LaVar Arrington-Lamar Jackson is in the Danger Zone of the Baltimore Ravens Agenda

[@MRoss623]

Lavar said “self inflicting wound” to plaxico lol

[@calvin032370]

this group made a lot of since!!! thank you

[@_profectus]

Lamar is going to lose 30% trying to save 3% that would go to the agent. Neat

[@upgr8king]

Play stupid games with stupid prizes

[@MikeHunt-hm6bo]

They could’ve been negotiated a new contract for Lamar after his MVP season for a lot less than now like Josh Johnson

[@dpayne3646]

Aren't these the same guys that said they love what Lamar is doing and he should stand on it

[@e9313]

😮

[@hardbodyradioreviews2910]

Not all but most of these pundits especially the former athletes are pretty stupid on this

[@JM-qn3tf]

Just because they don’t want to give him a ridiculous, guaranteed contract doesn’t mean they’re blackballing him… The pandering is sickening

[@KClouisville]

But he was MVP 4 years ago!! 😄Forget the fact his numbers have gone down and he now has a pattern of being injured a shitload of the time....and he's won 1 playoff game. It's gotta be they're blackballing him and assassinating his character!

[@segagenesis7708]

They literally sent out the exact same memo in August, about Roquan Smith. This is not a big deal, the way the league is trying to make it.

[@questtech7148]

Is the league or media making it a big deal?

[@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801]

Roquan Smith didn't make big headline like Lamar is. SMH

[@snowhawk04]

@@questtech7148 the media is making a big deal out of it. All the NFL did was remind the clubs of the rules. If the league were making a big deal of it, we'd be hearing about investigations of teams and players breaking the rules.

[@snowhawk04]

@@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801 The NFL released the same memo about Roquan and Saint Omni. You just didn't see it.

[@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801]

@@snowhawk04 i was talking about the media as well

[@jamesfetcho6315]

How come nobody complained about Matt Ryan not getting fully guaranteed contract....did He not win a MVP??? Why because having a MVP year doesn't mean You are great every year. Example Lamar Jackson MVP season 36 tds, 6 ints, and 9 fumbles....after MVP season all added together....59 tds, 29 ints, and 21 fumbles. Not close to the MVP season.

[@reach5589]

People act like it's 2019 Lamar not every other season Lamar lol.

[@Fayn757]

Thank you

[@trombonejosh1]

Who else is tired of hearing about this?

[@madboyreadynow28]

I have been saying the same thing. Lamar did this to himself. You don't send your homeboy or your mother to negotiate with billionaires. You get an agent. QBs are the face of the organization, and he wants to keep it real and not cut his hair, stay with that South Florida bad accent and not work on his diction and vocabulary, and no agent. I am a Black man, and I would tell Lamar if I was the owner. You are the fact of my organization. At the end of the day, this is business. Get a decent haircut. I have this person who is going to help you get rid of that horrible South Florida accent. You are going to carry yourself as a leader and the fact of this organization. If Lamar was on defense and after the game, no one was putting a microphone in his face, I wouldn't care. These are the realities that the white owners will not say publicly, and the white radio host and TV host can't talk about it. It's shows like this with black ex NFL players who can be honest about Lamars situation. As the QB, you have to look and play the role of the face of a multi-billion dollar organization. Talking ignorant and wearing your hair like you're in prison ain't going to get billionaire owners to take you seriously. That's just the truth. We can call it racist but again, I am sure a Black owner would tell him the same thing. Clean it up. This is my business, and I am not going to let you F up what I have going on. Bottom line Lamar just K his career by keeping it real dumb.

[@prettytamaralover]

This is not black balling this is common sense

[@JM-qn3tf]

Exactly. They wanna turn it into a conspiracy so bad… They want this to be a race issue so bad. Or collusion. No it’s just common sense. Look at the Deshaun Watson contract. He’s been terrible and it was way too much money. Look at the Russell Wilson, contract terrible and the Denver broncos are terrible. Lamar Jackson is missed 10 games in December. We cannot rely on him. He’s one of the worst quarterbacks in the league to give a fully guaranteed contract, just based on the style of play and his injury history. He thought he was being clever by sitting out last year, but all it did was make him look even more fragile.

[@hardbodyradioreviews2910]

He IS the problem!!!! Wtf LA!?! When this much money is involved teams are not going to talk to you without an agent! And how the fk is he blackballed!?! People love that word!

[@KClouisville]

This, if you're negotiating something and you ask for something no prospective bidder is willing to pay....you're not being "blackballed".....you're asking for something they won't agree to. It doesn't matter if a year or two before someone got lucky with a desperate bidder and overpaid them. This isn't hard to understand. I think a lot of this is former players not happy about how the whole contract process works....the CBA, the franchise tag, etc.....but that's a whole different thing. The players have a union....use the union for leverage on those things when a new league contract is negotiated. Until then, you're playing by the rules set down.

[@Ape_In_His_Apex]

Why is everyone bringing up Lamar's MVP from 2019? I can't go to my boss and say, you know I was an employee of the month back in 2009; let's talk about a raise, but the company is in the red. Lamar is good but must stop because he's comparing himself to Mahomes. The negotiating power that Mahomes, Brady, and/or Rogers have is because they've won Superbowl(s). When the team traveled for the playoffs and he purposely didn't travel with the team but was fully capable of doing so, that was the last straw. Baltimore is known for Pimpin' not for Simpin'.

[@sarabrown2671]

The owners run this league like it or not, play ball or get out

[@schadlarry]

Tired of the MVP case, that was in 2019. He’s on the same trajectory as Cam, downhill. Greedy F, 1 playoff win should have taken the money.

[@johnrambo3680]

So what he is still a MVP

[@schadlarry]

@@johnrambo3680 and a quitter.

[@bigballer6666]

Lamar can blame nobody but himself…. He won’t trust an NFLPA certified agent, but he will trust a used car salesman who is hawking a piece of crap home gym. He is a disaster

[@emmettmombo9033]

😂😂😂

[@JM-qn3tf]

His mom is a literate in terrible at math… And she’s his agent? What a clown show.

[@blaketindle4703]

For real lol

[@andrewcroken7072]

As an Eagles fan, the Ravens will get rid of Lamar Jackson due to his non exclusive tag and draft an QB like Max Duggan from TCU since Max Duggan can throw the cannon out of the football and can run fast too. He can play against Bengals QB Joe Burrow, Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Steelers QB Kenny Pickett in the 2023 season as the starting QB. Lamar Jackson won't stay on the team so the Ravens will draft Max Duggan in the 1st round of the 2023 NFL Draft. So Max Duggan to be in an Ravens jersey to be sold in stores.

[@christianmarmol1913]

😂😂😂😂

[@chuletajones6833]

I think back to a few weeks ago when DeCosta was talking to the media and indicated how a proper negotiation should go. He said " it takes 2 to tangle" and "both sides needs to give up some things to get other things." When I saw that I started questioning if Lamar was going about this the right way and now hes kind of proved he isnt. If Lamar had proper advisors he would've taken a 4yr deal 2yrs ago and would be about to negotiation another one next yr at 27yrs old.

[@PD-qu8dq]

Did they offer him a 4 year contract 2 years ago?

[@chuletajones6833]

@@PD-qu8dq they started negotiating 2yrs ago. Whether they offered it or not an agent or proper advisor would've went for a shorter contract so he could get 2 max contracts before age 30. Deshaun was signed last yr which means lamar had already been negotiating for a yr by then. An agent would've followed Josh Allen at that point

[@5000G-x2z]

😂 The market has gone up in the last two years. Joe is going to break the bank then Lamar just says give me the contract Joe has with the Bengals .

[@snowhawk04]

What 4 year deal are you talking about. We've ever only heard of one deal being offered and it was a >>>6 year deal

[@snowhawk04]

@@chuletajones6833 Why would an agent who is pushing for 2 short max contracts just bend over for the Allen deal? Allen's deal is a 6 year deal. Lamar would be 32 at the end of that contract.

[@jerrymclamb82]

aah bullcrap! lamar has created all of this confusion.

[@jerrymclamb82]

lamar has baggage!

[@questtech7148]

He should've taken the 3/133 guaranteed deal. He could collect and still be 29 for his 3rd deal.

[@primetimedez5695]

Facts but idiots think it’s a bad deal he could’ve got a new contract after year 2

[@billclay2701]

Some Lamarr Kaepernick type stuff going on

[@GARR255]

They’re black balling him? Lmaoo. Lamar Jackson got grown men delusional.

[@corning1]

I’m surprised his mom hasn’t freaking told him to get a damn agent. Like honey this didn’t work, it’s time to hire and agent. How bizarre.

[@PD-qu8dq]

His mother is a lawyer and his agent, looks like age did good

[@nahslimmoebobjoe3793]

If Lamar plays another down for the Ravens, I’ll be disappointed.

[@Wraith3100]

Outside of KC there is no one else that deserves big money at QB

[@briansmad1]

Just because Cleveland offered someone a stupid amount of money doesn’t mean the player is worth it, it means that team does dumb things which is why they continue being who they are. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s smart business

[@JohnContreras-br3yn]

Bingo

[@JonyRotten]

I read the memo, it was a reminder (warning) for teams to stay within the collectively agreed upon parameters. The NFL did not lie in the memo. Formal negotiations are a time to exhibit intellect and maturity. Jackson's accusatory response followed by a tweet proclaiming "I'm the storm" didn't help his case and looks childish. Couple high demands (deserved or not) with a combative attitude why would anyone want to deal with him? He needs representation

[@area777th]

Instead of sitting around and complaining about it, make a move. Or there’s no one else looking at him?

[@gblair7622]

The Ravens are playing chess while Team Lamar is playing tic tac toe

[@FlagTheRef]

Sometimes money and contracts are more intelligent than immaturity and ignorance.

[@adam7899]

If Lamar would of excepted the contract offered back in September 2022 3yr/133M he could of made 44M + a season bonus, but he decided to play on 5th yr option where he only made 23.1M so he costed his self 21M, if he decides to play on non exclusive tag 32.4M he's going to cost himself another 12M next season, so if Lamar was smart he should get an agent to explain this to him!

[@r.brown0294]

That's allegedly. Just like Devante Adams said green Bay never offered him more money than raiders but skip and Shannon always say that report that green bay offered him more money to stay

[@idread3523]

Not only that, the money in bank could be earning more money right? (High interest etc)

[@snowhawk04]

@adam 78 He wasn't offered 133/3. He was offered 290/6 where 133/3 was the guaranteed portion. That contract wouldn't have started until this season, meaning he would have made the same money he made last year. He didn't decide to play on the 5th year option. The team exercised their right to the 5th year option. If an agent read your comment, they'd tell you to pack it up, you're delusional.

[@snowhawk04]

@@idread3523 What money in the bank? The contract that was offered wouldn't even start until this season and we don't know what the structure was for the first 3 years of that 6 year deal. It could have been more money. It could have been less.

[@idread3523]

@@snowhawk04 -oh ok

[@GuyRBrewer109]

You can't tell me these guys don't work for the NFL. They're not unbiased at all.

[@austinstyles6393]

Lamar has caused all this mess because he doesn’t know what he’s doing and these media clowns are not helping him by defending his dumb decisions.

[@JM-qn3tf]

Every single media person was telling him that he shouldn’t play last year and to sit out and giving him terrible advice, which is coming back to bite him now… Now they’re all giving him more terrible advice, except they want to say finally, he needs an agent… I said that 2 years ago

[@chippope8984]

Amen! All these “feel” people do not understand that there is this force called truth. And it is undefeated. It is exact and not some average. Thus, Lamar is not in Desean Watson’s position, and is there a desperate team like the Browns were who felt they had to upgrade their QB at any cost and made a lottery move and bet the whole house on a QB who has never made it to a conference championship. Stupid move! Lamar also has not proven that he can! If Mahomes were tagged now like Lamar, teams would have made higher offers than even Watson got!

[@snowhawk04]

None of the stuff you are getting stuck on actually matters. From his business partner supposedly calling teams to the alibaba shake weights to Lamar rightfully defending himself from a popular Ravens fansite claiming he turned down a deal never reported. An agent isn't a miracle worker. An agent isn't going to magically get Lamar to come off what he wants and get the team to come up from what they want. Fans who don't know what they are talking about, like yourself, contribute to the messiness. The two sides are dug in and this is what negotiations look like when it gets messy. The Ravens insulted Lamar tagging him with the nonexclusive franchise tag. It's less money than the exclusive tag. They did it because they wanted to humble Lamar as they knew no team was going to sign him to an offer sheet to give him what he's worth. Only once in NFL history has another club submitted an offer sheet to a player on the nonexclusive franchise tag and it was an expansion team with tons of cash and tons of picks. It was highly improbable any team would put in an offer sheet given what's required (have to make space as he would count against the cap for upto 5 days). And it was happening at the start of free agency. But because Lamar is standing his ground on what he's worth, the situation has backfired for the Ravens. They still have no QB and Lamar continues to count against their cap. They have to keep a warchest (Lamars 32M tag + 4M in cap space + 20M in possible restructures) for that 0.0001% chance a team decides to burn 15% of their contracts to pursue Lamar with an offer sheet. So that means they can't pursue the best free agents. They can't pursue Hopkins, Evans, or Jeudy. They can't barely afford to pay for their rookies right now (would use 3.5M of the remaining 4M in space). The only dumb decision was not paying Lamar what he wanted when he was first eligible. Eric DeCosta knew Lamar was going to be expensive then. It's exactly what he told the media. He knew the longer they waited the more deals would happen and the more Lamar's cost would go up. Before last month, all we heard was Lamar was searching for a KIRK COUSINS deal (3 year fully gtd). The one deal we've heard the Ravens offer is a 6 year deal with less than half the money guaranteed. 45% of the total money was guaranteed, which is less than 9 other multiyear contracted veteran QBs (Watson, Cousins, Rodgers, Dak, Tannehill, Wilson, Jones, Jimmy G). The back 2 years of that contract isn't just below the expected QB market price then, it's barely at the QB market price now. It wasn't a good deal once you get over the top line numbers. The team is doing what they can to put public pressure on the guy. They were the ones that went to ESPN last month and told them he was all of a sudden looking for a deal that paid more than Watson. They were the ones telling ESPN that they were willing to trade him. This is how negotiations go down. It's a dirty business.

[@17thN.O]

​@@snowhawk04 At the end of the day Lamar is going to get his bread from somebody.

[@silverback7348]

This. Take is kinda trash from Lavar. Lamar has repeatedly turned down offers betting on himself and got hurt TWICE at the end of the season: the ANTI-Flacco…crazy athlete that gets hurt and hasn’t turned it up during the playoff run. Facts don’t care about feelings. He could have signed when Josh Allen did. Lost that bet. His own doing. He gets offered the second best deal ever. Only the Watson deal, which is horrible for Team Competitiveness, was more. This isn’t the NBA and you can’t cheat the CAP like MLB and it’s garbage Luxury Tax by throwing more money.

[@mindsetroad]

You people are silly. If Lamar had an agent the nfl would not cave to another Watson contract. Agent or no agent.

[@Daausby]

TJ is the only one out of these 3 who makes any sense!

[@donaldsoncole3095]

Lamar cannot blame his mother , Ravens Organization, or the League for his own moves . An agent would have negotiated a shoe deal after the MVP SEASON. An agent would have 100 million in LJ’s bank account. An agent would have him signed to a big contract with guaranteed money . LJ did this to himself and the blame game has to stop . Every move this man makes looks like Colin Kapernack reincarnated. It just gets worse . Deep down LJ knows he is not good enough and every team knows as well , he is done ! Let’s move on. Draft days coming, cut him and rebuild !!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jschillean]

I wouldn’t even play if I was him and I’m a ravens fan🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Dragz0]

Housh!! Spitting FACTS

[@jervelgarmon4845]

This is like my family. Because you dont do it their way. You are the problem. When there is always more than one way to do things

[@yzerman123]

The opening sentence of the memo says that it was the NFLPA that informed the League about Ken Francis. This isn't a conspiracy by the owners. Even the players union is opposed.

[@freeffree4133]

I'm a hugh Raven's fan. Lamar is the problem. All this was his fault. Honestly at this point I'm ready to be done with him and move on.

[@andrewcroken7072]

As an Eagles fan, the Ravens will get rid of Lamar Jackson due to his non exclusive tag and draft an QB like Max Duggan from TCU since Max Duggan can throw the cannon out of the football and can run fast too. He can play against Bengals QB Joe Burrow, Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Steelers QB Kenny Pickett in the 2023 season as the starting QB. Lamar Jackson won't stay on the team so the Ravens will draft Max Duggan in the 1st round of the 2023 NFL Draft. So Max Duggan to be in an Ravens jersey to be sold in stores.

[@jonyjoe8464]

Lamar has his MVP trophy to show the ravens how valuable he is to the organization. Why won't the ravens give Lamar his guarantee contract, he brings the MVP trophy to the table and needs to be compensated accordingly. Lamar will probably sit out the season after the slap in the face the ravens gave him with the measly 32 million contract. How is Lamar going to live on 32 million? he is an elite QB with elite expenses, he needs elite compensation. The ravens are trying to keep Lamar down, he deserves at least deshaun type money, at the minimum.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

He’s regressed every year since his MVP season. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@outkast40]

These guys are NFL players and they will more than likely side with the player. But Lamar is not above the rules and he's handling his business like a man child.

[@mikeh.6117]

Have to leave out the word should. And deserve. The important word is negotiate. To do that effectively when dealing with any business for this amount of money, you need an agent.

[@r.brown0294]

It took deshaun 2 years and he sat out to get fully guaranteed

[@KNByam]

That was a bit different. He hated the franchise and they hated him, he had an injury plus the scandals at the end of his second year. He got it, but still lost money.

[@jontuemitchell4263]

No Deshaun just wanted out of Houston him sitting out 2 years never had anything to do with a contract he already had just signed a new contract

[@r.brown0294]

@@jontuemitchell4263 Lamar wants out of Baltimore. Also Watson 1st extension wasn't fully guaranteed, but signing a new deal was part of trade negotiations.

[@jontuemitchell4263]

@@r.brown0294 yea but the contract wasn’t the reason he left Houston

[@_profectus]

Lamar scored a 13 on the wonderlic, one point below the average score for a janitor. The complete mismanagement of his draft, contract, negotiations, should not be a surprise.

[@jschillean]

Roquan smith didn’t have a deal asked for 100 million he got 100 million 60 definite and 22 mill to sign 🤷🏾 and he just got there come on

[@brendondowdy5651]

Teams are terrified to talk to him because they don't want to upset him or risk losing picks. Lamar is an idiot over this

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

They can’t lose any draft picks. The only penalty the league can levy is a $47,000 fine if the team negotiates with someone other than Lamar or an NFLPA certified agent. That’s it. It’s in Article 48, Section 3 of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement. See below: “Section 3. Penalty Under procedures to be established by agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA, the NFL shall impose a fine of $47,000 upon any Club that negotiates any NFL Player Contract(s) with an agent or representative not certified by the NFLPA in accordance with the NFLPA agent regulation system if, at the time of such negotiations, such Club either (a) knows that such agent or representative has not been so certified or (b) fails to make reasonable inquiry of the NFLPA as to whether such agent or representative has been so certified. Such fine shall not apply, however, if the negotiation in question is the first violation of this Article by the Club during the term of this Agreement. It shall not be a violation of this Article for a Club to negotiate with any person named on (or not deleted from) the most recently published list of agents certified by the NFLPA to represent players. The fine amount set forth in this Section shall increase by 5% each League Year beginning in the 2021 League Year.”

[@252ceddi]

Being cheap and won’t get a agent is his own fault fr

[@johanvedo3482]

Lamar needs to fire his "agent" he's getting bad advice.

[@KINGJROC1979]

Lavar Arrington hit it right on the head !!

[@fearfears570]

The man doesn’t need an agent if he doesn’t want one. This man is handling his business how he see fit. I’m not sure why everyone keeps saying this. He’s not the first player in history not to have an agent. What else y’all got?

[@vainexp3481]

Lamar had no business even stepping foot on the field last yr without a contract...but he is the good guy and he wanted to be a team player...because of him they were on the top of the division with the number 1 seed before he was hurt...so he did not give up on his team....the front office gave up on him...and did not give him a contract which he should have gotten after he won the mvp...all if this is on the ravens organization...and with lamar...the ravens would not even be competitive

[@Wraith3100]

Y’all sad. Why must anyone use an agent. Man is speaking for himself. Oh my bad. I forgot we have to keep a master

[@mwilliam331]

Lamar either directly or indirectly is attempting to set a precedent that the kabal of agents nflpa and the league office is not allowing to go forward it's cool if some 2nd rate random skill player on his last deal negotiates himself but they can't have high profile QBs do this

[@OG-1400]

Lamar sit out and let the team go 2-5 and watch how the fan base sours on the org

[@ctg404]

Facts lol

[@corning1]

It doesn’t matter. Like someone else said and I totally agree. How many seasons do the ravens have? Infinite. How many seasons does Lamar have? Not that many. Even if it’s a little short term pain and some bad press the ravens franchise and fans aren’t going ANYWHERE, and the media works for the damn owners in the end. He might get a few sympathy segments on espn from a few but just listen to TJ and Plaxico talk man. This isn’t good for him man. This is bad bad. He’s probably just seeing red at this point with rage and will dig in even harder. Lamar can’t win this man. He’s losing so much money. Man he deserves to get paid but he overplayed his hand bad especially when the owners have dug in hard over this Watson contract, and the players becoming their own agents and walking into the bosses office trying to make deals. The owners don’t want that crap. The owners and agents grease one another this is the real world. You help me I help you. Like paying for a real attorney over a public defender. Your case doesn’t change but the judge knows the game and so does the da and you get a lighter sentence always. I thought he had the leverage too, man was I naive. The owners aren’t playing and truly showing who has the power.

[@chadbutler8634]

First of all these pilgrims 👈🏾 will not let a black man tell them anything 👈🏾 plus these pilgrims will not bow down to this man demands.

[@Fayn757]

Blah blah blah

[@topcat2740]

Jackson has gotten some bad advice he needs an agent.

[@trumpdrago517]

The thing is, the teams CANT make Lamar a high offer or agents are dead and every team will have to negotiate with untrained players. If Lamar gets the contract why would burrow get one? Hurbert. When Derek Henry is up why him. Soon it will be 2nd string centers in krafts office. They’re nipping this in the bud. It might be fine for Lamar, but when marlon Humphrey is calling Kraft to negotiate…and trust me IT WILL HAPPEN. Imagine if this did go through, no PREMIER player would ever use an agent again

[@JM-qn3tf]

You’re trying to make it seem like it’s a conspiracy because he doesn’t have an agent… You’re completely missing the point. The fact that he doesn’t have an agent is why he doesn’t have a contract. No team is going to want to give him that max contract, whether he has an agent or not. Why are people so slow?

[@trumpdrago517]

@@JM-qn3tf I think it’s two fold. I agree with you, fully guaranteed is out the question but ur theory doesn’t hold water because no team has made AN offer. If you’re correct, why wouldn’t the “colts” offer “$175m? Like 26 teams would at least make an offer. You don’t make sense. Lamar doesn’t hold the cards. The “saints” could offer 3 years $40m if they want. Teams not making an offer isn’t about guaranteed, it’s 100% not having an agent. U think guaranteed is a bad precedent, wait till all 52 players want to negotiate directly with the team

[@chippope8984]

The agents lifeline is not the team! It’s the media! That’s who they have under the table agreements with to leak stories, pump up their clients, and breaking news tips! Has nothing to do with the teams. The teams interest is in staying away from guaranteed contracts and salary cap killer contracts like Watson got.

[@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801]

Lamar coming into DRAFT without a AGENT is the REAL OUTLIER which is why the COLLUDING NFL MACHINE is fighting extremely hard for Lamar not to get fully guarantee deal. If it was truly about fully guarantee deals Cousins and Watson would have not gotten one. A big part of the NFL MACHINE are AGENTS and INSIDERS. They all work together with the owner for the best interest of the NFL and not necessarily the players especially if you're not a QB. In my opinion and base on jersey sales Lamar is the true FACE of the NFL with his electrifying plays and humble respectable personality. A lot young people idolize Lamar because of his "RAPPER" like looking image and accent which is more identifiable with the next generation of upcoming fan. Lamar getting a FULLY guarantee deal WITHOUT A AGENT at the QB position would be PRECIDENT and no doubt the next generation of QB will probably be influence by this and follow his lead to make it a TREND

[@trumpdrago517]

@@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801 I hear you but FACTS and numbers don’t say that. Lamar Jackson isn’t the face of the nfl by any metrics. He isn’t top 10 in jersey sells, tv viewers, KZbin views, instagram nor Twitter followers. I understand your anecdotes but it isn’t even ALMOST true. In fact, by most metrics Justin fields is closer to being the face than Lamar

[@grantcanada1]

I really like your voice Lavar. Good to hear you. And I agree with the Danger Zone take......and Plaxico's and TJ's take too.

[@brendondowdy5651]

Lamar is not better than the Watson that we last saw play football. Teams would be stupid to pay 40m a year guaranteed.

[@OG-1400]

Team wise the starting RB is upset at coach ,the starting Wr is disgruntled,terrible left tackle..new Oc now add to that Tyler Huntley 😂 try pitching that to season ticket holders 🤷🏿‍♂️😂😂

[@anthonyhilton1709]

I'm sorry l don't agree with you. No other quarterback in the history of the league. Has negotiated his own contract. They know Joe Burrow is next up with a deal. Could you imagine if he followed the Lamar Jackson playbook.

[@boondoggle4820]

I think that other teams may make him an offer, but I don’t think that anyone is going to offer him more than the Ravens did because I think that the owners simply do not want a repeat of Watson’s contract. The Ravens made him an offer to make him the highest paid quarterback in the league except for Watson. When this is all said and done Lamar could end up playing on a team for less than what the Ravens offered him.

[@KNByam]

His availability at the end of seasons is part of it. He has an MVP but that didn't lead to team success in the playoffs. Him and Daniel Jones have the same amount of playoff wins.

[@utmosdemos3645]

It's not just the guaranteed contract. They don't want to be negotiating with dude's mothers or anything like that.

[@Daniel-hn7nd]

Maybe Lamar and his Mother should start doing some media and answering questions. What do you guys think?

[@snowhawk04]

Just remember this for next weeks owner meetings. When Roger Goodell gets his extension from the owners, it's going to be a fully guaranteed deal.

[@pbnaj]

Ummmmm Roger Goodell can break his leg and still perform his duties though....

[@loweelljfkyeen]

I STAND WIT DAME DASH …..

[@blakeharris58]

Straight up. Forget an agent. If he were asking for an amount that the Ravens were willing to pay, it wouldn’t matter. Someone needs to make it clear to him that he’s not worth that crazy amount of money. Personally I think $185mil fully guaranteed is the max. Also, they gotta stop bringing up Kirk Cousins. He wasn’t making top of the market money.

[@freeffree4133]

He's not even getting that though. Ravens final offer 133 fully guaranteed. This is stupid though because starting QBs always get their full contact except for maybe the last year.

[@julian2524]

Deshaun is a better quarterback than Lamar 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@godlikekreations6649]

How do the Ravens have an agenda when they've been trying to sign the man for the last two years Lamar is on some BS how does the league know about this guy Kevin before Lamar even announces he's a business partner of his but that's on the Ravens the Ravens don't know what deals Lamar is doing outside of the facility stop the BS every time I see one of these and makes me more and more happy I really don't even look at the these shows

[@Slyme1big]

They telling my man nah we ain’t giving all that bread without one of the NFL handlers to take their cut and these yes men co-signing that’s y the NFLpa and the players always getting screwed 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@zhc2200]

So you're saying Lamar is a martyr to future players? He's putting his career earnings on the line just to stick it the greedy owners and agents? Or.. he's likely just an idiot in way over his head.

[@Fayn757]

Blah blah blah

[@hardbodyradioreviews2910]

Why are teams not trying to acquire him? Easy answer what business man is going to invest money into a injury prone, inconsistent QB who has no agent and and wants a a fully guaranteed contract. LJ is dumb and I bleed black and purple and I’m tired of defending his idiocy and with all that I hope he stays but if they let him go I’ll be just has happy!

[@corning1]

It’s because of the non exclusive franchise tag, the Watson contract, and the owners not wanting every damn player to walk into their office as their own agent. Lamar was just the first casualty. It’s not personal. Feel bad for him he deserves to get paid. Overplayed his hand and got called on the river. Bad beat. That’s life. Time to swallow your pride now or this will be catastrophic for him.

[@nj1987]

The ravens showed their true colors years back when he won the mvp so theirs no surprise about how the ravens treat their players who would want to go to baltimore knowing what their about who cares what the other owners say they don't own the ravens

[@universoullifebalance]

That 13 Wunder lick score really proves true for Lamar 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@chicagodude8888]

Not too surprising. The average score for a running back is 17.

[@levarw]

The “Wonderlic” test is essentially an IQ test with a heightened speed component that limits you to about 14 seconds per question. You may score higher by rapidly guessing instead of carefully focusing on each correct answer. If you are someone who typically analyzes everything carefully before making a decision, you’re not likely to have a high score. Lamar’s score of 13 is just two below the 15 scored by Dan Marino, Donovan McNabb, and Terry Bradshaw. This test has been disqualified from use in assessing players in the NFL because of the built-in bias in the test and the inappropriate interpretations of results dependent upon race. All it essentially does is give a bogus quantitative number for biased individuals to hide behind when they desire to label someone, usually Black, as unintelligent-or, in the reverse, exalting a player whom they already revere. It’s just one more thing that, unfortunately, too many people accept as valid instead of researching themselves.

[@chippope8984]

Yeah, because being able to make quick and accurate decisions is not a real quality of a top NFL QB🤦🏽‍♀️

[@chicagodude8888]

@@levarw Just seems odd that Ben Watson scored a 48. I mean if “institutional racism” causes disparate scores between racial groups, why did he score so well when the test was construed to make him score lower than whitey? It couldn’t possibly be that he’s simply intelligent. Can you explain Marino to me? Obviously these tests were created to make him score well when they’re “culturally biased” in his favor. Maybe some people are better at problem solving than others.

[@levarw]

@@chicagodude8888, those accomplished quarterbacks were listed to point out the invalidity of the test. Despite players of different ethnic backgrounds and positions having ranging scores, it is typical to see people parrot the low scores of Black players when they want to disguise their biased opinion as fact. Knowing Dan Marino’s score now has no effect on anyone recognizing his illustrious HOF career decades later. However, Lamar’s score was highlighted before he even touched an NFL field. It’s still being used, even after joining TB12 as the only players to attain Unanimous MVP, to diminish his intelligence. Having successfully played the position since 8 years old, his experience and instincts should weigh more heavily than anything.

[@DLBanks43]

His net worth is 4 to 6 mill...Stay out and wait

[@5000G-x2z]

Why would Lamar take any deal before Joe, Justin and Jalen. Two years ago Josh Allen got 100 million fully guaranteed. This year they offered Lamar 133 million fully guaranteed without an agent. Agent only convince players to take less most of the time to have a good relationship with the NFL in my opinion.

[@zhc2200]

Lamar and his mother are stupid. Stupid as in not letting professionals handle the business side of pro sports. How long should Lamar wait? He's been in the NFL twice as long as the guys you mentioned. He's hemorrhaging money by not signing a contract that he should've signed two years ago.

[@FalseNi9e]

Lamar is the problem and he's playing his cards right out the league! Lamar is doing this to himself! Stop blaming others for his own doing!

[@AlexandertheGregfishing]

Lamar refuses to negotiate, not the Ravens. Lamar is injury prone. Lamar's numbers are going south. (From 1 to 14 qbr), not improving. 1-3 with a sub 50 qbr in the playoffs. Lamar"s numbers on game changing throws (Accuracy not bad receivers) #34 deep ball accuracy, #29 Red zone accuracy. Lamar didn't even show up for the playoff game in Cincinnati. Lamar is showing that he is difficult, (Who's gonna trust him now?). Lamar would rather take all the cap money then help his team improve, while everyone says the Ravens haven't given him any weapons, which is false. Lamar could have had a deal 2 seasons ago and has cost himself 20-40 million so far. It's really quite simple why other teams are not lining up to sign him.

[@terrydizzydude4087]

What do you mean "Lamar can never make this money back." ? If Lamar sits out then yes, he can never make the money back. But as long as he doesn't miss a game then that is an ridiculous observation.

[@5000G-x2z]

Josh Allen was the 7th pick his contract and 5 th year option was more that 's why he has made more than Lamar not because Lamar didn't sign a deal yet. They x could have signed the same deal at the same time Josh was still have made more because of his larger rookie contract. These dudes are hacks.

[@joesmith1544]

Eric DeCosta deserves the biggest contract for providing o-line help to Mahomes after what Tampa did to him and oh yeah, trading a 1,000 yard receiver to the Cardinals to help Murray have a stronger passing game. That's Lamar wonderful Ravens GM!

[@_profectus]

Hollywood Brown asked for a trade lol. Didn’t want to play in that system. That’s the answer every time someone says the Ravens don’t provide him with weapons. The best weapon he had got out as soon as he could. You can’t make players come there unless they are drafted.

[@joesmith1544]

@@_profectus DeCosta not only didn't replace Brown but didn't draft any receivers in the 2022 draft.

[@michaelkennedy9241]

FYI, the Ravens had the 3rd best rated line in the NFL, stop making excuses for Lamar being an average QB at best.

[@joesmith1544]

@@michaelkennedy9241 Yeah because offensive lines score touchdowns! Another jealous one. Lamar will move on to better things while you still upset.

[@ddjyt2009]

Interesting… of all of the major professional sports, pundits often say NFL players have the worst contracts largely because the NFL players negotiate from a position of fear. I think I’m starting to understand now.

[@JM-qn3tf]

No, it’s obviously because they get injured way more… How are you this slow?

[@GTJC]

@@JM-qn3tf Thats exactly why they should have better contracts. How are you this slow?

[@JM-qn3tf]

@@GTJC that’s the dumbest argument in history. Congrats.

[@GTJC]

@@JM-qn3tf nah its #2 behind that dumb ass comment you posted originally.

[@James-cl2ph]

Was a mvp 2 years ago

[@charlespurvis6142]

he was a mvp 4 yrs ago can ya stop lol

[@redmanjohnson4616]

Exactly...

[@504slim]

I’m sorry but Lamar is handling this situation very poorly I know some of y’all think he know what he is doing look at the money loss just because he doesn’t have an agent and stop comparing r smith and l tinsel to him they are on a second tier level this man is a big time franchise qb

[@dane3365]

Lamar should wait after the draft.

[@andrewcroken7072]

As an Eagles fan, the Ravens will get rid of Lamar Jackson due to his non exclusive tag and draft an QB like Max Duggan from TCU since Max Duggan can throw the cannon out of the football and can run fast too. He can play against Bengals QB Joe Burrow, Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Steelers QB Kenny Pickett in the 2023 season as the starting QB. Lamar Jackson won't stay on the team so the Ravens will draft Max Duggan in the 1st round of the 2023 NFL Draft. So Max Duggan to be in an Ravens jersey to be sold in stores.

[@jeremiahw1369]

The Watson contract is the issue. Not an agent. Not Lamar. Not injury concerns or anything else. Watson, who is terrible, even at football, is by far the highest paid in guaranteed money. Lamar has the 2nd best contract offer in history sitting on a desk in his house gathering dust. He didn't need an agent to get that. No agent is capable of creating the leverage that Watson had with multiple bids. The Ravens have franchise tag rights to match any offer, and no qbs have ever been traded via offer sheet in history, only one Dt had. The Ravens and Lamar are just waiting to see what happens with the market. Lamar is hoping for Burrow or someone to eclipse the Watson deal, and the Ravens already know that is not going to happen. The franchise tag is a weapon that, in this case, is costing Jackson at least 50 million in guaranteed money, maybe as much as 150 million. That is what the rules are, though, so I don't understand all the nonsense narratives. Lamar just has to play out the tags like Cousins did if he wants that kind of leverage.

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

I stopped reading after you said that Watson is terrible.

[@jeremiahw1369]

@Cool Breeze 2.0 - Mortem Ad Fascists mostly as a person and standard for the best contract. Obviously, he has some redeeming qualities as a qb, but he was only available because the Texans decided he was too toxic to represent them anymore.

[@tyreekguidry]

​@@jeremiahw1369 have you fans of today become this dumb. Watson was the one being disrespected so he wanted to leave and then coincidentally all that crap came out. The courts threw the case out two separate times because all of it was a lie, so the team went to you crazy delusional demented backwards thinking fans for destroying DeShaun Watson and made up some crap called the court of public opinion LoL 😂. I know 100% that white folks and coons hate when a black quarterback is great and levels above white quarterbacks in the NFL and will try to destroy them with extreme prejudice, even if they have to make up major lies. The examples are what we are seeing right now with Lamar Jackson and DeShean Watson. Y'all people are pathetic and sad showing jealousy on someone y'all don't even know. Sadly my race is used to y'all mindsets when we are above and beyond ya'll when it comes to whatever y'all like.

[@SodaPopinksi]

If he had an agent, yes he'd have been paid. The agent would have got him 2 free big macs and fries annually. Maybe a milk shake if they're exceptional negotiators. Lamar will get paid what he wants agent free even if he goes the kirk cousins route. Thay wouldbe 70 million on tags and In 2 years from now 165 miill guaranteed on a 3 year contract. That beats DeSean as far as guarantees.

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

Deshaun will be a out to sign another contract by then.

[@richardmedler4650]

Why the media keep putting out that lamar wanted fully guaranteed contracts when he said his self that he didn't want know fully guaranteed contract the media keeping him from signing with any one the media is doing this because they can't get know information on it

[@newagestudios408]

Lamar too busy looking at what Watson got he needa be worrying about tryna secure his family. Football is a dangerous game 1 hit can end you. Lamar shouldn’t wanna go into another season taking more chances with his future because he tryna chase a contract he obviously just isn’t getting at this point..

[@corning1]

Buddy are you still there?! (Lamar) I. just don’t know it seems like you are trying to speak. But you just took a hell of a HIT! I just popped your skull so hard your eyeball popped out, and it is gross as shiz. Oh hell, I can see this is hard on you guys (the delusional fans and media saying to pay him fully guaranteed), I am sorry, I truly am, but I did say… NO EXCEPTIONS! (Bashes Lamar to the dome with the bat again). - Negan, aka The Owners.

[@S2pidMedia]

This is all on Lamar. Just because someone else got something, maybe even undeservedly, doesn't mean you should get it, get close to it, or get even more. That's just entitlement.

[@soda8736]

Most of these former players can't understand this point

[@S2pidMedia]

@@soda8736 yea. I'm not even against him getting paid, and getting paid well. He just wants too much.

[@DLBanks43]

Lol...A white person in AmeriKKKa talking about entitlement...The Nerve

[@tailoredfitnessatl5044]

Lamar played the year after he won unanimous MVP for 1.3 million. That alone should have been a reason for the Ravens to make him the highest paid QB in the NFL

[@chippope8984]

Not the way that season ended!

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

Right, more than Mahomes? 😂

[@snowhawk04]

The Ravens are 45-16 with him. They have the fifth best record since 2020 with him. Without him, they are 3-9 the past two seasons (0-5, 3-4). They limped into the playoffs last season and was ousted immediately. Their offense averaged 13 points per game without him, worst in the league and behind the Seahawks at 17.8. The Ravens have no alternative right now of Lamar's caliber. He doesn't even need to be the highest paid QB in the NFL. The Ravens just refuse to budge. They want him on a long-term contract so they don't have to pay Lamar another big contract in 3-4 years. They could just pay him a Kirk Cousins type deal. 133/3 straight up instead of 290/6 where 133/3 is part of the deal.

[@17thN.O]

​​@@snowhawk04 Exactly. They want to keep underpaying him like they have his whole career while he basically their passing and running game his whole career. The league, agents and these networks are in cahoots with each other and don't want more players going into negotiations without an agent or seeking guaranteed contracts. That's what this is all about. They are using Lamar Jackson as a highly visible example.

[@Slyme1big]

@@17thN.O they don’t wanna give that young man all that money without one of the NFL handlers getting a cut

[@mcfirebug]

i couldn't disagree more....Ravens actions have nothing to do with LJ not having an agent....he hasn't signed a contract, so how has he loss money?..good job guys!

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

lol Because the other guys already started making the big money because they signed early. Bro, this is not complicated. The sooner you sign for more money, the more money you make. Watson, Allen, etc. will be on their third contract while Lamar is on his second.

[@zhc2200]

He's going to have to play for 32 mil instead of 44+ mil that the Ravens already offered him because he doesn't want to sign a contract lower than Deshaun Watson's contract. And if he sits out, he costs himself a year of salary AND a year of his athletic prime by not playing.

[@redstaper2414]

Well said Plaxico....."self inflicted ". Hire an agent asap. Greed and Pride are not Lamar's friends.

[@5000G-x2z]

Why hire an agent? The price has gone up over the last two years. Joe signs his contract then Lamar asks for the same contract. He doesn't have to sign until the 9 th week of the season and he has until July 15 to get a long term deal . No reason to sign before then.

[@yahwehnotmyway8200]

Nobody pays attention to the rat bird ravens without Lamar Jackson. He is the only notable player since Ray Lewis, Ed Reed.. Plus Josh Allen got paid 2 years ago! They been short changing #8. People are horrible at schematics. Ravens suck without him look at their record. Lamar wins in the end no matter what.

[@chrismacola9945]

Whatever, they're never going to win a SB with him, they know it, and that's why Steve isn't paying him.

[@yahwehnotmyway8200]

@@chrismacola9945 they ain't gone win a Superbowl without him either but they have far better chances of winning with him... As their record shows. Anyway I'm happy SteelersNation next year ⚠️⚠️⚠️🚧🚧🚧😎

[@chrismacola9945]

@@yahwehnotmyway8200 They don't have a shot this year without him but it's better than being hamstrung for the next five years and not having a shot any of those years either. Steve does not like bs like that stupid tweet and him not playing last year when he was more than capable. If he was capable of standing on the sideline with his sunglasses on during one of the last home games, looking like a pimp and NOT limping, then he was capable of playing. Steve doesn't play those games. When a player screws up bigly, they're gone (Cundiff, Evans, Burress). Being a Ravens fan I know. Steve doesn't like that garbage on the team.

[@chrismacola9945]

@@yahwehnotmyway8200 Records and statistics are very deceiving, that's why I don't go by them. He caught the league by surprise during that MVP year and the year before, hence all the wins, but the league caught up with him. Last year they had an easy schedule and the games he won the year before weren't that tough either. Give him the hardest schedule in the league NOW and he wouldn't even have a winning record. He's only going downhill now. We have to take that into consideration more than his inflated past success.

[@yahwehnotmyway8200]

@@chrismacola9945 check out the individual stats on Lamar he is impeccable in throwing and running combined and he has stats that show he's one of the best since the NFL merger. With no notable teammates! The league catches up to everyone. No one person is extremely great, that's why Brady and the Patriots cheated. Lamar deserves to get paid, no question. Name 4 good teammates he's had.. he is the first quarterback to have his team averaging 180 yards running. His record is like 65-15 as a starter, again with no real assistance and a coach that should have been fired years ago. The man is undeniable, unless the person speculating 🤔 is biased

[@AAMS664]

When Washington did Doug Williams dirty, they never won another Super Bowl. I don’t know why franchises do these things but it backfires on the organization I believe. He’s absolutely not happy in Baltimore. That’s what I believe as well.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

Ummmmmm they won another Super Bowl in 1991 with Mark Rypien at quarterback. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AAMS664]

@@johnbrowntheprophet thanks for correcting me on that. I thought Joe Theismann won two. I forgot all about Mark.

[@austinstyles6393]

What are they doing that’s dirty to Lamar? It’s a business negotiation. They offered him a contract they felt was fair and good for the organization and Lamar. He did not like the offer so he passed which is his right. Now he has the ability to talk to any team he wants, if they offer what he wants good for him.

[@AAMS664]

@@austinstyles6393 the thing that ticks me off about Baltimore is why have a great QB like LJ and don’t get him a badass WR or RB. Jimmy Johnson did that for Aikman. They sabotaged him on purpose. I’m done..

[@austinstyles6393]

@@AAMS664 So you actually think the Baltimore Ravens, one of the best franchises in the NFL are purposely putting together a poor roster to sabotage LJ?!?…oooohkay 🙄

[@DLBanks43]

He don't need a agent..Stop it...If he gets an agent as long as the agent is Black

[@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801]

Lamar coming into DRAFT without a AGENT is the REAL OUTLIER which is why the COLLUDING NFL MACHINE is fighting extremely hard for Lamar not to get fully guarantee deal. If it was truly about fully guarantee deals Cousins and Watson would have not gotten one. A big part of the NFL MACHINE are AGENTS and INSIDERS. They all work together with the owner for the best interest of the NFL and not necessarily the players especially if you're not a QB. In my opinion and base on jersey sales Lamar is the true FACE of the NFL with his electrifying plays and humble respectable personality. A lot young people idolize Lamar because of his "RAPPER" like looking image and accent which is more identifiable with the next generation of upcoming fan. Lamar getting a FULLY guarantee deal WITHOUT A AGENT at the QB position would be PRECIDENT and no doubt the next generation of QB will probably be influence by this and follow his lead to make it a TREND

[@soda8736]

Face of the league???? Your trippin

[@andrewcroken7072]

As an Eagles fan, the Ravens will get rid of Lamar Jackson due to his non exclusive tag and draft an QB like Max Duggan from TCU since Max Duggan can throw the cannon out of the football and can run fast too. He can play against Bengals QB Joe Burrow, Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Steelers QB Kenny Pickett in the 2023 season as the starting QB. Lamar Jackson won't stay on the team so the Ravens will draft Max Duggan in the 1st round of the 2023 NFL Draft. So Max Duggan to be in an Ravens jersey to be sold in stores.

[@osiriskirkricardoelbey6801]

@@andrewcroken7072 drafting a franchise QB is a crap shoot remembered all the hype around Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Vince Young, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, David Carr, JaMarcus Russell, Blaine Gabbert Sam Bradford,, Colt McCoy, Marcus Mariota Mitch Trubisky, Jameis Winston , Sam Darnold, Zach Wison, Baker Mayfield and that just what i cam remember LOL