Larry Summers and the Winklevoss twins Scene from The Social Network

[@ivanpb1983]

What I love about Aaron Sorkin's screenplays is that he portrays a world where everyone is smart and has awesome lines.

[@JoshLavian]

In rapid fucking fire.

[@teddykgb3865]

I'm amazed he was able to write an entire screenplay without using his "Don't talk to me like I'm other people" line.

[@georgeofhamilton]

That's true for a lot of movies.

[@andohish27]

And everyone, and I mean everyone, is a snide asshole. Lol

[@alexneill8338]

It's world where every single character is a snarky, arrogant, condescending asshole who's determined to get the cleverest quip and the most stinging rebuttal. It's immensely satisfying to listen to!

[@Christopher_TG]

Best part was the real Larry Summers was asked about this scene and he said that it was very accurate to what happened in the meeting.

[@Captain_Beemo_]

Christopher G the dumbass, questioned the idea’s values at millions of dollars, now facebook is worth billions.

[@latinolawdog5067]

I don’t doubt that for one second. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Summers on multiple occasions. Guy is pretty full of himself, which is excatly the type of person needed to lead a university of people full of themselves (as the Winklevii obviously were).

[@omalor]

Of course he would say that, this scene makes him look good.

[@waterywingz]

Truth ☝️

[@frankmiranda707]

Except he never told anyone to punch him in the face 😂😂😂😂

[@clarencepeterson8646]

"Darkness is the absence of light and stupidity is the absence of me."

[@MasterManto]

"Ann, punch me in the face. Go ahead."

[@CalamityFrost]

Mak Manto yes sir

[@andReChristosHelios]

Stupidity of that instance was the absence of me ...

[@TRUMPTYTEENT]

"Inventing a job is better than finding a job." 💡

[@wholelottapain8130]

Entrepreneurship is key to success 💡

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

Peter Theil knows that more than anyone. Lol

[@ALTINSEA1]

@@Ashbash-kf5xd zero to one

[@walkermorgan1710]

Everyone at Harvard is inventing something these days

[@nazabn4990]

Maybe they haven't learned or realised that there wouldn't be $1,000 or $1 Million without $1..

[@InkAndPoet]

I love how the "punch me in the face" interruption was all it took to indicate that this was not going to end in their favor.

[@tylerhungerpiller410]

And then the look that Anne gave them afterwards, as if to say "Not going so well, huh?"

[@cdleveille]

"We're sitting in chairs." LOL

[@azeeminator]

Never understood what he meant by saying that.

[@vertie2090]

@@azeeminator the secretary told them to be careful not to break anything. He was like "how could we break anything when all we do is sitting on chairs"

[@azeeminator]

@@vertie2090 Alright. Well he does break the doorknob at the end.

[@Eyeofthetiger69]

@@vertie2090 No. The joke is that the secretary told them the "building's older than the country's in", yet they're sitting in chairs. Even Tyler joked about it with the 335 year old doorknob remark.

[@Taxx4snaxx]

Luis Fedalizo that makes no sense.. lol. The joke is that they can’t break anything because they’re “sitting in chairs” (Armie Hammer voice).

[@NicolasLopez-gy5rg]

Larry: so you're saying I don't know the difference between right and wrong ? Twin 1: no I didn't say that Twin 2: I'm saying that ! 😂😂👌🏻

[@chrishernandez3699]

Man, Aaron Sorkin really outdid himself with this script

[@NicolasLopez-gy5rg]

+Chris Hernandez yes he did

[@NicolasLopez-gy5rg]

+Benny1642 I thought it was so funny

[@TheDarkPrincex]

Armie Hammer is a boss

[@Zanderthegrape]

that's how me and my triplet brothers are lol

[@joejohn.]

I can't get enough of this dialogue. I recite it in the shower.

[@28bits20]

And you memorized it instead of doing what?

[@Mio248]

lol No offense to you, Joe, but that shit was funny.

[@studiompodcastnetwork5119]

No fucking joke, I do the same thing when I'm warming up my voice to record lines of dialogue!

[@aliahmacatumpag6163]

whoa, wierd!

[@randomguy6679]

Mark A. Valdez good choice

[@tuns18]

Summers was one of the ones responsible for the deregulation of the financial industry, which basically led to the 2008 Financial Crisis, so he really IS NOT in any position to make that call... LMAO

[@kenllacer]

This = Truth

[@NiVi192]

Hmmm...Allright, I just wanted to give it a try but in fact I don't have anything to counter! That's a really good point!!

[@jonnemesis11]

With such a condescending attitude Im not surprised.

[@DevKulkarni]

tuns18 lol! exactly! Pompous ass :-/

[@ClueSign]

Also responsible for saying women don't belong in the sciences. And forced to resign as President of Harvard. Colossal douchebag and criminal.

[@tomsurber2293]

The dialogue coming out of Summers in this scene is Sorkin at his very best and I loved it! "And you memorized that instead of doing what?" LMAO!!!

[@cassandrachayakhan1519]

+Tom Surber Also: "I'm sorry, president Summers, but what you just said makes no sense to me at all." "I'm devastated by that." :D

[@georgeofhamilton]

I mean, someone like Cameron might be able to remember all that just by reading it a few times before meeting with Summers.

[@gentilegrief]

I think what was meant here and so many have missed, is that Sorkin was actually demonstrating the gulf between a sincere, boyscoutish, gentile earnest belief in rules having real meaning vs. the oily talmudism (anything means what it needs to mean for now) of someone like Summers. I'd actually describe the whole scene as stridently anti-semitic.

[@dbjkatz]

@@gentilegrief ? I think you watched this scene way too many times LOL. It boils down to this: for anyone who has a cool idea for an invention. 1) Get the ball rolling on a patent application 2) Demand that anyone working on said invention signs a contract/confidentiality agreement. This has everything to do with business the world over and contract law. These concepts are discussed in the Talmud and many other legal codes. Please point out the Anti-Semitic part in this scene.

[@drose6437]

@@gentilegrief I usually don't answer comments that are more than a year old, but what you just wrote is completely insane. Why would aaron sorkin who is jewish himself write an anti-semitic screenplay? Also, why did you equate someone who is a bit sleazy with jewishness, it doesn't make sense really.

[@major356]

"I don't know but by the looks of it they want to sell me a brooks' brothers franchise" lol

[@demam41]

Love how the brothers are complete opposites. One is all about politeness and appropriateness, the other is all about getting right to the point and saying it how it is

[@SilverShade1008]

Love the symbolism of the doorknob. Harvard is centuries old, which comes with such historical weight and importance. But the age has made it delicate and unable to cope with how fast technology and business is evolving. The world can't keep up with how quickly the people who live on it are moving.

[@Miamicop100]

+SilverShade1008 You got that from a doorknob! You sir made yourself look brilliant, out of my pov.

[@rochestas]

I didn't catch that. Thanks for the enlightenment!

[@thomasdrzik5299]

+LightCan most come from stanford

[@RBGUERILLA]

Symbolism my ass, you went to way to deep on that one.

[@georgeofhamilton]

+Matthew Williams Your idiotic comment is not so much an observation as it is, well, a fit of idiocy.

[@redwood9992]

the way he said “you chased him?!” 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewburgemeister6684]

I know, hilarious. “I have to deal with these two idiots and they said they chased the poor student!!”

[@Eyeofthetiger69]

Turns out Cameron was right that they looked like skeletons chasing the Karate Kid.

[@Lion-mu1lp]

Every teacher ever when there is a conflict. Does absolutely nothing.

[@OrphanedZombie]

The script did a good job of making one twin very careful and patient and the other more rude and blunt. This was done with the consistent contrast of their dialogue.

[@dbjkatz]

“Please. Arrive at the point”. LOL

[@Mr_Droop257]

In this scene you could look at from both sides of the spectrum. On one hand the Winklevosses did try to handle the situation by going to the Harvard president at the lowest possible level. While on the other hand, Mr. Summers did introduce a valid point when he stated that this situation should be handled legally, in a court room, and not with the president of Harvard. The twins also should not have expected any special treatment because of the connections they had prior to this meeting. However, I understand their frustration at starting a completely new project that they had claimed to have worked hard on, so on that note, I do empathize with the Winklevosses and their efforts.

[@darkmagician2521]

I know this is late, but I don't empathize with those two and their 'efforts". How long does one complain about the failure of one project even if you thought it would would bring you lots of money? And their "efforts" are nothing. They are only financial backers who probably know so little of computer science and technology fields and wasted their time on being distracted with stupid rowing instead of knowing what they are investing their money in. Like what Larry Summers practically implies to them that says "Move on you idiots. Don't let one minor setback no matter how big you think it is get to you. Don't treat this as if your life depends on it because it does not." Even though Steve Wozniak probably did not know much of financial matters, he had Steve Jobs helping out so Wozniak can work on building the computers while Jobs deals with the financial matters. For Jobs himself, it feels he has the vision in his mind even though he does not have the skills and knowledge causing those who have the knowledge and skills to not think he is not worthy just because he can't build something himself. Jobs and Wozniak are like the perfect team covering each other's weaknesses, but still excel with their strengths that has carried the Apple company to this day. The Winklevoss twins could not pull of what Wozniak and Jobs let alone Bill Gates and Michael Dell have done for the world of computers with their companies of Apple, Microsoft, and Dell. Of course, there are others to include, but one can only list so many.

[@270MOX]

@@n3h3m Still, they just left Mark to do as he pleased. You don't hire an electrician to do the job and don't supervise it. Even if you don't know anything about it, you need to supervise it and ask any question about the process. The twins could have sent their friend Divya to supervise, to insist, etc.. Even better: they could have made him sign a contract. Well, that ended pretty well, just like that person who paid thousands of dollars to a painter and what he did was just leaving it blank

[@matthewalexanderlemma8000]

According to the book, "The Accidental Billionaires," this is exactly how the meeting went between Larry Summers and the Winklevoss' with Summers not giving two you-know-whats about their complaint. Quite possibly the best scene in "The Social Network"!

[@frankmiranda707]

He got everything right, except for the “punch me in the face” part 😂😂😂😂

[@krishopson9214]

Perhaps the most well written scene by Aaron Sorkin. Plus, the acting by Armie Hammer and Douglas Urbanski is some of the best in cinema, and the special effects of replacing Josh Pence is really top notch as well since you can't tell at all that Armie is not a twin. Fun fact: The real Larry H. Summers called the film's portrayal of his meeting with the Winkelvoss twins "fairly accurate". He went on to say "I've heard it said that I can be arrogant. If that's true, I surely was on that occasion. One of the things you learn as a college president is that if an undergraduate is wearing a tie and jacket on Thursday afternoon at three o'clock, there are two possibilities. One is that they're looking for a job and have an interview; the other is that they are an asshole. This was the latter case. Rarely, have I encountered such swagger, and I tried to respond in kind."

[@kevincorrigan1754]

And that is why Larry summers is a complete dipshit who still hasn’t learned to not be an arrogant know it all prick

[@vanessalindsley7221]

@@kevincorrigan1754 For real... They weren't being assholes at all. Just seeking justice where no one else was giving it

[@dbjkatz]

@@vanessalindsley7221 The dean reminded them that courts / lawsuits adjudicate cases like this. In general, if a patent was not filed, no IP theft took place. Any lawyer would spell that out.

[@sergeanttentacles1359]

Or they were wearing a suit and tie to look professional?! He’s the asshole!

[@NickGranger85]

2:30 - Yep they were wrong, the idea was worth billions!

[@NYG1991]

And now Mark Zuckerberg is just that. Worth billions!

[@soccerlovin1]

+Nick Granger Just tens of billions

[@NESherv]

+NYG1991 But he's still an asshole.

[@NESherv]

NYG1991 I must have missed the memo on when being a billionaire became important than being a good person.

[@NYG1991]

+NESherv Good person or not he still has a billion dollars and you don't.

[@huethen5454]

So the same guy that (indirectly) causes the great recession fail to understand the potential of a new technology, hardly surprising here.

[@dbjkatz]

This happened circa 2003...5 years before the great recession. Plus, a university based website is not predestined to take the world by storm. Google had only been around for 4 years at that point.

[@kugashira1018]

The doorknob is my favorite part of this scene :p

[@daniyalshah1503]

lol yes

[@dominic1297]

Is anyone at all not in complete awe...of how good looking Armie Hammer is......and nOW THERES 2 OF HIM!!!

[@roseminne]

No Kyungsoo No Life 😂😍😍😍

[@blelo9776]

Man i totally agree 🤣🤣

[@TJScruggs]

INSANELY!!

[@HankuGautam]

when i first saw the movie, i really thought he had a twin brother in real life. i was awestruck by seeing two extremely identical hot guys. later i found out he was one and the one and only Armie Hammer!!,

[@Tay-wj9et]

+Hanku Gautam It's tragic, imagine if there really was two of him!

[@aloneanonymousartist]

Armie Hammer? As in the one who played Oliver in Call me by your name? He's more hotter here.

[@yl4521]

IF ONLY HE WERE THIS YOUNG WHEN HE FILMED CALL ME BY YOUR NAME WITH TIMOTHEE CHALAMET - SO HANDSOME + TALENTED !!

[@vilentman111]

Careful. You'll end up in Armie's oven on a slow cook with an onion in your mouth

[@LPJack02]

Let me break it down for you to understand how they did it. In this scene specifically Armie did both parts so what they would do kind of lock off the camera and he would do one and another actor named Josh Pence would be doing the other twin and then Armie would switch and change wardrobe and hair and go do the other one but anytime the twins had to touch each other or interact with each other then there would be Josh and they would kind of do this thing together and then they would later put Armie's face onto Josh's face as they were shooting. Back then during the casting, Armie and Josh Pence both got hired to play the twins, the casting crew said to them "you know you guys are going to be the Winklevoss twins" and they were like "yeah brothers, let's do this, this is great" and after about a week of rehearsals they got called into the director David Fincher's office and he was like "look these guys have to be identical twins it's such a huge pivotal part of their storyline, it doesn't work if they're not identical so Armie you're gonna play both twins and Josh we have to put dots on your face so that we can put Armie's face on top of yours". So Josh sat there for a moment and internalised this blow and then just said "okay, well you know whatever we need to do to make the movie better and I'm here to do it" and that's how that came to be

[@davidmetcalf2844]

Great scene teeming with elitist pomposity from all parties involved. The genius is that President Summers is both right and wrong. He is right that this dispute was a legal, not ethical, issue that should not be resolved through the university disciplinary process. But he was wrong, dead wrong, in appraising the economic value of social media. It goes to show how out of touch the best academic institutions were with the revolution accomplished by their own students--and how those students would accomplish that revolution outside of the classroom. This was a HUGE deal, and not even a former US Secretary of Treasury could realize it.

[@TheLongWind]

LightCan David Metcalf has a well articulated statement that seems fairly accurate based on the fact that this scene did take place in reality and did follow very closely to what really happened. Of course there will be differences between them and you are correct in pointing that out, but calling him "dipshit" just devalues your cause. Awesome comment Metcalf!

[@davidmetcalf2844]

Brett Fields Thanks Brett! An insightful, supportive, and considerate comment on a KZbin forum! There is hope in this world!

[@NcxX-c8f]

@nationwidebw It is both a legal and ethical issue.

[@tylerhungerpiller410]

Agree. Love the writing in this scene.

[@vgcq02]

And you memorized that instead of doing what?

[@michaelbyrne5606]

An incubated gem of drama that lends itself to strong debate on both sides of the table. Personally, I'm with the Winklevosses in this one. They took preliminary measures, referred to the strictures in the manual, and made a strong case. Whether or not Summers felt there was anything he personally could do, here he's shown being completely disrespectful and disdainful throughout. He cares more about his superfluous lunches and appointments than a significant case of students wanting him to show Harvard's investment in its students. Here, he clarifies his "inspirational" speech as "do it, but just don't bother me in the process because I have far too many things in my career to muster even a little bit of care." Because I respect Cameron's character dignity, I'm going to take the liberty of composing a hypothetical closing monologue: Cameron: Mr. Summers, if you feel that this appointment was a waste of your time, which your behavior makes apparent...I can apologize if there's a personal crisis that's troubling you over this. But in turn, I want you to know you've wasted our energy in turn. You prop yourself up as a kindler of innovation and success, and than scoff and snort when your audience comes to you because they feel their paths towards those have been jeopardized. If you had mustered one specific recommendation after our facts, even if there was nothing your office could do, I would've appreciated that, because that would've at least done your precious façade some credit of kindness. But if your dismissal means anything...it means that faces and voices have lost their value amidst years of pretending that you care about them. So you go ahead and return to your masturbatory scheduling the lunches after this week's lunches. You're...welcome to indulge yourself. But we're fully entitled to NOT do the same. Harvard's community is going to hear the details about this meeting...and then we'll see if next year's commencement warrants applause or tomatoes. Good day, Caesar."

[@darkmagician2521]

I am sorry. The Winklevoss twins should not have used their father's connections to get a meeting. They could have waited like others for an appointment for the President of Harvard who has to deal with more than just disciplinary actions. All they did was be impatient and decided to cut in line to have a meeting just because they did not get what they want. If this was high school, that would be fine. But this is college no matter if the college is private or public let alone Ivy League or not. College is where things are a little more serious where you have to let go of some things instead of thinking you are so entitled to whatever you want. High school is fine as long as there is not much of a grudge, but with college, do not have a grudge because you don't stay in college for more than 4-8 years unlike K-12. Just like in the Paramore song Ain't it Fun: You're not the big fish in a pond no more.

[@rapbattlefan2008]

I know this is late but the Winklevoss twins did not use their father’s connections in THIS specific case. President Summers had Friday afternoons specifically set aside for office hours and meetings with students. The twins also went in many weeks in a row before finally getting an opportunity to speak with the president. That woman Anne (who is the definition of a kiss-ass) said very snidely that they got that meeting through “colleagues of their father” which was bullshit. Also, we live in a society where people are quick to sue others when they don’t get what they want. If anything, Tyler and Cameron should be commended for trying to deal with this issue at the lowest possible level.

[@doctrui]

Before he could arrive at "jeopardized", Summers would interrupt him and say: "Ok, gentleman, I've hear enough and there's nothing I can do about it. So, have a good day"

[@drewc3350]

Summers was brilliant in this scene.

[@gopback]

+Trevock1 Except that isn't Larry Summers. That's an actor playing Larry Summers.

[@oscarm8708]

+Froston Back I don't think he meant to say the actual Larry Summers, but the Larry Summers portrayed in this scene

[@Douken]

“undergrads... I don’t know... from the looks of it they want to sell me a Brooks Brothers franchise” 😂😂

[@ACoKyo]

"I'm devastated by that" my favorite part

[@thomasbaron5367]

That should definitely be a meme! Lol :D

[@justingreen2432]

"I was the U.S. Treasury secretary, I'm in some position to make that call." Larry Sommers is a whole mood and I am HERE for it.

[@stellarwind1946]

He was such an arrogant asshole, but he was right in this instance.

[@XKT035]

although he oversaw some of the policies which led to the global financial crisis

[@rapbattlefan2008]

I would’ve been like “yeah… as if that is related to the value of tech at ALL” 🙄

[@FZMStudio]

Sorkin is simply in a league of his own. I swear scenes like this and the phenomenal fast pace exchange of dialogue play throughout my mind at random times haha. I could spend hours explaining why this movie is a 10/10 just on the script alone. It's an absolute masterpiece!

[@RandomByte89]

"From the looks of it they want to sell me a Brooks Brother franchise." Fucking savage LMAO. Principal Summers hasn't even greeted them but was already roasting them while on the phone with someone else and them listening.

[@SanDeezyBreezy61986]

"From the looks of it, they want to sell me a Brooks Brothers franchise." Fuckin' savage.

[@TheRagingNerd]

Douche and Douche meet Douche.

[@theren8311]

meet King Douche*

[@RyanWehr]

He did say one important thing. “ The courts are always available to you”.

[@Guy_LastName]

"is there anything else i can do for you" well you havent really done anything for them in the first place so i would say no

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

kjl they should’ve made him say “This is the part where you leave”

[@sheriff0017]

He did a great deal for them. Telling them to fuck off and grow up is something those two needed to hear.

[@dbjkatz]

@@sheriff0017 Or...he could have elaborated on the point that intellectual property cases are the domain of courts / judiciary. An idea in and of itself does NOT constitute intellectual property. The key step is to put the concept down in writing and file a provisional patent. IP attorneys are $$$$, but in this case it would have been peanuts to hire a law firm on retainer.

[@craigledger4645]

Fun Fact: The actor playing Larry Summers is Gary Oldman's personal manger and producer, who later worked on another film by Fincher, lately, "Mank".

[@frankgrimes4436]

I'm not a fan of the Winklefucks but, to be fair, they didn't get the meeting through nepotism. IRL, Larry Summers specifically set aside Friday afternoons for meeting with undergrads on a first come/first served basis, and the twins actually showed up multiple times before they got the opportunity to see him. I love Summer's recollection of the meeting though, something to the effect of: "There are two reasons why 20yr kids wear suits (1) they have a job interview, or (2) they're assholes; and I wasn't hiring."

[@davidahlstrom7533]

The guy who played Larry Summers was terrific. I wish they'd make a good new college film and feature him as some senior professor like Larry Summers or Kingsfield of the Paper Chase. Would be very entertaining. I know this actor, Douglas Urbanowski, produced primarily, hope he woukd think about a Paper Chase-like film sometime.

[@andReChristosHelios]

"I'm devastated by that."

[@rileythewolf8960]

I can kind of see where the twins are coming from though. It was their idea(while that's not contract binding or anything) there's a code of ethics that WAS indeed violated. They came to Mark for help and he totally went a different route. I'm not saying that the Twins were saints and did what they needed to do throughout this entire fiasco, but I can understand their frustrations.

[@theren8311]

It's like Mark said in the movie, a guy that makes chairs, bigger and better, doesn't owe anything to the guy who first made chairs. They had an idea. Since the movie is my only source, that idea was Harvard Connect, which was suppose to be a dating site. Facebook was and is by no means a dating site. From what I gathered, Mark didn't even steal their idea, but more so was influenced by it. His idea came from the existence of MySpace and Friendster (again..movie is my only source). The twin's idea of having a site tied to Harvard was what sparked the point of Mark's. It's frustrating for even me to watch as it was more so for Mark to experience. Remember in the deposition he said, "I have no obligation to sit here and listen to people lie...", I can understand where he is coming from based on all I just said.

[@jibran4794]

Aventine Actually he does, I am not sure about the exact figures, but for a certain amount of time, the guy who first made chairs would have some sort of license protecting his invention from being replicated.

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

rileythewolf They’re Harvard Scholars, Olympic Athletes, and have a net worth of 65$million from that settlement alone. If that doesn’t take the butthurt outta SOMEWHAT, then you gotta be a real prick. The Harvard Code if Conduct in this particular year, did not cover digital blueprints that hadn’t been written, so could not be founded as an idea to even steal. They should’ve gone the Peter Theil way.

[@HyunlixHearts]

I completely agree. Their institution failed to protect their idea

[@Domss94]

Yeah I hear you. Mark was inspired by their idea but facebook is definitely not havard connection which was a dating site. The twins were simply frustrated to lose to someone. They should have hired another programmer to develop their original idea. Instead they started chasing Mark who was working on another type of project.

[@JosephDutra]

To be fair, the Dean is not wrong with his stance on the situation, if you expel someone just for stealing an idea, you might as well as expel half the campus there, it’s pretty much an issue between them and Mark. The problem is his attitude about it, he could have been “I’m sorry gentlemen, I understand your anger and I agree with it. But there is nothing I can do about it.” Instead, he was like, “I don’t care, so piss off.” with pretentiousness. It’s all about how one presents themselves in situations like this and he presented himself very rudely here.

[@rapbattlefan2008]

And the real Larry Summers confirmed that this WAS indeed how it went.

[@ethanz3837]

“It’s not worthy of Harvard, it’s not what Harvard saw in you”. What enunciation.

[@NYG1991]

Great scene. President Summers pretty much told them without actually saying it that their case held NO water and definitely lacked merit. One student stealing another's idea happens every day.

[@michaelairton3723]

Douglas Urbanski has only a few acting credits to his name (he's mostly a producer), but he's stolen every scene I've seen him in. He does a great job at deadpan delivery. "And you memorized that instead of doing what?" "Please. Arrive at the point."

[@RicoPointer]

The Editing is Fire!!

[@DepthUnchecked]

The scenes in this movie are addictive to watch

[@sidtom2741]

3:50 “whoops broke your 335 year old door knob!” My guy even did the math😂😂😂

[@jackryan5268]

This is such a well written scene

[@ryanevans8566]

Armie w/ a HoF delivery of the line "We're sitting in chairs."

[@viralbuthow000]

"You memorized that instead of doing what?" Hahahaha

[@scottnikolai64]

Larry Summers was right about one thing. The courts were always at their disposal, which they ended up using in the end.

[@AJBfc]

shieeeet, US secretary of the treasury is one of the most powerful positions in the country, selling an argument to a man like that takes balls (even though they clearly failed)

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

AJBfc This May be off topic, but dude, Have you seen Steve Mnuchin!? He’s US Treasury Secretary now. He looks like the KING of nerds, but I personally have a theory, he’s a closet partier. And By that he party’s HARD. The nerd things just a cover. I think I’m right.

[@dragonmb7]

Keep in mind that the twins is just one actor playing two characters.

[@davidahlstrom7533]

Sorry, the actor who played Larry Summers (and is a fine Producer also) is Douglas Urbanski.

[@fairverona8967]

That “colleagues of their father” is so good

[@rapbattlefan2008]

She seemed like a kiss-ass

[@ChaseTerrier]

The Harvard President might been rude but I do agree with what he said. It was a legal issue, not a school issue. So it should be handle in the court room, not in the Harvard President's office.

[@SwordsmanRyan]

I empathize with the Winklevosses in that Harvard created an impression that the school took these issues seriously and to the Winklevosses' credit, they tried to handle the issue at the lowest level possible. How often do we as a society cringe when we see parties suing each other over every matter? The Harvard President in this case was right that it was a legal issue. The handbook should've said something to the effect that the handbook was well-meaning bullshit only to be invoked at the convenience of the administration. What I object to is how the President showed contempt for honest students. The lesson here is, take the law into your own hands. People will be horrified but it's the only way you get justice.

[@MsJubjubbird]

SwordsmanRyan Those handbooks are more about academic work. Like if that was to be submitted for an assignment then it would be a university issue. But there are course coordinators and academic chairs for that. I don't think he disliked honesty but he really hated people wasting his time. He's dealing with huge issues and these people think they're special peanuts that they can take their personal problems with him. Then waste his time even more by taking forever to get to the point and not answering his questions directly. He didn't like young adults being overly dependent or kids getting special appointments because of how much money their parents have.

[@NYG1991]

When underclassmen are handed those books nobody really reads them to begin with. It is a legal issue and not a school issue. Plain & simple.

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

Fincher and Sorkin did such an amazing job with this. It's like what's the EXACT opposite of what you want when you go to someone for help? This meeting, that's it. 🤣 "I'm not helping you AND I think you're foolish for asking."

[@rickalicious1116]

Ugh! The dialogue is so good in this scene. Aaron Sorkin can make two people talking dog poop and it will still be just as riveting.

[@bluecollarmenproductions]

instead of one cannibal it's two!

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

I seriously feel so bad for the twins in this scene.

[@scottroffman2325]

The REAL star of this film.....was the script. You can fine tune your piano, with an Aaron Sorkin screenplay.

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

3:39 *Mutters* "Well you could take the Havard student handbook and shove it..."TY!!!"

[@iana3892]

By off chance any of you for whatever reason sympathize with the Winklevii, let me break down for you what Summers is telling them: What’s that? Someone stole your idea that you did no work on? Boo hoo to you. What’s that? You could have done better? Then why the hell don’t you? Go out there and write the code for a competitor social network! What’s that? You don’t know how to write code? I can’t help you there. What’s that? You still feel like you were robbed for code you didn’t write? Then what the hell are you doing in my office? Go to the courts and tell them you deserve money for work you didn’t do! It sucks when someone steals your idea, but, newsflash, ideas are not protected; essentially, choose wisely who you share them with, especially if you think it’s a money printer. It is not Zuckerberg’s fault that these two shared an idea with him that he turned around and did the work for. Let’s put this in another context; as a writer, I’m pretty protective of my ideas, why? I’m fully aware if someone takes it and writes the novel, script, comic, whatever, and it becomes a hit, well, I’m S.O.L. there since I was foolish enough to share it, probably with a stranger whose creative output was clearly more disciplined than mine. Why can’t you sue for people stealing your ideas? Whose to stop person X, Y, and Z from coming out of the blue and now claiming: NO! YOU! YOU ARE THE CRIMINAL! You stole that idea from me! And the cycle will just flow pointlessly. Film version Zuckerberg put it best when he said: “A guy who builds a nice chair doesn’t owe money to everyone who ever has built a chair!” and it’s true. As for that stupid “walk into our dorm room and stole our computer” analogy, here’s a more apt one. Zuckerberg didn’t walk into your dorm and stole your computer, you two gave it to him with smiles and said “Turn it on, here’s the password, open whatever files you want, tinker with whatever software, read our personal messages in there. Whatever, we don’t care, as long as you have all our term papers due before deadline.” That’s more fitting to the events that transpired in the film.

[@LONEWOLF-tn7kd]

I agree with you!

[@devrobinson8607]

"I'm sorry, President Summers, but what you just said makes no sense to me" "I'm devastated by that" 😁😀😂😄😃

[@SpreadingtheMuse]

So why bother even having an Honor Code if they wont enforce it?

[@Glitcher2000]

Because they enter into a code with the university, not with each other. :p

[@jwl00066]

+Albrecht Anderson No it isnt. The entities that the Honor Code stipulates are specifically as that, the university and the students. The Code regulates transactions BETWEEN THE UNI AND STUDENTS. It does not regulate those between the students themselves.

[@ataraxia2894]

SpreadingtheMuse they would if it's necessary. It's just that this time it is deemed unnecessary.

[@gentilegrief]

It's a holdover from a different era. One that's hard to dispose of without drawing attention to that very act. That's why it still exists, not because the current occupiers of harvard have any real respect for it.

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

Because the honor codes dictated in the Harvard Handbook covered grounds on things that existed. You have to remember at the time they are complaining to President Summers about a blueprint. This was still an idea. There was no Facebook format, there was no billion dollar profit margin to show that this idea was successful. At the time this was the equivalent of complaining to the President of an Ivy League college about a drawing you hadn’t even made yet, explaining it would be a priceless work of art, but someone took your sketchbook before you were finished. All you would get is raised eyebrows.

[@MrAtaguas]

"I was the US Treasury Secretary..." .... yup thats pretty much worthless in the arena of software development ... lol some people just look for reasons to brag and flex their egos

[@ericstroud3765]

The dialogue in this scene is exceptional all around but 'Anne, punch me in the face' has got to be my favorite line

[@yl4521]

IF ONLY HE WAS THIS YOUNG WHEN HE FILMED "CALL ME BY YOUR NAME" WITH TIMOTHEE CHALAMET - SOOOO HANDSOME + TALENTED!

[@harrychowd]

They made out alright in the end...

[@rafaels.2350]

He is the US secretary of the treasury and,appearently, wasn't qualified enough to see the monetary potential of the project...what a shame

[@sheriff0017]

Summers was right, it wasn't worth millions. It was worth billions.

[@sheriff0017]

Indeed, Lawrence Summers is an economist. If you wanted to know if the idea was stolen, you would need to talk to a lawyer skilled in intellectual property - and if he was an IP lawyer, it is (as you say) still not his jurisdiction.

[@viralbuthow000]

"Please ... arrive at the point."

[@sheriff0017]

Whether the twins made a strong case is irrelevant, they sought the wrong forum. The Winkelvosses are adults, the reasonable expectation is that they handle their own problems, rather than going to Proxy Mummy. If they can't handle it themselves, then they should see a lawyer and get advice on whether there is a case for Zuckerberg to answer. The key question not being answered by the Winkelvosses' apologists is "Why is this Harvard's business?", or "Should Harvard intervene in a private dispute between adults?". My answer to that question, however formed, is absolutely not. Of course Summers was disrespectful. You do not show respect to those who are not respectable, and trying to get a university to resolve a dispute they should be resolving themselves, or through the courts is not a respectable act. By taking this dispute to him, they treated him with contempt. Why should he not respond in kind? It may not be the best style, but in substance, I don't see a problem with it. Their use of their father's connections to get a meeting demonstrates further that they do not respect Summers, or his position. They see him and it as a means to their personal ends. Parenthetically, I'd suggest there is no legal case for Zuckerberg to answer. Intellectual property law does not cover ideas. Patent law covers inventions, copyright covers expressions. Whether the WInkelvosses knew that is not something on which I care to speculate. If no, they're immature idiots. If yes, they're vile, dishonest, immature idiots.

[@viralbuthow000]

That Sorkin dialogue. Unmistakable.

[@MrSupasonics]

And you memorized that instead of doing what? lololol I wish I will have a chance to use that phrase in some future

[@CalamityFrost]

MrSupasonics and you memorized that instead of doing what?.... ha ha xd

[@brianpatrick7411]

There are aspects of this scene similar to when The Dude first visits The Big Lebowski at his mansion.

[@bigtakeshi]

One thing I don't get, was Summers saying that the school didn't have anything to do with students stealing something from students period (like the computer example) or was he saying that the Winklevii were ridiculous to say that Zuckerberg "stole an idea that was 'potentially' worth millions (or billions, I guess)"? I remember when the actual accusations came out, the big issue that was debated was "is intellectual property really 'property?'" They can't read Zuckerberg's mind, so there is no clear cut answer to if he intentionally stole the idea or not. The Winklevii didn't invent social networking, so unless Zuckerberg stole exclusive aspects of their actual website, he didn't steal anything. The only possible thing he "stole" was the idea of exclusivity among college students, which what he did with exclusivity and what they did with exclusivity were two different things. They wanted to hook up with girls, but he wanted to create an open environment for communication amongst students.

[@Fatmanstan606]

You literally can’t beat Sorkin dialogues

[@designeranthony]

This is one of the best scenes

[@greef_karga6402]

Who is also here after watching Call Me by Your Name?

[@proserfina21096]

This man is starting to be wildly successful! You came a long way Armie! Who's from Call Me by Your Name?

[@hideousveronicus8322]

0:40 fitting how the mantelpiece ornament behind him resembles a question mark

[@gregoryfujita8265]

I love how they get put in their place so quick and rudely.....

[@DanimationYoutube]

"Punch me in the face. Go ahead" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ubu6420]

"this building's a hundred year's older than the country it's in. so do be careful." "we're sitting in chairs."

[@vilentman111]

You can feel the twins' frustration throughout this scene

[@adennis200]

"Thats not the point" ... "pls arrive at the point"

[@JohnBonini]

1:14 "Anne... punch me in the face."

[@DrJoopyThePsychonaut99]

i had no idea who larry summers is until now and it makes the winklevoss much more interesting for having done this hilarious conversation

[@Nero-ox5tw]

"This idea is potentially worth millions of dollars." "Millions? Might just be letting your imaginations run away with you." Me checking Facebook's Market Value in 2020: *$670 Billion*

[@alphaexpress6881]

$920 billion now

[@thedarkknight9153]

@@alphaexpress6881 Dang. One more year and the idea will be literally in the trillions. And he was flabbergasted at the notion it could be in the millions.

[@tuavale]

This was the best scene of the movie

[@1pooltub5391]

My Brother-In-Law- PhD attended Harvard and he acts just exactly like Larry Summers!😂😂😂 My Wife tells me he wasn’t that way when he went started Harvard! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@danieleskridge3180]

“I’ll say it again: ‘You told Brandt on the phone, he told me.’ I know what happened, yes, yes?”

[@bellad8606]

So i was watching CMBYN and I was thinking the whole time that Oliver sounded like these twins and I never thought that it was him because they are twins and I thought he actually has a twin. LoL Armie is gorgeous and a great actor, I think he deserves more roles.

[@skysnyder1409]

he eats people

[@jasontodd42]

This scene is why I think Hammer gave one the best performances in this movie

[@jarjarissnoke532]

What a great movie, fincher's best. I don't know about the actual twins, but the movie ones are hilarious, enjoyed every scene with them.

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

Because of this scene, I strive to be like Larry Summers everyday 😂

[@maqboolfida786]

The door knob is why the secretary told Mr Winklewoss and Mr Winklewoss to be careful with the building!!

[@carlhopkinson]

As this is an accurate depiction of what went down in Summers office as admitted by Summers himself, Mr. Summers should be BARRED from holding any office of public trust in the future for his unbelievable lack of ethical understanding.

[@MsJubjubbird]

+Carl Hopkinson He thought it was a schoolyard dispute between some whiny rich kids and one of the nerds. His job is also to create good employable adults and if he goes and intervenes in fights for the pampered kids who have never heard the word no then he's doing them a disservice. For all he knew they had the same idea at the same time and the twins were having a cry. Most of the ideas that the undergrads come up with probably amount to little or nothing and so based on statistics it wasn't a big deal to him. While as a business man he made a misjudgement about the potential, from a teaching and ethical perspective I could see his point.