TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE?: Turin DF83 Review

[@jonathanshia32]

Lance casually hand drumming a 3:2 polyrhythm in a coffee video is what I live for 😂

[@themariokartlick]

I am convinced these videos are just a mechanism for him showing off all of his other random talents

[@Taima_ow]

Dude what about when he just dropped the beatbox wtf

[@robwhitmore3040]

Is there anything he can't do?

[@ardeleanalex6918]

Man, the studio, the filming quality and even the shirt, how Could you not love this channel?

[@normrubio]

The attitude seems forced and not genuine.

[@ardeleanalex6918]

@@normrubio well, after some time you come to the conclusion that that’s his personality. And I love it! To each his own

[@Kiaulen]

Also love the shirt!

[@GreenFlamingo]

@@normrubio for whatever it’s worth I’ve watched Lances videos for awhile and interacted with him several times in DMs and Discord video chats and he is who he is his through and through. I get not everyone’s communication style is for everyone, but everything I know about Lance is genuine.

[@normrubio]

@@GreenFlamingo k

[@chromeridazT]

Came for an espresso grinder, stayed for drums und singing skills. The man who has it all

[@LanceHedrick]

heck yeah! Thanks for watching!

[@everside38]

Still can’t get over how nice the portakeepers look, really makes the whole set pop!

[@error.418]

The weapons rack

[@davidlyons6235]

This channel is entertaining and enjoyable. A nice relatable content creator who provides digestible information while being entertaining.

[@whatsongiev]

Lance is everything I like about Americans in the way that James is everything I like about the British

[@ThePlayahans]

Lance you are really becoming one of my favourite coffee channels.. also: I am so looking forward to a potential review of that lever machine in the background 🙏🏻

[@joshuacarr1777]

I literally just ordered this 3 days ago with the SSD burs, and your review got me hyped now! Thank you for the great breakdown of it!

[@philindeblanc]

That singing before the espresso taste was soooo nice!

[@TheSignseeker]

Just ordered the DF83 on December 31st, after hours of agony trying to decide which grinder to buy. So happy to see your review today.

[@nolanscott9870]

After using the Sette 270, Niche, and DF64 with SSP MP and SSP Cast, I finally feel like I’ve landed on what I’ve been looking for with the DF83 with SSP HU. I love modern fruity and floral coffee, but I still want my espresso to be sweet with good body and a lingering aftertaste. Most of the best espresso I have ever tasted has been from the Mahlkonig Peak and to a lesser extent the Mythos grinders at nice coffee shops. I wish I could have those 80mm lab sweet burrs from the Peak in a reasonable single dosing form factor at home, but I finally feel like I am in the same ballpark with this setup. I felt reasonably happy with my modified DF64 and the SSP Cast burrs, but they seemed to be much more fickle with different coffees and occasional astringency. I’m excited to see what SSP can do with an 83mm lab sweet style burr.

[@pvtghost24]

Do you have an update to this?

[@nolanscott9870]

@@pvtghost24 hey! I’m happy to update. I still feel very positive about the 83mm SSP HU. Ultimately, I wasn’t in love with the DF83 platform itself. The static on v1 was mildly frustrating and I don’t like the workflow of the bellows. I sold it and decided to try the Sculptor 78s and 078 which I haven’t received yet. In the meantime I’ve been using a Pietro with pro burrs and a hyper aligned Vario with Ditting steel burrs. I really like the Pietro for turbo shots and filter. The Vario is solid, but I hate the form factor and grind settings. Right now, I do miss the DF83 and I wonder if I ever would have got rid of it if I had the v2.

[@cmcguire7901]

I ordered my df83 a week ago after seeing other reviews and this review made me extra certain I made the right choice! I’m upgrading from a hand grinder and I fall into the category of drinking traditional and modern espresso types as well as pourover so this really was the best option for me.

[@Conservator.]

Wow, that’s going to be quite a change. Please let us know your experience, I’d love to hear it.

[@cmcguire7901]

@@Conservator. I got it yesterday and so far the espresso has been delicious. The pourover I made hasn’t been too different from a handgrinder, but I think there were many fines so I’ll try again after removing the declumper

[@Conservator.]

@@cmcguire7901Thanks!

[@willmitchell8500]

@@cmcguire7901 what are your thoughts now?

[@cmcguire7901]

@@willmitchell8500 I still haven’t been able to tweak the declumper since I’ve been traveling and didn’t have the correct screwdriver but the espresso made from it is quite good and mostly on par with what I get at 3rd wave cafes even though my machine is lower end.

[@0whitestone]

I love how most other coffee youtubers edit out the slurps, and you specifically edit it to include all of them as quickly as possible 🤣

[@ceeceemac9072]

Great singing voice, Lance! You are always fun and informative. Thanks for this great video.

[@ericlai1160]

Just got my hands on one today. They made some pretty good adjustment/update for version 2!!!

[@christophermacier]

Sold! I have been on the fence for a while and was recommended this grinder by someone. Your video sold it to me. Thank you

[@LanceHedrick]

love it! Hope you enjoy it!

[@smecik1]

I like coffee related content but I still watch it for you doing music 🥰 I wasn’t disappointed

[@mcanix]

Loved the little Jack Johnson interlude! I'm very tempted by this grinder but I have yet to see one of these that I think looks more aesthetically pleasing than the Niche Zero

[@linghu7]

The chute taper is a real issue. I had the declumper completely clogged up once. Nothing coming out and grinder still goes wild causing serious clogged up with ultra fine grinds blocking every exit. A pain to clean up. Also the inner chute might start pointing towards right due to the build up at exit. It will end up colliding with outer chute cover making it impossible to take apart. I broke my inner chute when doing this disassembly.

[@felipegarcia05189]

The cool thing about this channel is that it is genuine and funny

[@matthewthode3203]

Just was looking at this grinder vs the niche then this drops on cue. You truly are the king of kings

[@KanielD]

These videos keep getting better & better. I really enjoy the pacing, to the point, yet still entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work!

[@iebooo0]

I love your reviews man!

[@erikroisland5016]

New V2 on the way in April with antistatic and new declumper.

[@imstigma]

Thanks for finally making this video! So happy having upgraded it from an SD40 and Sette 30 (though I still want to compare the Sette with the DF83). Fully agree with your comments about it straddling the divide between a conical and flat profile. It fits my preference perfectly for that reason as I generally prefer milk drinks as well. So happy with it but also wish it used a DC motor which would have allowed for the additional of variable speed. Fun fact - its "20" grind setting is in the wrong position and is actually centered on the 19 mark on the current stickers.

[@user-do5hd7zb4x]

Dear Lance sorry to have been so scathing this morning over your mist the coffee dissertation. In actuality it was very excellant. It was on a par with Yale, Princeton, Harvard. I can't drink coffee any more. Oh I may relapse but I really should not. Your dissertation was top notch. I'm just upset because I can't have coffee any more. I will live vicariously through you fastenating vidios. Keep up the good work. I found it intriguing!

[@kylelockhart7066]

I love you busted out some good old Jack Johnson! takes me back to high school. Your voice is on point.

[@NativeNewYorker66]

You finally hit the nail on the head! "ESPRESSO YOURSELF THE MUSICAL, ON BROADWAY-STARRING LANCE HEDRICK" The set design will be pretty amazing...Gigantic grinders, E61's, tampers, portafilers, scales, V60's, WDT's, beans, etc... 🙂

[@richy2496]

You are a good singer. Good voice and intonation. Better than a few artist I've worked with.

[@error404BrainNotFound]

As someone that is stuck between traditional and modern espresso, I absolutely love my 74mm HU burrs in the atom 75. They had a lot more clarity than the stock burrs but were not as sharp and acidic as the 64mm brew burrs.

[@lpnew3]

Good to know. I currently have the SSP 64MP and find then to sharp and acid focussed. Maybe I take a look into some 75 mm grinders.

[@nachoote260]

Been a Sub for a while now, and I gotta say your video quality has improved dramatically! Congrats!

[@FinleyJonas]

Great review! I’ve been using a Ceado E37SD with SSP HU burrs for the past year and despite having multiple other grinders these burrs are still my main go to.

[@zeropuckprep]

Thanks for the good news. I finally ordered a DF83 with SSPs from espresso outlet after seeing Kenneth with a loaner as well for the first time ever my wife requested a big flat after seeing me struggle with the Kopi Deva

[@bakeblaker01]

Your grinder reviews are alway better than expected. And I always expect them to be good.

[@TheGroundedCoffee]

Lol, I just noticed a little Sculptor easter egg in that vid. Thank you for doing an ungodly amount of work to bring these reviews to us, Lance.

[@agkile]

Thank you for doing these review. They are both entertaining and educational.

[@lothar1080]

The snapping to get the bellows lid on was hilarious!

[@bowieknife]

Happy 2023 Lance! Great review and insight. Might consider this now because I'm one of those people who are in between modern or more traditional shots. Good luck with the new year!

[@thomasroberts6008]

Interesting and quite a diversion from the Alternate Brewing assessment on cup profile as he described it as high clarity with a little texture, as opposed to full body and texture here

[@LanceHedrick]

Yeah I disagree with high clarity.

[@sabolinda5254]

Hands down, the best coffee channel on YT !

[@grantwilliams630]

Not only did i learn some things about a grinder in this video, but i learned a very very specific new vocab word

[@Coffeenerdtools]

I’ve stalled the grinder several times while seasoning, for the same reason you mentioned. Quite a frustrating little flaw

[@arthuryan4160]

Great content as always dude, nothing starts my day better than watching your video while sipping my americano

[@Rolaids649]

Gotta love the fun you bring to these reviews🤪 I did enough KZbin to feel the pain about the hard work versus the money. Just wanted to say thanks and I do appreciate the gift you give to the community!!!

[@Conservator.]

Hi, You’ve shown me a new feature that’s not available to me (on my iPhone in the Netherlands). I can send SuperChats on live streams but not on normal videos (yet?). How did you send this SuperChat?

[@Rolaids649]

@@Conservator. On my KZbin app on my Android phone below the video there is a little icon for super chats that looks like a heart.

[@damianhbk1]

Thank you Sir! This made my decision in my purchase for the end game grinder! Agreed, why get two grinders when you can just switch out the burrs! Will be upgrading my BBE to the BDB paired with this sexy beast! Let's make some delicious coffee! ☕ Cheers!

[@eliiiiiijah]

Really good cinematography in the intro Lance, keep it up!

[@TheDennzio]

a plastic dosing cup? Yes to the singing...I whipped out my Martin and accompanied you...we rock!

[@jonathanleclerc272]

I've been watching your videos since day 1 and never realised i wasn't subscribed. Love how you integrate singing into your videos. You remind me of Jack Black. You are the Jack Black of coffee!

[@davidrogala7597]

when you replaced that wooden cap a.k.a. flying cymbal... lol super vid man, cheers! 👊

[@blutcherama]

One of your best Lance. Thank you for your hard work.

[@nicid54]

How often can you say that you heard an in-depth product review and a karaoke set in one go? Awesome review--I'm sold!

[@roadstories007]

It would be fun to have an afternoon chillin with this guy. Love your personality

[@mir.9805]

Your production quality is immaculate👌

[@porsche911GT3RS40]

Your intros are insane, I love them!

[@jrequejo1]

Awesome video Lance. Informative, entertaining and funny. Excellent work, thanks a lot for sharing this with us.

[@iwouldpayattention]

Thanks for the vid. Please review that Timemore Sculptor teasing us in the background. About to impulse buy it and would appreciate your perspective 😬

[@127er]

Awesome content as always! And so good to see, that it scales up and is evolving over time in quality. Stoked on future videos! Is there a review of the Arco Grinder planned?

[@NickWebster]

That's a great Jack Johnson song. I used to have it and Breakdown as my alarm clock sound which didn't inspire me to get out of bed haha

[@jons3808]

Great review, Lance! Thanks for all the time you put in to help us coffee nerds sort out our coffee game! I have been considering a Niche Zero, but it seems the DF83 might be a better way to go. Although you did say this is the grinder you would buy under $1,000, you didn't specifically mention the Niche so I'm curious what your thoughts are between the two.

[@GreenFlamingo]

Lance prefers flat burrs if I remember - but a few years ago he recommended the niche to me for under $1,000. My guess is he would support the Turin over the niche. I do have the niche and love it, but I’m only using it for espresso.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I think they're both around the same price point with stock burrs (depending on location). But I had DF83 (unseasoned) and a Niche Zero (seasoned burrs) and found the taste profile was actually pretty similar, a tad less body but more flavour clarity on the DF83, but shots were a lot smoother and more enjoyable on the DF83, both were easy to dial in and get good results, but DF83 was better. Workflow and accessories / grind noise, I think the Niche Wins there still, but DF83 isn't too bad, it's louder but also much much faster. Also waaaay heavier. I wonder if they just put in some extra weight in there to make it seem higher end :D It's heavier than a Weber Key I believe!

[@jons3808]

@@BensCoffeeRants Thank you for sharing your thoughts about your experience with both grinders. It’s a tough decision but I feel there will be more potential burr options with the DS83, which could tip the scales for me.

[@cheekster777]

Happy New Year Lance, wishing you a wonderful 2023.

[@firmbutton6485]

Why are chutes plastic for a start? Earthed metal will help equalise grounds static surely?

[@ziggyggs3468]

I bought a C38 because I needed a decent grinder to use while I did my research on what I was going to get because I make espresso 7 days a week for me and my wife, but sometimes I want to enjoy a pourover. I've considered getting an Ode for that but it felt silly...so I was considering the Niche but it seems nigh impossible to get one to the US in any reasonable time, and this is the same price. Thanks for making my mind up for me, once again, Lance

[@larrylam8131]

Awesome review as always! Thanks Lance! Could you also review DF64P/E?

[@sunnycharacter]

I got a bit lost in the burr talk…in comes Jack Johnson 💙 Such a nice impression Lance!

[@tt11qj]

Love the videos, Lance! Keep it up

[@gregorio5543]

You sold me on the DF83. I was looking to upgrade the Niche Zero to get more clarity and while I prefer traditional style espresso, i want a grinder that can make good modern espresso too

[@GeelongVic7140]

Ahhh, Lance, finally, you have a very interesting lever tidbit in the background, when is that video report coming? So we should see you really pulling a shot, but paired with what grinder? Ahh, more mysteries, it seems, awaiting us.

[@EMOshashou]

How does this compare to lagom p64?

[@mikeydoesit]

It’s my resolution to spend more of my life with you in 2023.

[@the.real.bogdan]

Awesome review as always! If the whole coffee thing doesn't work out 😂😂😂 you can have a great career as a singer When can we expect a review of that cool lever machine in the background?

[@didykongrace]

Lance : What do you want to do with those blacks ? Lance's video editor : Lift them

[@julianalindquist8435]

Thank you for the entertaining and informative video!

[@BD-ou2ke]

Another great video mate. Thanks for the work

[@tzhaki2354]

Could you do a review on the specilita? I've seen many reviews but none of them discuss details like burr geometry, retention, etc as well as yours.

[@flrsilvestre]

You got a pretty nice singing voice man, what a great song as well!

[@MrJSenf]

had to scroll too far for this comment. Jack Johnson Banana Pancakes is the song I think

[@ptweiler77]

I've had no clogging problems. Joe @ Espresso Outlet said it can happen if you get grounds too close to the chute. I've also had no problems with the declumper.

[@jules5350]

Awesome review, love your channel!!!❤

[@coocooforcoffee4248]

Enjoyed this review bro, love your style 🫡 multitalented😆

[@alm0ndighs]

Always enjoy your reviews, thanks for this informative review. It helps me alot in deciding what i truly want. ba dam tissss

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I thought the declumper was good, at least on mine it seems alright, doesn't seem like it holds back much coffee, and using the bellows doesn't get out as much 'extra' stuff as the with the DF64. It IS an updated Declumper design, similar to the latest DF64 v4 but a little different for some reason. On my DF83 the grounds come out in a nice smooth non clumpy stream, no RDT necessary. I haven't opened it to see if there's anything in the chute or not. Probably could just look up there. I think in most grinders it will accumulate in the crevices of the chute. I've heard some people had issues with clogging up / stalling when seasoning, or using the hopper to grind a lot at once. Mine hasn't ever clogged and I accidentally ground way too fine the first few times I used it. But I am doing generally 16 - 18g single doses. Funny, I used to drive people nuts knocking on things / playing drums too.

[@merlabyss]

Hey, Lance! Thank you for the another amazing review! Will be DF83 a noticeable upgrade in terms of taste over sette 270 in espresso and milk based drinks what is your opinion?

[@donstellios]

Brilliant video as always. Do I see the new Timemore Sculptur at 19:21? Hoping theres a review coming at some point!

[@jessicacabral-gillingham1928]

great content as always man! love it!

[@jamesprecious1035]

Hola! Was this Lance Johnson or Jack Hedrick? What a great review. Loving watching your channel grow. You bring great flavour to the coffee world. Thinking this might be my next grinder so thanks from Canada. Keep it up Mister and you'll not need that other gig.

[@greenhometours]

DLC Expresso Burrs would be great to compare. I would watch the 83mm burr comparison. Thanks you for your great videos!

[@ColdCoffeePhotography]

Would love to see you re-visit the df64 and the burrs available as to whether its worth upgrading them

[@joel3068]

CAn you review the Df64V !

[@davidlyons6235]

If a Kinu or Commandante can achieve a high quality grind I'd probably still buy one of them instead if I could afford one of these babies. As grinders go the price of a quality hand grinder is still a dastardly expense though. Still love watching videos on these high end grinders.

[@tomy2988]

Lance, you are a rock legend

[@RyanSmith-xt7nx]

My dude with the 3 against 2 polyrhythm 😂 9:39 - Lance do you play an instrument?

[@KareezyG]

keep being you brother. you are awesome.

[@alexmirkin]

Great content! Just a quick note about the video though - the blacks are too elevated and tip of the shelf on the upper side of the frame is really distracting.

[@JoeyTen]

There's so much percussion remix potential in this video. I wish I had the skills to do it 😆

[@error.418]

Ayyy, I see that Pietro flat burr hand grinder in the background, looking forward to your take on it since us mere mortals won't get to touch one until, what, February?

[@konradhk00]

Thanks for your contributions to our coffee experience

[@Kohinootoko]

Nice, using the filter 2.2 prototype basket as a doser!

[@jeremyng9207]

how does this compare with Lagom P64?

[@teodorgheorghe8881]

Df83 or Kinu, which is better for espresso?

[@JonPeterson]

Thanks for the trigger warning! I have misophonia. Great video! I have been excited to hear about the DF83

[@philiphand9539]

Love you Lance! You're getting better and better with each and every video. So spot on with your assessments on all aspects of the equipment - with relation to cup quality, etc. Enjoy your goofiness and want to acknowledge how talented you are. Looking forward to your next videos. Well Done!

[@hsienfushih]

Lance is a top notch on coffee video as James H!