Honda Civic Type R 2023 : le Nürburgring dans la dernière GTI thermique...

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L'argus

L'argus

Жыл бұрын

Embarquez dans la nouvelle Honda Civic Type R FL5 (329 ch, 420 Nm de couple), pour un tour de boucle nord du Nürburgring lors d'une session touristenfahrten.
Configuration : 100% d'origine
Pneus : Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Mode de conduite : "+R" et ESC off
Température extérieure : 6°C.
Puis retrouvez l'essai détaillé en accès libre sur www.largus.fr/actualite-autom...

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@largus
@largus Жыл бұрын
À votre avis, cette Civic Type R est elle une tueuse de Megane RS ? 🤔
@juliendiez6673
@juliendiez6673 Жыл бұрын
Eh oui ! Comme tu es secoué, j'étais mort de rire. Mais t'as pas l'air d'avoir eu des pertes de grip...
@overskryllsisilafamille6316
@overskryllsisilafamille6316 Жыл бұрын
Pense pas ..... Même les vieilles civique sont encore vivante .... Là où les veille Mégane sont mortes donc.... Le jour où Renault arrivera la cheville de Honda .... Je revend ma Jap direct...par contre dommage que Honda ce soit séparé du vtec
@MrToonfish
@MrToonfish Жыл бұрын
Et bien il faudrait peut-être commencer par faire un chrono validé et en prenant les repères de la Megane Rs Trophy… sans point de comparaison impossible de savoir. Sur papier la Civic est avantagée mais le châssis de la Megane est redoutable
@27wk81
@27wk81 Жыл бұрын
Oui, c'en est une.
@lordofkiwi5144
@lordofkiwi5144 Жыл бұрын
Ca a l'air très performant mais il y a des soucis de surchauffe de l'huile alors qu'il faisait 7°C et les suspensions semblent trop dur pour le nurburgring. L'ensemble est tout de même très attractif, moteur boite au top, bonne motricité et le design me plait.
@muharremcicek4548
@muharremcicek4548 Жыл бұрын
For a long time, i havent seen like this driving Very smooth, very gentleman, know what he does. Congratulations man...
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
We filmed the Wehrseifen slide from the outside: kzbin.infoa0c3moe07ks
@TheCaesarChris
@TheCaesarChris Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that I saw that KZbin short and read the comments to find this channel 😂
@largus
@largus Жыл бұрын
Thanks Misha for this nice outside view 😍
@darrenprior6339
@darrenprior6339 Жыл бұрын
Lift-off oversteer in a front wheel drive. It's a beautiful sight to behold. Outstanding driving my good man. A joy to watch.
@Bryce10011
@Bryce10011 Жыл бұрын
This is not lift off oversteer. This is the result of incorrect alignment. Way too much toe-out in the front (or not enough toe in) is causing the front of the car to turn in too much and throwing the rear into a slide. This is not a desirable thing. Any good driver experiencing this would immediately want to abandon the lap and change alignment.
@HexenmeisterProxyZwei
@HexenmeisterProxyZwei Жыл бұрын
@@Bryce10011 The engineers made it like that stock. For whatever its worth, I drove a faithful rendition of the FL5 CTR in Assetto Corsa and it drives exactly like this. I was absolutely stunned by what a pleasure it was to enjoy such smooth, predictable, confidence inspiring, lift off oversteer (especially for corner entry) in such a balanced handling platform that is possible with a well tuned FWD. Truly blissful.
@darrenprior6339
@darrenprior6339 Жыл бұрын
@@Bryce10011 give it up mate. You sound like you have never tried to have fun in a front wheel drive car. Just stop.
@nismo300zr2
@nismo300zr2 Жыл бұрын
@@Bryce10011 Try editing again 😅 Any good keyboard warrior would know he INTENTIONALLY flicked and slid the car to get it to rotate. Even not knowing french I can read that the car is in stock configuration. I guess all the honda engineers don't know performance alignment. 🙄
@Bryce10011
@Bryce10011 Жыл бұрын
@@nismo300zr2 My edit was correcting a misspelled word. I know that the description stated that the setup was factory - that doesn't mean that the alignment was good or correct for the track that he's on. If he "INTENTIONNALLY flicked" the car in that aggressively, then that is simply not good driving and that also does not constitute it to be lift-off oversteer. The rear end of the car is over-rotating on every single corner, on throttle or off. It's even doing it on highspeed sections with the throttle flat to the floor. It's plain to see that the toe is just not right for this road and his driving. Why are you even replying to my comment? You said nothing.
@Dewree69
@Dewree69 Жыл бұрын
BROTHER! The way this car oversteers on limit made me respect both you as a driver and the work Honda’s engineers have been putting into their Type Rs lately! What a ride!
@Bryce10011
@Bryce10011 Жыл бұрын
It's just his alignment. It's wrong for this track. Too much toe out (or not enough toe in) in the front is causing the front of the car to turn in too hard, throwing the rear out into a slide. It's not good driving. A good driver would immediately notice these bad things happening and want to change alignment.
@viniciusledesma
@viniciusledesma Жыл бұрын
@@Bryce10011 That's what i though too not a professional driving there just playing around with it but i wanna see the time on how fast it goes with proper driving, that Honda engine is a beast!
@Massakakanacke
@Massakakanacke Жыл бұрын
​@@Bryce10011 are you a paid actor of a different car brand? How often do you want to repeat the same thing in the comment section over and over again?
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
@@viniciusledesma The people complaining don't seem to have checked the ambient temperature in the gauge cluster. It's between 6 to 10 degrees Celcius (40-50 degrees in Farhenheit) -- no wonder there is no rear tyre temp! Those are borderline temperatures for summer tyres. I'm sure in normal conditions, 25 degrees Celcius, the rear tyres would come in and it wouldn't be oversteering so much. Or the driver could pit and swap the nice warm front tyres to the rear for the next lap. 🙂
@king-manu2758
@king-manu2758 Жыл бұрын
That third gear drift at 3:50 requires balls man.
@Little_Alesi
@Little_Alesi Жыл бұрын
Eine der absolut besten Runden, die ich je gesehen habe. Chapeau, ultra sauber und unfassbar gutes Gefühl für das Auto. Mega
@TheGlovedDriver
@TheGlovedDriver Жыл бұрын
Le Mozart du Nürburgring a encore frappé 👀
@supercarevocation
@supercarevocation Жыл бұрын
Quel pilotage ! Bravo ! Le passage où ça contre-braque sévère, chapeau !
@JimJuno
@JimJuno Жыл бұрын
This guy knows how to drive a FWD. I'm impressed. Such a smooth and clean driving style. Chapeau! 👌👌👌
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how some of those corners it looked RWD drifting
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Жыл бұрын
@@wanglee21 CTR is very neutral so with lifting off you can get the back end to go out and oversteer
@Vermonstered
@Vermonstered Жыл бұрын
It's astonishing to see just how many people in the comments section don't know what clean go fast driving is. Show me one timed race format you see this kind of overdriven driving? None. Because it's slow and terrible driving ya bunch of clowns.
@raikkonen804
@raikkonen804 Жыл бұрын
​@@Vermonstered Exactly this how you literally don't drive and I have being watching motorsport racing all my life just carrying way to much speed in every corner causing the car to do that.
@WanganTunedKeiCar
@WanganTunedKeiCar Жыл бұрын
@@raikkonen804 My god do you people not know what fun is? The driver is clearly having fun sliding the car around. Not every lap has to be max attack!
@somkhouan7742
@somkhouan7742 Жыл бұрын
Le talent du pilote qui exploite tout le potentiel de cette voiture 👍
@StefBelgium
@StefBelgium Жыл бұрын
Tu sais qu une traction, en travers, tu peux laisser le volant au neutre, elle reviendra d elle même avec un peu de gaz. Fans la dernière vidéo Rasso ouest avec l essai de la Megane RS, Yann le démontre à un moment dans la vidéo. Pour perdre le contrôle d une traction, faut vraiment y mettre du sien.
@christiangibert758
@christiangibert758 Жыл бұрын
Toujours aussi agréable à suivre tes essais. Encore bravo , à bientôt pour de nouvelles aventures.
@ronshowsyou2
@ronshowsyou2 Жыл бұрын
Still the problems with high oil temps. You can see it is serious because the oil pressure goes down as well. Imagine you are driving in hot conditions in summer ...On the other hand nice driving, nice oem setup on the car.
@CPMUNSEY
@CPMUNSEY Жыл бұрын
Great driving!! Loved how you were purposely provoking the rear end to come around. You are very in tune with that car.👌🏽🔥🔥
@MajorAMinor
@MajorAMinor Жыл бұрын
You really like to lift off oversteer 😅 That 3:48 min. save was top notch
@nismo300zr2
@nismo300zr2 Жыл бұрын
You really dont race a fwd huh? THeres no 'save' when the oversteer is intentional and clearly controlled.
@kuseiii_3845
@kuseiii_3845 Жыл бұрын
He flicked it to the right first then left to throw the weight to the right rise and make it kick out like that
@MajorAMinor
@MajorAMinor Жыл бұрын
@@nismo300zr2 intentional or not, you have to save it
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe it, they somehow made a fwd hatch that can oversteer and drift
@xtrekrex
@xtrekrex Жыл бұрын
@@shivamarya5225 yeah no kidding. This thing almost doesn’t drive like an FWD.
@stephaneserra5608
@stephaneserra5608 Жыл бұрын
Absolument magnifique Comme d’hab à bloc Quel coup de volant Chapeau ❤
@mickat620
@mickat620 Жыл бұрын
Le mec derrière le volant gère vraiment, ça c'est du pilotage
@FruehSteffen
@FruehSteffen Жыл бұрын
My great respect for this fast lap 👍👍
@fan2lexus
@fan2lexus Жыл бұрын
Sacré pilote 😮👍👌
@alexgutierrez7029
@alexgutierrez7029 Жыл бұрын
El mejor Max Verstappen 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@inlinesoarer
@inlinesoarer Жыл бұрын
Love his drifting skill !! 😮🙌
@someyoungguyjohnson7239
@someyoungguyjohnson7239 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a properly driven FL5.
@k.richard2775
@k.richard2775 Жыл бұрын
Very nice drive, I would say the fk8 record , 7:43 is possible with this fl5 car. I use my fl5 in invidual mode ,every Setting is R+ ,just the Suspension is comfort. I see ,here on the Nürburgring bumping in some Corners. Very nice driven 👌
@didierligonnet3651
@didierligonnet3651 Жыл бұрын
Super coup de volant magnifique et merci , par moment on dirais des double corps (carburateur) vers 5700 tmn super auto
@terryfk8828
@terryfk8828 Жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰👍👍un kiffe votre pilotage 😊
@jamsxr
@jamsxr Жыл бұрын
Great video, awesome drive, what a car! The carousel looked bumpy in R mode 😬
@BinaryReplicant
@BinaryReplicant Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Everywhere is bumpy in R mode. 🙂
@Pahang.bend17
@Pahang.bend17 Жыл бұрын
Honda "quality" product. Keep buying econo boxes with some coilovers and a suped up 4 cylinder and call it track ready lol
@jamsxr
@jamsxr Жыл бұрын
@@Pahang.bend17 tell me what’s better? I love these internet experts who don’t have a clue
@gt-r9035
@gt-r9035 Жыл бұрын
He drove in +R, dampers are stiffer then.
@jamsxr
@jamsxr Жыл бұрын
@@gt-r9035 yep, I know that. I’ve got an FL5, my first track day tomorrow.
@D666XXX
@D666XXX Жыл бұрын
What a drive man!
@willseal582
@willseal582 Жыл бұрын
Ça marche super fort je ne m'attendais pas à autant!! le comportement chassis à l'air très équilibré, stable et rassurant, mais elle se place superbement bien et enroule à merveille ! magique mais beaucoup trop cher élas.....
@julius2353
@julius2353 Жыл бұрын
you are crazy. what an intense drive
@emileportejoie2862
@emileportejoie2862 Жыл бұрын
Ce talent ! 🥵 Félicitations une fois encore !
@Magic_Vince
@Magic_Vince Жыл бұрын
wow the chassis balance looks amazing
@infidel900rr
@infidel900rr Жыл бұрын
Awesome driving, look like fun!! 👍
@lsvlestudiovaillant5223
@lsvlestudiovaillant5223 Жыл бұрын
Quel pilote !!! ❤️
@rg92
@rg92 Жыл бұрын
Superbe vidéo !!!
@paulo41000
@paulo41000 Жыл бұрын
Je me lasserai jamais de ce coup de volant 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Bon Dieu, par contre qu’est-ce que ça sautille ?
@franckdebzh7608
@franckdebzh7608 Жыл бұрын
Oui dans l'article lié à cet essai sur piste, le journaliste avait dit que les suspensions étaient beaucoup trop fermes pour un tracé aussi bosselé que le Nurb'.
@valentingarampon3679
@valentingarampon3679 Жыл бұрын
Il aurait été judicieux de laisser l’amortisseur en confort pour le nurb 😁
@zoobi27
@zoobi27 Жыл бұрын
R comme... "RHAAAA mais qu'est ce que ça fait mal au cuuuuuuuuuuuul ! lol
@alexgutierrez7029
@alexgutierrez7029 Жыл бұрын
Max verstappen en el volante ✔️🔥🔥🔥
@Benbi13
@Benbi13 Жыл бұрын
y'a du marsouinage 😆
@JeanYvesDubost
@JeanYvesDubost Жыл бұрын
Enorme la portion vers 5' ! 😱🤩
@billx4266
@billx4266 Жыл бұрын
You have the life, a dream job!
@MrLeccyt
@MrLeccyt Жыл бұрын
Awesome lap!!
@MiKo-hy3iy
@MiKo-hy3iy Жыл бұрын
That's real stuff , man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ontheotherside3
@ontheotherside3 Жыл бұрын
well done, sir! 👏🏻
@Banana-Joe007
@Banana-Joe007 Жыл бұрын
Good Work man👍
@issamvtec5731
@issamvtec5731 Жыл бұрын
Un plaisir infini
@ludocattin2788
@ludocattin2788 Жыл бұрын
Le circuit est bien bosselé. Le pilote est sacrément secoué. Il ne faut pas avoir mangé une fondue juste avant le run. 😂
@vicp8772
@vicp8772 Жыл бұрын
Yes that's a Honda. With a good driver and tires. 6 sp all the way, no ctvs or ev crap
@BrendonHo
@BrendonHo Жыл бұрын
2:46 u legend! instant like
@marcusmarcus1604
@marcusmarcus1604 Жыл бұрын
merci .Mathieu
@gaeltuloup3879
@gaeltuloup3879 6 ай бұрын
Quel pilote 👌
@albundy7086
@albundy7086 Жыл бұрын
Moi passager faut changer le siège...La vache, ça c'est du pilotage !
@edhirxtrastrange
@edhirxtrastrange Жыл бұрын
You made it look like easy. Insane
@dandaman4985
@dandaman4985 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@davraf42
@davraf42 Жыл бұрын
Enfin un vrai pilote sur le nurb !! Tenue de route superbe qui engage au lever de pied et n'ai pas traite au contre braquage, ça me rappelle la tenue de route de ma ZX et son train arrière autodirectionnel. Par contre, une Honda dont le moteur s'arrête à 7000 trs/min, ben c'est pas une Honda !!
@ivan73ivan73
@ivan73ivan73 Жыл бұрын
mom Honda has created another masterpiece. But I still prefer the naturally aspirated K20. congratulations to the driver who did a great lap
@racingtheweb
@racingtheweb Жыл бұрын
Very good driving mate, I like it 😀👍
@sergiogustavo1751
@sergiogustavo1751 Жыл бұрын
Tocou muito, Titio. Animal!!
@nismo300zr2
@nismo300zr2 Жыл бұрын
masterful rotation initiation 💪 i have to put shet tires on the back of my pulsar to get it that loose.
@marcelprata
@marcelprata Жыл бұрын
Nice video men!
@gbitsbitsg5447
@gbitsbitsg5447 Жыл бұрын
Uffff nice driving!!!
@MrDJX31
@MrDJX31 Жыл бұрын
magnifique
@CrxBreizh
@CrxBreizh Жыл бұрын
Belle démonstration du potentiel de cette Type R 😀
@jaboticaba4005
@jaboticaba4005 Жыл бұрын
Le petit leon jaune mazout😂😂
@011either9
@011either9 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!😁
@lauriedooker1031
@lauriedooker1031 Жыл бұрын
Largus may not be the fastest way to drive but he alway shows the most fun way to drive . I love his nuts in the throat liftoff oversteering . 👍🇦🇺❤️ my favourite driver .👍🇦🇺
@damianyson8806
@damianyson8806 Жыл бұрын
Well done, you feel great car world driving more videos like this write how the new Typer R is doing on the track greetings fan of the brand.🙂
@chinjistatham1803
@chinjistatham1803 Жыл бұрын
Journaliste et au même temps pilote affûté! Chapeau...
@gabrielvanya8245
@gabrielvanya8245 Жыл бұрын
7:49 BTG, amazing drive with an amazing car.
@Eben-Victorious
@Eben-Victorious Жыл бұрын
Quand certains disent que la Civic Type R n'est pas assez mobile de l'arrière... C'est qu'ils doivent juste hausser le rythme ! Personnellement je préfère une traction avec un train arrière costaud, car cela permet justement d'y aller franco en entrée de courbe.
@kayzenl7911
@kayzenl7911 Жыл бұрын
Sauf que sur le chrono, un mec qui maîtrise le train arrière baladeur, il ira plus vite que vous
@bob-fk2ep318
@bob-fk2ep318 Жыл бұрын
Je confirme faut la brusquer
@bob-fk2ep318
@bob-fk2ep318 Жыл бұрын
dans les courbes elle ne bouge pas ya que dans le sinueux qu'elle est joueuse surtout à la décélération..mais des entre courbe à 180 ça ce fais le coude à la portière
@Eben-Victorious
@Eben-Victorious Жыл бұрын
@@kayzenl7911 Pas encore croisé ce genre de mec... 😉
@adnoHis1
@adnoHis1 Жыл бұрын
What a car!, What a driver!
@julienb906
@julienb906 Жыл бұрын
Avec la megane RS, 2 merveilles ❤
@belmon125
@belmon125 Жыл бұрын
Original suspensions or coilovers? If so, what spring rates? Very nice driving by the way, car likes to slide and rotate, fun on an FF car 😊😊
@olivierc1624
@olivierc1624 Жыл бұрын
Elle me plait cette Honda Civic!
@ionuttudorache7308
@ionuttudorache7308 Жыл бұрын
Hard like a bone !
@monkeyla1967
@monkeyla1967 Жыл бұрын
PS4S ! Wow! You are amazing fast!
@przemek1919
@przemek1919 Жыл бұрын
PS4s on the rears really struggle with the traction, I guess you can't fire them up in those conditions on Nurbugring. Car looks so nicely balanced tho, controllable oversteer when lifting of and turning.
@Marineavp
@Marineavp Жыл бұрын
Nice track, nice driving, nice car!!!
@samcoatham2400
@samcoatham2400 Жыл бұрын
Insane skills behind the wheel
@maxreportage
@maxreportage Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ Ça semble ferme en châssis !
@adim00lah
@adim00lah Жыл бұрын
Awesome driving my guy! I hope I can get that good one day.
@automagni
@automagni Жыл бұрын
Nice! Good to see the car on the ring. Crazy how a FWD car can oversteer like that. Why do the flashers come on during that run?
@pokest225
@pokest225 Жыл бұрын
The car´s sensors detect a risky situation and activate the flashers to warn the other drivers. For example, hard braking.
@Erikootje
@Erikootje Жыл бұрын
its just from hard breaking, every car has it sold in the EU market, dunno about North American safety standards tho
@JJ-mc8lu
@JJ-mc8lu Жыл бұрын
A better lap time would have resulted with less sliding. Smooth driving may look slower but always gets a better lap time!
@607.z33
@607.z33 Жыл бұрын
Feels a little excessive here like it's for show or overdriving. Would def like to see a smooth lap for comparison
@biznatch1791
@biznatch1791 Жыл бұрын
A top tier driver showing the world how to drive, being both fast and entertaining, and people still think they have to teach him how to drive. What a world. Please show us in your next video how to do it better. I cannot wait.
@607.z33
@607.z33 Жыл бұрын
@@biznatch1791 relax
@drazenbudis7881
@drazenbudis7881 Жыл бұрын
I didnt see him recording the laptime.
@chipone10
@chipone10 Жыл бұрын
Honda Power!!
@samuelgomez3311
@samuelgomez3311 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Sentis, each video is more interesting than the previous one. Great driving mate!
@afterburn2600
@afterburn2600 Жыл бұрын
"Little old lady owned car for sale. Single owner. Well maintained." The car: (fun lap - and I'm very glad the car is being used as intended)
@natifgwada
@natifgwada 11 ай бұрын
Terriblement efficace cette Honda Civic Type R 2023, le pilotage on sait tous déjà👍🏼, à voir en tour chronométré avec une Magane RS😋
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 Жыл бұрын
First Type R that handle good as Focus ST :D
@robinw944
@robinw944 Жыл бұрын
Its insane what performance this car provides, but exaclty that makes me miss a good awd even more just imagine the moves you could make when sliding in the car that way and have a nice awd system to go full trottle power sliding out of the corners
@fabricec7819
@fabricec7819 Жыл бұрын
Top! La voiture semble bien répondre au levé de pied.
@MichaelKleinYT
@MichaelKleinYT Жыл бұрын
i Really like your videos! can you do drives in old cars aswell?
@franckyves7502
@franckyves7502 Жыл бұрын
J'aime bien cette conduite "dynamique" 😁. ça a l'air bien raide comme voiture.
@hugobourgeais5743
@hugobourgeais5743 Жыл бұрын
je confirme que c'est bien tape cul
@Xav_S
@Xav_S Жыл бұрын
La raideur du châssis dépend des réglages de la suspension. Au lieu d'être en dureté max, il aurait dû choisir la position intermédiaire. C'est justement la force de la Civic d'avoir des suspensions réglables depuis l'habitacle.
@nathankendall3467
@nathankendall3467 Жыл бұрын
Savage!
@YasssStitch
@YasssStitch Жыл бұрын
Proper driving.
@angelomelis9464
@angelomelis9464 Жыл бұрын
Sei un mago!!!!
@jpspider
@jpspider Жыл бұрын
Didn´t know those seats could accommodate such huge balls
@omarr6021
@omarr6021 Жыл бұрын
great car and great driver
@henriqueviola1413
@henriqueviola1413 Жыл бұрын
Top driver 😎👍💪
@eddohan
@eddohan Жыл бұрын
One of few Civic Type R with rear wheel steering!
@LawnMower-jv8hg
@LawnMower-jv8hg Жыл бұрын
This is what real driving is, not that street racing shit people do.
@amaurydekerros7536
@amaurydekerros7536 Жыл бұрын
Ca envoie du pâté 🙂
@pugsley2249
@pugsley2249 Жыл бұрын
The interior look mint to me
@kifran42
@kifran42 Жыл бұрын
J'ai longuement hésité à acheter une megane rs trophy voir cette nouvelle civic. Mais je viens de passer à autre choses. Le malus c'est trop pour moi. J'ai regardé du côté de andorre et du Luxembourg mais c'est la misère en vrai. Ça fout vraiment les boulles
@alexg475
@alexg475 Жыл бұрын
You don't need RWD to induce oversteering. You can achieve it from the suspension setup. With a stiffer anti-roll bar in the back. I think this is the solution Honda employs on the FL5 CTR. It gives better/sharper turn-in.Yes it looks spectacular, fun but snapping like this on the public road is a crash waiting to happen. Even with my FK8 type R on twisty roads, driven a bit spirited and asphalt slightly moist(like in the video) I had some snap oversteering when going a bit downhill. I don't want to imagine what would have been in a FL5 CTR, it's really dangerous.
@sesh3508
@sesh3508 Жыл бұрын
I saw the intro drift on Micha Charoudins channel haha
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