"I Wouldn't Mind Smacking Him in the Mouth!" | Law & Order

[@NixonRules963]

This episode has a great ending. Essentially the defendant claims he was racially harassed at work and that after the racial harassment escalated he killed his co-worker during an argument. McCoy's counter is that racism is severely diminished in the modern day (he argues it practically doesn't exist) and isn't enough emotional abuse to justify killing. The jury convicts the Defendant, and on the way home after the trial McCoy and Kincaide are summoning a cab. A cab pulls up and while McCoy starts to get in, Kincaide points out that another African-American man down the street had been waiting longer and was skipped. As the African-American man angrily throws his hands up at the cab, the cab driver simply asks McCoy if he's getting in. The episode ends with McCoy realizing that perhaps racism isn't completely eradicated in modern society.

[@ccvv1119]

Thing is throughout the trial you found out he was definitely racially harassed he hates his race too a regular Clarence Thomas but I’m glad the jury saw through the “black rage” defense

[@jexelbur6872]

That is… wow. That’s a bold argument to make, even for McCoy. I don’t think being discriminated against is reason to kill someone, but to say that racism practically doesn’t exist (whether directly or not) is a short-sighted tactic. Even if it’s to convict a person who the evidence says is guilty.

[@benivinson3693]

i mean i feel like McCoy would know thats not true, like racism is 100% not as bad as the sixties, not eve n close but it still exists in many forms.

[@Toneill029]

@@benivinson3693 MCoy seems to believe in anything that will ensure he wins in court at any given time.

[@marksmith3947]

​@@Toneill029Mccoy has the ethics of an alley cat

[@NonSenseMcGee]

"Without motive you couldnt convince a jury water's wet." Subtle and hilarious Adam. 😂

[@christopherwalker5878]

“Just because I know how to scramble eggs doesn’t mean I made breakfast.” He had some hilarious dry one liners that often go unnoticed, but they’re great.

[@vinceedwards3978]

Sciff did get some great lines!

[@aileensmith6806]

Lol

[@NonSenseMcGee]

​@@mychatpalace😂

[@WadeAlma]

Water isn’t wet, water makes things wet.

[@ryang183]

For those who do not know, Greer is played by Courtney Vance who went on to portray ADA Carver on Law and Order Criminal Intent

[@Iamkcs2c]

I was listening to this and his voice threw me.

[@johnofmalta]

Seaman Beaumont says it’s Paganini.

[@josephdell8056]

His voice is the dead give away!

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

Quite a few members of the cast appeared in guest roles before being part of the main cast.

[@themermaidstale5008]

And a brief tour of duty on The Closer.

[@Tulane_Gargoyle]

"We would be remiss if we weren't ready to challenge his credibility". Now THAT is brilliant.

[@ktom5262]

One of the best shows ever. So well written and diected, and very consistently over the years.

[@intldawn]

“What psychic are you planning to call as your first witness?” I fucking love Adam 😂

[@DrakeSmith-tn6ij]

Steven Hill did a great job as Schiff.

[@metamorphicme9378]

OG savage!😂😂😂😂

[@marksmith3947]

I'm so glad he is serving the American people in congress now

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

The criminals never understand that almost nothing can escape to the forensics

[@kreigguardsman3355]

Sadly that isn’t as true in real life

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

​@@kreigguardsman3355Yeep, but dreaming it's free

[@dmf1301]

Also that wasn’t as true in the 1990s. Forensic science has advanced greatly over the decades, but Lenny Briscoe and Mike Logan were paired together in the 90s for their episodes.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@dmf1301 That's true too

[@jaimeduncan6167]

The police either and plant a lot.

[@curtisberard7831]

"I graduated from..." Age does not denote maturity *Education does not denote intelligence.* Wealth and social status does not denote class. Volume does not denote veracity.

[@newellaorbana]

Good. Homeless Bob do your dental work, You will save a ton of money!

[@woodwyrm]

@@newellaorbana Considering this was shot in the nineties, I suspect Mr Bud Greer made it in to Harvard on a Affirmative Action ticket lel, so in effect, Bud Greer _is_ the homeless man fixing to die.

[@chetthehoss]

@@woodwyrm Oh goodie! Another brainwashed soul who has a lack of understanding about affirmative action and diversity initiatives.

[@mikekling7144]

It doesn't matter in prison 😂

[@jayman105]

"Do your thing, Lenny."

[@jeffreysnydr]

Should have stuck to the convience stores bud."

[@September2004]

0:03 I like that forensic accountant.

[@metamorphicme9378]

An awfully excited forensic accountant 😂😂😂😂

[@Jodacro-it4zz]

Is that courtney b vance aka ada carver from criminal intent

[@billcox8870]

And after he comes out of the joint, he is Ada Carver😂

[@Jaren929]

From Criminal Intent

[@billcox8870]

@@Jaren929 absolutely correct!

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

No freakin way

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Amazing how that works 😂

[@billcox8870]

@DaneOrschlovsky they do tend to recycle actors. The woman who played lieutenant Anita Van Buren played a mother of a child in one of the first three seasons of the original Law & Order

[@jmckdekalb316]

From suspect to lawyer on their series

[@viettungtruong2660]

That’s Courney B. Vance, he played ADA Ron Carver in Criminal Intent

[@moodyblues1273]

Angela Bassett's husband.

[@ifeelpretty5790]

And won an Emmy for playing Johnnie Cochran in American Crime Story!

[@JedEmpleo]

Don't forget, Sonar Tech Jones from Hunt for Red October

[@Melina-fi3sc]

That's funny.... Courtney B. Vance as a criminal 🤣 He was a D.A. in Law & Order: Criminal Intent.

[@misterwhipple2870]

That wasn't the ONLY thing he was . . . if I elaborated, they'd kick me off KZbin.

[@juliantapia1407]

​@@misterwhipple2870 ?😮

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

I was a Security Policeman (back when dinosaurs walked the earth :-)). One Sat. night a Colonel comes up to the EC (entry control point) with some civilians. They are all fairly Hammered, and he wants to bring them on to the flight line. I ask him to wait, and he plays the Don't You Know Who I Am game.Long story short, He's eating through a straw and I don't know where he went, but I never saw him again. 2 games you do NOT want to play with Law Enforcement 1. Don't You Know Who I Am! and related The Attitude Game. Nothing good comes from them.

[@nyosito]

Should have stuck to the convenience stores Bud

[@myrnalaboy2840]

No one outruns forensics

[@frostgfx]

This was Enron only in the 90s.

[@ashb7846]

Oh there were so many big fraud scandals prior to Enron, but I think Enron was the one that forced laws to change because it happened on such a huge scale. I wonder if this was based somewhat on Bankers Trust since it took place in NY but idk. Or I wonder if this episode was based on all the rumors of fraud with companies like Enron and Arthur Anderson but before investigators actually had enough evidence gathered to make charges.

[@ItsAllLove4Real]

I love how they recycle their actors😆

[@javierpatag3609]

The good news is that most of them are good actors anyway, so welcome back. 🙂

[@ExplorerDS6789]

A lot of TV shows do that. Someone guest stars one season, the next season they plan a recurring character.

[@ItsAllLove4Real]

@@ExplorerDS6789 I know

[@ItsAllLove4Real]

@@javierpatag3609 Okay

[@glambertgurl1117]

​@@javierpatag3609Yes, especially Jerry Orbach. I mean, I wasn't around when he was a big name in Hollywood, not that he isn't now, but I have great respect for him and other older actors. If it weren't for them, movies and shows wouldn't be what they are now.

[@metamorphicme9378]

Logan retires NYPD and goes on to be Mr Big😂

[@UNIT294]

They pretty much just described the entire Enron scheme.

[@alex1vid]

What a U-Turn... to think he'd turn into an ADA later! lol

[@MuzzyBarker]

Okay, but if the detectives were within their rights to open the drawer in search of other items related to elements of the crime, why wouldn't they have the right to look at something in that drawer?

[@MainDrainStudios]

prosecution did make that point, and made it well. and as the clip shows, the problem ended up being that the warrant is for 'elements of the crime', and the judge declared that 'motive' is not an 'element of the crime'

[@boredlawyer3382]

The 4th Amendment protects against "unreasonable searches and seizures." It has to be both. They might have had the right to look into the drawer, but not just take anything there. And financial records are not obvious evidence of a murder, the way, say, a gun or a bloody knife would be.

[@MuzzyBarker]

@@MainDrainStudios But at the point that the drawer is open, it's in plain view.

[@RLucas3000]

@@MuzzyBarker they are saying even though paper such as financial records aren’t an obvious indicator of a crime the way a bloody knife or bloody clothes they might have found inside the drawer.

[@newellaorbana]

@@MuzzyBarker They were looking for murder evidence, not fraud evidence.

[@ajvanmarle]

Also known as "can dish it out, but cannot take it"

[@boredlawyer3382]

The whole scene with the financial records is off. The same records are with the company, and if you know what to look for, they can uncover the whole scheme. They can just subpoena the records from the company, who will be happy to help prove they were being defrauded.

[@bgdancer100]

Except that they would only know to subpoena the records the company has because of what they know from the records that have been excluded. Fruit of the poisonous tree.

[@boredlawyer3382]

@@bgdancer100 Not necessarily so. He was already a suspect, they had a valid search warrant for some things, and they found the victim's print in the guy's bathroom. That certainly makes him a suspect. He also works in the financial industry, as did the victim (I think). So it would be perfectly natural under those circumstances to look into the suspect's financial dealings, even if they had not wrongfully seized the records from his house. Pulling the suspect's bank and other financial records is SOP, especially in a case like this, where other motives (like a love triangle or adultery) do not appear present.

[@studentofsmith]

Actually the company might not be so eager to make it public knowledge that they were defrauded. It might damage their reputation.

[@vinceedwards3978]

I wish you could watch these early seasons of L&O more easily. Peacock only shows seasons 13-20, and season 22!

[@Wolffen51]

That and it’s not available in Canada

[@vinceedwards3978]

@@Wolffen51 That is sad. I am a 100% New Yorker, I miss the early stuff!

[@thewkovacs316]

and finding pirate streams for this show is almost impossible

[@bsngrl1]

WEtv

[@thewkovacs316]

@@bsngrl1 we shows all seasons?

[@nicholasmaude6906]

1:09 - Hey, it's a younger ADA Carver from L&O:CI.

[@sdaiwepm]

Stanford GSB does not award summa, magna, etc.

[@Icecube88]

it was just showing that he was ambitious/determined/smart/how good he is/whatever

[@MichaelKurse]

He's a liar, and a fraud.

[@jbevan4411]

Gotta love Courtney B Vance

[@twoofthree]

2:04 Like They Care about Your Diplomas.

[@MichaelKurse]

We don't care.😑😑😑

[@frankbonini7085]

CBV Would Make a FREAKING Awesome Duke Brother in a (Hypothetical) "Trading Places" Reboot!

[@aaronbrigham4743]

Well I have resulted in a trillion dollars in trade so you can be quiet since you only went to a billion. 🤣🤣🤣

[@wickidblazed420]

My mum went to Harvard and graduated

[@Joedirt3349]

cool story bro

[@moonmama24]

I immediately thought y'all better leave Angela Bassett husband Courtney alone lol

[@Blueboy0316]

"Now brush your teeth in a rapid vertical motion! Troop!"

[@misterbin00]

He's the director of NCIS, so I do think it makes him better than an ordinary detective.

[@MrPolicekarim]

I think that you have gotten him mixed up with Rocky Carroll, who plays Director Leon Vance!

[@rachelgarber1423]

Courtney B. Vance later hired to work for the DA

[@madunwagbo4769]

When Logan met Carver

[@afihaileywibowo1095]

Logan should've replied to Greer, calmly: Maybe. But I'm not the one accused of doing a bogus job which is why you are sitting on that chair right now so self-righteously defending your bogus trade with your 'degrees' and bonus, Bud. You are what you are, not your degrees. Lenny, do your job.

[@Wolffen51]

Ok so spoilers requested please…what was the continuation of this episode and what was the final outcome?

[@michaelcollins2030]

The persons defence was that essentially because of his race as a black man in a all white Wall Street firm he was in over his head and the final outcome was guilty on all charges

[@Wolffen51]

@@michaelcollins2030 ok thanks

[@toastnjam7384]

Him and his lawyer played the race card all through the trial and during jury selection his lawyer got him a majority black jury. He arrogantly refused a plea deal for man one and was convicted with second degree murder.

[@Idez15]

2:36 same 😂

[@crucifire9224]

I saw smack and a blur looking like will smith in thumbnail

[@syedhaider5009]

There should be also videos from Law and order criminal intent also on this channel

[@MrBmick79]

a lotta racial undetones in this one. Mike didn't like being talked to like that by a Black man

[@sav9798]

at allll lmao

[@themermaidstale5008]

Mike wouldn’t have liked it from any man, regardless of color. Mikes not the one being considered a person of interest for a murder and a broker defrauding his employer for undeserved bonuses from bogus accounting practices.

[@carloruiz2814]

This episode is based on Joseph Jett, who was a trader for Kidder Peabody.

[@joshuaengleman1131]

# 262 Palindrome!!!! WHOOOOOOO.... DOGGY!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@Icecube88]

so what happened with this case?

[@FrankWolenczak]

"On the sole count of the indictment, Murder in the second degree, how do you find?" "We find the defendant Benjamin Greer, Guilty." Who then looks shocked that the Jury sided against him

[@YuvalQ]

I feel that if this episode aired nowadays, the jury's decision to convict, based on the blatant racism the defendant had to endure, would have seemed somewhat unreasonable by today's terms. Or at the very least, it wouldn't be such a straight and easy conviction and the prosecutor would have much rathered plea him down.

[@MuzzyBarker]

Anger isn't a defense for homicide. People commit crimes of passion all the time. He could have plead to manslaughter by arguing that there was no premeditation, but that would be a tough sell considering he went to the apartment uninvited and had the presence of mine to stage a suicide. Anyway, he said he wasn't interested in any deals. I think the conviction had less to do with the relevance of the racism he faced than it had to do with the burden of an insanity plea. His being offended by his boss didn't negate his ability to know that breaking a man's neck was wrong.

[@YuvalQ]

@@MuzzyBarker If I remember correctly, Hullbruck invited Greer to his apartment to confront and berate him. And while I agree anger isn't a defence for homicide, the case made by the civil rights attorney was strong enough and has shown a consistency of abuse to justify the defendant state of mind at that time. As such, convicting him forthwith would have been challenging.

[@MuzzyBarker]

@@YuvalQ He didn't, though. He cited a couple of incidents, one of which had a major consequence, and neither of which came from the victim. And we didn't get enough of a timeline to establish consistency. The incidents, abusive though they were, justified anger, not insanity. In order for the insanity defense to work, they would have to establish that the abuse took away his ability to know that what he was doing was wrong. The defense not only failed to establish that, but made very little effort in that vain, from what we saw. Considering they had a majority black jury and a barebones defense, it seems more likely they were shooting for nullification.

[@RebekahCurielAlessi]

​@@YuvalQthanks for your reasoning....

[@RebekahCurielAlessi]

​@@MuzzyBarkerit's enjoyable reading your conversation with the other fellow.

[@mew10521]

Why didn't Greer leave the job if his boss was racist?

[@MJMonroe]

christopher darden

[@erikafigueroa5128]

Ms Kincaid are you surprised? Come on.

[@MichaelKurse]

Black man in the White Man's World? Why?😑😑😑

[@themermaidstale5008]

Money is everyone’s world.

[@timwood225]

Not real accounting described here. Ok for a story, but not how the world works.

[@paulkennedy927]

Wasn't that how Arthur Anderson made it work for Enron?

[@timwood225]

@@paulkennedy927 In the video, the actor describes recording profit when cash received. This is not how most of the world works. What actually happens is that revenue/income is recorded at time of sale whether or not cash changed hands. And that revenue/income is what, for example, taxes are based on (subject to adjustments). If not paid at time of sale, then both revenue and a receivable are recorded, and when that is paid, cash is increased (because received) and the receivable reduced (because paid). And this is called accrual accounting, which is correct for almost all businesses. The alternative is "cash accounting," in which the movement of cash determines when things have happened, which is approximately what is described in the video. And sometimes cash accounting is the right way. In the video the "criminal" is doing accrued accounting the right way, except there never was a sale. Enron did something else. If memory serves, they found a way to list expenses as assets. And that is a complete 100% no-no. Also fraud and a crime. A little like telling your girlfriend's father you're worth $100,000 when really you owe $100,000 on a car you should not have bought.

[@shesarunningshesatrackstar7882]

Very handsome see why Angela Bassett married him 😅😅

[@dyquancrawford6818]

3:02

[@arielg7000]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@JeremyRobbins-b1n]

Courtney B. Vance was terrific character in this L&O episode as Bud Greer. He was imo really great as Ron Carver on Criminal Intent.

[@89five3five]

Courtney B. Vance is truly an underrated actor.

[@armandgordon]

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[@main___name___main___name]

The so-called law protects the criminal's right to commit crime.