Laser Scanning Microscope from Blu-ray Player #3: Increasing the Resolution

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Doctor Volt

Doctor Volt

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@havelsand
@havelsand 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. This microscope series must have far more views. Totally underrated. I'm curious what comes next in your channel.
@pastarmak
@pastarmak Жыл бұрын
10 years ago I was working as electronics engineer for a German company - Zwick/Roel - a harness testing machines manufacturers but in their England facilities - Indentec. I had exactly the same idea - using blue ray mechanism for scanning and measuring the indentation, those times people was laughing and the idea was discarded. I'm glad someone has realised it now.
@andrewphi4958
@andrewphi4958 11 ай бұрын
About the same time I've seen a cut from a TV show where russian kid and his teacher made a working microscope out of a CD drive with very good resolution and specimen glss embedded into a normal disc to insert. Worked pretty well, down to bacteria size. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any further info.
@Redcactus5
@Redcactus5 Жыл бұрын
You may be able to further increase the resolution by also using the translation voice coils on the laser assembly, in addition to the sample stepper. If you make it scan in a similar way to the way a drive reads (the coils do most of the moving, the stepper only advance when the coils run out of travel), you may be able to improve quality. You could also try adding position sensors to the motor to allow for error compensation. adding an x translation stepper to allow for scanning bigger areas at the same detail level could be neat too. Not sure if any of this would work or even be worth it, but it is an idea. Love this project!
@SnoopyNug
@SnoopyNug Жыл бұрын
What excellent ideas!
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek Жыл бұрын
Thats how the dvd reader works
@Redcactus5
@Redcactus5 Жыл бұрын
@@Thefreakyfreekthat’s where I got the idea. These microscopes are incredibly similar to optical drives, so I thought that things could probably transfer over.
@7LegSpiders
@7LegSpiders 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see an encoder on the shaft for closed loop positioning, but a belt or gear on the motor for speed reduction (better position accuracy). Tell me why that wouldn't work to keep the same motor, but reduce the heat generated by splitting phases so small.
@talkingmetastasis607
@talkingmetastasis607 Жыл бұрын
please don't give up that project, you're such an inspiration for me. i dream about a diy confocal microscope every day. cheers bro
@randolph6013
@randolph6013 Жыл бұрын
Respect, someone with such skills in the fields of precision mechanics, electronics, and IT can be proud of themselves.
@AJMansfield1
@AJMansfield1 Жыл бұрын
The stepper driver's microstepping could be the cause of the vertical blur in your images, if it's inducing vibrations at the microstep switching frequency. You may be able to get better results if you add more mass to the stage to dampen this vibration, or actually disable microstepping by setting the driver's configuration pins. Microstepping involves generating intermediate "unit vector" voltages to feed the two stepper coils, and nearly all implementations of this rely on high-frequency PWM to do this, for efficiency sake. Lower switching frequency results in fewer transitions, which means less heat dissipated in the driver. Large stepper motors with a lot of inductance attached to heavy mechanical stages with a lot of inertia will intrinsically damp out frequencies above a threshold, making it a trade-off that's easy to design around. But I suspect the motor and stage you have are a lot lighter than what that driver was designed to control, and some of its micro-stepping PWM frequency is vibrating the stage enough to blur the image vertically.
@longpham-sj5sv
@longpham-sj5sv Жыл бұрын
With such small motor, he could even make a linear (like in linear power supply) stepper motor driver to get even lower mechanical noise.
@longpham-sj5sv
@longpham-sj5sv Жыл бұрын
To some extent, the voice coil - focus feedback loop can cancel out the mechanical noise if it's fast enough
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. Microstepping actually wabbles between poles, and there's backlash in the mechanics. The proper way to increase resolution is to gear down and slow down the movement. And average samples between full runs - that should average the mechanical noise, not samples in each positions - which averages laser sample noise but should already be accurate enough. At this scale, I'd try polar coordinate movements, ironically the way discs are already set up to work. But disabling microstepping, finer lead screws(probably not available) and slower speed should give better results. Alternatively, geared down steppers could be available commercially.
@longpham-sj5sv
@longpham-sj5sv Жыл бұрын
The stepper driver uses PWM and feedback loop to regulate phase current in full step or micro step mode. It's the PWM causing current ripple in each phase, which translates to mechanical noise. I think it could be mitigated a lot by using a linear stepper driver given the motor is fairly small or improving the voice coil - focus feedback loop so that the focus is maintained despite the noise (the PDIC has bandwidth of few 100s MHz while the voice coil has bandwidth of 10s kHz) I've not seen inside of a blu ray stepper motor but i think the linear rail is pretty much tied directly to the motor shaft, combining with the spring loaded "nut", i doubt there's any backlash at all. Adding gears would complicate the mechanical design and increase backlash. To increase the resolution, as someone has stated, the voice coil itself can be used as an actuator.
@TankR
@TankR 11 ай бұрын
@@longpham-sj5sv Well to be fair, in its normal job it just has to read digital data, and has the advantage of error correction. The circuitry wasnt meant to produce an analog output value from the photodiodes other than for focusing correction which, again in normal useage is an automatic feedback loop. Also we need to keep in mind BR optics are inherently astigmatic. IIRC they also use two side beams (split from the main of course early in the optics path) which either keep a bead on the next and previous track, or just inside them in the smooth area (if the laser wonders of center one side or the other will start or stop flashing as data pips interact with the light). These tracking spots have their own photodiode areas on the sensor, I wonder if they could be utilized to ensure the entire assembly were square to the sample, or at least the stage....... But yeah I totally agree, utilize the positioning coils more. AND SET THE STEPPER DRIVER PROPERLY!!!! Dude needs to stop winging it before they cook the damn thing.... I have a lens block from an old handy cam Im playing with for the zoom functions, and Im just direct driving the coils from an arduino. Just driving one coil, one polarity shift at a time. Easy peasy. The original project from years ago I saw on hack a day.....and the second go by someone else that HaD so professionally pretended was the first time it was seen ever....I believe used linear mag coil drives to move the stage. So as long as the voltage output steps of a DAC kept the area of interest within reach of the lens all they needed to do was county up in binary to move the stage. Linear drives that small sound expensive, eh? Nah, they just used some speakers from an old bluetooth boombox! And some skewers from the woofer cones to the side glass! LoL
@knickly
@knickly Жыл бұрын
Some researchers are using piezo buzzers for their SPM stages. A really interesting option is slip-stick piezo stages, which allow nanoresolution with long travels (there are some open source printed designs).
@TankR
@TankR 11 ай бұрын
The original project years ago used speakers to translate the slides in XY (it also looked up from below to remove any alignment issues ensuring the laser lens was square to the sample plane). The arduino would drive the voice coils through some basic circuitry and depending on how much voltage was passed through them they would extend or retract the speaker cones. Attach some chop sticks to the cones and the stage, BAM! automated stage ;)
@johnmorris1162
@johnmorris1162 2 жыл бұрын
If there is a backlash problem between the screws and the carriage nut, you could try adding a second nut with a split washer or some washers with a little give in between the nuts and adjust the nuts to balance least friction against least backlash.
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt 2 жыл бұрын
I solved that by rotating the lead screw a half turn before the actual scan begins.
@dh2032
@dh2032 Жыл бұрын
some sort spring, or at the scale where working at here, a bit sponge or small rubber band, the one's out of the anything will do?
@medienmond
@medienmond Жыл бұрын
Get yourself a TMC2209 stepper driver (StepStick), which has smoother motion and ist more quiet. Also the microstepping is more relieable and the motor does not need as much current. In addition you can set additional parameters via a UART Interface to the driver.
@TankR
@TankR 11 ай бұрын
No, go analog. Grab some speakers from a bluetooth boom box, and set up a DAC circuit so that each increment displaces the voice coil on the woofer just enough to keep the area of interest within reach of the laser, also utilize the focusing coils more for positioning.....like how its supposed to work.... Then some tooth picks or skewers glued between the woofer cones and the slides and you're off to the races. Also, flip the thing over so the laser is looking up though a cover slip.
@vrmadlab
@vrmadlab Жыл бұрын
an optical probing microscope is crazy for the budget. Well done !
@DatBoiOrly
@DatBoiOrly Жыл бұрын
11:48 i think the reason it has those washed out lines is because it isn't truly level so it's scanning it on an angle so it's picking up side information making it washed out
@SphaeroX
@SphaeroX 9 ай бұрын
Great project! Let's start improving and building a PCB with all parts and sell it, perfect for Researchers!
@Krishell
@Krishell Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@morkovija
@morkovija Жыл бұрын
this is top tier levels of geekiness
@markr9640
@markr9640 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I have many years of experience with stepper motors. If you want smooth running, it often helps to add a fly wheel. 'Not a lot of people know this'
@pvc988
@pvc988 Жыл бұрын
1. I wonder if it would be possible to recover height map using focus error signal. 2. The problem with horizontal lines might come from leadscrew/nut tolerances. Try preloading it with a spring. 3. Voice coil instead of stepper motor could be more precise. 4. Could this setup be used for microphotolitography?
@HeadCodeMonkey82
@HeadCodeMonkey82 Жыл бұрын
Incredible work, you have clearly learnt so much to be able to produce such an amazing result
@SIM31r
@SIM31r 9 күн бұрын
Interesting microscope. It is better than usual optical microscopes. Because it can create 3D images. I think it is possible to modify the program so that the result will not be a 2D picture, but a 3D model that can be rotated in a 3D editor (to show the 3D structure of the material). The most interesting objects for scanning are insects, a fly's head, dragonflies.
@shadeydave
@shadeydave Жыл бұрын
Spherical aberation toward the edges. You can compensate with software, or close crop toward the middle where you need a clearer view. The horizontal lines are doubled up vertically likely because of the instability of the stepper motor at that resolution. You can compensate this by using a geared dc motor instead, perhaps..
@Dangineering
@Dangineering Жыл бұрын
Whoa, this is the coolest project I have seen in a while, thank you for sharing!
@amoedoricardo
@amoedoricardo Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, great project!!
@hamid.s.zolfagari
@hamid.s.zolfagari 6 ай бұрын
hi. thanks for the video. you can use gearbox configuration with 1:3 ratio for Example to get higher step per mm and increase he amount of torque you need to rotate the shaft.
@_droid
@_droid Жыл бұрын
Very nice work! This is something I have wanted to do for decades but never got around to experimenting with it. This information will be helpful!I I see those same blurs when looking at a calibration slide with a reflective light source. I suspect a transmitted light like a traditional microscope won't do that. It's due to the markings being on the wrong side of the glass compared to the light source.
@АлександрЮжанин-в2ч
@АлександрЮжанин-в2ч Жыл бұрын
You can try to install optical sensors of stepper motors for a better gradation of the focus points of the location. for example, as in a laser printer or an old mouse with a running ball . But it is generally possible to approach cardinally , by definition, the sine wave of rotation of the magnetic field as in the video head of a VHS cassette recorder . Alternatively, choose a small stepper motor with interchangeable shafts with a smaller thread pitch, but this one will have to be made of wear-resistant materials and a special pen moving along the thread .
@fox.9879
@fox.9879 Жыл бұрын
12:11 when you under power a servo it jitters it might be a similar issue in that image
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester Жыл бұрын
😮put a small capacitor on the pwm pin to smooth the ripple?
@zheyingchin4194
@zheyingchin4194 Жыл бұрын
Try using a second OPU for the y-axis. Then you will have coils for both axis
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Yes, but it would be difficult to place the specimem on it, because there is not much space and it cannot carry much weight eiter. But it these issues can be solved somehow, this would be a good solution.
@soulslip
@soulslip 5 ай бұрын
Doctor Volt sounds like a Spiderman villain name, cool video
@rougine
@rougine Жыл бұрын
I have to optical focus on glasssubtrates at work. I have to deal with internal reflections and see all patterns more than once. If you look in an angle from above you see the pattern at least twice but faint. Maybe that is what you are getting here too. To test for this you can try to focus on the reflections. If there are none it is something else.
@nikscha
@nikscha Жыл бұрын
I believe a compliant mechanism could solve your stepper issues. I'm thinking some kind of lever mechanism.
@AlexSouthwell
@AlexSouthwell Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I loved it. I want one! I should see what old drives I have
@jimbotron70
@jimbotron70 11 ай бұрын
What about using a CRT as electron scanning microscope?
@marcdohmen4699
@marcdohmen4699 11 ай бұрын
very nice project. I just build the hardware, but I can't get any connection with the website. Why?
@Scar32
@Scar32 6 ай бұрын
instead of a higher resolution for each scan you could instead have it so that you could zoom into an area 2X but keep the same resolution so it scans just as fast but zoomed in to a smaller area. then you can save the 960 scans for special occasions, plus I have done multiple calculation projects that takes around 4 hours or more to complete with no progress bar, the trick is to do it overnight since you already waste like 10 hours doing nothing
@GregCoonrod
@GregCoonrod 2 жыл бұрын
How did you determine when your subject was "in focus"?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt 2 жыл бұрын
It is in focus when it reflects a maximum of light. I can this on the LED or the indicator at the bottom of the HTML site.
@andrewanderson8803
@andrewanderson8803 Жыл бұрын
Why not try a piezeoelectric stepper?
@across8339
@across8339 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and what a fascinating project! The motion of a stepper motor is very abrupt and the double horizontal scan lined suggest t you could getting a backlash bounce between the threaded rod and the nut. You could fairly quickly test this by creating a simple pull back force on the carriage (spring?) and a small delay to settle. This will slow the scan but improvements in the vertical resolution will vastly improve the quality, possibly more than your current high resolution setting.
@Dhirajkumar-ls1ws
@Dhirajkumar-ls1ws Жыл бұрын
You can also do direct laser lithography
@emil4390
@emil4390 Жыл бұрын
Why not to try DC motor with reducing gear box insted of stepper motor
@nomanshah6761
@nomanshah6761 Жыл бұрын
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@Stopinvadingmyhardware
@Stopinvadingmyhardware Жыл бұрын
Reduction gears and belts to smooth them out.
@DonCarlione973
@DonCarlione973 Жыл бұрын
Neat little project 👍🏼
@mantookaibarta3073
@mantookaibarta3073 11 ай бұрын
Nice Explanation.... Hope to see more videos like this.... Thank you for sharing your ideas.....
@henryjulianmurillogutierre3421
@henryjulianmurillogutierre3421 11 ай бұрын
i’m so jealous 😂 i would like to have that level of skills, this project is insane a more detailed series on the reverse engineering of the laser controller and software coding would be much appreciated i’m looking forward on being able to tepalcate this cool project
@rushbhavaiya1714
@rushbhavaiya1714 9 ай бұрын
When you start ? , becz I am also looking to start. lets connect !
@RyLeedepressed
@RyLeedepressed Жыл бұрын
Have you looked into nema 8 linear slides? You can find 0.9deg step angle versions for around $50
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
I checked several options, but I didn't want to spend that much money.
@reoproedros
@reoproedros Жыл бұрын
why there is a different focus point between scans ?
@PeaceToAllEvenYou
@PeaceToAllEvenYou Жыл бұрын
For some reason, your accent tempts me to address you as Herr Doktor 🙂 I'm really impressed with this! You achieve high resolution on such large samples. As it's proving difficult to move the sled precisely, and you know that the cylindrical lens provides an elliptical focus on the detector array - did you know that the tracking servo also uses the left/right balance of the four diodes in that central detector array? ie, you already state that, given the diode array {A,B} {C,D} you sum A, B, C and D to get your main signal And the focus error signal is the difference between (A+D) and (B+C) I'm guessing that you already know that there's a tracking servo signal in the difference between (A+C) and (B+D) So what I'm excited about trying is this: Try to use the optical tracking servo to find the resonant frequency of the optics... If it's able to resonate, use that as a final-stage scanning option instead of depending on the precise movement of the sled. Examine the signal which could be useful in resolving small details - but maybe hard to use for large samples... in any case, fun to try. Best wishes!
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
You mean that small stepper motor in the OPU that moves the collimator lens? I was always wondering what this is good for.
@hvanmegen
@hvanmegen 11 ай бұрын
​ @DoctorVolt We'll call you "that other guy with the swiss accent" from now on.. (with Andreas Spiess being the OG (original guy) with the swiss accent)
@my.own.devices
@my.own.devices Жыл бұрын
This project is a major contribution and I give you huge props. I had the same idea 6 or 7 years ago but the interfacing and output part was too daunting for me. You've really done a fantastic job with the ESP application 👍👍 I always wondered if it would be possible to operate it in confocal mode, i.e. have the focus follow the surface contours as it scans. In this way an image much like that from a SEM might be obtained. The potential for low-cost, high resolution student microscopes, leveraging the incredible abilities of these laser modules, is huge.
@weirdsciencetv4999
@weirdsciencetv4999 2 ай бұрын
Use a centrifugal fan blower module to blow directly on motor
@obsurdhotdog8442
@obsurdhotdog8442 Ай бұрын
would add vibration to the carriage. bad.
@tech.curiosity
@tech.curiosity Жыл бұрын
Why dont you use a mechanical hard drive head to make the movement? I believe you will have much more precision and faster scaning.
@nickpelov
@nickpelov Жыл бұрын
Are you using the electro-magnetic deflector? I think (not 100% sure) there is a el.magnetic coils that can deflect the lens for fine movement. when you pass current through the coils. It's also possible that if you don't pass current the lens will vibrate and cause distorsions.
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Yes, the lines are being scanned by the coils
@paravedaparaveda.5308
@paravedaparaveda.5308 11 ай бұрын
piezocrystal for pozitioning
@khatharrmalkavian3306
@khatharrmalkavian3306 11 ай бұрын
Could you use a couple gears to adjust the effect of the motor? I haven't worked with them so I don't know what causes the overheat. Is it the constant operation or is it that it doesn't like running at that speed?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt 11 ай бұрын
It's because it needs a high torque to drag the sled.
@thefruit
@thefruit 11 ай бұрын
Warum verwendest du nicht ein Größeres Zahnrad das zu immer kleineren Zahnrädern führt, dann könntest du vielleicht einen größeren Motor verwenden oder? Ich hoffe du bleibst dran an dem Projekt und schaffst es eine Anleitung für ein günstiges Hochleistungsmikroskop zu erstellen :) das würde vielen ärmeren Ländern helfen, die zb in Krankenhäusern eines bräuchten (aber ich kenn mich nicht aus, vielleicht ist es garnicht für organische Materialien geeignet)
@hi-tech-guy-1823
@hi-tech-guy-1823 Жыл бұрын
You should of used the Voice coils more The optical Pick Head has a few of these To fine Tune the optical Pickup Lens
@su2so3
@su2so3 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered using a flexure instead of threaded rod for the fine axis control?
@seditt5146
@seditt5146 Жыл бұрын
I wold think some form of Linear motor would be much better than attempting to use the worm gears to convert rotational movement into translational as you will always get some losses that way. Hell, you already have everything needed to make an Atomic force microscope and see atoms by replacing the stage with piezo controlled movements and a sharp pin to detect the electric fields
@largerification
@largerification Жыл бұрын
Can you increase the dept of focus by applying autofocus on the go?
@francescocontalbi1222
@francescocontalbi1222 5 ай бұрын
Very nice!!! You are a creative engineer
@yt4krist0f
@yt4krist0f Жыл бұрын
Great results!
@critic1236
@critic1236 Жыл бұрын
Great work. Thanks for sharing.
@marianodiaz461
@marianodiaz461 Жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting project, and I would like to make it myself , did you made any PCB to interface the laser ?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
No, I built the electronics on perfboard.
@marianodiaz461
@marianodiaz461 Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorVolt is there any chance that you can take a photo of both sizes of the perforated board assembly? I’m not to good following schematics in a perforated board
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Ok, I will upload the photos to Github when I find the time.
@gibbyrockerhunter
@gibbyrockerhunter Жыл бұрын
Totally guessing here. But if the blurry artifacts are not from software, reflection or refraction from stray energy pollution...id bet the the issue would be from the physical and digital X an Y axis are not perfectly square. Obviously there are a few factors so no clue for certain. Great build. My electron microscope from 8 years ago looks like a mad scientists joke by today’s standards. Lol
@MarkxTube
@MarkxTube Жыл бұрын
Hey great work. Have you ever heard of the OpenFlexure project? This could give you the fine control you need without the overheating problem. Next you need a vertical axis and some fluorescence dye ;)
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to know how accurate it works. As far as I can see, it functions with stepper motors and 3D-printed gears. So I guess that this highly depends on the quality of the 3D printer.
@MarkxTube
@MarkxTube Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorVolt True, however your drive is quite direct from motor to shaft. If you come up with something that increases travel distance but reduces movement and works against a slight resistance you will get a much smoother ride. I think that was the principal behind the openflexure. But it has been a long while since I had a look at it.
@SergeyPoptsov
@SergeyPoptsov Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to continuously accumulate data from the led sensor to differentially get images of the areas that had just included in the spot and leaving it? You could take images every 120nm to obtain a lower resolution than spot size of 480 nm.
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Maybe...
@chrisarmstrong2721
@chrisarmstrong2721 Жыл бұрын
Would you make this for a privet buyer? If so, roughly how much???
@qweqwerty7537
@qweqwerty7537 Жыл бұрын
Sir, very nice work. Where do you find a motor with a ball screw pair? Can you give a link on your motor? Please answer.
@qweqwerty7537
@qweqwerty7537 Жыл бұрын
Stepper motor with lead screw, sorry, i mean this device.
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
I bought it on Ebay, but don't have the link any more. Just enter "stepper motor with lead screw" into the search field and you'll probably find something.
@Sulzart
@Sulzart Жыл бұрын
Woah, found your video as a suggestion from YT. Nice project. I'm looking for a way to scan/photograph open ICs. More as an art project than an exact reproduction. Have you scanned IC yet ?
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 5 ай бұрын
Nice incredible work
@Ben-ht5yf
@Ben-ht5yf Жыл бұрын
Great results. Maybe a dedicated adc or a analog sweep driver for the scan coil instead of the pwm would make the optics more stable? Or is it a mechanical limitation?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Only the X direction is scanned by voice coil. This is ok. The problem is the Y direction which is driven by stepper motor.
@Ben-ht5yf
@Ben-ht5yf Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorVolt some preload on the carriage may help, maybe? Impressive results nonetheless
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-ht5yf Yes, I will consider it if I do a follow-on for this.
@BobSimpkin
@BobSimpkin Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thank you for showing us.
@RobSchofield
@RobSchofield 2 жыл бұрын
What about trying a NEMA-8 size motor?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt 2 жыл бұрын
NEMA-8 seems to be powerful enough, however it requires a redesign of the base part.
@talkingmetastasis607
@talkingmetastasis607 Жыл бұрын
that's very interesting, I also want to build one
@keithcarpenter5254
@keithcarpenter5254 Жыл бұрын
How about a simple kit to adapt 3d printers into microscopes.......massive market already there..
@meyemediauk
@meyemediauk Жыл бұрын
i transmitted data via laser when i was a child , but the reciever had to be in a fixed position, the room had wooden floorboards , if i walked arround it would cause a vibration and lose connection , also made a laser speaker, transmitted a song to the output cool stuff
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Young Sheldon :)
@Zalo29
@Zalo29 Жыл бұрын
Boy, I've been thinking on your project and came across the lightscribe technology They managed to use the laser to etch the backside of a CD It would be interesting to know how they managed to keep the laser focused It should be useful for you
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
I guess that they use the focus error signal to do that. But if I re-focus every scanpoint, scanning would take much, much longer than it takes anyway
@Gabuhmi
@Gabuhmi Жыл бұрын
Super Projekt, schöne Umsetzung ! Ich möchte echt nicht zu nahe treten, aber ich würde vielleicht überlegen entweder KI für die Audios zu benutzen oder einen Sprecher outsourcen. Gibt günstige Freelancer. Video/Schnitt technisch finde ich es Klasse !
@kredwol2103
@kredwol2103 Жыл бұрын
Why not just add a 10 to 1 gear on the motor you have?
@CRAIG86
@CRAIG86 Жыл бұрын
i had that out dated samsung blu ray player, worked great to wach youtube intell it sttarted to refuse to connect to wifi
@7LegSpiders
@7LegSpiders 10 ай бұрын
Do house flies have toenails?
@valentinoboi96
@valentinoboi96 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video🎉
@RyLeedepressed
@RyLeedepressed Жыл бұрын
Impressive work
@ifrite3
@ifrite3 Жыл бұрын
how do you sound german and indian at the same time
@cyantosolar
@cyantosolar Жыл бұрын
Great project! Inspired to try something like this based on your work. Want to use an optical setup that has both red and blue lasers in one optical path. It seems like Sony BDPBX370 has optical head like this. Will your electronics control this player? or would you suggest another model that is readily available? Thanks!
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
My electronics will control any OPU. I was using a BDP10G from a Samsung player. With other heads it's up to you to figure out the pinout.
@cyantosolar
@cyantosolar Жыл бұрын
How did you figure out the pinouts? And how would one go about figuring out pinouts for a different model? Thank you.@@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
Have you seen part #1? There I show how I did it.
@ricoreyes6044
@ricoreyes6044 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting project. I've been wondering what to do with the drives I have in my junk bin, and I think this is an awesome idea to work with. I wonder if adding a little counter-tension (maybe a rubber band) would pull the backlash from the drive. Also, is there any chance there's vibration or external influences causing the positioning noise?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
I'm quite sure that it must be caused by vibrations. Waiting some microseconds between moving and capturing the value helps there, but also taking the picture takes longer, then.
@ricoreyes6044
@ricoreyes6044 Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorVolt is the sensor output stable and clean if you travel continuously instead of discrete steps?
@valeriydergachev
@valeriydergachev 10 ай бұрын
cool i want this tool :( good work my friend!! its real cool !!
@lockdown9402
@lockdown9402 Жыл бұрын
It does not work this way.... you cant get 150nm resolution. The blue ray spot is not a spot and niether is it 150nm wide. It is a diffraction pattern and looks like concentric bright and dark fringes...... Yes for a CD where the tracks are a set distance apart you can get that resolution because you know here the dark and the reflective white spots are or are expected to be. So every consequtive track is around 150nm or less apart but every adajacent bit on the same track have to be spaced out further because that is the information you dont have and you are trying to find out. However when you are imaging something that you have no idea what it actually looks like and does not have a set periodicity you cant make that assumption. The best angular resolution you can get is still around 200nm ( theoritically). As a reference I would like to point out the book by James Pawley "Handbook of biological confocal microscopy". Apart from the resolution claims, this is a very nice device and clever use of electronics. I and amazed that you were able to find the relevant pins from the ribbon connector and these things rarely have a datasheet. Great job.
@peterrichards1989
@peterrichards1989 Жыл бұрын
Can you scan the surface of a CD and show how it looks?
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt Жыл бұрын
I tried, but I could only see dust and scratches on the surface of the coating, but not the pits and lands.
@BrunoTorrente
@BrunoTorrente Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorVolt I was interested, because an open source OPA platform could emerge from your work, of course today readers have become commodities, but they are stagnant, several concept tests could occur or even replicate cases such as the use of femto lasers (similar to the silica project) for data recording. There are preservation projects that need such technologies but are limited by closed hardware/software.
@eVITORIOe
@eVITORIOe Жыл бұрын
maybe you need to apply lens correction
@noanyobiseniss7462
@noanyobiseniss7462 Жыл бұрын
This earned you a Big ars SUB and wish I could upvote multiple times! :)
@gerd3136
@gerd3136 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Hammer 👍🏼😎!
@MrAlex3461
@MrAlex3461 11 ай бұрын
Good, great! Great great! Great Scott that's good great
@trinocerous
@trinocerous Жыл бұрын
You're awesome! Thanks for sharing!
@RonLaws
@RonLaws Жыл бұрын
So, would this be called a Scanning Photon Microscope 🤔
@001Nero001
@001Nero001 Жыл бұрын
Dont use microstepping. use mechanical reduction
@faevara
@faevara 2 жыл бұрын
If it gets hot during operation, could you operate it in a freezer? Edit: My logic is that if anything is expanding due to the heat it would cause an adjustment to the measurements and scans.
@DoctorVolt
@DoctorVolt 2 жыл бұрын
I can also cool it down with coolant spray or dry ice
@chrisgj198
@chrisgj198 11 ай бұрын
For some mechanical ideas, you could read the article about making a ruling engine, in The Amateur Scientist column of Scientific American magazine, April 1975. This machine moves a carriage with accuracy about 0.000001 inch or 25.4nm, which should be good enough.
@janthran
@janthran Жыл бұрын
you could also use an array of 4 different lasers to achieve higher resolution on the same area
@hvanmegen
@hvanmegen 11 ай бұрын
Hey, another other guy with that swiss accent!
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