TINY Particle Cannons! | Particle Cannon Update & MORE!!

More is an understatement here, the particle cannon additions are just the start!
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[@Lathland]

So a few things - This video was recorded quickly on my 'Day off' day just because I wanted to check these things out so was a little rushed so I could still fufill my other commitments, so a few things were not quite right or I left out when I really should have left in! A) - You still need ammo and fuel boxes, these are what control the transfer rate of materials from storage to engines (Fuel boxes) and weapons (Ammo boxes) 2 ) - The degree of fire of the weapons was not quite what I was saying, because.. I just derped, even though I got this right countless times before in past videos my brain decided to change It's mind! e.g. a 90 degree arc of fire does NOT mean 90 degrees up and 90 degrees down, It means 45 up and 45 down. This means I was talking about the arc of fire incorrectly at a few points in the video! iii ) Math Is hard with damage lost per 100m -> 1km... If you are as rushed as I was, anyway!

[@RealStitchie]

This is a nice video Lathrix! You should make the Wall-E turrets so spammable so we can have glorious red particle spam!

[@angelomatulac3764]

he said a 2 and iii on purpose i swear

[@flouyume2020]

Oh please give the turret on top of froggit the design of a fez or your hat

[@fantasypvp]

@@angelomatulac3764 Lol of course he did it deliberately 😎

[@Core-1948]

Lathland what about putting a massive spinal pac down the center of the carrier.

[@kayabaj]

Idea: replace the right eyes of the frog god with small particle cannons and left eyes with anti-munitions lasers. Frog God the defender and destroyer.

[@Travminer123]

Just replace the left eye with a particle cannon lens then the Frog will give you a bad time

[@kayabaj]

@@Travminer123 Frog God is displeased with your presence Flying Squirrel, be banished into the Shadow Realm!

[@pyrenviii3053]

He attac *and* protecc

[@dracoplayz2757]

All hail the Frog god

[@user-fz9mh4od7y]

Make the hole thing a turrent

[@GeneralSnowball73]

with his final mini designs, he literally took dallek heads and put them on the ship

[@LordDragox412]

*BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! EXTERMINATE FOR EXTERMINATUS!*

[@TheFearsomeRat]

EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

[@quitreadingmyname7615]

EXTERMINATE

[@henryattfield8979]

Love the Red Dwarf reference "We can't possibly do that... who'd clean up the mess?"

[@waffletracktor]

YESSSSS Man i haven't heard a red dewarf referance in so long :D was really hoping someone else would catch it too

[@thetyrant5669]

Yes, it's amazing to hear someone reference it

[@purryclaws]

But where's the gingham party dress, pretty pigtails and combat army boots? *glares menacingly with penguin puppet hex vision*

[@henryattfield8979]

@@waffletracktor Good there are people of great taste among us still. I am complementing you sorry if I sound sarcastic. I'm happy he did the reference even if no one else got it, but thankfully someone(s) did.

[@mynameisblankmynameisblank1988]

17:48 Lathrix = Eggman confirmed -both create robots that consistently have faces -both love explosions and mayhem -both are followers and lovers of chaos -both have a generally red color scheme -both talk to robots more then is healthy -constantly plotting to take over the galaxy/sea/world Someone get this man a hedgehog antagonist!!

[@yellomonky4272]

“Focus on the focus on the focus, wait, yeah focus on the focus” -Lathrix 2020

[@Psyconinja1532]

*queue top gear intro* TONIGHT: Froggit sees all, Rambot gains sentience, and Lathrix slowly loses his sanity

[@mugenokami2201]

Implying he still has sanity

[@KitomiKotiri]

I like twilight zone music more

[@BaconsTV]

You still need fuel boxes as these need to transfer materials to the engines... If you don't have enough to keep up with demand your engines can choke. This is the same for ammo boxes, they govern the transfer rate from materials to ammo to your weapons, having less and you will use up the ammo and lose fire rate.

[@Lathland]

Yup yup! One of the many things I decided not to talk about as this video was already a bit too wordy for a short just quick look type of thing, I do talk about this really early in the next video (Already got that footage down!) Looking back I think I should have mentioned It here to.. to the pinned comment you go! :D

[@BaconsTV]

@@Lathland xD sweet

[@yellomonky4272]

@@BaconsTV rawr xD

[@nathaniel1207]

@@Lathland a word on ammo boxes, if u hit one, it acts like you had all of them in on spot, they can and will blow a 50 meter hole in a ship. ammo racking ships has gotten far more effective.

[@yurlaghter]

We all know the resource simplafaction is bs. You should have a word with the dev team in the official discord telling them how point less this is. They might listen to you seeing how your the only thing keeping their game alive.

[@timlehmann9067]

Hmmm... A submarine with a single huge particle cannon, that surfaces, one-shots a powerful enemy, and then disappears again could be interesting

[@lordjuk1759]

You mean like a real glass cannon?

[@shaunalleyne2003]

Don't even need to surface particle cannons don't get water attenuation unless that changed. Subsea DOOM CANNONS!

[@lukewortendyke6068]

I've made on of these, it can one shot ships ten times it's cost and take no damage.

[@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki]

@@lukewortendyke6068 Exactly, PAC'sub are same OP like Orbital-Laser was back in the day. No drama, no challenge = no funzies and no glory.

[@maramanasa]

Sounds like the alicorn. I can dig it.

[@fenni5047]

The frog now has a terrifyingly dangerous hat.

[@POTUS1126]

If there was a way to stager the cannons, that would sound amazing.

[@thedyingmeme6]

Stagger?? And yeah that would be awesome to have a constant barrage of death

[@POTUS1126]

@@thedyingmeme6 it would be a use for the duel lens design

[@scorpion563]

Just set the delay for firing deferent and boom stagger

[@i_critique_your_vanity7216]

Scorpion 56 the problem is that the delay adds time before every shot, meaning the stagger will get longer and longer

[@scorpion563]

@@i_critique_your_vanity7216 true...

[@danielchristiansen5481]

More damage math! Because of the damage multiplier, both the long and short range lenses are approximately equivalent at ~1km, provided that the damage loss over range is exponential, not additive: Long range lense at 1km: 0.8x(0.98^9) = 0.667 Short range lense at 1km: 1.2x(0.94^9) = 0.687 (3.1% greater) So short range lenses are superior within 1km, long range beyond that.

[@RaydenSavage]

Lathrix you have your math wrong with the lens angles. It's not 45 plus 35, it's 45 plus 17.5. The entire firing arc of the lens is 35 degree, up down left right and every direction in between. Only half of that is used to push it beyond it's maximum rotation or pitch.

[@Lathland]

Yup yup! Added to pinned comment now! :)

[@vixshire3672]

Which for the lazy guy Drawing the fancy stick S in the desk rather than doing math that’s a 62.5

[@DoctorGrim456]

Man, the frog’s really affecting lath

[@Monochromania1]

The frog sees all.👁👁

[@miloumatrix5762]

Imagine having a ship with a hollow inside filled with melee basically eating up anything going trough the middle

[@TheeActualKeyboardWarrior]

The way that "ball" turret aimed upwards was actually so cool I gotta say.

[@ogDoit]

I hope everyones having a great day :D

[@BubaJones]

i am thank you

[@timkienhuis575]

I am to thank you

[@t.w3280]

Thank you

[@warmonsterj]

Have a good day yourself as well

[@ruileite4579]

I kinda am, hope you're all having an awesome day

[@BernardGindrey]

One error in your calculations: 6%/100m is not equal to 60%/1000m. The damage value at 1000 meters would be 100*(0.94^10) which is 53.86%. So the decrease would be ~46%.

[@thedyingmeme6]

_no, no math please_

[@miltoska9708]

Thank you ,I was getting my calculator

[@Lathland]

Yeah wasn't really thinking It through, just said It when quickly going over everything - oops!

[@manyheadedmishaps6182]

At 100 meters you've lost 6% of your original full damage, but go another 100 meters and that only costs you 6% of the 94% damage you had after the first hundred meters. So there's some diminishing returns on the damage loss at range, and actually calculating it out gives you what Bernard posted

[@gonk1244]

you make my brain hurt

[@thegreatautismo3717]

I'm just waiting for him to make a ship where he just rams into the enemy but the front of the ship is shaped like prongs with the melee lasers in between them

[@shaunalleyne2003]

Particle shotgun ram craft. This must now exist!

[@emanuelkubrikstanni4324]

Seaborne death pitchfork, you're a genius!

[@nathanpark1767]

Ive remembered watching your content back so long ago and watching your latest uploads give me such a nostalgic feeling. I remember stumbling across your channel when you uploaded your first robocraft episode and man you sure got me addicted to that game for a looonnng time. I love your content keep up the good work!

[@kelly4187]

I love how the old particle turrets are not only like heads... But how they seem to raise their eyebrows when they go to fire

[@dualrotorhelicopter]

18:00 My man just built an electric discharge nosepass

[@MCP_Blackout]

Demon Froggit is my favorite character in Lathland.

[@omppusolttu5799]

"I am terrible at turrets." -Lathrix literally a SECOND before having his turret one hit kill a flying squirrel.

[@kylejones1336]

I think he meant aesthetically.

[@xaubercrowtv5924]

5:49 Lath:i hit you! Nuca:Hold ma Beer. *Flashy fancy Matrix moves*

[@AdNecrias]

Spinblocks on spinblocks don't have collision and can clip through all. It's always been like that ever since they showed up. It's another thing considered "cheating" not to account for it in the tournament scene.

[@natanoj16]

This made me watch your entire From the Depths 'Neter campaign' series. Or not really entire. I mostly just watch the first 5-10 min to see your creations on each episode. They are beautiful

[@RandomeAncientBadGuy]

I love these little guys put them everywhere on your craft! :D

[@thomasmills4569]

nice to see more from the depths lath

[@thegamingcat3202]

Yay

[@FRESHORANGE5827]

Henlo look wanna drop last vids thing

[@thegamingcat3202]

My dokkaebi main #bosg acog what do you want?

[@notajalapeno4442]

you are first

[@thegamingcat3202]

not a jalapeno ok, i dont care.

[@FRESHORANGE5827]

The Gaming Cat to drop the argument last vid

[@mariouribe3119]

I haven't played FTD in a long time you are my primary news source for the game lol. I dont know why I'm outraged about the ammo/fuel from material.

[@harmonicadude4732]

19:36 those aren’t turrets there Dalek heads.

[@marcusleishman9494]

Dam I've been watching you vid for like 4-5 years now and i still love them all

[@sebbes333]

*@Lathland* 16:20 Used staggered fire, so you don't over-kill the target, but instead can de-direct that damage to another target. (And if you have enough ( x20+ ) tiny tubes then you can basically have an unbroken barrage of shots against an enemy)

[@Lathland]

Very true and why some of my larger weapons do just that, so certainly a good suggestion! But with these firing once every 2 seconds (1 second in some of the tests!) the staggered fire isn't really as effective, especially with the low damage per shot.

[@mach5620]

22:03 Blocks can only interact 1 subobject "down". So a turret on a ship can collide with the ship (sorta, it only checks the origins of blocks, stuff like beams can clip through because they're multiple blocks long), while a turret on another turret can only collide with that first turret. It's basically impossible for the devs to fix (like other bugs involving subobjects like detection/propulsion on spinblocks) without a serious rework, so it's not worth the effort to fix and potentially break a whole host of other things.

[@talhahtaco2035]

Honestly I I find particle cannons interesting but I always found them to be hard to use for me.

[@miltoska9708]

They are really easy to use ,you have to build them like you build a advanced cannon ,with only the firing piece(and the needed connections) above deck, and the rest within the hull/turret ,but people usually use particle cannons as deck guns ,reducing their role to a throwaway weapon

[@completecontrol9878]

You should watch what you could do with 3 by 3 by 9 short range particle cannon array on a bomber. It’s essentially a pac bomber that has one shotted the endgame boss of the scarlet dawn from a lucky shot. Yeah seriously

[@vertu3019]

This episode sounds more like "Lathrix discovers point defense." I will have you know a giant anti missile turret does not count as point defense when it takes a large chunk out of your hull. Point defenses are meant to be small, tiny turrets built to shoot down small things. Larger turrets are more of a defensive system than "point defense" and the LAMS are considered parameter defense like a weaponized Tesla coil. The "ridiculously tiny" particle cannons are a very ideal demonstration of what a point defense turret is. You better use them everywhere Lathrix.. and maybe with less faces.

[@Hiro1oo1]

A broad siding ship that looks like some updated man o' war with teeny lens cannons set to chain fire would look interesting.

[@aidandixon6028]

I'm so excited to use this once it gets released, it'll be so useful for some of my more asthetic designs like my giant flying sith lightning hand.

[@gigawatt6018]

I could see those little particle cannons used as guns on tiny annoying aircraft, like a few small aircraft Lathrix made.

[@Cannabenaut]

The chaos god, Lathrix, has emerged from the warp bearing gifts! What a marvellous lunch time this is turning out to be

[@omentep]

Well that's certainly a very satisfying sound.

[@talhahtaco2035]

I think they should readd centralised resource because some players and new players might want to not use the refineries or transport ships.

[@SilvaDreams]

It's been an option you can turn on for ages.

[@Tonatsi]

@@SilvaDreams They plan to remove it completely tho

[@talhahtaco2035]

@@Tonatsi in the beta branch it's already been removed

[@talhahtaco2035]

@@SilvaDreams in the beta branch and maybe the newest stable branch( might be wrong about stable ) centralised is gone

[@mach5620]

@@talhahtaco2035 You're right about stable, centralised isn't in it. The new commodities system is like getting centralised resources back, though you have to earn it.

[@spinesauce2687]

Love the little cannons, and honestly, they do a lot more damage than expected. I know they're baby targets but they shredded them much more than I expected.

[@Misha-dr9rh]

>Bad at Building >Lathrix Pick one and only one.

[@3lli384]

I like the walkthrough style for the changed stuff 👍

[@Cha0ticdesigns]

He gave our Frog Overlord a hat......that can shatter ship brains. The Frog Overlord approves

[@ddoc8573]

I'm not sure anymore if Lathrix is doing these videos voluntarily. But Rather I get the feeling his sleep paralysis demon is forcing him to. Standing behind him menacingly. Watching his every move, his every word, his every thought. But Lathrix doesn't dare to look over his shoulder. Instead he is driven to please his demon to avoid punishment. Every time Lathrix doesn't fulfill his master's unspoken wishes, the discontent and disdain slice Lathrix's flesh like frozen nails from the deepest pits of hell. Lathrix if you need help, send a sign!

[@BubaJones]

nice video Lath keep it up love your content

[@chusnacho4447]

I dont know why the small particle cannons shooting sounds is so very satisfying

[@TallinuTV]

That's a really interesting change to particle cannons. Some faction ships will need a bit of redesign -- that big white flayers ship comes to mind...

[@RyushoYosei]

Thank you very much for this video it inspired me, on top of also watching borderwise go on about mini custom jets, so I just made a semi effective little swarm fighter craft, that costs less then 3500 materials, and uses dual short range particle cannons. It's decently effective, and I could probably make it better by either lengthening the charge time above 6 seconds *because I currently have it set on more common attack runs rather then longer retreats for charging time, or by making some small changes to give it longer particle tubes, even though they I believe are 3 meter tubes right now.

[@TMac2467]

i like seeing the particle cannons and i really wanna see you do stuff with the scatter lens

[@mattjordan6472]

Looking forward to your new campaign all hail the lathrixian legion!!!!

[@talonpoynton9479]

The most dapper youtube creator

[@ayvinddwyllemacailing4343]

From all the youtubers for me your is the best

[@Apollo___S5]

This is coming along really well but i think i would add a back up rtg battery motor to allow it to limp away if it needs to.

[@TheNeilBlack]

Thanks for inspiring me to try and build an all particle cannon battleship.

[@wildboar222]

It seems to me that if your spamming out the wittle guns you dont really need the overclocking? They perform quite well with just the 5 you had, if you cut the draw you would probably still have a sufficient AA platform

[@chrislewishutabarat1861]

I love your vids so much keep it coming dude👍👍👍👍👍

[@theteutonking3306]

Behold! Further advancement aboard the _Dreadcarrier_

[@generationm2059]

Lathland: "Why do they keep taking to me?" Turrets and Bridge: "KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!"

[@Hickabooboo]

You quoted the Dwarf, I am proud of my fellow countryman

[@travisorich7599]

Pepe the chaos lord is quite the character indeed 😎👍👍

[@diamondjub2318]

Lathrix says "Sir and Sirettes" meaning that he only expects one guy to watch, but an indefinite amount of ladies

[@xn85d2]

How do you know he's not correct?

[@jumboskipper1958]

For the long range particle cannons, you can put them on an oscillating turret, it clips through other turrets and the hull so you effectively have 360° of both axis firing, and you can hide the tubes in the hull of a craft

[@insultinsultan705]

The vertical particle cannon looks like a heavy plasma gun haha

[@wuzz111]

Turret tips: turrets are hard to make to look nice, but some general guidelines, don’t make slopes that are on the ground floor, if your turret is small, make it symmetrical (front and back), also base your turret on turrets from real life, make sure that your turret base is in the middle of the turret and is in the middle of the turret’s cap, large turrets can have an enlarged back like real life battleships. Just base thing of real life.

[@CanalTremocos]

I wasn't too impressed with a real-world design in terms of combat efficiency but it's the perfect stage for videos like this one. Makes the testing much more immersive and gives a nice sense of scale.

[@shaunalleyne2003]

Particle cannon Darts. Particle bombers! Okay gotta load the unstable branch and experiment now.

[@williamleader9147]

Tiny particle cannons now thats got my attention

[@patrickchapman8583]

With all these faces in his builds, it looks like Lathrix is turning all his ships into Gunmen. Are we going to see the drill that will pierce the heavens?

[@salamore8589]

So, I've got a bit of a silly idea. Seeing as the main weapons system of this carrier will be particle cannons, what if that becomes the theme of this craft in more ways than one? What if you were to make a particle cannon *bomber* Since some of them can be given larger charge times, it sounds like it would work excellently for attack runs! Perhaps splitter lenses pointing straight downward on a big chonky armored craft to protect that valuable investment...but if you wanted to get really silly with things, you did mention that the darts are a little outdated in terms of their weapons, right? These short range cannons are so teeny tiny they would fit right under those wings...but it's an expensive thing to just throw at your enemies. Maybe in the nose? By the way, in the off chance that you see this comment, I absolutely adore your videos and I wish you the best! :D

[@flouyume2020]

Aight, Lathrix, Nurgle has blessed you with faces molded into your creations. Also what the hell are you talking about? Your creations are amazing!

[@m.gabrielf]

"The Throne of Faces" would be a neat name for the mothership of Khorne almighty, cheers love the series !

[@onegaireece]

Good old Mr Flibble

[@blazingbl2gamingop794]

This is an orange.

[@Mirkk47]

Aparently, subobject collision isn't based on the whole block but instead it only detects the point of origin. That means if you put a 4m beam horizontally on top of a spin block properly, it'll be able to turn inside a 1x1 space.

[@Triggerhacks]

Leaving this here to help out :D

[@johnfkennedy-official]

your somwhere in my top 3 youtubers (probably 1)

[@projectanmu4546]

you could name it "carrier of tortured faces" XD

[@PixelKnight93]

carful there watching you. The robots are everywhere lol

[@shannontynes425]

One huge omega cannon. On a satellite. Behold, the hammer of dawn

[@kshitijpingle4442]

Yayyy!! more from the depths with Lathrix!!

[@britishneko3906]

Lath: **proceeds to make 30×2 PAC AA**

[@imperialspacemarine1539]

FTD: adds new particle canons lathrix: shows us the beauties also lathrix: picks the 2 most boring canons that are there. seriously dude. You want AA but dont use scatter lenses? you know that birds are nomaly hunted with a shotgun so... built a particle shotgun goddammit. I dont want a single stream of dakka I want a scatered stream of dakka. #ScaterLenseGang also: THE EMPEROR DEMANDS SCATERLENSE ACTION!!!

[@thealgorithm3412]

The Emperor wills more particles enough to put the dark eldar from DoW to shame

[@dethkruzer]

So with the lens that has the ports on the back, would it be easier to make something like a wave motion gun, basically with the gun running most of the length of the ship?

[@noahdials8385]

this aircraft carrier is becoming the skull throne

[@zephyboii1200]

When hypno-toad looks into your soul

[@jarenalburo8423]

Froggit Tower has a new addition to his hat... A Deadly one

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

The blast guns are very good for a DW brawler. They're like shotgun machine guns.

[@Beregorn88]

About the commodities, you have to consider that your ships will consume materials in order to deliver the raw materials to other ships. Using commodities may not be as much inefficient as you might imagine.

[@wrenix9362]

This is the earliest I've ever been lol Enjoying the content though

[@sunnyskies3969]

God I love so much that ftd is back. Thanks for the great works! :3

[@Drbaden]

Turrets on turrets have been passing though each other since they were implemented

[@-JustHuman-]

18:01 Nice Red Dwarf reference :)

[@TheZiiFamily]

Miniature death blasters lovely

[@collin2097]

what you actually need to build is to make a entire deck covered in those small Particle turrets, just the thought of dozen of lazers booping like that is GOOD

[@EATSxBABIES]

Idea for the series, instead of using Warhammer or old god lore for themes everything should now be Amphibian focused.

[@cheryl9809]

This carrier is ganna go from carrying aircraft to carrying a planet destroying particle cannon

[@deltacx1059]

Ok particle cannon dreadnaught time.