Useful alternate definition for ergonomics: putting everything within easy reach.
@sharknatho2406 Жыл бұрын
i've been averse to playing guitar for EIGHT YEARS because of wrist pain. even had an instructor who never said anything about the way my wrist was. in seven minutes watching your video, i think i've figured out why (a combination of praying mantis and too much pressure from my thumb). THANK YOU
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! Glad to help.
@angeldiaz762 Жыл бұрын
My father was primarily a violin and viola player... he had a guitar, stopped playing it because he said it hurt his fingers more. But when I played, eventually, I realized that a lot of the pain throughout the chording hand can come from sideways thumb posturing. If your thumb is sideways, you're gonna hurt yourself more than necessary. What I like to do sometimes when fretting the low strings is to imagine like I'm making an ok sign with my thumb and index.
@explorer867 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your coaching. The tips really help. 🤠
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@outermarker58018 ай бұрын
1:08 Thanks for pointing this out! Because a LOT of videos are forcing people to keep this very natural 'classical' hand position even with the neck lowered. This forces your wrist from a natural state to a locked underhand position. No wonder EVERY great Rock, Pop, RnB, Blues, Jazz etc guitarist ever abandons that nonsense advice and does whatever best suits their own hands and style.
@LaurenBateman8 ай бұрын
Thanks for recognizing that. It’s an important point.
@captainhennahead23234 ай бұрын
You gave me my very first guitar lessons a year ago, Im still going!!! Its so great to have your channel to run back too! Thank you!!!
@LaurenBateman4 ай бұрын
Great to hear! Keep on playing and always have fun!
@jeramiedutcher6720 Жыл бұрын
Great topic. My Telecaster has a line down the back of its neck for my thumb. I don't always use it. When I was starting learning guitar, I was told I could push it too fast and injure myself. So when I felt tightness in my fret hand, I put it on the stand. My hand strength improvement lined up with learning chords. It was 2 minutes on, 10 minutes doing dishes, vacuuming, etc. Back and forth with my spare time. Applying my thumb center neck was a really big help while growing chord hand strength.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this!
@joelsalazar8096 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea I was dipping my neck! Just elevating and my hand position is perfect and no more strain !! Thank you so much for the fix!! Ur awesome !!
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@deanvaughan8536 Жыл бұрын
Damn you have helped me solve my wrist problems, you really are probably the best guitar teacher thank you so much
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Dean glad to help!
@bucktv254 Жыл бұрын
This is what I'm doing this month, June '23 after years of struggle...from the sitting position with my guitar on the right leg & parallel to the floor to the guitar on my left leg at an angle with a footrest and a strap! Thank you.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@anordinaryguy4677 Жыл бұрын
thanku , i needed this..barre chord is killing me..
@basingstoke63 Жыл бұрын
Hi Lauren , a fantastic tip , and just at the right time . I have just picked up the guitar again after my wrist accident . It's as if you knew . Thankyou so much , but plenty to catch up on . lol
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Tony, glad to help you out.
@IzzySmith-sw5md6 ай бұрын
I just started learning and my left wrist has been hurting, thank you so much for this! It’s helped a lot. Subscribed
@LaurenBateman6 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@michaelpond6386 Жыл бұрын
An old friend of mine who is a longtime professional guitarist started using a device called a dynabee an old school gyroscopic wrist strengthening device.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Ooo never heard of that
@t9620 Жыл бұрын
That classical position seemed so natural when I first picked up a guitar. 🙏🎸
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Good!
@darrenoak7187 Жыл бұрын
Excellent spot on Laren, I had all these problems, but eventually fixed with the neck tilt etc, and wrist bands seem to make things a bit easier on heavy guitars. I am still a bit finger heavy on the frets thow.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@joezagame55986 ай бұрын
Very helpful video: brief, well organized, with good examples. Thank you, Lauren! 🙏
@LaurenBateman6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@danball4410Ай бұрын
Hi, this is a great tip to keep the wrist straight and natural, but your video is missing how to actually implement this when playing barre chords or various positions on the fretboard such as the C major scale staring on the 8th fret. Does the wrist have to bend severely for these, or is there a way to play them and keep the wrist neutral? Thanks.
@LaurenBatemanАй бұрын
Great question. Will have to make a new video!
@rharan110 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@markburrows35652 ай бұрын
Thanks Lauren. Could you please elaborate on your thought process on going with a lower neck angle - 25-30ish? degrees - vs the conventional 45 degree classical method. I do a lot of fingerpicking but also low-hi energy strumming. After previous injuries from being oblivious to the concept of technique, I settled in on the 45 degree angle. That neutralized previous issues but now developing wrist + thumb pad issues. In addition to minimizing thumb pressure I'm now experimenting with various neck angles + height. Your insight on this would be greatly appreciated. Thx again.
@LaurenBateman2 ай бұрын
Comfort and I don't like playing my acoustic in classical position. Just personal preference.
@Frank_Kimono Жыл бұрын
I would like to weigh in here and share my own experience with wrist pain. I'm big man 195cm height 100kg. On the beginning of my guitar journey, whilst clueless I went to guitar shop and bought electric Ibanez, modern c neck profile. I couldn't play it very well and I wouldn't last several minutes without wrist agony and cussing and hating. Because I have big hands, this modern C slim neck has proven very uncomfortable for my wrist and thumb - absolute disaster. When I finally arrived at that conclusion, got rid of it, and bought chunkier neck Epiphone Willshire and Fender Jaguar Vintera 60's, all problems have disappeared. Yes of course my fretting techniques improved as I got better but wrist agony dragged my technique down. I love playing my both new guitars. Big hands guitarists - take the neck profile for consideration. Regards Frank
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Frank!
@tcb5141 Жыл бұрын
My problem is my fingers, I watch you Lauren with different chords, I'm like how does she do that. With her small hands
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
You can do it too!
@scotttravis7245 Жыл бұрын
I love it when I watch a video like this and find out I was doing it right and didn't know it. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while! Thank you for being auch a great teacher!👍
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gins8781 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to know your thoughts about tendinitis. I bought a new guitar in November and within a couple of weeks I developed tendinitis. It took 10 weeks to heal during which I couldn’t play at all. I gradually began playing again and recently switched to extra light strings. It helps my elbow, but they are too light for my short scale guitar. Lots of buzzing against my fingers.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Yeah tendonitis can occur with repetitive motions. The best thing to do is to make sure you warm up the hands and arms. You can do. Forearm stretches. Also helps to massage the muscles to loosen them up. And the biggest thing is to have good posture. Make sure you're using a guitar strap. And relax as much as possible.
@Goodiej17 Жыл бұрын
Hi Lauren. I have had a guitar for over a year. I really liked you teaching style, so I bought your course in March. But my question is about guitar placement and the strap. My guitar doesn't have the strap peg in the front and so I have to put it around the headstock right above the nut. How would you make adjustments to the strap. I feel like I'm really struggling on finding the right positioning. Thank you.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Hi Jester, Yeah I used to have a guitar that was like that myself. Personally I hated it. It was very difficult to get the guitar in a comfortable position. I also felt like it dug into my shoulder a lot. You could have one installed at a guitar shop. That's usually what I recommend for students. They do sell straps that you can tie a lace through the headstock. But again, like I said, I found that placement very uncomfortable for myself personally.
@dianasantiago4101 Жыл бұрын
🌄 Morning Lauren Bateman Thank for the advice Loveli lesson 👍 LIKE
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
You are welcome Diana!
@EeliusAstaroth7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this ❤ tried looking for tips a little bit ago, and didn't really find anything relevant or quite specific to my needs. Anytime I'm playing certain chords, particularly bar chords, I inevitably end up with pain, and if I push through it it literally gets to the point of weakening my muscles to the point it's like it just gives out and can't play anymore 😞 figured there was something I was doing wrong so this helped a lot. Definitely gonna try out these tips soon!
@LaurenBateman7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jasonbaum9376 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Trying this today. Thanks
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@RandyThieman7 ай бұрын
You are an awesome teacher! I so wish I could afford your lessons
@LaurenBateman7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@randythieman65837 ай бұрын
I am just about 70 yrs old. Began more earnestly trying to learn guitar since I retired 1 1/2 yrs ago. But I need much guidance! Do you have special prices on your lessons?
@jeremyschram8169 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy learning some about guitar with these videos but I'm an avid ukulele player...just wondering...lauren..you ever play the ukulele? It is so fun to play and usually ergonomically friendly. But watching these videos may want me to try out out guitar. Thanks.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
I have played a ukulele maybe three or four times in my life. I'm not familiar with the chords but obviously can play some of the shapes because of my guitar playing.
@krustykat4153 Жыл бұрын
I have developed tendonitis in my strumming hand. Not sure as to why or what I may be doing wrong with that hand. I was hoping maybe you would cover that and have any suggestions for the strumming hand. the pain is between the thumb and index running down the wrist. thanks
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
I have done that before. It was caused more by actions outside of my guitar playing like my computer work. Massage can help but rest is always best.
@AussieWoodyGirl10 ай бұрын
Try a thumb pick. Works for the arthritis in my stumming hand
@gav1nwood Жыл бұрын
Any tips to avoid elbow and forearm pain? I’ll try these tips but my pain is definitely higher up the arm. A bit like tennis elbow but spreads Dow the forearm.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, that's probably more related to desk work and texting. I did get carpal tunnel ones playing the guitar but it was exacerbated by my office work.
@R.L.Humpert Жыл бұрын
Lauren Hi me again. I have two Martins and neither has a button for the strap on top of the guitar part it has the butt end one only. I really don’t want to drill one in so where exactly do I put the other end? It’s weird. Thanks Ryan😊
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Ryan I would have a Luthier install one. The only other option would be to tie a string and lace it through the top of the guitar above the nut. I find that much less comfortable, but I did it for years.
@carromoo6962 Жыл бұрын
Hey lauren how can i play a song longer without having a sore finger, when i practice after 2 minute i can no longer play
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
This is a good video to help with that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaa3omSErpyUppI
@brianfoster6605 Жыл бұрын
Awesome topic. I am curious. What is the width of your neck? I mean your guitar neck😅 Thinking my fender is too narrow for my fretting hand. Does it make a difference?
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of this answer off the top of my head. But the guitar using in this video is my Crafter Twin Birds 32nd second anniversary edition.
@brianfoster6605 Жыл бұрын
1 3/4 inches at the nut. Same as my Fender. Blows my theory of a wider neck is easier to fret.
@Bprosha Жыл бұрын
Wow,that was great
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@AndrewSkinburn10 ай бұрын
I have pain In my fretboard thumb....am I pushing it too hard or what? My other fingers are on the right places and it feels ok. The problem is my thumb....like it doesn't have strenght and gets tired...
@LaurenBateman10 ай бұрын
Oh no! Yes, you are probably pushing too much on the back. Try playing without the thumb on the back of the neck. That might seem awkward but you are going to learn how little you need your thumb to play chords.
@AndrewSkinburn10 ай бұрын
@@LaurenBateman Will do that. Thank you Lauren and greetings from Finland.
@3GingerCats Жыл бұрын
Well, the natural hand position is why you have your hands at Ten to two on the steering wheel of a car, Holding a guitar is more like twenty five to five... the maximum my wrists / forearm can rotate, this is why I get wrist pain, Because the Radius and the Ulnar are crossing over each other and cannot go any further! The most natural (neutral position) would have the guitar standing next to me like a double base
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@alaamaoula2404 Жыл бұрын
what about the pain in the wrist of my right hand? -.-
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
This is your strumming hand? You can do the same stretches. Work on relaxing your grip on the pick too
@ephesians5112 Жыл бұрын
It's my right wrist that gets a terrible kink in it -- the strumming, picking hand, unfortunately.
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Go slow and work on relaxing that out.
@KelBo18 Жыл бұрын
Both elbows too 🙄
@djkanyon Жыл бұрын
I came here to see if someone will comment something Phoebe Buffay related
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Not sure who that is
@James-ju4gj5 ай бұрын
Been playing for 15 years and have started to develop strong pains in the top of my fretting hand, wrist and forearm, even when not playing. Have gone through all the tips and tricks regarding posture and technique. I take breaks but the issue comes back stronger after a couple of days of playing. I'm worried that this is something that might not get better
@LaurenBateman5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Please have your hand checked by a doctor
@dianasantiago4101 Жыл бұрын
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@tcb5141 Жыл бұрын
Wonder how Keef Richards survived all these years
@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
Lots of heroine 🤣🤣
@tcb5141 Жыл бұрын
@@LaurenBateman 🤣
@puceolive2779 Жыл бұрын
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@LaurenBateman Жыл бұрын
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@elreybuenvinobuenavida383710 ай бұрын
What helped ME? I started squeezing a tennis-ball daily as an excersise. You're welcome 🙃🙂