Lanshan setup with mods (Paria Arches 2P tent)

[@sw5315]

I have had the 2p version for 3 yrs and have put it through hell. Still going strong.

[@claire820928]

Thanks for the video. It is very helpful!! For people who are considering buying it now or in the future. I bought the tent recently (2022). They have made pretty much all the modifications as this video suggested. All the corners now come with shock cords. They also include additional 8 guy lines including 2 extra long ones for rain fly guy outs. The only minor thing that was wrong was that the line locks were not installed properly. As a newbie, I watched a couple of videos on how to use line locks and got it fixed. A great tent and a great company!

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Great to know! They did send me an updated tent body recently with the changes but I haven't had a chance to try them out yet. Cool to see them making good updates.

[@KimberCoates]

Thank you so much for this set up guide. I just got one and it's my first tent so this is incredibly helpful!

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Nice!!

[@tdulka]

Thanks for the tips. I just received my tent today and tried setting it up. Had some issues so I was looking online and your video is helpful. I will start my modifications to be ready for my hiking trip next month. Moving from a hammock to a tent so I hope this works!. Nice job.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Glad it helped! I was all in on hammocking for a while but honestly a roomy tent like this with a good quality sleeping pad is hard to beat. I ended up going with the Nemo tensor XL which I like a lot more than the Paria pad. Fits great.

[@mjack7749]

I just bought this tent, thank you very much for making such an informative video. I will be coming back for reference and will practice setting it up with you.

[@elizabeth4053]

I’ve loved my Big Agnes 2P but she’s heavy. So I went with the SMD Skyscraper Scout when I backpack with a group. I live in Alaska and now I know what to order if backpacking with a friend, especially if they don’t have gear. My jaw dropped at the width of this palace. Saved this video for when it arrives. Thank you! 🙋🏻‍♀️🏔⛺️

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

For sure! Yes, tons of room 😀

[@jamesholland1497]

Very comprehensive review of that tent and great tips to go along as well, looks like a great deal cleared up some questions that I had to thank you

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Awesome, glad is was helpful!

[@bronsonalec5047]

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[@anthonyknox6797]

@Bronson Alec flixportal =)

[@bronsonalec5047]

@Anthony Knox thanks, signed up and it seems to work :) I really appreciate it !!

[@anthonyknox6797]

@Bronson Alec you are welcome xD

[@brucemupp]

thank you very helpful. not really any clear instructions with the tent so this was great

[@Mars21681]

great review, thanks for taking the time to make the video and cover details that are very helpful. Should get this vid over to Paria, they might appreciate this kind of feed back!

[@CrazyDiamond.critter]

A little late, but... Good video. I've been eyeballing this tent and the seller, because of their reputation. Just pulled the trigger on a decent size order. Thanks a whole lot!

[@cyrilhaessig27]

A very thorough review. Very helpful. Great modifications as well.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cyrilhaessig27]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 Would you say the 2P is definitely the better option ? Slightly heavier than the 1P and marginally more expensive. I appreciate this is quite subjective.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

To me it just depends on whether you think you'll ever want a 2 person option. The 1P is definitely roomy enough for 1 person. I'm about to go on a backpacking trip and share this tent, and being able to split the weight and only carry a little over 1.5 lbs is nice!

[@Johnnywalleye1]

I picked this tent up for 135$ and love your modifications

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Great deal! Thanks for the feedback :)

[@FoxtrotGear]

Awesome! I can't wait till they are back in stock. I am not looking for a budget tent more so then a solid, lightweight tent for 2 people. I can't find another competitor with 20d or 30d silnylon and style on the market.

[@PrimeReal]

The bathtub floor has webbing loops on the short ends as well. I tie this back to the stake holding the 3rd and 4th trekking poles (or sticks). This keeps the tub taut. I’ve never seen any video mention these webbing loops, but they are there.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Sounds pretty cool but mine doesn’t have those. Maybe an updated version? Supposedly very similar changes to these I show are going into an updated version of the tent.

[@PrimeReal]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 oh you know what...I have the arches 1p. Maybe that is why? Everything else on mine is the same (footprint dyneema too short, ridegline too short ) . I had some other quality issues but Paria has addressed those concerns. Great customer service!

[@jimb6683]

Nice review... I am going to pull the trigger on one. Thx

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Nice, I don’t think you’ll regret it.

[@PrimeReal]

This was helpful .your pitch makes the tent look soo legit!

[@flymonk001]

Can you pitch it fly first? Deciding between this or the durston and that is a big factor for me.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Yes, you can do that (aka Fast pitch). 😊

[@flymonk001]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 thanks!

[@nigelgillard4690]

Hi great video with some good suggestions I'm going to try out...have you tried their quilts?. You mention your 6ft 5inch and the same and wanted a good quilt that would work for us tall people for winter?? Thanks

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Thanks for checking it out. I have not tried their quilts, wanted something lighter. I have a hammock gear top quilt and actually just make the regular length work. The long version would be nice but I like the one I got just fine! I rarely sleep like a mummy on my back which is the only time the quilt is stretched out.

[@TheMad106]

I bought this in 2021 and looked at your review back then. Their cord seems to hold pretty good on the line locks for me. Maybe they fixed it. I actually didn't need the shock cord as I inserted the tent's cord loop through the ground sheets loop before staking. So the groundsheet is never staked.

[@ericfricke4512]

Great stuff, thanks for sharing.

[@MegaMastiffman]

I definitely like it man the color too how is the water proofing and is it seam sealed? Great video thanks

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Thanks man! Yeah I’m a fan of the discrete color, and pretty unique. Water proofing is pretty good so far, seams were well sealed.

[@natehoover5266]

I'm planning to get the Xmid 2p when it's available but I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with this one for now because I have a trip planned in September. Thanks for the tips.

[@shaneb395]

did you end up getting both this and the xmid 2p? How do they compare? I also want an xmid 2p but don't want to wait and also it's double the cost of this tent. What's your opinion? I currently have a 5b freestanding NF stormbreak 2

[@natehoover5266]

@@shaneb395 I did finally get my hands on an Xmid 2p and just got back from a 4 day trip to the Cranberry Wilderness. The xmid is definitely better. Way easier to pitch, better designed (pockets, doors, layout) over a pound lighter and just plain cooler. But the Arches is a solid tent for what it is. It did well for over 100 miles in Colorado but I didn't have it in any bad weather.

[@peterdiebel7372]

Great ideas, but i think u need a loop on each side to pull the fly away from the tent body,eh, eh , . From Canada in case u didnt get it. Butt seriouly the way youve done it allows the fly to rub on the body of the tent. Just my humble opinion. Cheers , keep on campin.

[@claire820928]

Hi what do you mean? Are the trekking poles (the ones on the short side) not enough? I just bought the tent and would like to know how to set it up better! Thanks.

[@ancestraleater]

How's the setup in bad weather? Any experience? Thanks!

[@johnjefferies2527]

Appreciate the helpful mods. Thank you

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Glad you like them!

[@ari_bizarie]

Paria, pronounced "puh rye uh" after Paria canyon Utah. Thanks for the guide!

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Uh oh! I guess most people are pronouncing it wrong 😳

[@amyloumorgan9505]

I know this is an older video but is there a way to make this lighter? I can't find the weight of the stakes or ground sheet and do I even need the ground sheet? Any suggestions on weight would be greatly appreciated!

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Hey There! I actually have weight measurements for those... 5.4oz for the stakes (with bag) and 8.15oz for the ground sheet is what I got. You can use the tent without the groundsheet if you want, mostly just helps protect it and extend the life of the tent body. You can save a little weight by swapping out with MSR mini ground hog stakes but only saves about 0.1 oz per stake :) Hope this helps!

[@amyloumorgan9505]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 thank you so much!

[@marshalittau4605]

Thank you! I'd been searching for the right tent. My brother bought one of these. I liked it so much that I bought one. Problem was, we were making setup a two man job and not a good one. I wanted a 2 man because I hike with my dogs. After watching this I think I can pull setup off by myself with the tweaks you've recommended. Have you tried their sleeping bags? Lightening up there is my next step.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

You're more than welcome, glad it was helpful! I have not tried their sleeping bags. Based on specs they seem to be decent value for the money but are a little on the "heavy" side for down/hybrid bags. Personally, I've made the switch to top quilts which I really enjoy for tent camping and hammock camping. Hammock Gear has a great value top quilt, and I'm going to be doing a video pretty soon showing how to DIY your down top quilt from $40 down blankets. I would definitely look at down if you're looking to lighten up, and top quilts get you even lighter and don't have the issues with claustrophobia and trying to fiddle with the mummy zipper just to breath or reach out.

[@DAL201107]

I see that you used 4 trekking poles on this? IS there another way to create space without carrying 4 trekking poles on a 4 day back packing trip?

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Good question! Yes, for sure. What I've done when I'm not sharing the tent (and using both hiker's trekking poles) is to tie off to a nearby tree branch to pull the sides out/up, or find a stick to use instead of a poles for those sides. Hope this helps.

[@peckshadow]

Can this tent be packed up with screen and fly attached together?

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Yes it can, and makes for an easier pitch. That’s usually how I do it.

[@Zman-Outdoors]

Does it come with 1.5 Dyneema or is that what you upgrade to? On the sight they sell 1.5 Dyneema is this what I would need for the cordage replacement? www.pariaoutdoorproducts.com/collections/products/products/ultralight-dyneema-tarp-tent-guy-line

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

Hey there! I purchased that Dyneema from the link to use as longer cordage for the top guy-outs. You can also use it for longer loops on the ground sheet. The tent body and rain fly corners pair well with shock cord (1/4" or 3/32" diameter). I used Spectra glide line from Hammock Gear on the rain fly corners, but shock cord could be used there as well. The silpoly material of the rain fly will stretch a bit and shock cord helps to keep it tight.

[@Zman-Outdoors]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 thanks this all helps greatly, very detailed! I just noticed the links have all the cords you used. I think this tent will work for my backcountry scouting and hunting trips. It looks like it will and is versatile for multiple uses. Hopefully it will keep me dry as well. Thanks again.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

@@Zman-Outdoors Awesome. I've slept through rain in it and stays plenty dry, but I haven't taken it though heavy rain and winds. Seems to have plenty of coverage though and you can pitch the rain fly real close to the ground by lowering the pole height. Should be bone dry.

[@Gary-bp8si]

Thanks for the review - very helpful! I ordered mine. Where did buy the shock cord and glide line? I didn't see the links.

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

You can get them on hammockgear.com

[@Gary-bp8si]

Have you had this tent in cold weather? Would it be okay for winter camping?

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

@@Gary-bp8si I’ve used it below freezing into the high 20’s. It does well being double wall and you can raise up the outer to give a bigger air gap, so yes it works pretty well.

[@Gary-bp8si]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 Hey, I got my tent but I'm having issues getting the bathtub walls up and the inner sags a lot. I've got the lines to the sakes fairly tight. Your inner tent looks very tight. Did you have any problem? (BTW customer service, along with some help, referred me to your video since their tutorial isn't completed yet.)

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

@@Gary-bp8si did you replace the tent body cordage with shock cord? Since the material tends to stretch this keeps is nice and taught. You might also try a longer pole height to lift up the top and reduce the sagging.

[@PrimeReal]

Just curious ... does your extra line on the short sides actually help you that much with your pitch, or are you just that good at it ?

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

I think it helps, but you can probably just eye ball it and get about a 45 degree angle and get real close too.

[@PrimeReal]

@@patrickvandeventer6165 ya know that’s actually my concern. I cannot eyeball things to be even. I don’t have an eye for that, which makes me wonder if he extra lines will really help. I will certainly try the method once I get more line and see if I can tell a difference

[@danrookes5358]

Have you had a chance to test how waterproof this tent is yet??

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

I’ve had it in the rain, but admittedly not a super heavy downpour or high wind. Based on that I have zero concerns, the seams are well taped as it comes and the rain fly extends well beyond the tent body so it looks great for rain.

[@Vandbros1111]

cool

[@patrickvandeventer6165]

cool what?

[@Vandbros1111]

coo Tent

[@Vandbros1111]

you do not look 6 foot 5 more like 3 foot 4