Land Rover Discovery LR4 & Defender Off-Road Test | 40 Years Overland Storytelling @4xoverland

[@rmnwrkcnt]

The pinnacle of auto journalism, Andrew. I bought an LR4 after watching this series 5 years ago. And as you said in your long-term review, it is indeed the best all-around 4x4

[@zeroparity]

Absolutely. I blame Andrew for the fact that I now own two, each on a different continent!

[@adpmol]

same... sad we sold it for the new RR to be honest. But we needed to be tax compliant.

[@keith6360]

Andrew, please make videos like this again. More technical terrains if possible. I understand the builds and that you have to review new products but most of us cannot afford changing our set ups every year.

[@CalSota]

Peak ASPW, this film was by far Andrew’s best work, informative and entertaining.

[@GCTO239]

I really, really enjoyed this video. Please do these edited flashbacks regularly. See you offroad seriously in such a stunning environment was great. Wonderful people in Lesotho. Thanks, Andrew! P.S.: Roland seems to be a great dude. Letting him go tells you everything you need to know about Land Rover as a company.

[@wilder_adventures]

Oh yes! I love my Discovery 4. Best Land Rover ever built.

[@marka6591]

D4: The best 4x4xFar

[@daviddenley3512]

This is my favourite Drivers review of the Discovery 4 by far, it is also quite possibly the best Sales Video ever produced as well. Everything put together however is absolutely stunning and if you're wanting an off road vehicle I think the Discovery 4 is ideal.

[@craigdouglasmartens7037]

Well done, Sir! You have certainly opened up the neural pathways again! As a huge Landcruiser, Landrover Series and Defender, Discovery 1 and Jeep TJ and CJ fan you've taught me something here. I believe all my series and 110 Defender Landies would have done this as well as my diminutive Jimny. I am seriously impressed with the underlying capabilities of the LR4. It just goes to show how preconception can be so wrong. Oh, and, the amazing Mercedes Geländewagen, now we're talking! Thank you for your e excellent cinematography and content that touches the heart of someone who grew up in a Natal Parks Board family in the Bush driving Jeep CJ 2a's, landies and Landcruiser FJ45's offroad from a young age. I love your work and your authenticity. Bayete!

[@Stura_tv]

Disco 4 still one of the best cars I have ever owned for overlanding and the occasional 4x4 route, but in game parks for me it was just the bees knees, great on sand roads, great to look out the windows and so comfy.

[@Garymt123]

I just love my Land Rover Discovery 3 TDV6, 2005 model. I still off-road on very challenging trails here in South Africa and even with 360,000 km on the clock, it still can go anywhere relatively easily. I am only now needing to change the injectors for the first time. It is expensive, but this vehicle is like a family member, so we'll worth it. I know when I drive this vehicle, my family is safe and secure. When I show clients farms that I sell, they cannot believe how capable it is and how comfortable it is over rough terrain. It also simply looks good. My 24 year old landy is still my daily runner. If you look after this vehicle, you will enjoy hundreds of hours of total bliss.

[@realguy268]

I have an lr3 and I love it. I’ve watched the original versions of this about 10 times and was more than happy to watch it again. I might switch to an lr4 eventually.

[@davidseanatkinson]

Great episode. I used to have an LR3 in America and now am enjoying my 2004 Defender 110. Love your stuff!

[@marcoabrahams2364]

LR4 Best Car by far, In the process of purchasing a 2013 V8. Sold by SDV6 for a Ranger Rover Sport 2017. Sold it after a year lots of Luxury but a LR4 for the Money, Power, Comfort and Space compared to others of the same year and newer its just awesome. I might be bias here because they say if you drove a LR its hard to but ass in any other car

[@jacquesm7678]

Fantastic clip. Am on my second LR4 and I have to say it gives anyone the confidence to leave a tarred road and venture onto gravel!

[@dumanimjo609]

Did the 1st have have "catastrophic engine failure"?

[@jacquesm7678]

@@dumanimjo609 Hahaha just upgraded

[@davel4471]

Please that you posted this. Of all your videos over the years, the LR4 Baboons series are the ones I have revisited the most times. Your tent packing away didn’t seem as much a challenge in this version 😉 congratulations on your career. WA6028

[@frederikarmbrust]

If you maintain a Disco properly, including the electronics, they are the best car for anybody with a big family who wants to go anywhere, wants to tow anything, etc.I love my Disco 4 2015, and I invested in TuffAnts 18" wheels. I always counter Andrew's comment on the big 20" wheels as standard. He always puts new wheels and tyres on his Troopie ;-)

[@vincentcorreia5714]

Agreed. 471k km on my Disco 3 TDV6 and prefer it to my L320 RR Sport TDV8

[@realtoverland]

You never owned a G wagon or Land Cruiser, did you?

[@philhealey4443]

​@realtoverland My 290GD owned for ten years was disastrously unreliable, experiencing a wheel bearing failure shortly after a front tyre ripped a wing off a Volvo in a roundabout lane clash, with no body damage whatsoever. Stronger than Time and G Wagens can cost you less than nothing in long-term depreciation. I'm still getting tempted to try an elderly Land Cruiser though, if I can find one not looking like a bar of soap or a Tonka toy and it would need to be propelled by 4.2 litres of non turbo perpetual rotation. And I've had a 1978 Range Rover since 2002; that is a completely different breed to later Land Rover products being reasonably reliable and devoid of electronics bar the alternator diodes and electronic ignition.

[@Shanes_Shed]

The baboons pass series was the reason I subbed to this channel many years ago. At the time I had only just purchased a Disco 3 so it was cool to see how capable they where at the time.

[@Malc664]

Great bunch of blokes, great vehicles, challenging tracks = great adventure video. Well done Andrew and crew that helped.

[@hunt4redoctober628]

Another fantastic journey and a fantastic story. I always wanted a Discovery 4 but sadly I never quite got around to getting one.

[@dadventuretv2538]

Had an LR4 that I modded with 18s, larger hybrid AT/mudder tires, ARB bumper and a winch. Wheeled it everywhere. Did the same trails my buddies in Jeeps did, just sometimes couldn’t take the same line. For traction, it was better than Jeeps without lockers. And it never lacked for traction, you just needed to know how to drive it. Didn’t have nearly the articulation, and that wasn’t a traction problem, but a safety problem sometimes. There is not much scarier than having your front wheel 3 feet in the air on the downslope on a mountainside. And the air suspension was one of those subconscious anxieties- I didn’t regularly think about it failing and leaving me stranded, but it was always in the back of my mind. Eventually it had engine problems after an accident, and I needed more room anyway to carry my mountain bike. So now I’m in a Jeep Gladiator. Fits my wheeling and carrying needs better and I love it. But still a fondness in my heart for Roger, my LR4. We had a lot of great adventures together.

[@Lex-Hawthorn]

Most interesting Andrew. Restores some of my faith in Land Rovers. Again...

[@mfhairstream6812]

Great video. One of the best I have watched

[@Raqqqqie]

I personally think that Discovery was at prime with first version, 89-98, very good and reliable engines 200tdi or 300tdi, easy to fix. Next disco generations spends unfortunately more time at mechanix due to advanced electronics and romances with different companies that were delivering engines bmw/ford. No offense to anyone, if they are well maintained they could be reliable but you can’t go wrong with D1. Thank you for uploading videos, cheers 🍻!

[@dumanimjo609]

Easily one of your best films. Watched this for the 3rd time now

[@BrianChavwanga]

Hi, Andrew. Thanks for your quality videos and great content.

[@hypotheticallywhatiskyle]

The D4 has proved itself an excellent car. Easily the best all around vehicle ever made.

[@Treetopflyer777]

What an amazing video. Loved it

[@johnwillett4086]

Andrew, - love your videos and your honesty. I bought my 2016 D4 Landmark a year ago - yes, 20" wheels.... My biggest problem is tyres - being in Europe I need all season, all terrain tyres with the snowflake symbol to make them legal in winter in places like Germany and Austria. I have only found a single tyre on the market that fulfils this at the standard 255/50/R20 size and that's the Yokohama Geolander. There is the Falken, Wildpeak which is an excellent tyre, but that is 255/55/R20 which is slightly larger - hopefully it will fit as I rather like these. But the D4 really IS the perfect vehicle - great for the 1,000 mile cross Europe drive I will do in a few days time, mostly on the Autobahns - but then, as you say, it's also perfect for driving the mountain trails in the Alps and the mountains of Central Europe. Much better than the D5 which replaced it - which is why I bought one of the very last D4s.

[@christophersherrington5412]

Great video, really enjoyed watching.

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[@JustasG]

Andrew, do you have some opinions about new Mahindra Scorpio N and new Thar Roxx 5 door. I know that you don't want to have any business with Mahindra, but as a professional overlander, you could give some inputs on their new cars, engines, gearboxes, suspension, etc., opinions which would be useful for people to make some choices, thank you

[@siphosibiya4472]

I need a spar session after this. Now that was off road, or no road?

[@chrisdown2591]

That was awesome, thank you! I have a Discovery 3 and although I will not be planning anything like what you have shown here, at least I know if I get stuck somewhere I can get out of it!

[@007Knightjp]

I remember watching this adventure a couple of years ago. It certainly challenges the preconceived notions about tough trails, tire pressures, air suspension and most of all, Land Rover vehicles and they traction control systems.

[@pbozman]

Muito bom. Excelentes ideias e inspiracão. Também tenho o que discovery camper mas esse projeto está impecável. Obrigado

[@chucksnothereman]

Great video, I came for the D4 but really enjoyed the little bit at the start around the village. My D4 has done similar and has the scars to prove it. The question is, is the D5 any better? Well done.

[@haanjamiis]

35:52 If you are in offroad mode, you should see your wheel position on the HUD. Also disco4 comes with 19” wheel rims. 20” is usually a high spec option. Isn’t it? At least my D4 hse id on 19”.

[@GCTO239]

I have always liked the LR 3 and 4 but I have never bought one because of its complexity and questionable reliability. It's a really roomy, comfy and very capable offroader. I also like the looks. Can't beat my Troopy though. ;)

[@GCTO239]

​@@X50505 I have done my research, seen Discos break down on the trails and talked to owners. ;) Just look at the discounts on used LR3 and LR4. Don’t get me wrong. It is a great car but too complex when used as a real heavy duty off-roader. Just my opinion.

[@Coordinator61]

​@@X50505yeah right land and range rover quality is still sheit overall.proven fact.

[@MaartenHansman]

@@GCTO239 , not reliable…, my disco 3, 2005 with more then 300k km drives flawless. Maintain him with love and he really won’t leave you on the track. The problem with most drivers is, that they maintain it with the same budget as an technical simpeler car as a troopy. Ik is an luxury car, so it needs a more luxurious maintenance budget.

[@GCTO239]

@@MaartenHansman Well, thank you. You actually proved my point, mate.

[@Coordinator61]

@@X50505 Haha you wish. Long term qualified car mechanic over here and 40 y plus 4x4 experience. Plus 35 y in worldwide oil industry where we only use Toyota and no Land Rovers due to their shit reputation. We leave those mall crawlers in town ok.

[@adventures_with_simo]

How did Land Rover react to the damage? Were they ok about it or did they give you flack?

[@4xoverland]

Roland was okay with it. Very cool. Then he left LR and those who were in that boardroom requested the car back - one month earlier than agreed.

[@adventures_with_simo]

@@4xoverland Thats a shame, sounds like they couldn't see it for the achievement it was. Well done, it was a very enjoyable production.

[@andrewjones-productions]

I thoroughly enjoyed that! Especially as I own a Discovery 5 which I have found does everything I ask of it. Unfortunately, here in Japan, there aren't any trails as difficult as Baboon Pass to take it on, but I had to drive across an extremely muddy rough solar panel construction site in the mountains of Fukushima. I had normal stock tyres and I didn't even have to take it out of high gear. Far better than my 3 litre petrol engines manual Pajero which I owned before it. Other cars (SUVs) struggled even on the flat parts of that construction site, but my D5 didn't even spin or slide on the steep hills. I only wish it didn't come with (stupid) 20" rims!! My biggest gripe with the D5 is that the rear window should be about 5cm lower at the base as trying to reverse on a single track lane is a challenge due to the poor visibility. Yes, I do it old school by turning my head to look down the middle of the car and out of the back window. That allows me to check for obstacles on both sides as well as the road behind me. Now, .....the only question that remains from this fantastic video is whether Andrew bought a pair of frilly underwear for himself or not! :-) Well, that is for Andrew to know and we to wonder about.

[@jerryfrench2981]

Surely it had an option of 18 inch wheels. I Have a RR sport 2009 last of the 2.7 & it came with 18 inchers.

[@thebuffalooverlander]

Gotta say, I still love the comfort of my Disco 4 👏

[@tomlobos2871]

modern luxuary road suv's are much joked about but even some of those might get quite far in the environment they are thought at. that is rough roads and slippy grounds, imagine this as a short road section at your own farm. LR has a core market here but there are some others that might be better than most people think. take first gen mercedes ML that one from jurassic park as example. i wonder how far it actually would get, or the budget nissan xtrail. we rarely learn about actual limitations, just complains about missing this and that instead. there are videos online showing how scandinavian people are pushing their station wagons through deep mudtracks for fun. that amazed me more than another jeep on the rocks tbh. great video and what an amazing country.

[@HeliRy]

Worth noting that for all the lamenting people do about the air suspension, that system is the only reason this vehicle made it across the pass. And it did so without fail, and without a fuss.

[@4xoverland]

Air suspension is great! But for travelling in the most remote areas, the advantages it provides are overshadowed by its disadvantages. I will not have it on one of my expedition trucks.

[@maxchobotov9501]

@@4xoverland Hi Andrew! 🙌 Thanks for one more nice and interesting video! I own Disco 4 with V8 5.0 petrol engine and absolutely love this car, especially the traction control system that really works brilliant without hints of slippage and I have properly used my rig in the mountainous rough roads conditions. I’m very impressed by my LR4 and the only ´tuning’ I’ve yet made is the AT tires))) I would love to hear your opinion of the Lexus LX570 as a potential platform for overlanding build. I see this car as the only one reasonable alternative from comfort and interior side perspective but for me it could have one big advantage over the LR4 during my trips which is ease to find specialist and spares to repair the vehicle in case something goes wrong…Owning the LR4 is a big pain in the ass in these regard…very difficult to find the right hands to maintain it.

[@Hubstart]

Hi Andrew just wondering is there a place I could buy a copy of your TV series just to watch at home ? Thank you

[@4xoverland]

All my significant work since 2010 can be downloaded from here: vimeo.com/aspw/vod_pages

[@Hubstart]

@@4xoverland thank you very much

[@prohalliberica521]

Love all your content Andrew, always watching your videos with a pen and paper taking notes and learning from a true expert. I have a question, I have a L322 Range Rover 2008, also with 20 inch rims, what tires is the LR4 on this video? Thank You

[@huss1205]

Kind of remembering this trip. Man, 12 years passed? I think it was the year I started following your channel or was it 2011 when I started following it, not sure....

[@paulbarnard5267]

It was a great video when you first released it and stands the test of time very well. I wonder if the new Defender would improve on the trip. It does have the option of better tires which I think would make a massive difference.

[@leonotto4671]

LR4- one of the best drives and incredibly capable. If you want to go anywhere, take an LR4. If you want to go home-take a toyota. After my LR4 experience, I chose the latter.

[@jameshogg601]

Had one for 10 years on a farm as our soul vehicle. Unbeatable all rounder and the single best 4x4 I've ever towed with.

[@bigjml]

Like most internet sayings. There isn’t as much truth in it as you might think. The Discovery 3 and 4 are far more robust and better engineered than some think. The biggest problem with the platform was the unreliable Ford engines. And yes, the 2.7 and 3.0 Lion diesel engines are Made by Ford, in Dagenham in Essex

[@leonotto4671]

@@bigjml I drove an LR4. Best and worst car I ever had....

[@leonotto4671]

@@bigjml 100% agree...the Ford was the issue.

[@bigjml]

@@X50505 Not the case, the 2.7 is not the most reliable engine The 3.0 is the most reliable, though it was more problematic after they converted it to Euro6

[@DavitGiorgadze]

Dear Andrew, Can you share stories with MB G-class? Which Episodes are they?

[@katlegothuto6629]

You must review how easily the defenders took on the track 😂

[@MegaSkypes]

Great video Good that I own one with a V8 Oh and 110 Td5 Would love to do that track in both ❤

[@principal7819]

The bes part of this video was the nostalgia of hearing the old intro song.

[@kacperzabczyk4559]

Andrew I really hope you’re going to give a new Defender another shot.

[@4xoverland]

I will not. LR still hate me and for good reason. Its awful in every way. Except the seats. I like the seats.

[@catchawakeup6411]

I am sure the new Defender will make it up Baboons Pass also. But I would REALLY like to see someone take a stock Toyota LC300 up there!

[@SorenHennecke]

How did you trick it to go super extended? Thx

[@4xoverland]

watch the video.

[@SorenHennecke]

@@4xoverland Hello from Germany. i did a couple of times. I hoped there was an Option befrore you bottomed out. I habe da Disco 3 myself...

[@Land_Raver]

Ive always liked the LC100 petrol but with the starter under the intake I just had to pass. Not serviceable in the field so Id never take it on long trips.

[@Arizonal87]

Disco4 wasn't meant for offroading but is still useable for offroading

[@BorisEkner]

38:50 😂❤️

[@xplore-justforthefunofit]

Well, so I now know what my LR4 is capable of 😊 but I do not trink that I ever will touch ist Limits on my offroad trips

[@ingemec83]

My LR3 is also very good ...

[@realtoverland]

I love how all the LR4 owners here say it‘s the best car or offroader out there when cars like a Land Cruiser or G wagon W461 exist 😂

[@rmnwrkcnt]

Could you share some stories of a stock Land Cruiser or a G-wagon doing the Baboon's Path?

[@davidpatrick1813]

Land Rover 88 pre 68 then 109 🙂

[@shekharmoona544]

Why did I think "Baboons Pass" sounded like "Baboons Arse?"

[@matymaty7477]

👌👌👍👍

[@Yaketyyak21]

The moral of the story is,if you want to buy a land rover Discovery to cross Baboon road,you must also hire a team of experts with Landrover Defenders.

[@4xoverland]

The moral of the story is this: Land Rover's claims about the LR4 are well justified. And it completed this pass with expertise and assistance because its just not made for this kind of trip. And it needed quite a bit of repair work after it. The Defenders didn't.

[@Yaketyyak21]

@@4xoverland I know what you are saying,but would it have made the journey with no support..is it capable of a solo journey in these conditions..I thought that was the point.

[@rmnwrkcnt]

@@Yaketyyak21 challenging expeditions should never be done solo on any vehicle.

[@batfinkkarate4429]

I realy love your channel but these 1 minute add breaks are to much

[@4xoverland]

I remove them! But KZbin won't listen when I do. Out of my control. Sorry.

[@captainalen]

overegsaturanting all mate

[@4xoverland]

oh, the horror.

[@shathaniketogetswe4271]

On IGNITION TV

[@4xoverland]

Many, many years ago. I stopped working with them because not only did I have to produce the video for them and give it to them for broadcast, they would not even cover the music license fees. It was around that time I gave up on broadcast TV and turned to KZbin.

[@shathaniketogetswe4271]

@4xoverland I honestly always wondered why you stopped broadcast TV, I followed you as a young man never missed an episode I even show my son's the general area where you camped with your daughter in the D-Teq which is in the same area as our farm, but l am not complaining, I never miss an upload!!

[@notrut]

So what you needed was 5+men to move the rocks for the LR4...

[@4xoverland]

Had it been even bigger, 10 men, a crane. Where does this end? The LR4 wasn't the problem here.

[@pimpovic2]

I'd rather have the LR3 over the LR4. The 3 has a more dependable powertrain. (V8)

[@npet6842]

You could have done without that rain .

[@davidmilledge221]

Crap unreliable 4x4s tow trucks love them in Australia

[@marka6591]

Didn’t watch the video did you? Hardly crap. Hardly unreliable. Name any other vehicle that is as capable off-road, and as luxurious on road…

[@Mays99]

My heart says buy one, My brain- Left the chat.

[@adrianrorvik7488]

🤣🤣. Ditto! My ex has one with aftermarket 18" tyres and have done many trips in it. Cost a lot to repair the twin turbos but, man, what a vehicle for long trips, with some bush. I had just convinced myself NOT to consider one, but...