LandBack: The Indigenous Liberation Movement

LandBack isn’t about deporting white people. It’s a path to a better future.
Introduction - 0:00
What is LandBack - 0:53
How to LandBack - 10:51
Outro - 16:40
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[@Andrewism]

So uh...this video was scheduled and now there's a whole MAGA coup happening in the US. What better time to emphasize indigenous liberation I suppose?😅 After all, fascism and settler colonialism are deeply linked.

[@peterpeterpeterpeterpeterp1431]

@Seer-of-things end What lmao

[@ferbsol2334]

Brown people are cringe

[@peterpeterpeterpeterpeterp1431]

@@ferbsol2334 Why

[@Q269]

As an American: it's flabbergasting how much of our culture is specifically attempting to take advantage of us, and the crazy that has spawned as a result is not surprising, but certainly revolting.

[@johnnysphere3510]

BLM also has to go. All Americans must be Native American Supremacists

[@hedgehog3180]

Greenland is a pretty clear example of it actually happening, it seems set to become independent within the decade.

[@m.g.4060]

can I have some links to learn more about it please

[@flamingo6828]

what's going on in Greenland?

[@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2]

I thought that they don't want to be independent as this would mean the seizing of funds from mainland Denmark.

[@tallpine466]

Greenland is weird, the first people to find Greenland were the Dorset people, but they went extinct for unknown reasons( presumed to conflict with the Inuit). The next people to find and inhabit Greenland were the Vikings, the Inuit came and Cohabitated Greenland with the Vikings. So the question remains, whose land it? The Vikings who came first but are a minority? Or the Inuit who came later but are the majority population? It’s a difficult question with no real good answer.

[@ariaaaaaa]

@@tallpine466 the inuit before vikings which means it's theres

[@geoffdparsons]

can you put citations for your images too? rly thankful you listed your information sources but you have such amazing images and i would love to know who the artists are

[@parker5944]

I second this

[@wolfelee356]

yes plz

[@barrydheil]

Wet'suwet'en and what's going on in northern ontarian nations are things I think Mr. Performer Justin Trudeau would like to go quietly into the night, but thankfully, with groups like Canadaland, and exposée after exposée of the travesties people have done to native reserves, I expect it to take full force. When People in a country like mine still use terms like "n***nab" to describe anishinaabe people, you know we are far from done fighting colonial ideas.

[@rampantmutt9119]

They call Anishinaabe people what?? I live in southern Ontario and I think most people down here don't even know that Anishinaabe people exist because of Indigenous erasure and colonialism. Seriously though, what are those three letters?

[@keaganfarr4938]

Glad you brought up Philadelphia's Camp Maroon (later known more as Camp JTD) and Camp Teddy. While the efforts did secure - allegedly - a few dozen spaces for a community land trust, many of the people at the camps felt that some camp "leaders" caved too soon and acted on behalf of the camps without being mandated to do so. While the small victory will undoubtedly improve some people's lives in the city, I think it is important to keep in mind that it wasn't a clear "victory" and that many residents and volunteers felt that certain "organizers" cheated the projects out of a better victory just to put another feather in their "organizer" caps (similar to George Bush's infamous "Mission Accomplished" incident, where he asserted a victory to score political points but didn't actually succeed as well much as they made it appear).

[@Andrewism]

Thanks for the extra information, good to know! It really highlights in my mind the importance of emphasizing horizontal, consensus based organization rather than the top down approach.

[@keaganfarr4938]

@@Andrewism Exactly, and hopefully we take what we learned from the successes and failures of these camps with us down the line as we continue to fight for each other in this city :)

[@warrenhunter7185]

@@Andrewism haha lunatic

[@nothingslost9586]

Gonna share this so it doesn't flop, this is a great intro to the Land Back movement and is greatly appreciated

[@arigadatred5395]

It's good to hear stuff like this. It can be pretty hard to know how to support indigenous peoples, even if it seems obvious in hindsight and all, so this was helpful.

[@JamesAlexanderMartin]

I love your focus on Praxis, it really makes me feel more hopeful.

[@puppydestroyah]

can't let this flop

[@nicholascohen3060]

Thanks for making this content, great work. Also thank you for taking the time to write your own captions. As someone with an auditory processing disorder, it helps a lot.

[@mysticonthehill]

That is so true decolonization begins in the mind and all settlers have an obligation to as not to perpetuate the systems of oppress, dispossession and genocide of our ancestors. But not only is it solidarity it is healing for our community which is traumatized without knowing it. We were indigenous whether English, Han or Iraqi once and reclaiming the mindset, relationships and philosophy/spirituality can only do us good.

[@GOne-vj6no]

Agree. Decolonize the animalistic savage way or traditions of being and existing. This present consumerism system.

[@GOne-vj6no]

It isn't reality.

[@perhapsabbey]

Found your channel through F.D Signifier, your take on things is so refreshing than other videos in this space that leave me feeling a little doomed. Not to mention I havent seen any videos on indigenous struggles like this before. Keep up the good work!

[@RedPlateaus]

Awesome video - really love the focus on praxis, consciousness, and direct action!

[@snowyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

comment for the algorithm: i dont have much to say other than i shared this with people who i think will appreciate it. i hope this movement gets a lot more attention so that people can see that indigenous people haven't disappeared or stopped being targeted

[@marathecrayon7565]

I will definitely be sharing as well. I want more people to understand Indigenous history and know about landback. Wishing you the best

[@GOne-vj6no]

And stereotyped. Tru their culture due to ignorance.

[@reddoctorproductions3746]

Thank you so much for this video! I was having a hard time understanding this stuff but you've provided an amazing summary, I think

[@ripleylove5306]

Fantastic video, gonna try and share this one as much as possible

[@user-ou9tn3uf9u]

as an indigenous person watching this video, HOLY you explained everything so perfectly!!!!! thank you so much for so accurately sharing our stories and giving the land back movement a platform, seeing you advocate and educate motivates me to continue doing the same❤

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

What I've been able to gather is that landback is really just a word for the general idea of indigenous sovereignty, but the reason it's so difficult to define and why I've had so much trouble over the past few months finding an actual meaning is because there is no real meaning. It's not something that's been heavily written about and it's not something that has concrete theory to go along with it. Many people disagree on its meaning and one person's definition of the word may contradict another person's because different indigenous groups have a different approach to indigenous sovereignty. The definition can vary tribe to tribe, country t country, etc. A lot of people (non-indigenous specifically) use "landback" as a slogan and don't really understand what landback actually entails, so it causes a lot of confusion and frustration. It's basically become a virtue signal for a lot of non indigenous people and they're sloganeering about a concept they only vaguely understand.

[@ThomasBomb45]

What's so complicated about giving land back?

[@analyticalmindset]

@@ThomasBomb45 lol only to this clown who probably has some reservations on the idea . I'm black and in America and would love native Americans to be the new government. Rename the country , make your own rules , form your own councils . If y'all end up booting me out , I'll take my happy butt back to Liberia lol

[@toontrooper4103]

@@analyticalmindset from all the countless stuff I read most indigenous people wouldn't want to boot you lol. It's just for native nations to control the land they have a claim to. In the words of one native "the only thing that would change is your lifestyle" (they were saying that to a confused white person). So essentially just don't exploit nature and don't be a racist, or try to impose colonial ideas of governance. That's the only thing that'd get you kicked out lol.

[@marathecrayon7565]

I definitely wish more people were educated about landback. I feel that the reason people are not open to learning about it is because they need to fully understand what it entails. I have had people argue with me about their misunderstandings. Thank you for your info

[@MrCmon113]

@@ThomasBomb45 Giving what land back to whom?

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

This is great and agree with everything. I’ll just say that historically speaking there are many influences we can take from indigenous cultures such as communitarianism, Confederalism, a spiritual view of social and nature relations etc…. But let’s not fall into the European “noble savage” myths. Indigenous peoples were the masters of their environment. Land Back yes! But there are traditionalisms the world is better off without even in indigenous cultures. Which is why I’m interested in learning more about how indigenous cultures synthesize with modern political ideologies like anarchism, since indigenous cultures themselves aren’t anarchism. I have to thank you Andrew, one of your videos lead me to the IAF-FAI to learn more about indigenous liberation and their views in solidarity

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

There's nothing "spiritual" in science.

[@MrCmon113]

The entire idea is diametrically opposed to Marxism. It's just that most leftists, like most right wingers, are hypocrits, who have tribes rather than convictions.

[@roccafille]

This was so beautiful. It made me cry because it touched me so deeply. You have a new supporter.

[@ivanclark2275]

I’m glad you shouted out Camp JTD and Camp Teddy in Philadelphia. A lot of people worked really hard to defend and maintain them last year. I think they can be an important model of direct action in the future.

[@van_trini13]

Thank you so much for creating this content. It's great, but as a trini it's also great to feel represented. Keep doing it boss.

[@fluffixation]

Thank you for making this video!

[@sophiejones7727]

Frankly, if any tribe feels like they can assert their authority they have my support. Every time I’ve dealt with a conventional government it’s been excruciatingly painful. To the point where I deliberately avoid it whenever possible, and I frankly have reservations about M4A because of how despicably I’ve been treated (and seen other people be treated) by the US government as well as by the French, Chilean and Canadian governments. But then I call up the Bad River Chippewa to put my name on their vaccine list just in case. I speak to a person, not an answering machine. A person, who suggests times when I could get an appointment instead of making me guess when the clinic might be open. As it turns out, they have an opening earlier than the city clinic: so I go to them. I get lost on the way, and end up dealing with the casino receptionist. If you waltzed into a government office in Boston and asked directions to a different office you’d get “not my job, now move along or else”. But the casino receptionist answers my question (it was foggy, we missed the normally very obvious road). Then I get to the clinic. No security guard, no metal detector, no one wants to search my purse, no one is yelling, the lights don’t give me a headache, I’m the only white person there but no one is staring at me, when I say I have an appointment I don’t get raised eyebrows and pursed lips and an “I see”, the receptionist doesn’t ask for my ID. These are people who have *legitimate* reasons to be suspicious of me and I would totally understand if they were. But they aren’t. When I ask the nurse about the procedure for scheduling my second shot, he gives me a straight answer in plain English and doesn’t berate me when I repeat what he just said to make sure I’ve understood (which is a thing I have to do because autism). And finally, when they say they’re going to call you…*they actually do*. That doesn’t mean “call us again in two weeks only to be angrily told it’s not time yet and then be kept guessing for another two weeks.” In other words they *gasp* treated me as innocent until proven guilty. I was 9 in 2001. So I don’t remember a time when the US government didn’t view it’s own citizens with hostility. If 9/11 was even the breaking point (all I have to go on here is what my parents and their friends say). If this wasn’t just always the way the US government acted. Again, let me point out: I am literally the whitest white person. I would *absolutely* understand if a Native American thought I was sus and treated me as such. I would totally understand if a tribal government felt I was a security risk and wanted to make absolutely sure I could be trusted before letting me anywhere near their property or their people. They have legitimate reasons to think such things about me. Yet for some reason this is how my own government treats me, not how the Chippewa treat me. So ya know, if Ashland WI goes bankrupt (unsurprisingly, this is extremely likely) and the Chippewa decide to seize the land they ain’t getting complaints from me. Obviously, they do something differently from every other government I’ve ever encountered although I don’t know enough to say what that is. And whatever it is, everyone else needs to start doing it before everyone on this continent loses all faith in the idea of governments forever. People wonder why libertarianism and anarchism are so popular. Well, maybe it’s because most governments treat people like shit. On the one hand I know that if there is no government then there is no one to stop a bully. On the other hand, I’ve seen the government be the bully more often than not. A government with a different structure that ensures the citizens are treated with the respect: that’s what I want. And if it’s the Chippewa who can pull that off then that’s who is getting my loyalty. My ancestors didn’t survive by clinging to notions of racial purity. They made it by giving their loyalty to governments who proved themselves able to govern. They were called sell-outs, but I’m here and those who made such accusations aren’t. If there is one thing I’ve learned from my family’s colorful history, it’s that Jesus’ parable about building on sand versus rock is sound advice. Judge people and organizations based on how they treat you and nothing else. Give your loyalty to those who have earned it, not those who demand it. I was born a citizen of the United States of America. For better or for worse it is like a parent to me. But, being queer has taught me what you do to abusive parents. You cut them off.

[@68i98]

Omg I almost cried reading this. You're totally right

[@tecitomatcha9388]

People like you really give me hope. Thank you SO much 💕

[@Gemini_Snake-25_01]

🍻

[@tobials7507]

AAAAAH SO MUCH LOVE FOR YOUR CHANNEL

[@cowtowncutie383]

Who painted the picture at 4:23? Of the young woman surrounded by green? It’s gorgeous 💛💛💛

[@pece469]

Irvin Rodriguez, Among the Leaves

[@charliedibe6180]

I appreciate this video for its clarity and elegantly stated ideas. Very helpful to me and worth sharing.

[@zackaryjargowsky8611]

This video made me feel less alone, and more hopeful.

[@manorovermanor299]

The art in this video is beautiful. If anyone has sources, please drop them!

[@Marcussanders-sw3wn]

I am a American Indian and I was wondering if you can do more videos on Native American or American Indian culture.

[@Marcussanders-sw3wn]

You make amazing videos.

[@alexiawilliams110]

Another excellent video🙌🏾

[@xANTIxMirrorGod]

Im watching it twice! 💜

[@LogicGated]

A lot of white debate bro leftists need to learn a bit about settler colonialism.

[@spaghettimon3851]

Breadtube is a white as Wonder Bread and filled with dishonest hacks and bad faith actors who code their messages in esthetics and optics bullshit! We as MLs shouldn't concern ourselves with these college drop outs. Let these losers LARP for liberals and the social democrats.

[@MrCmon113]

No. Literally doesn't make a difference. It's just that you have absolutely no principles and instead just a political tribe.

[@robotanon4478]

This channel needs so much more love

[@deardegenerate8017]

Yes, very informative. Thanm you for this

[@lyrablack8621]

Thanks for subtitles!

[@livpeake8108]

I would love to enact land back but as someone from the uk I don’t know how to help!

[@angus7278]

Recognize Britain’s role in colonialism, including the role of the “Balfour Declaration”, and support the current struggle of the indigenous people of Palestine by speaking out.

[@sereminar4]

Another excellent video!

[@FinnmacD]

This is an excellent video and deserves more views.

[@jaime_el_brujito]

It’s awesome seeing the collaboration of black people and natives mentioned! So many people forget that. That’s how all of the great Latin American music and food began. The mixing of (at least in the Caribbean) the Taíno and West Africans.

[@youtubeaccount5356]

If anything the Native Americans should unite with the "Latinos" cause majority of "Latinos" have Indigenous DNA as well.

[@kayxander7426]

Amazing vid 👍🏾

[@janelliot5643]

Do you have a clean version?

[@anarkismus8410]

Great video !

[@David-rg5cw]

Beautiful

[@majorlazor5058]

Saved this video for today… Indigenous peoples’ day.

[@meowcholos]

staying out of the comments section this time. love the video :)

[@AuntyKsTarot]

My 21 yr old 2 spirit child who is Lakota and Algonquin is a landback warrior and you did them Justice.

[@Manyaraz]

so inspiring

[@_vallee_5190]

Make a video on the current situation oh my god.

[@renaigh]

Art is the Framework of Culture, without it all we have is a scattered Society of Chaos & Suffering to be exploited by those who do not, cannot see the beauty of Humanity.

[@nottheborg836]

I love your accent so much!!!!!!!!

[@iamnohere]

I: Hi! Coming back to this vid to -feed the algorhithm, and- apologize for my previous comment. I was trying to express that the topic "sounds worse than it is" and might trigger a knee-jerk reaction in people who aren´t fully open-minded and/or willing to learn, but it came across as me expecting a prize for not giving in to the first impression, and for doing a closer research. ^^; Plus I was stupid, saying how you should´ve made the "it´s not about deportation" point clear right from the start, when in fact it was right there in the description, and I missed it 🤦Apologies!

[@mvandell]

Subscribed .. this is a very well put together video. You touch upon all the important topics and leave the viewer inspired to act and learn more! I'm just about to start a vlogcast called Earth Connection. I hope we realize the dream we hold in our hearts! ❤️🌟

[@katherinehenley2008]

Great video

[@otherperson]

Anyone know the artist/art piece at 4:24?

[@pece469]

Irvin Rodriguez, Among the Leaves

[@otherperson]

@@pece469 wow thanks so much!

[@pece469]

@@otherperson Hey, no problem :)

[@lukemohammed7459]

I love your videos. The combination of what you talk about and your soothing voice, just make it intriguing.

[@johnknavish6704]

great video

[@v.c.ar.2759]

🖤Solidarity forever, Brother❤

[@MutualAidWorks]

Interesting video, thankyou.

[@raydgreenwald7788]

More people should see this

[@Diod161]

Sent here by Anark, wonderful video! ^^

[@andrewswift2683]

Interesting video, touching on many issues. It would be interesting to hear the end vision of the landback effort. That was alluded to, but not articulated here. At the risk of mischaracterizing it, my perception was that part of it involves collective ownership of the land. The historical record on this is not a favorable one. The Soviet Union being an example. Even in an idealized version of American Indian societies, raiding and conquering of weaker groups was routine, and often institutionalized e.g. the Aztecs. Yes, we must respect the land and traditions of others, more work to be done for sure, but we must acknowledge that the past is gone, progress is being made, and any future vision needs to include all of us, including "settler colonists". And if that vision is just eradication of the prevailing culture then that's not a step forward. Respectfully.

[@egotisticEgg]

Check out the book Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer for the ecological element of Land Back. It's a beautiful book about how humans exist as a part of nature, not as a virus or destructive force but as people who help nature thrive.

[@wolfelee356]

great video!

[@Seapears]

For the sake of clarity, You said that around 5% of the worlds population is indigenous and living on their perceived ancestral lands. So when you say Indigenous I assume your not taking into that count peoples like such as Marathi in India, or the Bramar of Myanmar, or Scots, English, Russians, Sami, Somali, Han, Ming, Finns, or Galicians. I bring this up only because in the age of Nation States it is far more normal for indigenous/native peoples to have a state of their own, and if not, at least live on their perceived ancestral lands within another state. The percentage must be far greater, at least 50% or more of Indigenous/Native peoples globally. As such I ask, what exactly do you mean by Indigenous?

[@kenshinxxx9385]

He’s talking about indigenous ppls experiencing settler violence in the present day homie

[@loveandmercy9664]

I would add Israelis, Maronites, Coptics, Chaldeans, Assyrians, Romikia Greeks, Armenians

[@loveandmercy9664]

The Jews are probably the most successful people in landback and language revitalization.

[@MrCmon113]

@@kenshinxxx9385 Is an indigenous German girl getting bullied by Moroccan settlers in Berlin settler violence?

[@thejunecooperative]

Love your content! Solidarity from me to you!

[@pups4palestine]

Well put! Landback!! Love the art you chose too. Love your voice. Love your work.

[@LanaTiikpuu]

solidarity forever

[@yesid17]

@youtube how do i like this video more than once

[@artemkanarchist]

Land back🔥❤️🖤🔥

[@jinx111]

very helpful video on getting to the root of the idea!

[@joshplaysdrums2143]

Another great one! Gonna leave an algorithm comment :)

[@splau2020]

This movement, as with most that andrew presents on, has some very serious issues when it comes to application that are glossed over with flowery tag lines. Take the US for example. How much land is given back? All the land? So is the logical conclusion here that control of a nation of 350 million people is handed over to a roughly 2.7 million person demographic of that nation? What if your 1/16th native american. Do you get 1/16th of a vote? Full vote? No vote? Does this lead to forced migrations? These are all questions that i would need concretely answered before giving my support to a movement of this type.

[@amefuraggamuffin]

hell yeah #landback

[@nmayor8290]

❤

[@letkwu]

Most appreciation to this channel 💗🌿

[@shinemendwoor]

Anyone doing this course called MECH400😂😂 landback meaning can be found 9:10

[@janakayla]

As always he comes through with the video.

[@yesone5139]

there should be a website where I can put 20 acres on a map of lands that are restored to the function of pre colonial times.

[@jonasuriel7936]

Solidarity.

[@patrickzingler4372]

For the algorithm

[@hunter5028]

Merdog says "LAND BACK!"

[@imperatorsage5510]

Boosting

[@Lycandros]

🖤💜✊💜🖤

[@Q269]

Life, Liberty, & the pursuit of happiness... This was specifically altered from the British roots, who granted Life, Liberty, & the pursuit of property. We've been pushing for this in theory since ratification, we've just fought tooth and nail against our own ideals from the beginning.

[@loripower7819]

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is only possible in the model of capitalism.

[@ex_orpheus1166]

Here in Aotearoa/New Zealand, Te Tiriti o Waitangi was framed as bilateral relationship between the kawanatanga (governorship) of the British Crown and the Tino Rangatiratanga (absolute sovereignty) of the indigenous Māori. Whether this actually entails eventually eliminating the settler state is something I am ambivalent towards.

[@AuntyKsTarot]

That’s neo colonialism and it hasn’t worked so well

[@ex_orpheus1166]

@@AuntyKsTarot Neocolonialism is indirect colonialism through private enterprise, not militant, state apparatus. Te Tiriti is arguably about moderating or compromising the state's power from a Māori perspective, although for the British it was a means of acquiring sovereignty.

[@dellrae9169]

Give it back...take it back...choices...

[@lexlixatkwa7nelson3]

"We do not need to ask permission to be free"

[@dellrae9169]

Haha you think your free...guilded cage is all

[@rampantmutt9119]

“Where today are the Pequot? Where are the Narragansett, the Mohican, the Pokanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice and the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun. Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead and everything that is dear and sacred to us? I know you will cry with me, 'Never! Never!'” - Tecumseh

[@MrCmon113]

If that's the choice I prefer the people, who abolished slavery and invented antibiotics, over the people, whose highest cultural achievement are comfortable shoes.

[@rampantmutt9119]

@@MrCmon113 Abolishing slavery and inventing antibiotics are not the accomplishments of colonialism, nor is the extremely subjective matter of "cultural achievements" an excuse for colonialism. There is no choice, because decolonization is happening.

[@luketracey3269]

🍀.............

[@valentinaciroski2538]

digestible for peewees like me :) I’m thankful for that

[@amesnfire1098]

Algorithm feeding comment

[@Sheerspeechcraft]

8:54 man's really said TIBET lmao

[@savannaha5038]

"Colonialism is bad except when China does it"

[@AmericanMuffin9]

Based video. Was wondering if anyone in the lefty sphere had made a video about landback yet. Miigwetch 😘

[@hhhh9740]

By that logic Germany should take back part of Poland.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

and greeks take anatolia, and welsh and scots take all britannia

[@Johnson333552]

I'll take "fundamentally misunderstanding the point of the video" for $500, Alex!

[@danjohnson1754]

"It is essential that we necessitate our own feast laws and territorial due- processes. Any merger agreements pertaining to law with colonial interest must be carefully considered by all members of each clan. Although the house clans hold title to the land the government continues to obtain signatures through illegal means. Our Laws and due processes must be recognized and followed by all clan members including all chiefs. First nations land title has never belong to one individual acting as a king or queen. We hold many names and many blankets we are made up of many families who can never speak for other families lands. We have a due process to satisfy before we can make decisions on our land. Our feast system has never functioned under a colonial process. Government must come to the feast and pay back all they took from all our individual clans and territories before they can even speak from the visitors table. Every resource that has been taken has to be given back before they can ever hold a high speaking name, this is the reason they want to bypass our hereditary system they have stolen too much and can’t pay it all back. They used federal band office employees in an attempt to take away your land and resources. We need to necessitate our system of law under our preexisting rule of law, when consultation is a requirement it must be honorably completed under our rule of law. Nothing is lawful under our own laws if it hasn't satisfied our preexisting feast law processe.

[@spencer1980]

Landback should happen. Landback will happen (land barons in the Midwest are my target for that. The kind that get money from the federal government to pour corn syrup down our throats), but tell me... ....do your people need belts? I hear leather made from land owners is particularly supple.

[@spencer1980]

I try to be reasonable with these people. It's clear that their cruelty is because they cannot reason.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

I will never leave Oklahoma

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

To be 100% honest, nothing about landback makes sense to me and looking for clarification online doesn't help much because people either are very vague about its meaning or become hostile when you ask. At best, you find people saying "well what it means to ME is...". I've been trying to research the concept over the past 3 hours and I'm still as confused as I was when I started. I'm not gonna say I don't support it but I'll continue to have no opinion on it, as it doesn't really seem to have a concrete meaning.

[@henrystokes1987]

I'm in the exact same boat. Came here to be educated and left just as confused

[@lexlixatkwa7nelson3]

In the simplest terms, it's about returning agency to the indigenous peoples of the land you are standing on and allowing our people to continue protecting our territory from corporate and colonial destruction. It's not only the people in our territory we are protecting but the animals and plants within it so we can all co-exist. No more destruction, we just want to live.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

@@lexlixatkwa7nelson3 this is still pretty vague tbh. how do you return agency to indigenous people? What does that entail? Is land going back to indigenous governments? From what I've been told, many indigenous governments have huge problems with corruption. Will indigenous people officially own the land in the same way we see land ownership today? I tried reading up on landback more and I saw people talking about the US and Canada respecting the treaties they had with indigenous people. I'm assuming its more to it than that, otherwise it wouldn't be such a controversial position. Did all indigenous people have the same relationship with the land? I know the empires of modern Mexico/Central America were the colonizers of their time and weren't great to the environment. For tribes that were historically closer to the Aztecs culturally, what's their role in landback? Or are they not considered indigenous in the same way? Assuming you're a communist or anarchist, is your definition of landback a pre- or post-revolution goal? I kinda understand landback on a purely moral level, like it's their land, "give it back" (whatever that means) but when it goes into the climate change stuff, it kinda begins to sound kinda weird. Especially when we can look at Africa and Asia where control has (somewhat) been given back to indigenous people and it hasn't resulted in much because of the amount of corruption.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

@@henrystokes1987 What I've been able to gather is that landback is really just a word for the general idea of indigenous sovereignty, but the reason it's so difficult to define and why I've had so much trouble over the past few months finding an actual meaning is because there is no real meaning. It's not something that's been heavily written about and it's not something that has concrete theory to go along with it. Many people disagree on its meaning and one person's definition of the word may contradict another person's because different indigenous groups have a different approach to indigenous sovereignty. The definition can vary tribe to tribe, country t country, etc. A lot of people (non-indigenous specifically) use "landback" as a slogan and don't really understand what landback actually entails, so it causes a lot of confusion and frustration. It's basically become a virtue signal for a lot of non indigenous people. But the confusion comes from trying to figure out the definition of a word with no definition.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

@@pilarrivera2547 what does that directly have to do with indigenous people though? It has to be more to it than that.

[@fuzzyplasmacat6357]

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[@mjolninja9358]

Same with Russia, if you go further east you wouldn’t see any russian looking folk. They’re mostly Turkic people.

[@ahahaghaha191]

emm, no. "mostly turkic". There are so many ethnic groups, from karels in west to udehe people in far east.

[@mjolninja9358]

@@ahahaghaha191 yeah my bad

[@carb_rta]

commented for the alg*rithm boost

[@tobials7507]

Same