMM” 😏

[@globalmogul]

sell a book Un

[@Eyegetdeep]

🎯🎯🎯

[@mceithdavis3462]

I’d wish I had the nack to walk up to people who are into gold exchange silver just anything like that and they tell me the in and outs of the trade I’d be sooo greatful…

[@mr.mr.4772]

Vlad’s like, note to self. Setup interview with Tommy Mickens.

[@Browneye475]

That's crazy...Tommy was my people

[@TheDebunker2050]

State creates special unit to combat drug invasion Mar 16, 1992 - An interstate drug strike force has been approved by Gov. ... more than 20 Baltimore drug murders have been linked to New York dealers

[@WEE-pz8rt]

He didn’t mention a lot of those N Y cats not making it back to Ny . Can’t make ur own rules in another man’s house

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

A lot of people did, Alpo did it in D.C

[@largegod77]

We was going OT way b4 that Un

[@thesupervisor3270]

“Plus yo mans stabbed Un and made you take the blame” 😆

[@charlieg4732]

lol

[@tmac7887]

TNT-Tuesdays N Thursdays

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

Tactical Narcotics Taskforce

[@charlieg4732]

On Tuesday's and Thursday's your better watch for the sweep them peoples gonna act an ass when get caught in the street - juvie

[@connectlogic]

same thing happens in uk ..people make money from crime and make music, they then have the money to push the music into the right djs and radios hands with money and back handers ...meanwhile more talented artists with not enough cash to make moves lose out ,,cash runs everything.

[@SonnyBoiP]

"ummm hmmm"

[@jameelbuggs5592]

Oh oo

[@2423yay]

Tuesday N Thursday

[@mikegreen5502]

THAT'S CRAZY NEVER SEEN A WIKIPEDIA PAGE WITH NO AGE LANCE DOING SOMETHING HERE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cameroaugustine4176]

So many memories flashing threw his head. He can barely speak lol

[@justanothercollector43]

36 mhms in n we still ain’t get to a reply

[@acedavis4369]

Everything he is saying is true!! Nas "it was written" documented all of that

[@leonolivier3859]

Um hm. Um hm. Um hm Um hm. Lance has a new name. Lance "Um Hm" Rivera! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@staircaseradio6284]

I’m just now seeing this clip .. I’m glad Vlad 🤣(had to)🤷🏽‍♂️.. but seriously.. do u know how many “innanets” argued with me in other comments, because they refused to believe or acknowledge the fact that NY hustlers we’re opening up shop “OT” (mainly in the south ) on the REGULAR.. ( yes some lives were lost in the process) but the courage of a NYer isn’t like many others.. it rarely happened the other way around ..maybe in the 60s.. but 80s and 90s going OT(outta town) was a THING for NY hustlers and Gangstas .. FACTS. Thank you for the confirmation.. hopefully some of the idiots that argued me down see this clip🤦🏾‍♂️😐

[@dadaxxx-bleu]

Ahuum ahuum ahuum😂😂😂😂😂

[@quanglover5362]

Wats crazy is jay stab biggie man but jay in biggie was cool huh

[@kevinmadison3025]

Here before fake TK Kirkland 😂😂

[@DPrime215]

💯

[@murphymurph7578]

Kedar was legit. We went to LIU together.

[@anwardorsey8770]

Edward burns needs a movie

[@BtrDaze]

Do it

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

He don’t need a movie

[@jerodtabb311]

​@@MrWARBUCKS24 😂😂😂😂 the Team Do Doe 💯💪And The Best Friends 💪💯🤞

[@shardstraws1]

@@MrWARBUCKS24 real rap he really don’t

[@tonymontez2358]

Alexa play kill jay z from 444 “u stabbed un over some records” we all know that’s what we waiting for 😂😂

[@juanitahines3252]

I enjoy these interviews but I can never figure out why people tell him so much stuff. How do they know he is not like an informant or something?

[@josemoneybag3429]

Me and the nigga lance took Kim and cease advance brought 10 bricks 🧱 4 pounds of weed ☘️ plants

[@charlieg4732]

Nigga said the SBI lol 😂

[@davidgaskins2589]

"Mmm hmmm"

[@YonCash]

Hmmm hmmm - UN 😂

[@aaroniic]

Iwuz…I was…Iwusss

[@TwizzNC]

Light skin big fendi

[@scottsimon769]

Last 🤬

[@DanielMing1993]

I know this brother got an Alpo story.

[@RickPorchiaMediaGroup]

He sounds like jay z. Am I trippin?

[@mackboi_tye2372]

He stabbed un over Charlie baltimore- killa

[@dabai281]

T.N.T WAS NO JOKES I USE TOO DRIVE THE 79TH&81TH precinct crazy I use too make the jump out boys go crazy

[@ujnnju]

No you didn’t.

[@thorntonwhite3813]

@@ujnnju 😂😂😂😂

[@MultiKishon]

Mhm

[@donnellcollins242]

Come on vald …

[@unc1589]

Yo I’m laughing. All these years I thought Un was a industry exec that got stabbed by Jay-Z. Like some cornball office dude that got tangled up with rappers. I can’t stop laughing.

[@roywilliams3524]

Mix drug and show money 💰 Biggs Burke on tour

[@ellzbodymore6987]

Come on un it didn’t happen in that order

[@death2you459]

I really want to watch this interview, but Un's stutter/stop/way of talking is hard to understand sometimes process.

[@jerodtabb311]

Den come back wen dey start talkin bout the stabbing 😂😂💯

[@onetime9678]

Imagine creating fiends, poisoning your community, people dying from the product you sell, then……..you brag about it in your music. - This is your boy Jay Z. Leon Cohen brainwashed u into believing his character. Black magic style

[@andremiller1566]

Imagine being born into that world and making your way out of it and idiots pretending you created that world.

[@onetime9678]

@@andremiller1566 Keep pretending the only option is to sell drugs and kill people because ur “ born in that world “.

[@queenofnyc5584]

@@andremiller1566 exactly dog eat dog world. Every man for their self these people don’t get it tho

[@APOLLOLEGACY]

Uh huh

[@user-ns7yx5zx9q]

My uncle beat him out his chains back in da day

[@brendoncaesar759]

He stab un over Charlie Baltimore lol