Lasse Viren, Munchenin 5000m

5000m:n loppuratkaisut Munchenissä 1972.

[@user-uo8wn2uh6e]

Лассе Вирен - мой кумир! В 1968 году написал ему письмо. Я тренировался в то время со сборной СССР у Владимира Куца в Пятигорске (но в составе сборной не состоял. Лучший результат на "десятке" - 29 мин. 43,8 сек.). Об этих годах мои воспоминания - Яндекс Николай Углов "Жить без болезней" Литрес, Амазон, Озон и моб. прилож. тел. Сейчас мне 81. Бегаю три раза в неделю в Кисловодском парке

[@YiftertheShifter1]

I think we can all make a strong case for Viren being the greatest Olympic runner in history. Though you may mention Nurmi, let us not forget that five of his nine gold medals were won in events that are now defunct; as for Emil Zapotek... well, first of all you have to qualify for the Olympic Marathon, so your first Marathon can't come in the Olympic games, and second his winning time was 10 minutes slower than Viren's fifth place finish. Viren and his double double: unparalleled.

[@YiftertheShifter1]

I usually judge that on three criterion: best performances (personal bests), consistency, and titles, with other categories like longevity, win streaks, head to heads, etc... factoring in. Viren may not have been the most consistent runner, but his personal bests were world records when set, and his Olympic triumphs are unprecedented. Yes: based on my criterion, Viren is one of the best.

[@Oskuliiiii]

Saatanan kova äijä. Ei voi muuta sanoa! ❤

[@fr556]

Viren was an amazing runner...great race.

[@Pineforest100]

Good race - pure entertainment - for that we need the winner, the other medalists and the rest of the competitors:) All have their roles. 1. Viren 2. Puttemans 3. Steward

[@Oni1One]

He was asked how he feels about those moments now. He replied that: "It is nice to remember those moments in my sporting career. It was the pinacle of my career and the most important event of my life and I achieved it because I set it as my most important goal in my career."

[@VideoVuplake]

poo72: Ilmeisesti Pren äkkiväärä persoona ja varhainen kuolema ovat tehneet hänestä legendan, jonka palvonta saa välillä koomisiakin piirteitä. Ehkä Mills, Schul, Shorter, Rodgers, Spivey, Scott, Kennedy ja monet muuta Pretä kovemmat juoksijat olivat/ovat liian "normaaleja" saadakseen osakseen vastaavaa. Anyway, olisihan se ollut jännä nähdä Pre Montrealissa häviämässä Lasselle uudemmankin kerran. Pre oli kovakuntoinen taistelija, mutta se taktinen silmä...

[@YiftertheShifter1]

@mahtivaari72 Prefontaine actually did place second in some European races (including one around the time of this race), and even won a race in Oslo. The LA times mile has international competitors, so maybe we can notch that up too. Other than that, Pre's chances of winning in Montreal are very much exaggerated.

[@mahtivaari72]

This was Prefontaine's best international performance. His ghost did not win in Montreal 4 years later even though Americans seem to think so.

[@kingwilson06ad]

Viren corrio los ultimos 1500 metros de la final de los 5000 metros en Montreal en un tiempo que le hubiera puesto cuarto en la final de los 1500 metros!!! Y al dia siguiente corrio la maraton y acabo quinto... todo un hito

[@YiftertheShifter1]

Pre lost to Viren. Pre won zero medals. Pre set zero world records. Pre won zero international races. Viren won four Olympic golds, set three world records (5000m, 10000m, 2 miles), two Olympic records, and ran more meters in one Olympiad (1976) than any other runner in history. Viren was the best. Pre settles for fourth, or more properly (and a great foreshadowing in these words) "DIES in the final strides."

[@YiftertheShifter1]

A special day in the history of Finnish athletics: for the first time since 1928, Finland sweeps the 1500, 5000, and 10000m, the former two happening on the same day.

[@xx-nb8ow]

I love Suomi sisu! Never give up! Just roasting the boys. And they went TOAST!😅

[@MrRazorblade999]

They had no chance against blood doping

[@Pineforest100]

New races to came by that day without any bigger pretalks Viren gave others something to wonder and let them wander after final curve:)

[@docpj72]

Viren ran the perfect race-much is made about Pre-ultimately he made a gutsy move and it cost him a medal-in reality he wasn't the best runner there- Gamouddi already had 2 Olympic medals to his credit and Pre would have had 3rd if he didn't move at 200m to go, but he wouldn't have won that race regardless of how he ran it-in fairness, he was only 21, and his real shot at gold was Montreal but the rest is history as they say...

[@MANSIKKASUKLAAADTA]

ONE OF MY IDOLS

[@samspencer582]

Viren näyttää mitä suomalainen sisu on. Kova jätkä!

[@YiftertheShifter1]

Uh... yeah, can you think of anybody who has run an Olympic final (AND WON IT :))) less than 24 hours before running 26.2 miles? Scratch that, make it TWO FINALS, 10000m HEATS AND FINALS, 30000m TOTAL, as opposed to Shorter who, like all the other marathon runners, had experience at the distance and were well rested prior. It's a tremendous accomplishment for someone in those circumstances to even finish the marathon, let alone in the top 10, or even 5!

[@jozla]

mun idolit viren. gammoudi jne

[@toby099]

look at that sneaky guy at the end passing pre and pushing him out of the medals , very sneaky

[@kingwilson06ad]

did you meet Viren or any of the other runners in that final?

[@kolotordoc]

Pero también tenía un "finish" espectacular. Gran velocidad en los últimos 250-300 metros. Entrenaba eso específicamente.

[@SITRUUNAUTZFY]

mun idoli

[@Zen_Tiago]

viren eres un maestro si a prefontaine que fue un perdedor le hicieron dos peliculas a ti minimo una saga de peliculas a lo rocky...le ganaste a leyendas como pre en munich, al gran carlos lopes ganador de la maraton de los angeles 84 , al genial john walker ganador de los 1500 de montreal. menudos contrincantes....viren estas en mi galeria de idolos , junto con el diego

[@juha2031]

Aina kun katson Viren aiheisia videoita, niin joku paasaa siitä edesmenneestä jenkistä. Olisipa säästynyt hengissä niin ei tarvitsisi kuunnella jossitteluja.

[@MrPP1959]

Nii just, mua ottaa päähän toi sama homma, mutta otti sitten alkoholia ja ajoi...

[@vesalatvala5351]

Jenkit yrittää tehdä hänestä moraalisen voittajan mutta ainakin tässä juoksussa hän oli täysi hölmö !

[@YiftertheShifter1]

Oh, I forgot about that... if that's the only one... my point still sorta stands to be corrected.

[@Zen_Tiago]

correcto tienes razon al gran gammoudi precursor de los atletas africanos campeones de fondo y dominadores actuales...y el gran frank shorter medalla de oro de la maraton de munich....tienes razon ....y el gran putemans el belga de gran corazon

[@OMENASOSEAFYTA]

my idol

[@cob4128]

possibley the greatest of all time

[@papmjny]

@NevesinjeGun1875 Arthur Lydiard wan head coach when Lasse was closin top of thwe world

[@jussix48]

❤🔥👍👍👍👍

[@mansikkarahka-tn4ml]

AMAZING

[@Zen_Tiago]

y que si se hizo transfusiones de sangre, no estaba prohibido, no eran sustancias prohibidas, que en 1988 las prohibieran ya no es culpa de el, ademas nunca acepto que lo hubiera hecho y si lo hizo??? no fue en su año.

[@YiftertheShifter1]

@toby099 But Prefontaine and the others came to win, not to show that they have "courage and balls." There can be one Olympic champion in the event, and that goes to the winner. The winner, whichever way he/she wins (provided it's legal) gets the gold medal; if he shows courage and guts, great, that accentuates the prize. But showing "courage and balls," then fading to 4th is not a replacement for winning.

[@xxthatpookieeditsxx]

Very true...

[@niv06290]

Absolutely ... with the exception of Pre!

[@englishman1960]

Viren was a policeman.he would never break the law by taking drugs.

[@kingwilson06ad]

Yes, it was legal, but a lot of the criticism of today gears around the ethics of using a performance-enhancing technique (regardless of whether it was legal at the time or not) to win a race. Because it was legal at the time and because Viren kept denying having boosted and losing some easy money makes me conclude he never blood-doped.

[@AnitCsah]

What does he say at the end of the video?

[@_AHTOXA_]

Финны, BRAVO!👍

[@VideoVuplake]

Why Pre did that tactical movements???Very talented runner, but compared Viren...Good runner!

[@AnitCsah]

ok, thank you!

[@VideoVuplake]

Jenkkien Pre-hehkutus on kyllä kummallisimpia ilmiöitä näissä piireissä...

[@kolotordoc]

Es correcto, además en esa época no era nada ilegal, como ahora. También entrenaba con repeticiones de 400 mts, como lo hizo otro de los grandes: Emil Zatopeck. Pero ahora, la escena del mediofondoy fondo la dominan los africanos. Etíopes, kenianos, tanzanos y nigerianos son los que mandan. Una muestra es el maratón de Nueva York. Hasta cuándo? Veremos el surgimiento de una nueva élite de corredores? Veremos...

[@niv06290]

Apparently Shifter has forgotten about Frank Shorter, as well ... sheesh! Come to think of it, didn't he clobber Viren in the '76 Olympic marathon ... lol!

[@caravaggio31]

Viren was who Prefontaine would like to be.

[@jameswilliams663]

But atleast Steve was not a blood doper...

[@anskulehtis6526]

🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮😭😭

[@SITRUUNAUTZFY]

en ollut ehkä elossa tuolloin mutta nostan tän korkealle

[@_AHTOXA_]

Красиво из "корбочки" за 150 метров до финиша выбрался

[@toby099]

Prefontaine had more courage and balls than the rest of the runners. Winning isn't everything..........

[@xxthatpookieeditsxx]

You don't need balls and courage to win the 5000 gold medal in the olimpic. You need to run with the leaders and have a devastating kick in the last 300 m. 38.5 would make you a champ.

[@niv06290]

@VirenKickedPresAss Yeah, ironically, Frank placed 5th in the 10K ...

[@PaulVinonaama]

@MrJuha82 You misunderstood me. Stewart won the bronze quite fairly. My comment was meant as irony against those silly American Pre-fans who think that beating their hero was a crime in itself. Ymmärsit väärin. Stewart voitti pronssin täysin reilusti. Kommenttini oli tarkoitettu ironiaksi niitä hassuja amerikkalaisia faneja kohtaan, joiden mielestä Prefontainen voittaminen oli itsessään rikos.

[@PAARYNASOSE-om7is]

mun idoli ja toinen on prefontaine

[@YiftertheShifter1]

Oh, sorry. I meant taking gold in these three events. My mistake.

[@js62066]

Hello

[@papmjny]

Arthur Lydiard wan head coach when Lasse was closin top of thwe world

[@NevesinjeGun1875]

Can someone translate the conversation... Thanks!

[@js62066]

Nah

[@YiftertheShifter1]

I wonder how he can be so calm 1:31- 1:52... If I was passed like that, I'd get on my feet and fight back for the lead as best as I possibly could... No, Viren is so self-assured that he can just float around and win by 10 meters in the home straight.

[@zaizai2027]

Pre превратил унылый медленный бег в потрясающее представление. Исполнив свое обещание пробежать последнюю милю за 4 минуты. Безрассудно, эмоционально, с множеством ускорений, которые помешали занять ему более высокое место - но он вдохнул дух спорта, сделал бег живым и очень человеческим.

[@user-lr8ex7iz2c]

Вирен. профессор бега на Олимпиаде.

[@jankku9496]

Mitenköhän Suomen juoksu saataisiin taas tälle tasolle?

[@neemtee]

oikeilla dousseilla

[@funkadelicatessen]

Lopettamalla juokseminen kokonaan Afrikan maissa.

[@PaulVinonaama]

Ainakin pitäisi kieltää kännykät, videopelit ja joukkueurheilu.

[@MrVicarpeggio]

There was a joke about Viren as he was a police officer that he would chase down speeders.

[@FinnMove]

Mun oma kommentti on se, että puheet dopingista ovat turhia. Ei kukaan tiedä varmasti miten asiat olivat silloin. Esimerkiksi satoja NL: n ja DDR: n voittoja voitaisiin spekuloida samalla lailla.

[@huudamu1884]

MUN IDOLI JA HERRASMIES

[@MARMELADIOFTPY]

hieno mies

[@VADELMAHILLO-dl2wc]

TÄSSÄ ON SITÄ JOTAIN

[@kingwilson06ad]

sisu Viren

[@niv06290]

Apparently Shifter the Ignoramous has forgotten about Meb Keflezighi, who took silver in the Marathon in 2004. Compare that to the medal count of the Finns, which is of of course ... zero ... if you don't count Karrlo Maaninka,and I dont, as he later admitted to doping - something Viren never had the guts to do ... Pre lives, dude! LOL!

[@pekkaraty9494]

Lasse on ollut koko elämäni suurin esimerkki

[@MARSIPAANIKAKKU-wj6oy]

AIVAN HUIPPUA...LASSE JOS KUKA OLI SE ONE AND ONLY

[@Pineforest100]

oooops... 2. Gammoudi :)

[@DavidGarcia-h5l]

Come lasse.. you should be able to speak any language.. just shift gears ..as you do on the track...

[@j0wled]

Blood doping was legal. What are you gonna do?

[@PaulVinonaama]

@toby099 Yea, what an arrogance and insult to sportsmanship to pass "pre"! :-D

[@pasi.klemetti2832]

Pre prpbably didn't concentrate to OG. Raced too much. For Viren OG the only goal and generally it has been for Finns allways.

[@MrKLindholm]

Pre-is-nothing

[@niv06290]

No - Pre was the best because he inspired millions of runners ... as well as the pathetic obsession of guys like you and Shifter. I just don't get it ... lol!

[@xxthatpookieeditsxx]

I was a young runner in the early seventies. Who inspired me? When I watched the men 10000m final of the 1971 Europian Championship I saw something what never before. It was a devastating kick at the end performed by Juha Vatainen and Jurgen Haase. It was inspiring.

[@charlesporter1148]

people are always looking for an excuse instead of just getting the job done....this idea of blood doping by viren is about as inane as it gets...viren won by shear talent and the ability to use tactics to his advantage and that includes always knowing how to position himself...of course he could have eliminated tactics by pulling a herb Elliot and just racing away from the competition...viren and Clarke could have teamed up together for an assault on both 13:00 and 27:00 barriers....clarke was ahead of his time pace wise and better than viren pace wise but lacked virens finishing drives...

[@jozla]

mun idoli