Laowa Proteus 45mm vs. Atlas Orion 40mm

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I had the chance to compare the Atlas Orion to the Laowa Proteus 45mm amber version. A real competitor to other lenses in this category especially for this price!
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[@Grug86]

A terrific comparison test. Really helped to show the different character between the two lens. Thank you 🙏

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Thank you for your Feedback! 🙏🏼 I’m glad it helped you.

[@gnkstudios6138]

Love the proteus lens more. Seems to have way better more natural skin tones. Would love to get one of those beasts. I wonder how consistent the colors are from lens to lens. I trust that laowa has that under control but lens color shifts are definitely common in cine lens sets. Great review

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Thank you! Yeah that’s true i only had one to test, so i cant tell much about consistency. But they deliver very excellent quality especially for this price point.

[@ronineditor9920]

I just demoed all four of them, shot color charts, I haven't gotten too into the footage yet but just from a quick conversion grade, all the colors look spot on.

[@collinausbury]

Great video thanks so much. I think I prefer the Laowas.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Hey Causbury! Thanks for your feedback! I'm glad it helped you with your decision. They are both absolutely great lenses.💪🏼

[@elvisripley]

Its like the Proteus anamorpchics harder in every specific area but then when you have the comparisons the orion always seems so much more pleasant.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

It’s very hard to to tell. There is also the over all look and feel you’re right. I like the bokeh in the Proteus a lot more because it’s very oval and not so edgy. But the flairs on the Orions are more pleasant in my eyes. But if you consider the price points it gets even harder.😬

[@elvisripley]

@@Allinfilmmaker I’m leaning atlas mercury right now. Doesn’t squeeze as much but some how packs in the anamorphic qualities.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Okay yes it is interesting especially paired with 16:9 sensors, but i personally don’t like the distortion from the Mercury. It remembers me to a gopro with anamorphic characteristics :)😬 Maybe avoid the wider focal lenghts.😅

[@earnieboy54]

Quick correction. The front diameter is 114mm on both not 140mm. Just did a quick check on B and H. Good video though! Definitely interested in the Laowa lenses! 😊

[@Allinfilmmaker]

My bad i am pretty sure i sayed 114 but maybe thats my swiss slang😂🤪 But you’re right 114 is the standard for most cine lenses. ✌🏼

[@andyz_w3584]

wow, this is the most detailed and true comparions. apprecaite Bro. Laowa is the winner.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Thank you mate! Yes the Laowa is really an amazing lens, but i allready bought the Orion before the laowa exist so i have to use that.😁 But yes it’s definitely a unique lens!

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

Wow it’s light and day difference. When the mid stair shot kicks into Atlas around 4:36 it suddenly became stunningly cinematic.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Haha yes they are quite soft wide open at daytime. It looks amazing but it’s a pain to get subjects in focus. Moving subjects even more.

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

@@Allinfilmmaker Yes I’ve heard that from a few people now. How did your find it on the Laowas?

[@Allinfilmmaker]

I had the feeling that the Proteus is sharper wide open and also easier to get things in focus. In the creatively aspect the softness from the Orion can also be interesting. It depends on the project… And mostly you don’t shoot always wide open around T2.8 the Orion is sharper too. But why the Orion is in the nighttime sharper wide open compared to daytime i can’t figure out.😅

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

Sily question Hahha you just made a video about it (head palm slap)

[@Allinfilmmaker]

No problem mate keep calm there are no silly questions. But shortly said wide open the Proteus is sharper✌🏼

[@keplers_dog]

Very good comparison, I like your style. Feels engaging without being burdened by info. I just wanted to get a feel for the lenses - and this is exactly what you gave me. Thank you!

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Thank you mate really appreciate your feedback! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Tomas_and_liza]

laowa is slightly skewed / misaligned. vertical breathing looks very good on the proteus.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yeah you’re right the breathing is really great👍🏼

[@onlinetraderucom]

Proteus has the best flash character.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yes with the flashlight i think the atlas reacts a bit strange, but it was also a very strong flash light. But in the cars head light i like the Atlas more. I think it depends in wich exact angle the light falls in to the lens and how strong the light is.

[@ODHunte]

Interesting. There’s a mention of CA on the Proteus but not the Orion but in the video by FilmRiot there was quite clearly a lot of CA on the Orion and NOT the proteus. That was against a black and white focus chart. Probably worth checking that again..

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yeah i saw this too but what i noticed is the CA is only in very bright light sources. Also in the cars head light. But when it is focused properly then the CA in the Proteus is gone. In the most shots i can’t find any CA. In the atlas i never saw it, at least not so that i noticed something. But i generally also don’t shoot charts. 😬✌🏼

[@ODHunte]

@@Allinfilmmaker Ah ok cool. Yes against bright white you can really get some surprising results with some lenses. Nice job on the video.. Thanks for posting.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

@@ODHunte Thank you for you’re feedback really appreciate it.🙏🏼

[@NoSuRReNDeR001]

Yeah orioions wide open are BAD... CA --- you need to stop them down.

[@FilmJams]

Nice video! What’s up ?! it’s Christian from Film Jams 🎥🤙

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Thanks for watching and your sub mate! Really appreciate it🙏🏼 Haha yes tried to use the time with the lens as good as possible. Better than every workout.😬

[@FilmJams]

@@Allinfilmmaker of course buddy! Haha nice.

[@ronineditor9920]

7:41 -- Is that not CA on the Orions, on the right of the screen, on the "mesiter" sign's white letters? (Amazing video, by the way... and I love seeing Italy if I can't be there myself!!) Also, I was looking for the Proteus vs. the Atlas Mercurys, since they're pretty close in price but I never expected them to look this great compared to the Orion, which are much more expensive.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yes, it can happen that you see something CA. Imperfection is something that is visible with any anamorphic lens. I like both, but I bought the Orion before the Proteus was available =) Thanks for the kind feedback, I really appreciate it! =)

[@frankhu8692]

I just find these lenses to look similar, though the out of focus that atlas is less busy, and the flare characteristic is way more interesting and stylish

[@Allinfilmmaker]

You’re right the flairs look way smoother but the bokeh is more oval looking in the proteus the rest is nearly identical. The color rendering is also a bit different i noticed while testing but can be easily fixed in the grading process. Thanks for you comment and a great day!🙏🏼✌🏼

[@frankhu8692]

@@Allinfilmmaker as flares are way harder to mod or add, I'd consider it part of key style character

[@DastanZhumagulov]

Hmm, next to Atlas Orion I don't like how Laowa looks at all. Kind of dull, artificial looking horizontal flare and also feels like at close focus the squeeze ration changes to something like 1.5x . The last one is kind of a bummer because what I've always loved about anamorphics is that they make people look slimmer in the frame

[@Allinfilmmaker]

At the end it’s a matter of taste i am quite happy with my Orion exept for the bokeh sometimes it is too edgy or like a raindrop. The Laowa has really a beautiful bokeh but yeah im happy with the Atlas :)

[@johngallant3321]

Obviously both lenses have a little bit of focus breathing, but are they both also slightly changing the squeeze factor at different points during focus racking?

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yes every anamorphic lens has some breathing. But for anamorphic lenses they are very solid. Maybe a tiny bit but i never testet it with a chart. But never as heavy as some sirui anamorphics. 😬

[@blahblahblah2243]

the contrast and color is way superior in the atlas. As well as the flare. The Laowa flare looks like they just added a streak filter. It's so saturated and strong and ugly.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

The color in the Laowa was overall a bit cooler compared to the atlas. And yes i like the flairs also more on the Orion but the bokeh looks cleaner to me on the Laowa not so edgy if you know what i mean. ✌🏼

[@antoncommagere2789]

Yeah the skin tone and facial contrast stands out and looks much more pleasing on the Atlas.

[@appdata007]

Both are almost great looking...i feel colour is. More rendered better on Orion ...and a more warm and have filmic look and organic..if i hv to choose one i will choose atlas..

[@Allinfilmmaker]

I all ready owned the Orion but if i had to choose again today i can’t tell if i would buy it again with such alternatives. But you’re right the colors on the Atlas are warmer. But nothing you can’t correct in post. And yes it’s s definitely softer especially wide open. Thanks for sharing you’re opinion.👍🏼

[@jjenkk]

So no extender was used with the Proteus on the FX6? Or was the fx6 in s35 mode

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yes exactly neither on the Proteus as well not on the Orion. Around 05:25 you see the sensor coverage. It is enough to work with the FF sensor because you have to crop the sides anyway with the 16:9 sensor. If you need you can use clear image zoom to get more coverage.

[@jjenkk]

@@Allinfilmmaker sorry not quite sure I get your answer haha... so NO extender on the fx6? And fx6 was NOT in s35 mode? Sorry

[@Allinfilmmaker]

@@jjenkk sorry was i in hurry😂 yes it will work without extender in full frame mode.

[@ronineditor9920]

Does anyone know if there are any Proteus vs. Nanomorph tests...? I can't seem to find anything. I demoed both today and couldn't believe how nice they both were.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

I haven’t tested the Nanomorph lenses.. Mainly because i prefer the 2x squeeze over the 1.5x.😅

[@badzombie3942]

What do you think a budget camera can work well with this lens? Of all the options, I am currently considering only the canon r6 mark ii, because it can shoot video in 6k.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Hmm depends on your exact budget. And what else you want to shoot with it? Something like a Black magic 6k will work too. Its „cheap“ but there is no usable autofocus. Higher resolutions than 4k are only important if you have to deliver a final 4k file. I used it with the FX6 so it’s also only a 4k camera. So it really depends what else you want to do with the camera.

[@badzombie3942]

@@Allinfilmmaker Yes, I would like the final 4k. Although perhaps this is not important, and Sony Alpha a7 IV is suitable here. BMPCC 6K did not fit due to frequent requests for warranty among my friends.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

@@badzombie3942 sorry for the delay! Yeah i am mostly a sony shooter so i can’t give a lot of different inputs on other brands. I use also a A7IV and i think with that one you can work too. But there are a lot of things to consider if you are unsure about the right camera. Can give you only some factors which you have to choose at the end. Which color sience you prefer? Which resolusion you need? Which maximal framerate? You need a good Ibis? What glass you want to shoot with? Also PL mount? What kind of memory cards you have to buy when you get the cam and how expensive is it? You need the possibility to shoot in RAW? Haha and a lot more. If i had to buy a new budget cam today i probably would go with the A7IV. Hope this helped you✌🏼 And yes you’re right Pocket 6K is not the best build quality.

[@badzombie3942]

@@Allinfilmmaker Thanks! A7V is really the best choice right now. You can put up with 4k resolution, considering how many wonderful lenses you can install on the A7 IV. For example, 24-70 GM2, which has a higher bokeh quality than most manual lenses.

[@lionbeatscobra]

Do you think the atlas mercury would have been a better comparison?

[@FilmJams]

If you want to compare apples and oranges. Orion and Proteus are both 2x. Mercury is 1.5x. Totally different build and look.

[@lionbeatscobra]

@@FilmJams oh that's right. My bad.

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yeah it’s not the same squeeze so its difficult to compare. But it fits better for a 16:9 sensor that is a fact. I never had a mercury in my hands but i saw a lot of distortion. Remembers me to the gopro look.😬

[@rzdexyz]

.... the audio just ... hurts :(

[@Allinfilmmaker]

Yes sorry this room was not the best to record any audio.