Language Acquisition vs. Learning | Second Language Theory | TESOL

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@ManuelAicart
@ManuelAicart Жыл бұрын
I find Krashen's distinction between learning and acquisition valid, but I'd question the use of the term "subconscious" for acquisition. I think what Krashen refers to as "acquisition" is actually an inductive reasoning process. Analytical abilities are used in the process of learning a language, whether learners are aware of them or not. How else do you work out the meaning of new words if not by turning to your cognitive abilities, whether deductive or inductive? Where do we draw the line when talking about "subconscious"?
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ Жыл бұрын
Yes, there is the suggestion that the child does not think, that it comes ‘naturally’ whatever that means. As you say, they must be aware, and consciously thinking, solving a puzzle.
@djbooks7812
@djbooks7812 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Very concise and easy to follow. All ESL and EFL teachers need this basic knowledge, but sadly many don't know the difference or how to employ them to help their students.
@rodrigoguzman1221
@rodrigoguzman1221 3 жыл бұрын
the importance of knowing about the processes that take place when producing and, maybe , perceiving language when it comes to teaching....
@michellemartina4463
@michellemartina4463 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! As teachers, it's important for us to know the distinctions between the two and how to use/integrate them. Your points are very good and have definitely been noted.
@rickgrammatica9385
@rickgrammatica9385 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for summing these 2 up in an easy to understand way. I've learnt about both separately but never directly compared them like this. I'd also approached language acquisition as only a long term passive process. It's interesting to see your interpretation, and I'll definitely take your advice.
@juliahope7100
@juliahope7100 4 жыл бұрын
@@williambudd2850 There's no need to be rude you know...
@NAJAHPRIMARYANDSECONDARYSCHOOL
@NAJAHPRIMARYANDSECONDARYSCHOOL Жыл бұрын
the importance of knowing about the processes that take place when producing and, maybe , perceiving language when it comes to teaching.... THANK
@zaakirahcassim1297
@zaakirahcassim1297 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir this is helping me with my exam for FLT3701. This is good work.
@bokyunglee1118
@bokyunglee1118 6 жыл бұрын
You explain things very well. This was a great talk and learners and teachers should really try to listen to what you advise. In Korea it is all about just remembering words and grammar but this talk makes it clear what we should do to study and learn more effectively. Thanks
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, there is more to language learning than just remembering words and grammar rules. Have a great day.
@dr.sandeepk.thorat4204
@dr.sandeepk.thorat4204 4 жыл бұрын
SLA and SLL are explored very elaborately in this video.
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr! Glad you liked it.
@rockthewok1196
@rockthewok1196 6 жыл бұрын
Another great lecture. Very clear. Thanks!
@dalalalshammry3836
@dalalalshammry3836 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I learned a lot from the lesson and by the way, you look like a member of the Peaky Blinders Gang
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 3 жыл бұрын
Lol..Thanks. I am glad you enjoyed it!
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ Жыл бұрын
More like a car salesman. 🙂 Mybe if he wore spats, a jacket with wide lapels, a kipper tie, an old style hat and holding a violin case.
@JimSchneiderAZ
@JimSchneiderAZ 3 жыл бұрын
good stuff! useful for teachers and learners alike.
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Thanks for viewing!
@andratannenbaum4484
@andratannenbaum4484 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I don't really understand what "comprehensible input is best for language acquisition" means..
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 3 жыл бұрын
It means if you can understand the message, then you have a better chance of acquiring the language used.
@malarovikasari1985
@malarovikasari1985 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Btw I have a question. So, how is the process of language acquisition similar to that the second language learning? Thx
@6Uncles
@6Uncles Жыл бұрын
Seems like youtube ESL is post/trans-Krashen CI, while SLA youtube is stuck in often hyper-Krashen CI world
@Joshesl
@Joshesl Жыл бұрын
Not sure of the point you are trying to make, but thnks for commenting.
@6Uncles
@6Uncles Жыл бұрын
@@Joshesl most non English forgoing language youtube advice, doesn't talk about such concepts. They're stuck on comprehensible input. Often radical
@Joshesl
@Joshesl Жыл бұрын
Oh, SLA has moved, but understadning the role of input is crucial. It should not be discounted. We can't learn anything without input, but yes, as my recent research papers show, input is not everything@@6Uncles
@6Uncles
@6Uncles Жыл бұрын
@@Joshesl where can I look to get more indepth info? Best resources?
@FernandaSuta
@FernandaSuta 5 жыл бұрын
Could you help me explaining what U-Shaped is and its stages? Thank you, your videos are great! They’ve helped me a lot!
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I forgot to reply. In about 2 months I will be releasing more videos on how we learn ~ I am sure they will help you. Thanks for checking out my vids.
@hamdanalatawi1315
@hamdanalatawi1315 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro
@geyagenu2251
@geyagenu2251 9 ай бұрын
😍
@abhikul123
@abhikul123 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video but indecisive. Knowledge has to lead to help decision making. I am a foreign language trainer. Please tell me how this can help me. Kindly give me the step by step language learning process.
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 5 жыл бұрын
My only advice would be to understand that both have their role to play. There is no step- by-step approach. Think of the goals of your class and lesson and structure a class that builds on previous knowledge and introduces some new language.
@abhikul123
@abhikul123 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joshesl appreciate your advice. I want to learn the language acquisition method better. Could you kindly elaborate a little?
@rezryk1242
@rezryk1242 4 жыл бұрын
One question, where are you from? Your accent sounds really strange and muddled. If I had to guess, I'd say you're a South African trying to take on an American accent.
@Joshesl
@Joshesl 4 жыл бұрын
Yes ~ my accent is "muddled". I am Australian but have lived in several countries and have been surrounded by different North American accents for the past 10 years ~ I guess it impacted the way I speak. Thanks for checking out my vids.
@NAJAHPRIMARYANDSECONDARYSCHOOL
@NAJAHPRIMARYANDSECONDARYSCHOOL Жыл бұрын
the importance of knowing about the processes that take place when producing and, maybe , perceiving language when it comes to teaching.... THANK
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