Lance "Un" Rivera on Lil Kim & Junior Mafia Leaving Him for Puffy after Biggie Died (Part 28)

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In this clip, Lance "Un" Rivera, looks back on Junior M.A.F.I.A.'s career in the music industry, immediately following Biggie's death. The music producer/film director explains why the group chose to leave him in lieu of signing with P. Diddy. As the conversation unfolds, Lance details Biggie's rollout plan for Junior M.A.F.I.A. and Lil Kim's solo career, before he passed. From there, he explains why he signed off of Lil Kim getting her own record label and executive producer credit for Lil Cease's debut LP.

[@willsealy2526]

Never heard from Un, only heard about him. Seems like a loyal and highly intelligent man! Shame we didn’t get to see what Big and him could have done

[@rahsunallah2825]

Brooklyn they don't make em like this no more!!!!

[@telldetruth9259]

Honestly, it feels like Biggie’s camp splinters after he dies. Seems like he was the one keeping a lot of people cool

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Common story. We see it with families all the time, unfortunately. When Big Momma or dad dies, everybody goes their seperate ways.

[@telldetruth9259]

Yeah, it’s an unfortunate regular thing in families. Sad how consistent it seems to be

[@davidsamuels9557]

These were all BIG's friends from Fulton Street who he put on. Chico Del Vec said that BIG did all of the work for most of the Junior M.A.F.I.A. members, spoon feeding them to the point that they didn't even have to swallow. When BIG was murdered it was like JM was orphaned.

[@apprentessjgooden2263]

​@@MichaelBrown-ti1un That's how it is with my family, and we're BIG! My thing is, I haven't lived in my hometown in 26 years and during that time I've lost at least 30 plus family members and around 45 friends and classmates, my father asked me to move back right before he passed away 😭 Now a few of the family have asked me the same thing, but I'm torn, I'm out here living my life but i miss my family, it's tough, and I'm seeing my family drift apart because the deaths have struck everybody, I've lost both of my parents since I've been moving around the country, two of my female cousins just lost their mom and dad within months, my cousin who I grew up with like my brother, just lost both of his parents, my sister father passed away April 26 2023, and all 5 of us are in our late 40s, sorry to run on but you post touched me brother and i had to testify, thanks ✌🏾

[@mollee4950]

“Keep the fam together God knows I tried, but shit ain't been the same since B.I. died” -lil Kim ‘Heavenly Father’

[@fuhyou3223]

Years ago on the Chronicles Of Junior MAFIA dvd, Cease said that after Biggie's funeral they didn't see Un anymore. They said he was out of sight out of mind. Later on in the year they started getting all these charges for Un's services so business wise I could see why they cut ties with Un.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

That’s crazy

[@telldetruth9259]

Damn I just brought that up

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Never saw that, but that's interesting. Yeah, in that case, I'd cut ties too. Biggie was their leader, their father figure, if you will. That's where Junior Mafia's loyalty was, not to Un.

[@davidsamuels9557]

Wow, I never heard about this. Two sides to every story.

[@SVGIN]

Fuck yeah I'll charge to of the bread winner gone....un don't rap. U gotta start seeing past rap now....its business...the bread winner gone...

[@ricanhavoc215]

Drink every time Un says "MmmHmm"

[@TheRealMickeyFactz]

Death

[@davon4470]

Tired of 👂 that 💩😂😭

[@j4sho748]

After I threw up I would have just waited for the whole series to come out

[@sharkkillag6380]

At least he's not there with the dumb a** awkward silence that's other dumb a** n***** be sitting there with the yeah/nawl answers.... At least a n***** trying to be interactive and relatible lol

[@BigCDS]

Bruh...

[@onetrackbeats4833]

RIP BIG 🙏🏽. You are missed

[@telldetruth9259]

A Cam and Biggie track would’ve been fire. Harlem & Brooklyn connect

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

There is one. Welcome To New York City

[@telldetruth9259]

Where

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

You should know where

[@telldetruth9259]

Ok lol

[@shanicepartee6916]

Yea

[@sums3080]

Rip biggie. Every damn song he spit on went hard af.. my favorite hip hop artist of all time man.

[@EddieisKrueger]

Same here!

[@DelilahKeller-kx5rq]

2pac voice you copy my style

[@EddieisKrueger]

@@DelilahKeller-kx5rq What's his style?! Dickeater?

[@ucuttmyballz2210]

U sound like my cuzzo he big and I'm PAC....but truthfully love both them dudes legacy but if I had no choice

[@DelilahKeller-kx5rq]

@@ucuttmyballz2210 right on 👍👍👍👍

[@ReyHugoTelevision614]

Basically Diddy helped to disrupt whatever was going on with Un after Big left, took whatever energy he could from Big's momentum and kept it moving

[@RememberTheTime09]

100% and the people that BIG broke were not all that loyal even Kim & Cease cause they started kissing up to Puff.

[@dmvconartists2542]

@@RememberTheTime09 not true .. dutch&spade we’re loyal which is why Cam got famous and they didn’t

[@gmafia4049]

"I rely on Bed Stuy to shut down if I Die"🗽🥃🍾🥂

[@elliot2177]

they did,too.

[@juliangibbs7018]

The funny things everyone went with the glamor and bambozall of puffy after big passed and 95%of them.are twisted financially today.

[@bxboro4662]

Un & Cam’s intro on Confessions of fire is still one of my favorite intros on a rap album

[@darrylgriffin828]

Also Charlie Baltimore's album Cold As Ice the intro 🔥

[@TheSstretch68]

TRUE STORY!!!!

[@PancakeDiaries]

@@darrylgriffin828 I had an advanced copy. Album actually NEVER dropped. Only bootlegs exist. Fun fact

[@1bannahpoam]

That and sde

[@klopl100]

Did Un go on to make a lot of money?

[@RudeReg]

Without BIG writing their lyrics those albums would flop except Lil Kim

[@telldetruth9259]

Fax

[@fragilediamond3203]

Cuz she was writing her own shit 4 albums after still platinum

[@Swimininmonet]

Big wrote her entire first album!

[@tharealest8190]

@@fragilediamond3203 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣…. NO she wasn’t 😑

[@TriplomatX]

idk if you heard Cease's album. Definitely an underrated banger. Before Notorious K.I.M.

[@pernellhaynesworth1212]

He should change his name to “Um Huh”🎉😂😂😂😂

[@buffalotroy2494]

Ahhh... My daily dose of "Un" Rivera... So refreshing!!👏🙌❤️✌️

[@jonsjooh3424]

😂😂😂

[@TheRealDeal1438]

Once Big died so did the Mafia. Big was trying to do the Mafia like Rza did WuTang.

[@righteousmasculine]

Yep except all of wu were lyrical assassins and those guys in the mafia were just average

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

​@@righteousmasculine Klepto had rhymes. Lil' Kim was the only one who had potential to blow. Everybody else was mid or just flat out wack. If Biggie lived, I think he would've signed and blew up Cam'ron and Charli Baltimore, who unlike most of Junior Mafia, had talent and star potential.

[@jasontoussaint1081]

Mr Bristol was nice too..r.i.p

[@righteousmasculine]

@@MichaelBrown-ti1un I liked klepto verse on. Need you tonight

[@tharealest8190]

@@MichaelBrown-ti1un klepto had BIGGIES rhymes

[@gmafia4049]

Either way The Empire was gonna crumble cause BIGGIE was the force and instrumental behind the talent

[@jsanders9975]

Naw..Mase kept that thing going for a while

[@bdawg5888]

So again this solidifies everything Uncle Gene has been sayin 💯

[@jumahbrady670]

Facts 💯

[@bthedonb3013]

Un too real.. You can tell he a real street dude/ business man

[@donnieloupo]

I don’t believe 1/2 this shit

[@DeYTviews]

@@donnieloupo 😂

[@priztucker]

Biggies plan to roll out Junior Mafia and it’s Artists was the first time I saw an Artist do that successfully.

[@ghostt488]

Because he was writing all the rhymes. He took the easy way out lol

[@priztucker]

@@ghostt488 That's inaccurate

[@deesee2051]

Vlad trying to tell this man about his life is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

[@jumahbrady670]

Facts 💯

[@vladtv]

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[@dholla444]

Can’t wait til his show comes out

[@selwynaddinallkallardtv]

It is not available?????

[@StacksSats]

Mmhmm!

[@adamcouto3100]

To me hearing this part of the interview lets me know Biggie was trying to make sure everyone ate not just him. 💯

[@jumahbrady670]

Facts 💯

[@seanyoung7286]

I think puff was mad cause big hid the fact he was writing for the mafia and wasn't making any money off them cause big knew puff was shady and would have cap them up just like he did big for his catalog puff was spying on big at quad studio the night pac got shot

[@bayleafcreativetv9627]

Sounds like Puff was out bidding Un at every turn

[@HS32153]

He out bid him for Mase

[@johndeere593]

All business

[@PPHDocumentaries]

So basically if Un had more funding, he could have been the next PDiddy and probably a billionaire by now. Cause many of the artist he could not get because of lack of finances turned ot to be big artist. It looks like the label never believed in him that much. They probabaly thought Biggie was the main reason Undeas entertainment was successful.

[@BRYxMONTANA]

This goes to show, the rap game for sure would’ve been different had Big lived, think abt the amount of people that would’ve signed under him. Even 50 cent took a meeting with Diddy out of respect for biggie.

[@leostoute1176]

Puffy got biggie killed imma stand on it

[@amonistrong1687]

Damn...too bad we never got the chance for the Brooklyn Mint gear. The first few years after Big died I used to see Lil Cease rockin the clothes a few times.

[@OhGibZ]

Vlad telling the story while Un is saying "un hun"

[@davidsamuels9557]

Apparently you were too busy rehearsing your standup comedy routine to hear Un speak at length about losing Lil' Kim and Junior M.A.F.I.A. to Puff, while trying to replenish his roster by signing Mase, Beanie Siegel and other hot Philly rappers.

[@xavierdelrio8641]

Junior mafia was lost without Big same way outlawz was lost with out Pac

[@F0eH4mm3R]

Yo shot out to my NY bredren, they say every letter in the word 'because'

[@kareemmanigault]

That’s so crazy to me how loyalty don’t mean nothing these days

[@AlexGarcia-pm3mf]

Right

[@figo007tv]

These days?? You mean ever

[@kareemmanigault]

@@figo007tvright

[@thesupervisor3270]

Never did. It’s just worse now

[@PickupArtist069]

Im waiting for the TK comment 👀👀

[@j4sho748]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@telldetruth9259]

So basically Un had a lot of people he couldn’t afford ?

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

Basically..Biggie was his way in the game as mogul but he passed so the industry wasn’t gone mess him

[@SVGIN]

Mmhmm...

[@tharealest8190]

@@Kingdizzleltdinc615 actually him working with biggie should’ve made it easier for him . He had his shot

[@VinceMediaTV]

A lot of people was trying to sign major figgaz back then. Wow learn something new every day.

[@chubbybaby1284]

Good part of the interview always wanted to know how he got Cam & Charli

[@raheimspeight751]

Mase introduced Cam to Biggie and Big was going to sign him. When Big died then Cam went to the video shoot and linked up with Un

[@davidsamuels9557]

Yeah the Biggie segments were so boring - who wants to hear insider details about the man many consider to be the greatest rapper of all time?

[@telldetruth9259]

I know in a doc Cease said Un disappeared on them months after Biggie died… hmm…

[@MuSick23]

Un could have, and should, and would have been a mogul if he'd had a fair shot after Big died.

[@yizzlekizzle2311]

He fucked with Jay and had to get stabbed...the rest is history. Its only now with the survival of Dame Dash we understand how ruthless Jay was and still is.

[@tharealest8190]

He had a fair shot , he wasn’t good enough

[@tonyoliver5537]

Jay-Z "stabbed" Lance "Un" Rivera at the Kit-Kat club over Charlie Baltimore trying to get at her right after Bigge died and Jay-Z and Biggie were friends and "Un" was Biggie's manager.

[@Twan1985]

I need to count how many times Un said "mmmhmm" 😂

[@badboy95ca]

annoying af

[@Twan1985]

​@@badboy95ca I know rite 😂

[@chevylife4608]

I thought he was Dr.Dre in the thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂

[@openyourown9784]

When and where is this series?

[@NOCDIB]

Every time Un is asked a question he looks like a kid that was sent to the pincipal's office.

[@chrissimeon9820]

Why can’t I find this one on the members only page?

[@dello3705]

part 27 and we finally getting to the meat.....the stab

[@jstepheny63]

Rest In Peace "BIGGIE"!! BK STAND UP!

[@ChicagoStyles23]

Lets be real, aint nobody was anticipating the Snakes and 6's albums, they weren't even real rappers lmao. Why Klepto wasn't TOP PRIORITY was beyond me, but even with BIG being alive, ain't no way half those albums we're coming out lmao, matta fact, only Kim and Cease we're gonna be rotating.

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Lyrical Wizardry and Oh My Lord were my joints. Klepto did his thing.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

It’s so weird that Biggie never put Klepto on anything else… he could actually rap lol

[@ChicagoStyles23]

@@ZYaKnoe249 for some reason, the big guy always feels threatened by someone else with talent. Same thing happened with Jay and beanie Sigel

[@telldetruth9259]

Is that Klepto on I Need You Tonight? If so he was nice

[@PharoahsKingdom]

@@telldetruth9259 Yes

[@davidjenkins1440]

Un isn't gonna give up all the goods.😂

[@jaykaynum5569]

It's called Ladies Night! That Charle Baltimore Ice album should've dropped 🔥

[@roywilliams3524]

I can see Un back in the day with the plug Can you move a hundred keys ? Umm humm 😂😂😂😂

[@kentayduhart785]

Kim became a whole different person 🧟

[@ZYaKnoe249]

I wonder if they planned to do a Commission album without Biggie or was that just solely a BIG album.

[@satoyhazel]

Commission was Charli Baltimore Cam’ron and Big

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

​@@satoyhazelCam wasn't going to be apart of the commission.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Doubt it. Biggie was the centerpiece/franchise player of The Commission. Without him, it's nothing. That's like if they did The Firm album without Nas. Would've made 0 sense. Plus, Jay-Z blew up by '98, so there was no incentive for him to do an album with Charli, Lil Cease and Diddy, all artists he was bigger than.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

bruh lookin like one of the California Raisins

[@TraphouseBoominOU]

Vlad gonna make this a 50 part piece

[@selwynaddinallkallardtv]

Where's the full video???????

[@SocaDonTV]

Let’s be real… No one wanted to hear Junior Mafia without Big (even though Lil’ Kim has a good solo career). Just like the Outlawz, no one wanted to hear them without Pac

[@ZYaKnoe249]

I rather a Outlawz album than a Mafia one 🤷🏾‍♂️. Atleast they wrote their own stuff

[@SocaDonTV]

@@ZYaKnoe249sure… Or that your obsessed with anything associated with Pac 😂… You’re a weird guy

[@Dondemarcoo7]

Nobody wanted to hear the Outlawz even with Tupac on the song😂

[@SocaDonTV]

@@Dondemarcoo7 😂😂 true that! 💯

[@telldetruth9259]

Is that why they have a platinum and gold album? Lol

[@BIG-7777]

It was a wrap cause biggie pen 🖊 was gone.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

NGL, I think Kim regardless would’ve been the only person from the MAFIA to blow. I don’t see any of them other dudes including Cease amounting to anything regardless. Maybe a dope single or 2 but I don’t think the interest was there

[@righteousmasculine]

Cease had potential tho he proved that on lil Kim crush on you

[@ZYaKnoe249]

He’s a sideman, also those are Biggie’z rhymes. He’s the connecting piece

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Klepto was actually nice on the mic. Aside from Kim, he's the only one that stood out to me from that crew. Ur right tho, everybody else was basically glorified weed carriers. If Biggie lived, wrote their rhymes, picked their beats, and executive produced their projects -- they may have had a shot.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

I think they have good singles but I don’t see their albums doing well. Kim had the advantage of sex appeal and the best flow of the bunch

[@davidsamuels9557]

Cease would have been a Gold artist if BIG had lived. BIG most likely would have jumped on a song to give him a boost. Un and BIG proved they could break artists with JM and Kim. Crush On You was supposed to the first single off Cease's album but he hated it. He wanted a more street oriented track. So BIG put the song on Kim's album as another way to promote Cease.

[@s.k4471]

28 parts is crazy. Not watching any just thought I voice my opinion.

[@Visiondrivenllc]

Vlad literally asks black people to talk bad about other people for money. Crazy because they don't own the property.

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

What's your point?

[@PlatPodMediaCEOSean]

Un looks like Crank Lucas older brother lol

[@jahbless1]

I give up on these clips I'll wait til the full is out. Getting ridiculous

[@skorwolf2719]

Uns pretty sharp on the mind

[@Kelly_Silverman]

I assume they aren't going to talk about the Jay Z stabbing? Or is that going to be in part 42? 🤔

[@jimmerekendricks1351]

He paid him off NDA!

[@tyreesneed]

part 173

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

No one cares about the stabbing. People get stabbed everyday, B.

[@meyjr87]

Puff iced Un out!!!

[@peterthomson6161]

They didn't fund you the right way? If you're a record company you sign and fund the artists. After going through artist development and creating some records. Then you market to the distributor or do a distribution deal with a major.

[@tyreesneed]

yea plus he talkin about him and his fam was kingpins so they should have had plenty of money to fund everything themselves. kingpin my azz

[@lescw3293]

Salute everyone

[@semajmurphy8969]

That's how he got his nickname "un-huh"

[@gmafia4049]

Yeah at the same time Biggie said himself not too long before he passed He can't make them write so he only tooked in the hungry members which was Lil' Kim and he had Cease Album in the making. Cease perform a verse from the Album on the Radio during Biggies Last Interview. Also if things are giving to you on a silver platter don't always aspect it to be given to you like that. He didn't even mention Junior MAFIA on Life After Death.

[@james441]

Big interlude is basically that

[@kingsports1113]

​@@james441 biggie was talking about the real junior Mafia before the fame 😂😂😂 not those rappers junior Mafia

[@james441]

@@kingsports1113 stay on topic

[@kingsports1113]

​​@@james441 i am asshole go study your history

[@dmvconartists2542]

4:25 finally glad Major figgas and Dutch & spade finally getting a mention on VLAD. Seems like glad is mad that Gilly wrote for cash money😂 Major figgas was the shit

[@purplestate]

Flip it “UN” ya

[@lincolnben3720]

Un sweating bullets that that Frank Lucas feel good.

[@youngair24]

It seemed like no one saw Un as a serious player. Diddy never seemed to respect him, Craig Kalman didnt want to work with him anymore and the mafia split

[@dulo253]

Shut up Vlad, Geeeeeeezuz!!! Let them tell the story not you!

[@BlueBud-dp5ik]

When you living that life, your going to go with the money. I'm not trying to school nobody, but you should know how the game is played. The dirtyest gets the most respect!!! That's what some vato from Park Western Loma , San Pedro, C.A. Told me. Smiley R.I.P

[@olschoolTonyCarter]

I always wanted a Snakes album smh. Never got it Trife and Larceny was dope

[@leonshambry7682]

Who's interviewin who here?

[@williamgreen1947]

I like UN I can tell his real deal

[@hoodstar1234]

Yo strung niggas along for 28 clips and have not talked about that Jay z stabbing YET! CRAZY

[@harlemromeo3397]

puff wanted him in position after big death cuz he know the relationship wit him and biggie but junior mafia was playing double dutch wit him he started sign other artist they all stay with puff

[@PickupArtist069]

Why Kim wasn’t signed to Bad Boy

[@charismaticweirdo]

She was signed to Biggie before he died

[@stacyr4768]

Sounds like a trick question

[@BernardJames-xw7jk]

She had Queen Bee records plus they didnt want a Bad Boy contract just management

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

She was probably under contract. She was already a signed artist.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

She was already signed to Atlantic. Plus, Biggie was getting jerked at Bad Boy like everybody else. There's a reason he didn't sign his artists under Puffy's label, because the money was kinda funny, if u know what I mean.

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

They all went with puffy thats a fact

[@Chopping-it-up]

Lance um Rivera😂

[@abdurahmanurama8833]

Another living legend

[@telldetruth9259]

A Jay Z victim

[@larryconnerjr1835]

Vlad is copying Art of Dialogue interviewing all the people around Tupac and biggie and that whole time period

[@DydellRay]

Couldn't keep Junior Mafia Going Cause Big was gone. He was the motor on that group

[@blachubear]

I wonder what Big Gene Deal is thinking about?

[@misterdavis9078]

Klepto was underrated

[@iceburgslim2000]

Dam puff did the jayz move first lol everybody went w Jay while leaving dame dash dry getting rocafella..

[@elnegro4041]

Back up TK

[@raheemingram8341]

Damn..... Diddy capitalized on that and ran it in the Dirt. After Big died it was every man for themself .

[@mcchoirboy]

Lance looks more and more annoyed with vlad as the interview digresses

[@StacksSats]

Children Of The Corn

[@sharkkillag6380]

Let's call it like it is..... The Notorious BIG artists were done when he died. Just like the Outlaws were done when Tupac died... Is simple as that... When Lionel Richie left the Commodores, it was a wrap.... The Jacksons don't exist without Michael...some things are just a wrap

[@datniggaeazye.5968]

outside of Lil Kim ofc

[@ZYaKnoe249]

Outlawz had more potential IMO. If Bleek can get a few albums. The Mafia could

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

The Outlawz had no potential. *At All* . Fatal was lyrically talented but wouldn't have made it far.

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

You telling the cold truth.

[@telldetruth9259]

@Kancerus, literally no one in Mafia wrote. They were flops. Kim succeed with sexual appeal. Outlawz were actual good rappers who wrote

[@lamontwilliams4172]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@raflafrentzz6156]

Damn

[@jackiegreen1692]

Without Biggie the shit wont work just like Pac & the outlaws .

[@91Definite]

It’s no brainer that after Biggie died so did Junior Mafia just like Pac and Da Outlawz, Big Pun and Terror Squad. But with TS it was a sad case cause Cuban and Fat Joe had beef for 20 something years. And it seems like nobody from OG Terror Squad backed him up about Fat Joe. And Fat Joe everybody look at as a legend but don’t know that Cuban, Seis and spun help sharpen his Pen 🖊💯

[@CharlesDee87]

Go ahead and initiate it Vlad…. Speaking of Beanie Sigel …. You and Jay z

[@donfigure9142]

BIG wrote for all of them....he tragically died and thats why his plan discontinued