The Biggest MANDELA EFFECTS In Dragon Ball Z

What are The Biggest MANDELA EFFECTS In Dragon Ball Z? ‪@LSMMIKE‬ and ‪@QaamansLand‬ discuss that in this DBZ video featuring the Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT anime and manga!
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[@bluecheckmiya]

Most of these aren't Mandela effects they're just proofs that most DB fans haven't read the manga

[@brianrosado2333]

what I said my man... you're absolutely right.

[@missingLEGACY]

I was going to say the same thing, kinda clickbaity title.

[@elbichote2988]

Damn I was about to write this same thing 🤣😂

[@AnthonyRusso93]

The Mandela Effect isn't ever a real thing it is always people being wrong. Get with the program

[@elbichote2988]

@AnthonyRusso93 who are you speaking to? That's literally what everyone said on under this comment. And also clearly you don't understand the concept of Mandela effects so let me help you. The Mandela effect isn't so much about change, but rather why do we remember things differently and moreso why do so many people remember the exact same incorrect thing. For me, being a history buff, the Mandela effect that got me was the dazzle camouflage ships of ww2 and the Black Tom explosion, which germany attacked US soil in a deliberate terrorist attack sparking our enterance in ww1. I learned it was the sinking of the luisitana I never heard of that black tom shit

[@r2richburg]

a lot of these are manga canon vs anime canon, not mandela effects. continuity differences between the 2 is a more apt title, but cool vid

[@DanielMWJ]

Yeah. You can't point out where we actually saw it and say "but it's the mandela effect!" When no, we actually saw it. It's not the mandela effect. That's just gaslighting us into thinking this is the mandela effect because you prefer the manga canon.

[@Mvfasalways]

The Mandela Effect is an observed phenomenon in which a large segment of the population misremembers a significant event or shares a memory of an event that did not actually occur.

[@rorkirbabtista9429]

No, it's when you jumped time lines, and only you and/or some other people can put the finger on the difference. The rest is unaffected and "debunks" your experience.

[@Mynamesisjeff6999]

@@rorkirbabtista9429 OH NO THERES A NEW Mandela Effect AND ITS the Mandela Effect Mandela Effect

[@rorkirbabtista9429]

@@Mynamesisjeff6999 oh shiiit

[@ammoposada4427]

Slightly right. Actually your just noticing the iconic stuff because it's known by multiple people. But the Mandela effect changes everything even conversation. Recently have you spoke to someone, then yiu both started telling each other you both said something different??? It's happening on every scale. But we only collectively notice iconic popular things. But inface, even a small conversation with q person can also change.

[@3dmaster205]

@@rorkirbabtista9429 No, it's a trick of the mind; in fact there's a "Mandela Effect" that your own memories show is just a trick of the mind; provided you had the original 8-bit Nintendo. You don't actually have to push the cartridge down in order to play the games, even though the manual says. Some people have gotten convinced they couldn't start the machine properly with it up, but that just never was the case, we just dutifully pushed the cartridge down until it became habit and then we did it automatically. Your own memories that prove you never had to push the cartridge down, is like everyone who had a NES, when the game didn't start, you blew in the cartridge, and when it worked afterward assumed that is what did it, and kept doing it. You first tried resetting the machine, that didn't, work, then turn it off and on, that didn't work, then you did what you thought was reseated the cartridge; bring it up and then down again, and of course that didn't work, and so you blew on it. Only now, as you slide the cartridge back in, do you reseat the cartridge, and it's this reseating that made it work. So your memories of blowing in the cartridge, prove you didn't actually need to push the cartridge down, it's just a pointless sentence in the manual.

[@arrownoir]

Goku could’ve used instant transmission to take 18 to king Kai’s planet. Inability to detect her doesn’t matter because Piccolo was actively fighting 17, so just follow his ki. Or Cell’s right as he absorbed 17.

[@thatoneguy3253]

@@mcgeeyeeeyeeethe writing does that itself, just remember it’s his editors fault for making him change the main villain like 3 times.

[@N.i.E.M.O]

Even if Toriyama remembered Instant Transmission existed at that point he'd just make it so Cell can use it too and follow him to King Kai's planet. "Cell can instantly learn the techniques of those he has the DNA of because 'advanced bio technology' etc etc" Some bs like that

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

Also, when Vegeta and Nappa were heading towards Earth, they could have wished to destroy their ships.

[@swagnostic132]

@@censoredterminalautism4073 they run that by one another but since the dragon was weaker than the 2 of them, it wouldn't have worked anyway. Does it make sense? No lol

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@swagnostic132 They tried to use the dragon balls to kill them. Destroying their ships is not killing them... though it would kill them if they were in space. Still, they are stronger than the dragon, not their ships, the ships have no ki. Hell, could even just teleport the ships away.

[@renmojito6796]

This doesn't feel like a mandela effect. It's just people who read the manga vs people who watch the anime. By this logic gt is a major mandela effect as there has never been a ssj4

[@dariusdafigga]

Exactly

[@redxribbonxarmy]

The information in this video was good. However, it was different from the Mandela Effect for the simple reason we are not remembering incorrectly but only remembering the version of the content that was available to that specific individual at that particular time. So, in general, people can only remember what they know, and those individuals were led down different paths by different content creators who used the same content with company-approved dialog and rearranged images to support the dialog.

[@brianrosado2333]

These are not example of Mandela Effect, this are mostly cases of people not reading the manga, so in their head the event of the anime are what actually happened. The problem is that before the internet had its boom people got stocked with what they saw and got their own conclusions. Now a Mandela would be people misremembering something or taking to event who are totally unrelated and mixing them up, the case of Sinbad and the movie Kazaam starting Shaq or the actual thing that started the Mandela effect, the widespread false memory that Nelson Mandela, South African human rights activist and eventual president, died in prison in the 1980s when he in fact died in 2013.

[@messiahmozgus]

How did they do this entire video without knowing what a Mandela effect was? They got this whole thing so wrong. This is so embarrassing.

[@parkouremaster]

I know canonically Trunks already knew how to transform, but my headcannon will prefer the anime in this case, the raw sadness and rage of Trunks in that moment, really made a lot of sense of what "super saiyan" was supposed to be by the moment, a transformation of pure heart with rage and sadness.

[@gravethestampede3454]

A lot of these are just fans doing what they do best and misinterpreting the source material instead of misremembering details (like the black tip Pikachu-tail or the Berenstein Bears fiascoes). Something more akin to what the Mandela affect would be fans all of a sudden insisting Gohan briefly wore a mohawk for a hairstyle at any point of the story or something whack like that. The Mandela affect isn't really a falsifiable thing, the people bring it up in any serious capacity know full well of the discrepancy between what they remember and what's plainly factual. It's nothing like how Dragon Ball fans passing around misconceptions because they don't know better.

[@itsybitsyusitka2170]

One thing that springs to my mind that a lot of people repeated back in the day when discussing Z-Broly is that Goku only managed to defeat him because he aimed at the scar from when he was stabbed as an infant. Not only does Broly have no such scar anywhere on him, the spot punched ( his abdomen ) isn't even where he was stabbed in the first place; the flashback has the wound - admittedly very ambiguously due to the shadowy framing - situated somewhere closer to his upper torso, most likely on the side of his heart. Here I guess the confusion comes from the fact that in Broly: The Second Coming he now has a scar following his battle with Goku and that retroactively became tangled with the whole false memory. I reckon there was also an inkling of a need for the fans to be able to justify his loss even when almost all past and future movie villains shared a similar end of either being bested by an asspull or Spirit Bomb in some shape or form.

[@thatoneguy3253]

You couldn’t tell this to a brolytard back in the day without being overrun by a whole horde of them, but at the end of the day you’re right.

[@cmccollum51]

I never heard the line about Bardock being a scientist until this year lol

[@donovanbradford8231]

That was a line I first heard in the original Ocean Dub from the 90's just before Vegeta turns into a Oozaru

[@MineShackle]

Regardlesa of whether or not Trunks being a super saiyan at the time that he was in the manga is consistent with the Goten and Trunks stuff, its still feels way more earned and dramatic in the anime special. Super saiyan loses what makes it special with each subsequent person achieving it with less motivation, then you get to Trunks and Goten and its quite literally a joke. So yeah, Trunk the Specials blows Toryiama's interpretation out of the water

[@themattstrat7445]

exactly, to me it doesn't make sense for Gohan to willingly sacrifice himself if he knew Trunks could go super saiyan, considering training was obviously still making Trunks significantly stronger, why would Gohan purposefully get himself killed to leave his weaker super saiyan friend to now possibly get ganged up on when they could have had a legit 2v2 fight soon? Using the death as what finally sends Trunks over the edge makes so much more sense!

[@Tophadoodledoo]

So in the case of Gohan's arm, I wonder if, had they taken the tech from King Cold's ship when it was there, they could have reverse engineered and built those healing pods and maybe had one at Bulma's place in the future timeline.

[@EndoScorpion]

It didn't regen Vegeta's tail... and tails were known for growing back on their own. And it couldn't regen Frieza's limbs, thus why he was a cyborg. So why would it regen an arm?

[@marcelmeza635]

Yes Vegeta did say that in the battle he quoted "your father was an average fighter but he was a brilliant scientist" and then he makes a an energy ball that mimics the moon's light.

[@blaketindle4703]

*Only in the anime!

[@DDBEATZZZ]

​@@blaketindle4703not only anime but from English dub. They used to invent/add a lot of extra dialogues or internal monologues non existent in the japanese version.

[@kda9x]

only in the original English dub AKA the ocean dub

[@marcelmeza635]

They should have kept it as Canon.

[@kda9x]

@@marcelmeza635 it was never canon, it was only in the old dub, then when Funimation redubbed that section, it was removed.

[@PegasusPablo]

Brazil's biggest Mandela effect has to do with DBZ and the Twin Towers

[@maymay5600]

Huh 💀☠️💀

[@Fiercekun]

@@maymay5600 Legend says that here in Brazil on 9/11/2001, just as Goku was about to go Super Saiyan 3 for the first time against Majin Boo, the episode was cut to air the twin towers attack :s

[@maymay5600]

@@Fiercekun bruhhhhh

[@CallyMan90]

"Common misconceptions in Dragon ball" should be the title. ;) An example of a Mandela effect would be a group of people remembering that Krillin never had spots on his head or something.

[@gamingguru2k6]

The stress of SS3 on living Goku kept him from going all out. Battle of Gods may imply that SS3 can be at least mastered enough to be useful. Dead SS3 Goku may have done a better job against Kid Buu. He was trying to kill Buu the whole time.

[@bitterthenu7278]

For me I've always seen people say that they stand around screaming for a whole episode or 2 straight, but that literally never happens. They will only scream for like 30 seconds or at most 3 minutes and then start fighting again. Never a whole episode of them screaming and not fighting

[@SlickJarl.]

Well, cell perfect transformation…

[@bitterthenu7278]

@SlickJarl. Yeah that was 10 minutes lol but it wasn't quite the same. Trunks was trying to stop it and cell wasn't just standing there screaming but it was a lot of crazyness going on and cutting to other characters with dialogue.

[@bashamd96]

That's just a joke cause of how often they do the screaming power up trope

[@SlickJarl.]

@@bitterthenu7278True

[@skygalvan1880]

They saw goku go ssj3 for the first time

[@dereckkessler]

How long was goku in the afterlife before his fight with Pikon? If it wasn't very long than it's safe to say he developed the super kioken in the time chamber training with Gohan. If he did he could have definitely used it to kill cell. I'm just saiyan

[@Jiron127]

​@@SpeezyOTBjust faster than goku, not cell. Goku was actually the stronger of the two. But the difference is far smaller than the gap between the speed gap. The whole pikkon fight is noncanon. So goku never developed anything. Even though he should've. But it's possible cell would also try it???

[@yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend]

Non canon so forget about it

[@brandonlaferney937]

I don't think you guys know what the Mandela affect is. Mandela affect is when a large number of people "remember" something that never happened. You guys mentioned things that did happen. For example, Bardock being a great scientist. It's not canon and something that is only present in the English anime dub, but it is in the English anime dub, and therefore, people are remembering something that did happen.

[@grandsaga]

English dub Future Gohan was on a whole other level from his other depictions. "There is no end to what I've become." He was on the Obi-wan level of ready to die. Peak depiction, no contest.

[@Brutalmetal93]

The vast majority of these aren't mandala effects. If something is written differently in other versions of media, people arent remembering it incorrectly, theyre simply consuming a version of the content different to the original.

[@Dcthetruth85]

Im always gonna take the History of Trunks Future Gohan over any other.

[@oAndreGabs]

The biggest mandela effect occured in Brasil, everyone believed for years that in September 11, the episode of DBZ when Goku transforms to SSJ3 was interrupted to show the news about the news about the attack on WTC, there's even montages about that, but in fact, in the moment that the channel that aired DBZ interrupt the scheduled shows, it was transmitting a puppet show

[@thomaswagner2243]

The kid Buu fight in the anime Goku does actually say "I could have probably finished him when I was at full power but I wanted to give you a shot at him"

[@paliboy93]

Not a lot of this is Mandela effect. This is differences between anime and manga or just misconceptions. This is mostly due to the fact that Dragonball can’t read. Mandela effect would be more like when people say “Krillin was stronger than Goku when they were kids.” This is evidenced by the scene when Krillin and Goku powered up as children under Roshi. However, in reality, this flashback occurs in the Buu saga when Goku is teaching Trunks and Goten the Fusion dance. This is Krillin imagining what it would have been like if he and Goku powered up at the same time. It never actually occurred. Another Mandela effect would be that Goku defeated Vegeta the first time they fought.

[@Juxie27]

Great concept for a video! Intriguing! Keep it up bro 🙌

[@SiriusCygnus]

is that mario and luigi and the superstar saga for the gba in the background?

[@LSMMIKE]

Yes. One of my favorite games of all time.

[@SiriusCygnus]

@@LSMMIKE heh i thought so. i i had to hold my cart up to the screen to compare cause i wasnt for sure lol. its definitely one of my top 5 favs along with metroid fusion, the first 2 golden sun games, and buus fury.

[@yungkidnf]

Second one: Same EXACT as the first

[@jodafro619]

thank you for this vid!! i had a friend who swore up and down that frieza killed goku and i told him he didn't!! you don't get revived damaged and tired for one. and two most importantly, assuming goku did die, he could NOT be revived with shenron being that he already died once

[@ChaoticTabris]

There is a big case of the Mandela Effect regarding the Brazilian DBZ fandom. It was widely believed that an important episode of the Buu Saga had it's transmission on Rede Globo, the most popular brazilian TV channel and the place most brazilian first saw the anime, interrupted in 9-11 by the live coverage of the attacks happening in New York. This believe used to be almost universal on the brazilian fandom and I've even seen american Lost Media channels on KZbin mention the recording as Lost Media. This believe was so common that Rede Globo checked their archives and has since openly stated, with documents proving it, that this never happened and in fact DBZ was not broadcast at all during that day because the live coverage of the tragedy had already started by time it would normally air. Lots of people still believe this happened, even my own brother believed it until I showed him Rede Globo's article disproving it.

[@Zakumaki]

i could be wrong but couldn't the dragon balls on namek bring people back more than once?

[@jromer0]

Yes Dende says that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally

[@LSMMIKE]

The Earth Dragon Balls were used to bring those on Namek back to life, including Grand Elder. Dende then used the Namekian balls to wish everyone to Earth except Goku and Frieza. No one in this video said the Namekian balls can't bring someone back multiple times. Both of these things are plot points in the story.

[@blaketindle4703]

Everyone knows Kakarot’s father was a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!!! 😂

[@Scholarpasta]

Do you guys remember a Sayan named Letus that used to hangout with Vegeta and Nappa? I could swear i have memories of Letus committing genocide and drinking beers alongside the other two. Idk what happenened to him i thought they killed him of in the Cell Saga but going back i can't find any reference to him

[@omnipot7141]

These aren't Mandela effects if we're reviewing different forms of media with differentiating details and developments of characters in regards to the anime and manga.

[@Zaynyak51]

You guys are wrong about the first one with goku on namek it's not that shenron can't bring people back to life more then once it's that you can't repeat a wish bringing back everyone Frieza and his men killed on namek is technically a different wish that the wish to bring goku back to life

[@killakoolaid9049]

Dragon ball super gokus first UI transformation beerus doesn't say "he's done it whis" as I remember

[@plains7000]

Okay I just noticed for some reason I don't know about in the anime specifally the colours of Supreme Kai's and Kibito's Skins get switched from what they were in the Manga. In the anime Supreme Kai's Skin Colour is Purple and Kibito's Skin Colour is Pink and yet in the manga Supreme Kai's skin is Pink and Kibito's Skin Colour is Purple.

[@supermanwithheat]

Here’s another Mandela affect: at around minute 24:03 in the original release of those video, some might say Quaman said “… that’s another timeversation for another video ..” when other timeless might have heard “… that’s another topic for another day..” or “…that’s another conversation for another day…” Which reality are you guys in? What did you hear? lol

[@shanestone9770]

Well I admit that Kid Buu is not Majin Buu’s strongest form unlike the other Dragon Ball Z villains who have fought using their strongest form last (which I think lends to this). But I will say Kid Buu is the most dangerous form of Majin Buu because he is pure evil, unpredictable, and has no restraint or inhibitions whatsoever. And Goku himself even stated in the Cell Saga that it takes more than strength to win a battle. This was when he went super saiyan 3rd grade for the first time and he noted the form’s drawbacks, primarily that although the form’s large musculature allowed great strength it was also its primary weakness with the muscles being so large that they’re too heavy to move effectively. Alongside that the stress the form puts on the body leads to stamina issues but that’s besides the point. The point is that a character’s strongest form is not always their most dangerous.

[@protosonic17]

They took the bardock stuff out just like when freiza says all that weird stuff. If you were a dog i'd scratch your belly etc...

[@chadflanaganCFC]

I wouldn't really count these as Mandela effects I'd consider these more anime misconceptions as for me my common effects for dragon ball is the "Over 9,000" quote it being 8,000 actually, the misconception that Freeza gave Goku 7 minutes with it actually being 5,and Freeza's name itself.

[@westonmeyer3110]

Actually, Laughingstockmedia just revealed his own Mandela effect in this video. Goku did NOT fight Cell first to show Gohan how Cell fights, he only did it to show Gohan he was stronger than Goku and had a better shot at defeating Cell than Goku did(even without Super Saiyan 2) Goku explicitly states that “Gohan is far beyond needing my help” when the other Z fighters ask him if that was Goku’s plan all along.

[@NoLimitSquad]

All comments: It's not really Mendela effects Yeah we know, guys. It's just ppl who've read the manga and watched the anime vs ppl who've only watched the anime

[@Jotari]

These are less Mandela effects and more anime and manga differences.

[@onthespoke2]

is this the guy from Bob's Burgers?

[@joezar33]

😂

[@chrisdanks6447]

Who here remembers Dolly,the beautiful woman in the James Bond film,Moonraker having bracers..The part just after the cable car crashes afterJaws bites the cable. Dolly helps move the cable wheel off him and he smiles at her,she smiles back and her braces glint in the sunlight. I also remember her having another two great things about her too. Anyone else remember ?

[@shinobistrikerfanatic7837]

My Mandela effect for DBZ…. Ten Shinhan killed Cell

[@dhsglkdshgohgdsh]

Kind if just feels like differences between anime and manga instead of Mandella effect

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Amazing video as always Mike! Your collabs are always out lf this world 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@mugensama2864]

Never read z maga but I thought Goku held back VS cell and told Gohan he was going all out to build confidence. That's why Gohan said the same thing to trunks

[@animefan77]

Buutenks becoming Buccolo. Goku: now he’s just fodder. Buccolo: maybe I can wish on the Namekian Dragon Balls for a little bit extra and become an Orange Buu…thing. Or I could absorb that naive Gohan.

[@MajinAsuraPath]

Some of these aren't Mandela effects. People aren't remembering certain details wrong. These things did happen in the anime version. Regardless of canon or not, these scenes exist.

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

Mike and Qaaman, nice video, but you guys seem to not understand what Mandela effect is. Mandela Effect is when a large sum of people have *FALSE* memories about an event that they think happened but actually didn't, and it's impossible to find evidence that it happened. What you described in this video are *misconceptions* , wrong info people get because of filler episodes or differences in versions and regional adaptations, I agree they are not canon, but they did happen in different adaptations of the series. Therefore it's not Mandela effect, it is a misconception. Misconception and Mandela effect are two very different things.

[@Mvfasalways]

You guys should really look up with Mandela affect means

[@Stormin.93]

The Mandela Effect is something that people remember that either 'never' happened or is remembered 'incorrectly'. Take History of Trunks, there is nothing that didn't happen or is remembered incorrectly there, it's just different in the manga chapter. Being different doesnt make it the Mandela Effect. It's like saying The Shining is a Mandela effect because it's different from the book

[@alexdittman1135]

The only reason I go back to GT is to shit on the bon para brothers episode

[@cajozack]

Video: Mandela effect Video content:. Anime/manga differences

[@evanmacgiollarua1271]

Not Mandela Effect, just a bunch of translation errors. And all of these have been discussed plenty across both your channels and Geekdom. Kind of a let down, was hoping to see something crazy or wacky. Instead it was just rehashing old topics

[@mr.pastaman]

Are these Mandela effects or just misconceptions based on witch version of the series you take as truth?

[@edfrees]

King Coal

[@ivanthehighman177]

Science dad is best dad.

[@maniacslap1623]

Yeah it’s more Anime vs Manga more than Mandela effect. We not misremembering anything. It’s two different versions in two different mediums. We can choose to adhere to whichever or both but I don’t think is the Mandela effect they referring to lol

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

To be fair, the Saiyans were morons who lnew how to fight and thats about it. If i ran into Mike Tyson, he'd think i am a scientist too, so being a race of moronic tough guys, Bardock creating the moon blast thingy does kinda make him the scientist of his race lol

[@bobbyjay4491]

These aren't Mandela effects. They're just differences between anime and manga. With the anime being far more popular, it's hardly surprising more people are familiar with the animes versions

[@SidewalkThaVillain]

None of these instances are examples of the Mandela effecf. There's are simply discrepancies between the Manga and anime that gave fans a different perspective. Very disingenuous title.

[@7_wd40]

I was just about to say that

[@scottudell7202]

That stuff about Goku fighting Cell was something I debated with someone on Facebook a couple weeks ago. To me, it was always quite apparent that Goku wasn't holding back. He was burnt out after the Instant Kamehameha and was visibly struggling once Cell came back from it.

[@plains7000]

I often prefer the manga over the anime adaptations because it's shorter and the filler isn't there.

[@Wagonball_Z]

perception is reality so if i believe something or remember something specific that makes it real.

[@HK-42069]

I like how it says Mandela effects in the title but it's just you guys dunking on scrubs for not knowing all the retcons 🤣🤣🤣

[@joshuathomas2990]

Hey there a dragon ball multiverse magun

[@joshuathomas2990]

Of future Goku kill feerzy and k.k.

[@SHNAKZ69]

Booicolo... i like Picoboo...lol

[@TheFEARSlayer01]

One other thing about GT that I recall has caused misconception, the original Japanese version was 5 years after the end of Z but didn't the Funimation English Dub change it to be 10 years? I could be wrong but I swear I remember hearing about that. Perhaps that's another general mandela effect.

[@Jiron127]

Gt is 5 yrs after dbz. The end of z is 10yrs after the buu arc

[@TheFEARSlayer01]

@@Jiron127 ya I know that it's 5 years after the end of Z. Point was mainly that I swore I had heard some people claim that it was 10 years after the end of Z tho and that apparently the dub said so, was just wondering if that ever was true or just something people made up (wouldn't be shocked if it was made up).

[@galacticgalaxyonezerone7235]

I wonder if prince vegeta was actually the strongest sayian for a short time when broly was a new born a long with goku. Depends if vegeta was stronger than his father at that time. Idk what else to go by than some anime explanations of brolys birth level was at 10000. Thought that was the same as king vegeta so if his son was already stronger at that time then prince vegeta did take the prize. 🏆 because vegeta was older than goku and broly. Not important really but one of those bored thinking moments. Idk if I’m even right or what to be honest because not sure how or if the manga explains any of that because it’s not really important.

[@grecojones]

Unique video idea for sure!!!!

[@Misiulo]

Interesting analisys!

[@maniacslap1623]

Clearly misunderstood the Mandela Effect lol Y’all just pointing out differences between the different versions of the anime and the manga. If all I see is the anime, and I remember it correctly. Am I then misremembering it when I read the manga where it’s wrote differently? No. As y’all know, everybody got they own version of what’s canon. Toriyama says it’s all canon so whether u guys like it or not, some people gonna go with anime over the manga and saying one is wrong is wrong lol

[@TecTitan]

I'm going to teach my kids that Bardock was in fact a brilliant scientist.

[@devinbannish1469]

...I'm not.

[@Max-zv8hm]

I became a biochemist (so a scientist) because of Bardock. It’s my reality now lol

[@Kenpachi-q3q]

Like telling your kids Santa's real?

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

But did he see the future?

[@Londonlink]

I thought that was an mistranslation on the English dubbers end.

[@Chronoflation]

I don't think the majority of these are Mandela effects at all. Most just seem like anime produced misunderstandings. Aren't Mandela Effects when masses of people remember something that didn't actually happen, like "We Are The Champions" having the line "of the world" in it? I mean, I think some one off version may have had that line, but it wasn't in the original or most iterations thereafter. I can still remember how that one sounded but I know he didn't actually sing it. It'd be like if everyone remembered Vegeta saying "Over 9000", but that line was never actually said, or if it came from Bulma reading her radar when Goku first started powering up with the Kaio Ken and somehow people attributed that memory to Vegeta en masse. That's just an example. So yeah, I think mass misunderstandings and mass false memories are different things and Mandela is the latter

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

Unrelated to the video, but "of the world" was in the original song. It came off an album called "News of the World" and each chorus ended with "of the world." It was only later iterations that began to remove the final "of the world" for no easily-explained reason, but it's still in the choruses before the song's end. The Mandela Effect is typically when people misremember something as a group, due either to media saturation or brand knockoffs (like store brands ripping off the Fruit of the Loom logo and adding a cornucopia, thereby creating the association in our minds), most notably with the repeated insistence that Nelson Mandela was going to die in prison or repeated reports that he had died, later recanted for being false.

[@CaptainPrincess]

I mean the easiest way to describe the mandela effect is the event of its namesake, which is people thinking Nelson Mandela died in prison during apartheid when he infact lived well into I think the early 2010's I remember hearing on the news about his actual death while in an airport and thinking "wait, he just died? and not years ago?"

[@terihorton217]

Thank you!!!! That's exactly what I was thinking. None of these are mandala effects, they are just discrepancies between opinions.

[@omnipot7141]

the gogeta quote used in parallel and addressed to Janemba has two different lines from the Japanese subtitle translation and the English subtitle translation versions.

[@messiahmozgus]

Yeah they should have consulted a dictionary before making this

[@djgoku7774]

"Fans make up things and use their headcanon as fact". Oh my God YES! I swear as a DB, One Piece, Naruto, Yugioh and Bleach fan this is the most annoying thing ever. People act like the author can't make their characters say blind statements and be wrong. "Goku said it so it must be true" type of stuff. Or the worst part when they interpret something differently and take their agenda for their favorite characters to the extreme. Dub changes and the anime don't help either 😅. These days when I read a new series I watch the anime later to spot the differences so these misconceptions don't happen.

[@CaptainPrincess]

Does it really count as a mandela effect if it actually happened though these are manga-anime differences, not a mis-remembering mandela effect is about things people think happened that didnt, not differences in adaptations

[@yungkidnf]

First one: that's not a Mandela effect. And I've NEVER heard anyone *ever* reference that.

[@RasDaKaiReacts]

3:00 I had no idea people believed that Goku was wished back. I've never heard that but I've corrected people in other areas so it's believable that they believed it

[@cedricmartin9109]

I had a few people think this and still believed it after I said you could only wish him back once

[@RasDaKaiReacts]

@@cedricmartin9109 lol yeah, Definitely some confusing moments in dragon ball Fandom. When I was a kid watching dbz ocean dub and the rock the dragon intro, me and my crew thought mehameha was a special move lol. Like a weaker version of Kamehameha lol

[@CopiousStarch]

Same here, but I'll accept it since going back to throwing hands the moment you get resurrected is metal as fuck

[@RasDaKaiReacts]

@@CopiousStarch lol true

[@7_wd40]

These aren't Mandela effects...these are purist gaslights most the fandom to forget stuff that DID actually happen but are anime only

[@justinarzola4584]

I haven't seen the video yet but I'm guessing a lot of these Mandela's are due to dub changes in the anime and manga,fan assumptions or the anime changing certain things from the manga.

[@Mvfasalways]

This isn’t a Mandela effect

[@CalebScott1991]

Yep, none of these are mandala effects

[@chriswp50]

@@ParadiseDB7 it's not gatekeeping, these examples straight up aren't mandela effects

[@chriswp50]

@@ParadiseDB7 k

[@Mvfasalways]

@@ParadiseDB7 lmao you are weird. This isn’t want Mandela effect means

[@StarkMark2]

None of these were Mandela effects though....just manga and anime differences, or translation issues. Mandela effect would be something more like if we all remembered Dr. Gero being in Dragon Ball, when in reality he wasn't. Like how everyone remembers a movie that doesn't exist..

[@GodWorksOut]

None of these are Mandela effects, they are just misconceptions and differences in the anime. Great content nonetheless!

[@Crow_Rising]

Something that could potentially be an actual mandela effect in DBZ (the anime) if other people remember the same thing, is I remember there being a scene during the Buu Saga in which Goku explains exactly how Potara power scaling works when considering his options after Gohan gets absorbed by Buu. His explanation was that if the difference in power between two individuals is too great, the resulting fusion could turn out weaker than just the stronger of the two alone, but when the two are close to the same power level their powers get multiplied together into an ultimate warrior. I've searched for this scene as hard as I could and not been able to find it anywhere. It seems as though it doesn't exist. Instead, there's simply a scene in which Goku briefly considers fusing with Hercule but isn't a fan of the idea, only for Vegeta to get revived and Goku senses his energy, choosing him as the better option.

[@arrownoir]

I for one don’t remember a scene like that so you could be in the minority.

[@maniacslap1623]

Don’t remember this lol

[@keepwaitin]

I feel like I remember that but I also have a weird Mandela effect if it’s just me but I once was reading the descriptions to episodes in season 7 and I remember it mentioning something about Super Saiyan 3 which didn’t exist yet and I remember it being like “king Kai trains goku into super Saiyan 3” but it could just me having bad memory since I only watched the buu saga once and never season 7

[@Cerebrum123]

I remember that scene too!

[@silkoth69]

I think you may be conflating what Old Kai says about the types of fusion and the multipliers received from there being rivalry between the fusers and what Goku says about the fusion dance and how the two fusing need to be similar in stength or else it won't work.

[@arrownoir]

Those aren’t Mandela effects. These are: Gohan punching Cell in the gut, making him vomit out 18 Luke, I am your father HBK kicking Marty Jannety through the glass The monopoly guy having a monocle.

[@zerocks88]

idk if its mandella effect when the anime did say it, its not the source sure but its not people misremembering something

[@manny9166]

The one I remember is from the Saiyan saga, right after goku had used the kiao ken and it did nothing to Vegeta... I swear I can remember a line being said that Vegeta had trained in a technique simular to that....maybe it was just one of the many different dubs but I remember that vividly from when i was a kid

[@Lordkeese_]

Ocean dub

[@manny9166]

@lordkeese3484 is that was it's from? I thought I was going crazy. Thanks

[@BjornHeiden]

Vegeta claims he’s encountered a technique similar to Kaioken before in the original English Z dub

[@Lordkeese_]

@@manny9166 yessir

[@DarthNoshitam]

A real Mandela effect in DB would be that Goku always defeats Vegeta

[@OathkeeperSoraXIII]

Post-grad psych student here. These aren't Mandela effects. The Mandela effect is when a large number of the population misremember an event as being true/different than what actually occured. The crux of the Mandela effect is that human memory is not reliable and over time memories can be distorted, fade, or just become less accurate. However, in these instances, if people are recalling what happened in the anime and you are comparing that to the source material and saying that people are misremembering based off of anime vs manga, then you are comparing different variables. That is not the mandela effect. Again, the mandela effect needs to affect a large population who all recall facts differently than what actually happened. This video is just misleading tbh and once again people try to use psychology terminology/phenomenon's they don't understand or have done a brief wikipedia search on it.

[@SunlightAldo]

i was rewatching that fight between goku and Vegeta recently and i lost it when they said that bardock wasnt much of a fighter but is a brilliant scientist. all i could imagine was bardock in a lab coat and glasses. i think earlier too they say that saiyans were business men (referring to how they sold planets) nice normal planet vegeta. business men, scientists and farmers. thats a wholesome image to paint.

[@tazmanianjay2374]

Not one Mandela affect in this whole video

[@dellosayshello5405]

I guess one would be that gonna be brought up is are they in ssj and ssj2 or even ssj2 itself that’s right Toriyama is not the only who forgot about ssj2 I did too

[@nessdbest8708]

11:55 you got that backwards.

[@ReSunDestin]

I don't think you guys really know what mandela effect means, but it was interesting anyway, so sure

[@GoldenKid24K]

I feel like goku was holding back because he had super sayian 3 for a while I believe he didnt want everyone depending on him and he wanted gohan to step up. He didn't even use super sayian 3 against vegeta and vegeta called him out on it.

[@yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend]

Well he wasnt holding back, enough with head cannon already

[@bigmanwonderland2296]

Yeah this isn't Mandela