Last Epoch's "Harbingers of Ruin" Full Overview - The Crucial First Post-Launch Update

Nothing sets the tone of an online game's post launch lifecycle like it's first major update - Last Epoch's Harbingers of Ruin is set to be it's first big update since launch and it's bringing a new Pinnacle Boss, the Harbiner bosses, a new faction, the Nemesis item crafting system and some much needed endgame progression and quality of life changes.
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[@curlybloke101]

People say this game is not for long time PoE players. I myself played PoE for 7 years, but I simply don't have enough time to feel good about playing PoE and I LOVED LE 1.0 to the point that I cannot wait for 1.1 and dont have plans to start new season of PoE. I think LE is for people like me - people who love PoE but simply lack time or dont want to sink all of it into a game. Plus we get to be there for the start of a "new" awesome arpg. How many of us wish we'd been there for the beginning of D2 or PoE...

[@SlCKNESS_]

The problem with PoE is all (the gameplay) starts to feel the exact same after a while. That's why people tend to make spreadsheets more than they actually play the game, cause the only difference is in the theory-crafting. And even that becomes the same after a while.

[@max417481]

Heeeeell yeah borther😅

[@ryancornehlsen6401]

Same here man. I’ve played Poe since beta off and on but LE just feels better for me due to time requirements. Plus, in LE I feel like I can explore a lot more with builds without being punished. POE is a great game but I’m just enjoying LE more.

[@ZachMaynard]

Not super excited as there isn’t much more content with this patch. Just a couple bosses. I’m going to play it but would love more to do in the games. Poe on the other hand has lots of content, we are lucky to have options!

[@nonstandard5492]

you didn't miss much at the beginning of PoE lol it was pretty rough for a hot minute there

[@NotFinalTillVinyl]

That change to blessings is pretty huge. Farming them is such a slog and made switching builds/gear around such a huge pain and really demotivating. I think this is going to be a much bigger QoL change than people may give it credit for.

[@LeCrapaud-sy1xu]

I hated alts for this exact reason

[@nr1771]

Glad to hear that you've been helping them out by testing the pinnacle boss, Ziggy! Hopefully it'll be well-balanced at launch. The patch looks quite good.

[@tindekappa9047]

It takes so much time and or rng to grind to get to endgame bosses in poe that I have to get excited for new bosses in other games.

[@metasyntax42]

For me, the skill balancing will be the make or break. I’m happy there will be more to push for at endgame, but I hope they hit the mark on the skills. Not looking for perfect, but significant improvement its important.

[@Xeratas]

The fact they don't release the boss to standard for a while is amazing. It makes the boos chase realy exciting to watch

[@ShaddyzZz]

Been playing LE since long before it even had MP. For sure i’ll play it. I always come back for a new update and try it for a week or two. Sometimes longer if i try a few different builds. Its a solid ARPG, with arguably the best and most interesting crafting system in the genre.

[@fuhckerschite]

I am hyped! Will be there watching you stream on the 9th!!!!

[@nicknicksiren]

I've yet to purchase Last Epoch but I'm still keeping in the loop. I'm intrigued to see how it improves over time and adds more polish and content like this, so even though I'm still waiting I'm quite keen to hop in when the time feels right. No particular reason, just haven't felt the need to rush into it yet. Thanks for the vid!

[@JezzyHsu]

I hope the launch goes smoothly and servers stay strong, then I can play online and see MTX pets 😅

[@Fallub]

Great video. I am already excited. Thank you.

[@xXbillymaysXx]

My hope with all the ward changes is that hybrid (health/ward) builds pop up more

[@MacGregor3]

dang thats alot of slam dunks. Reworked skills/balance changes kinda put the weight on content creators to create hype, but hopefully the playerbase of LE can see the potential shift with the rework to channeled spells. Generally very positive, but as per usual, server stability comes first when it comes to people's perception - nothing like not being able to play the game to fuel an angry gamer mob on reddit :]

[@monawoka97]

I will 100% be playing this. I am stoked to ride along on the epoch train :D

[@setogod7]

nice love those QOL for item search it already had the best but had tons of room that even i knew how it could have been better

[@riftis2210]

This is a good step in the right direction but I found last epochs endgame a bit boring and I don't think this will be enough to pull me back. maybe after two or three more updates like this ill play.

[@Jerry_Owens]

Have similar thoughts

[@LeonaDiCarryo]

My biggest complaint about LE's launch, was the lack of end game content. I totally understood why it was lacking. You can't expect a new arpg to launch with the same amount of endgame content as PoE. So what I was looking forward to, was to see whether they would focus on expanding the end game in the first major update, or not. And it seems like that is exactly what they did. This has definitely made me excited to play again

[@teridero1]

the launch issues felt nostalgic pretty broad, instead of the niche or 1% issues poe nowadays has at launch

[@snatcher81]

I'll give it a try, but if the server issues are bad with long load times, I'll keep trying out the first descendant instead until Poe's next league.

[@loreweaver12]

Pinnacle boss does sound pretty fun so might give it a go this new patch. Hope that they will add challenges or a variant to give more to chase in the end game though.

[@Rosarosa106]

I’m so freaking hyped for this update

[@trable1344]

Hi! Will you continue to play acid flash falconer? If so, could you make a mining filter for 1.1? I really love this build

[@sabbathguy1]

Looks like something worth coming back to since I'm in the PoE2 waiting room and this will be a nice distraction. I have given up PoE1 since last league and I don't regret it one bit.

[@Sherudons]

"Tried it" for a while in EA and it had some promise though I was worried a 1.0 would be slapped on and next editions come with paid dlc. I'm glad they didn't go that route, so I bought it and will likely go at it along with poe for my arpg fix, still needs more stuff but that's coming, though I would like to see more skill interactions, some do feel like they don't combo well with it's class very much, or set/uniques to alter more skills.

[@Lordi19941]

WITH THE POWER OF MATH! ... haha, thanks for making me laugh. And yeah the updates seems pretty pog

[@cr6458]

Still the second best ARPG, and this all sounds like an excellent direction, putting even more distance between them and D4

[@SilversTaurus]

Now I understand why Wall of Nothing has those stats. Better get ready for the next cycle!

[@matthra]

Looks fun.

[@mrnice4434]

Lets hope that they don't have so much lag and problems of being stuck in loading screen as last time, because if that happens again I don't think ppl will come back for the next cycle.

[@GerriFuryman]

Never played arpg online because I never trade, so there is 0 reasons to play it online. Was playing LE in offline mode from day 1 and was just enjoying a shit ton, while people crying about online while they never even interact with anyone.

[@mrnice4434]

@@GerriFuryman yeah thats fine but I think most ppl enjoy the online mode.

[@Cooldrew100]

hell yeah brother

[@Nhire]

What do you mean enemies feel like they dont take more dmg? They explained bosses had adaptive damage reduction, the higher ur burst dps, the more reduction they got. Which was prolly the worst mechanic that punished min maxed builds

[@Matsmellwood]

I can't resist this but...If it is their first major update, it is by definition, its most important one yet. And also its least important, and worst, and best :D

[@Schatten.mensch]

Still haven't played last epoch - it looks really good and I like that they are attempting to learn from PoEs mistakes and their own previous mistakes. I'm likely going to play it at some point, but I went a bit too hard on the current PoE League after a long break from the game. (Trying to get a bit further into the endgame than I do usually and at least managed to do Searing Exarch and Eater of Worlds even if I still have issues with the guardians.) ... so I'm a bit played out on arpgs for the minute and my wrist needs a rest, but afterwards Last Epoch sounds like a great option ^^

[@lolleonlolable]

game needs some srs balancing some builds just litterally facetank anything on 1-2k corruption with 50-100k ward and idk 5-10k ward per secnd and others just die from random oneshots on like 100-200corruption because they only have like 4-5k life or ward. also it takes way too much time to push corruption, i remember the empy grp just didnt push more corruption because its taking too long. also all that bugs etc, i remember getting oneshot in this dungeon thing with no enemys on the screen getting like offscreend by some glowy orb that was flying to me from stuff i killed like 3 screen ago or some shit.

[@GerriFuryman]

You never supposed to get even to 1k corruption. They expect people to sit on 300. Ward builds just broke the game. All stats is for 300-400 corruption. They nerf ward for this patch but people think they need to nerf it more still, now you will have about 20k ward at max instead of 150k on max power

[@lolleonlolable]

@@GerriFuryman 20k seems more reasonable, still high but thats fine, ward isnt even that good if u dont have the ward regen to back it up, i hope they get the balancing right because i kinda like the game. but 20k is still alot, makes u semi immortal vs alot of stuff if ur not like 1k corruption or somehting.

[@GerriFuryman]

@@lolleonlolable it’s not a lot) now you will lose ward rly fast after 4k total ward. To the point that all your ward will disappear in a second. Without rly high ward generation. And don’t expect to have 18k , it was comparison to most broken numbers you can get

[@taronzgaming7739]

New evade? Don't know what you're talking about. There is only crab.

[@ZachMaynard]

Need more content! A couple bosses isn’t enough imo

[@dogebestest7187]

The update looks good, ill check it out once im done with elden ring

[@max417481]

Started mid jun and im haveing tons of fun, for a 2 hoursish per day casual daddy this game sutes me well😅

[@dirtnap9641]

I mostly agree with the title, but I think the real testament, will be the end of their 1 year road map.

[@gadsanchez4929]

They have been cooking very hard

[@goul7712]

Glyph of Envy is good on items that have an affix you really want (- throwing mana rings etc.) that are crap otherwise.

[@ezpz2680]

Very poggies

[@Azarath26]

Is there any change to storyline? Didn't they add something for the Ancient Era?

[@vitoroliveira1451]

Coming on 1.2 according to the roadmap

[@Azarath26]

@@vitoroliveira1451 I knew I saw it somewhere... That's right, it was on the road map. Thanks.

[@kirilladam8311]

the one major update and it's most important amongst itself? no shit man?

[@Riiw9]

"First Major Update Harbingers of Ruin Will Be It's Most Important One Yet" I mean, its the only one yet so of course its gonna be the most important one

[@ZiggyDGaming]

Game has many updates throughout it's development! But I see your point heh

[@kulegleg]

is it applied today? my last epoch just patched right now

[@TheCooderix]

Its*

[@Straggler8]

Adding the evade roll to the game is much bigger deal than people think it is - it's basically new core mechanic and it even has different animations for every character and even shapeshift forms! Imagine how much work it would normally take to do something like that and they did it between the seasons. I'm not hating on other ARPGs, but Blizzard and GGG basically needed to release a new game to add the dodge roll as a baseline. It's really impressive tbh

[@lengyelrudolf3107]

What about the multiplayer issues??That was most of the time unplayable in multi😊

[@TheRealTrucido]

soild

[@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS]

Optimization and corruption is what turned me away. Loved every part of the game but my character was walking through and one shotting everything until I got bored around 600 corruption.

[@rinaldskudlans7236]

They literally capped ward at like 7k or 10k max in extreme scenarios, and buffed it for campign, nerfed too hard for my liking

[@truedps8]

We'll see, Last Epoch is a decent game, but it's monolith system is honestly just boring. Without a drastic, and I mean seriously drastic overhaul to monoliths I am not sure if LE will ever get me to play more than a few days.

[@snatcher81]

LE is a 1 week max game for me, needs more content.

[@GerriFuryman]

lol monolith was the most fun end game for me, I never had any fun farming maps in PoE while in LE I was playing every day.

[@snatcher81]

@@GerriFuryman But there is nothing happening, you get your build together, after that you just farm for higher stats, but nothing to use the better char and build for. At least in PoE you can always make maps harder and harder, so you need a better char. But in LE you dont need a really good char to do everyhing.

[@GerriFuryman]

@@snatcher81 rly? Corruption is literally what PoE tiers is. So your comparison is invalid.

[@snatcher81]

@@GerriFuryman There is nothing new, and no more mob density, so the same, just harder. Just like D3 had, just run higher and higher, but its still the same.

[@-dmm]

definitely might come back to try it. I enjoyed the game when 1.0 dropped but I just ended up loses interest. I believe the animations made me feel this way. It doesn't feel like anything when you play. Usually you can "feel" a swing or something. The animation for a slam attack in this game just looks so bleh. I hope they can focus more on making this game feel a lot better sooner rather than later. The new evade spacebar ability is such a good addition btw and also an actual boss at the end. If they keep doing this, then this game will be pretty good good. I want D4 to get better but idk. I would prefer to rotate between PoE 2 and Last Epoch.

[@1darkholme]

I felt mostly the same way as you about 1.0. As for 1.1 - i don't think there is enough new content and i also expect a good portion of it to just not function on release. Remember how they specifically showed Spine of Malatros amongst other uniques that change how skills work in 1.0 release trailer and it wasn't working for over a month? And then they "fixed" it and was still shit and noone played it. Just one of many many examples of how they work. Imagine if some of the new uniques from new bosses get the same treatment. Along with the usual server issues, broken skill interactions that don't get fixed for months because they "don't want mid cycle nerfs", etc. I think i'll skip this one, maybe come back after a few more updates. I also find it weird how you talk about ward changes, especially when you do also show the graph. It's a straight up nerf(well needed one), 3% slower ward decay when under 4k won't do anything, there is no positive outcome for any ward builds from that change. I'll stil be watching your LE content, really like your videos.

[@cashandraven2369]

No goodwill was burned by anyone who has a functioning brain. This is an indie dev putting out a AAA title for the first time. They did a wonderful job with launch, it was going to have issues, all launches do. Anyone who bitched about the online function simple doesn't understand the complexity that comes with this sort of thing.

[@focusidiotus1180]

tbh, the forgotten knight faction "screen" looks anticlimactic and cheap af. GGG is creative with stuff like that and just doesn't to "ranks" imagine the buildup to searching exarch would be "kill fire lady 10 times and level faction up to rank 10 then you can fight him" Thank god poe doesn't do stuff like this. Reminds me of warframe factions(not good).

[@TERRYEE88]

first to like and comment

[@Venvaneless]

Unfortunately the nerf hammer to skills that weren’t even good to begin with, and to weaker classes like Acolyte - which lacks the switness that many of the other ones have and is the weakest of them all, made me lose interest in the upcoming cycle. Fortunately the game has Unity engine so I will play offline with mods which will allow me to play the game however I want without restrictions and the need to again grind factions

[@kickit246]

Does anyone know if the forge guard has been updated a bit? That's the class that looks coolest for me, thematically. But I dont want to play an underpowered class and fall behind my friends.

[@NamelessThun]

i just hope they make ranger builds playable without rapidfire. i love bow builds but rapidfire is such a shit skill

[@williamschubert4819]

You mean flurry?

[@richard392]

This game is better then d 4 that stupid escuse for a game with no bagspace is about to drop a expansion costing au 79 bucks laughable. Played this since beta and will support a team that knows what we crave challenging bossfights and finding clever 200 ways to kill it without a masters degree in physics crafting gear. So glad youre helping them you legend ! Titan quest 2 needs its own video btw ziggy We need to encourge devs that listen to us ! Take our money but dont rip us off with half baked escuses for crapping all over us with obvious bad player experiences is all i ask.

[@Elhazzared84]

Not really exciting news. For me LE always had 2 issues. First being making it too hard to actually get the right item with the right affixes at tier 5. The bazar certainly helped but it wasn't a be all end all because the amount of items in the bazar for the build in question was always low. Then there is a minion problem for minion builds. Minions just don't deal enough damage nor do they have enough survivability and that leads to playing minions being extremely disapointing and unsatisfying which is what I like to play.

[@bruvkek4629]

fighting another boss after boss fight doesn't seem exciting to me

[@spencermanning1493]

wtf is that title, obviously it's their most important one yet it's the first one, jfc

[@AnilKumardoc]

Other than Wolcen, Last Epoch has been one of the buggiest ARPGs I have played in last few years. I truly hope they do not release the new content without fixing the glaring bugs first.

[@curlybloke101]

What bugs are we talking about? If you mean some skill bugs which made them OP, i guess thats fair, but what are the bugs that make the game bad?

[@alexanderpushkin9160]

I only want the game to be polished. I'm so tired of half baked game releases.

[@joshuahensley9395]

The game was essentially unplayable for a week, I do not have the patience for this game to do that again.

[@Zikkar]

Played fine for me. Sounds like a your computer problem

[@ZiggyDGaming]

They did have some long server issues unfortunately. I played offline though and it was flawless but hopefully online is smooth this go! It's got the benefit of having run for months now smoothly.

[@fuhckerschite]

@@Zikkar There were a lot of server issues. I played offline at launch and avoided them, but they were there. From what the devs have said though, it should be much better now.

[@jcm2606]

From what the devs said, it was a backend match making service that failed on launch, which then spilled over into other services. Since launch they've completely replaced and/or rewritten their entire networking stack, including changing server providers, replacing a networking software package with their own in-house one, scaling up the backend match making service that failed, and more. It should be better this time, fingers crossed.

[@snatcher81]

Sounds like you didn't play at launch

[@lankymoose1831]

players: how many league/content names will you be stealing from POE? devs: yes

[@ZiggyDGaming]

To be fair, at this point PoE has probably used just about every word somewhere at some point xD

[@redrum3r]

static map games shouldn't bother with seasonal content

[@devon752]

The problem with Last Epoch is the fake power that you have. You either discover something strong that melts and it automatically gets nerfed or you do dumb shit and get it buffed. As long as that system is implemented I will never play this game.

[@tehprell]

what?

[@devon752]

@@tehprell kzbin.infom8eMoSdNjGQ

[@LeyzrProductions]

isn't "epoch" pronounced like "epic"?

[@AbrahamLincoln_]

No

[@xMarissaB]

American is "epic" and British is "e-pock".

[@TheThreeDGrasshopper]

huh... neat! I've, USA boi here, been calling it like "ee-pok" because it looks similar to the name Enoch/Enock (thanks, grammy).😅