'Innocent' Until Proven Guilty | Law & Order SVU

A 'thought' provoking case, to say the very least...
Clip from Season 15, Episode 23 "Thought Criminal": The SVU team investigates Simon Wilkes as part of their active approach to catching sex offenders. They suspect the well-regarded photographer with a secret life has let his fantasies cross over into reality.
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[@TheReigningRaven]

“Kevin your search history was so bad we had to throw out your computer”

[@JrueThrondsen]

😂

[@Josh.WDW.]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brokenpieces5852]

Man props to people who have to do this in real life, pretending to be a pedophile to get other ones to trust them. Like how do you not vomit from that?

[@annajoellecloss3831]

Drink a lot of holy water, that’s what you can do!

[@melbell0865]

Dissociation.

[@feraltaco4783]

I've seen a couple of transcripts on Perverted Justice. I haven't been back since. It's revolting.

[@feraltaco4783]

​@@melbell0865when I read transcripts of that garbage I had to just see it as words on a page. I couldn't think further than that. I would have just rage vomited blood.

[@Aakino]

If they vomit, no one will save those children. 😢

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

This adds more evidence to the theory that everyone who works at Dunder Mifflin is actually a prisoner and the whole office is a virtual reality prison.

[@terminator3768]

And the series finale was the end of the simulation

[@jaredgold1742]

lol

[@matthaddock1817]

Does that make Michael Scott the warden? 😳

[@lifewithdrawable9022]

even JIm and Pam?

[@jamiearmstrong3487]

@@lifewithdrawable9022 Bonnie and Clive - poor Dwight was mistakenly moved from protective.

[@CC-si3cr]

Amanda in that very expensive white dress. Gorgeous!! She was working it! I love it when they get to do undercover work.

[@thehangmansdaughter1120]

I take my hat off to any actor who can pretend to be such a twisted pervert. It must take an emotional toll.

[@idrinkmocha-d2f]

Mmmm probably not so hard for them as you may think

[@Rockas360]

Kevin's life really derailed after the office

[@thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504]

oh man I didn't know it was Kevin so this is how he losses his Job in the Office....

[@ICD2012]

Bob Sagot r.i.p

[@nicolehegarty4749]

Lol she is from Orange Is The New Black! 😂 Soso! ♥️

[@samg873]

This is really disturbing

[@belladharma]

Kevin, how could you?

[@LLOOYYYDD]

*I want to make a kevin joke but im kinda grossed out by this clip*

[@jessicas1168]

Anyone remember Jimmy the cab driver from mtv? Love Donal!!

[@originsmenagerie9920]

Look at them! Look at them and LAUGH!

[@JustPassinThru70]

Don't care for the Lieutenant in this series, seems very phony.

[@thunderstorm838]

is that Dr. Chilton?

[@AncestorEmpire1]

In today’s society, it’s guilty until proven innocent

[@red_five3325]

More like guilty DESPITE proven innocent.

[@raechelcleberg8854]

Unfortunately so

[@changeoffocus1074]

Only today’s? Where have you been, in a bubble?

[@bellerain381]

With this uptick in domestic violence, murders and crimes against minors, that made be necessary.

[@red_five3325]

@@bellerain381 then you're okay with false allegations, or said false accusers facing no meaningful penalties. Is that what you're saying?

[@JaxonIrving]

ok i died when it was Kevin.

[@DarthAnnhiliax]

He dropped the chili

[@AndrewBarsky]

WOW. That cop in the holding cell with Kevin has to be some of the most terrible acting I’ve ever seen. Not even for like the lore of the show, it’s just really bad.

[@tommygunreleased]

KEVIN

[@fireflymiesumae]

What episode season and episode is this?

[@RebeccaMasesie]

Not kevin....

[@Lolj5678]

Doesn’t she play on orange is in the new black?

[@L.R.T.]

No Keviiiiinnnnn

[@whywelovefilm7079]

That’s what I never understood about situations like this and like how they catch people on “To Catch a Predator.” I’m not defending them but what are they charged with? The girls they used to catch guys are never actually underage. They’re talking to another grown adult. Kevin had a point there, are they arresting him for thinking?

[@anjelica948]

Its called intent, and people get charged with intent all the time, in a variety of ways. Intent to sell illegal drugs. Intent to distribute outlawed material (such as CP or instructions on how to make explosives, or unregistered firearms) Intent to deprive a person of property (also known as larceny) So yeah, there’s a ton of legal precedent. The man believed she was an underaged girl, and he clearly had intention to travel to another country, and bring her back to the States (also known as human trafficking), and the reason why is because he wanted to sleep with her, and that intent can be inferred because of how the girl was presenting herself.

[@whywelovefilm7079]

@@anjelica948 ahhh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up…

[@whywelovefilm7079]

@@anjelica948 so if those creeps would’ve just stayed at home and only stuck to messaging then it wouldn’t be illegal? Like the second they showed up at the house is when it became intent? Or am I wrong and the whole thing is intent from the second they send something inappropriate?

[@anjelica948]

@@whywelovefilm7079 It depends on the specific contents of the messages, I imagine, bc otherwise they wouldn’t have arrested him in the first place. But different states have different definitions of what constitutes as intent, so in one state the messages of ‘I want to come to Bangkok and bring you back to America’ could constitute as intent, but in another State, he might actually have to purchase a plane ticket to prove intent. This is why good lawyers get paid well, bc in cases like these, there’s tons of grey area and different ways to interpret the written words of the law.

[@tylociraptor8131]

KEVIN NOOOOOOOO

[@timtima_8541]

kimiko glenn!!

[@nessenessekim1038]

so many freaks out there

[@edithbella1018]

I knew it was soso

[@thefilmanalyzer]

What episode is this?

[@nikkiej.5875]

In the description, it always says the season and the episode.

[@ferminballesteros7462]

I always knew there was something wrong with kevin

[@lightyagami5317]

KEVIN!!!!

[@leroyhuxleyrocks]

Brook soso

[@khalilreid]

Are they real detectives

[@leonhardeuler675]

Perp: "That girl is not 14" (which she demonstrably isn't) Police: "Doesn't matter, you thought she was" Clearly he didn't think that. The police have zero case here. This is like entrapment that is so bad, it's not even entrapment.

[@323azteca]

The perp thought she was 14yrs old when he chatted with her and asked her to take her shirt off. He realized she wasn't when he saw her in person.

[@chrisfry436]

So she is not 14 what did he think?? 15? 16? 17? does it matter? nope! booo hoooo,,,,lol, he got found out, good job!

[@dbuzman]

@@chrisfry436 She looks to be mid to late 20's at best. Maybe he thought that.

[@gizzmowalliss]

@@dbuzmandoesn’t matter what age she is she calmed to be 14 he heard it that makes it his fault.

[@leonhardeuler675]

@@chrisfry436 She's clearly an adult. If she wants to pretend to be 14 on the internet, that's her business. #FreeKevin

[@dontask2587]

My hand went over my mouth when it was Kevin from the Office. How could you Kevin? You were so stupid and funny.

[@TPTGopher]

Let's be honest: if TCAP had done a sting in northeastern PA, the chances of Kevin being told to have a seat by Chris Hansen are not zero.

[@rbrucerye]

Satan: "It's always the one you least suspect. Funny how that works."

[@eliesh3833]

Still, really goes to show. Everyone has indeed been on _Law and Order._

[@jayczzzya]

Lets not forget Kevin emblezzed thousands from Dunder Mifflin to open his bar

[@Wolfie713]

@@eliesh3833 Except me and people I know.

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

There are four things pedos fear most: exposure, cops, angry fathers and Chris Hansen.

[@bigfunnyfilms7548]

Incorrect. This one fears bears, beets, and battlestar galactica

[@jpprophete1988]

Don’t forget Steve Wilkos as well.

[@KrushKrills]

"Why dont you take a seat over there"

[@amberroberts3031]

So one thing? Being caught

[@yucol5661]

Pedos being afraid of father would be self hatred most of the time. Real life shows abuse is way more common in the home than by randoes

[@Kris-zy7is]

NOOOOOO not Kevin!

[@audraarndt1824]

I was gonna say the same thing. 😂

[@damienwilloughby]

🤣

[@noneofyamfbiiizznnaass8746]

I said the same thing

[@PopStarLegend4365]

I thought I’d recognized that guy from The Office!

[@Alikatt9]

Same

[@bellerain381]

Raul’s acting is AMAZING! The horror in his voice as he reads aloud the post and how he has to contain his rage…..what an amazing talent!

[@jaredgold1742]

i eat food and drink pop i am a fucking boy

[@jaredgold1742]

yup u r right

[@2luvdistrini]

He was the absolute BEST lawyer in Law & Order history!!! Everything from his chemistry with the cops to his trial scenes. I wish i could see him in more shows

[@fjorgyn7438]

​@@2luvdistrinibest lawyer since Cabot, imo.

[@aliciaz6224]

@@2luvdistrini check him out in "Hannibal" if you haven't already!

[@MizLaur]

The Captain peeing himself in holding was absolute perfection.

[@fjorgyn7438]

Donal Logue is a fantastic actor, there's no question.

[@samanthab1923]

@@fjorgyn7438What’s he been doing lately? Last I saw him was SOA & Vikings

[@denisenoe3702]

I wonder how they actually did that. What device with water did they put inside his pants?

[@relenasoulheart9503]

I’ve seen him in Gotham. He played Harvey Bullock.

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

@@denisenoe3702 Donal is such a committed actor, he went full method for that scene.

[@Kyrridwen420]

"Sir, you're under arrest for spilling the chilli" 😂😂

[@matthaddock1817]

And for breaking into vending machines and looting snacks during a fake fire drill!

[@katherinebass530]

Beans 🫘

[@propogandalf]

Love Donal Logue as an actor. Never understood why he didn't blow up more. Great dramatic and comedic chops

[@fjorgyn7438]

He was incredible in sons of anarchy

[@Filmation77]

Its comes down to how he came in: 1st break was playing a character in MTV shorts in the early 90's ,then you MIGHT remember from the mockumentary "Medusa:Dare to Be Truthful " OR the FOX sitcom "Grounded for Life" but most Modern fans know him from The CW(??) BATMAN prequel series "Gotham " (aka The Batman Smallville)

[@lucystoner]

I always love his performances, but really he gets the best of both worlds with consistent work with interesting roles without having people pry into his life too much.

[@DorvellTStewart]

Wish he had become a main cast member.

[@joncarroll2040]

He does pretty well for himself especially as a character actor.

[@CharlesRaines4946]

Getting exposed looks bad but getting caught with your pants down in the prescence of a minor looks even worse!

[@ryder389]

I love Kimiko Glenn- She’s such a great actress!

[@RandomManIncorperated]

I Thought I Recognized Her! I Didn't Know Peni Parker & The Current Voice Of Nifty From Hazbin Hotel Was On Law&Order

[@yukisanscorner3582]

Brook Soso from OITNB ❤❤❤

[@samwilson188]

THAT WAS KIMIKO GLENN?!!

[@greenbeantm1096]

@@yukisanscorner3582thank you for commenting the character name! My brain could only think of “hope” and I knew for a fact I was wrong 😂

[@DeloresVoskuil]

The woman who played lucky in svu did an awesome job nailing pervs

[@moneppeli]

You mean Penny Parker?

[@DeloresVoskuil]

Yeah that's her name I couldn't remember that thanxs and she is so talented and 🔥

[@Feliciatanktop]

She's a great voice actress in Close Enough

[@gretarose101]

Orange is the New Black too!

[@meganbright2602]

I was gonna add too how she's in Orange is the New Black series. But someone has already mentioned it

[@virg0_lem0nade]

omg they even DRESSED him like Kevin!!! 😂😂😂😂 or like the guy with the stapler from Office Space hahhaa

[@grt1769]

"How could this not be a trap?" -Herbert the pervert

[@shiaras4675]

I can't imagine being hired as a defense lawyer in cases like these

[@hardwirecars]

why not hillary clinton used to she was also really good at convincing a jury the 8 year old girl wanted to be raped by an old man

[@jedisam22]

That's literally why I chose not to go to law school. I strongly believe everyone is entitled to a defense and didn't want to ever have to be the one doing it.

[@totalweirdo8538]

​@@jedisam22I'm getting my law degree at the moment. This is still something I struggle with everyday

[@EthalaRide]

Best way to think about being a defense lawyer for cases like these is -if you do your job as Defense to the best of your ability, then any verdict brought about in the court of law is -*-not thrown away through mistrial.-* If you're a bad defense attorney, the creep can file for a mistrial and walk, but if the defense is good and they still get punished, that punishment STICKS.

[@OneWeirdDude]

​@@EthalaRide Smart thinking. I only know about that from a novel I read once.

[@LadyVader]

"And the American South" "no comment" Ice T cracks me up in this show 😂

[@torakunoichi]

What does it mean by that?

[@greenbeantm1096]

@@torakunoichiit’s because it’s not surprising. The American south has a high number of highly religious people, and highly religious people don’t exactly have a winning track record when it comes to not being fucked up creeps, pedos, rapists, etc.

[@jrkorman]

@@torakunoichiThe folks on the east and west coast who think they are so much better than others! Can you say "stereotyping". Remember the episode where the main character says, "My sister lives in Omaha; she doesn't have a life!" Says a lot about how some of these writers think.

[@cindys9858]

@@jrkorman Get what you are saying and yeah Hollywood is in a bubble, but statistically, it is true about the American south.

[@mskaymart]

💀💀💀

[@deicidalmaniac]

Crazy seeing Brian Baumgartner in this role after seeing him play Kevin for years..

[@CARL_093]

1:53 wtf Kevin no way

[@RockU2Death5150]

"Remember me?" BUSTED. 🚨

[@lisastalnaker4097]

Peeing? Now that’s committing to the role.

[@LillyanneGaliki]

"So I'm arrested for thinking"..?😂😂😅

[@JayDuron-in1hj]

Dang it Kevin! First you drop the chili, then illegal gambling, now this. Peace ✌🏻

[@StrangePinkDust]

I can't believe Kevin got an new job, look what it has made him. 😢

[@FreeThePorgs]

Kevin???!!!! What will Dewight think???? and jim????? He will be fired so much!!!!

[@matthaddock1817]

What will Michael think?! And the entire staff?!

[@jessicaslater4243]

The one glaring issue here is the reason they don't show the ACTUAL decoy on TCaP, but rather use a childhood photo from a member of the staff. It would be very easy to get off without any charges because all you'd have to say is "As soon as I saw her, I realized it was a 19 year old pretending to be 14!" and there's no real way of proving that to be a lie, because it really WAS a girl of legal age PRETENDING to be a minor, which is why TCaP always made sure never to let the predators see the decoy until AFTER the actual crime (showing up after expressing intent) was committed.

[@amach3639]

So this is what Detective Bullock did before he transferred to Gotham.

[@maestroclassico5801]

One crappy job to another! 😂

[@Basarius]

He did a stint working with Max Payne (in New York funnily enough) and then finally got murdered in Sons of Anarchy. It's the Bullockverse

[@maestroclassico5801]

@@Basarius Donal Logue tends to play tough but likeable guys. I remember he was one of Mel Gibson's colonial soldiers in THE PATRIOT.

[@Basarius]

@@maestroclassico5801 aye he's got a good body of work under him. I really like him as an actor.

[@maestroclassico5801]

@@Basarius ditto.

[@ryanmeech8630]

What a star-studded cast in this episode! Kevin from The Office & Will Baily from West Wing!

[@absoluteterror9098]

And Soso from Orange is the New Black

[@jays447]

Barba's face at 0:50... he's like, "now you're just fishing for crimes."

[@FaithMichelle420]

“i’m arrested for thinking?!” no you’re arrested for having sexual conversations with someone you believed to be under the age of 18, if you’re willing too talk to someone you think is under 18 you will talk and or do worse to someone you KNOW is under 18.

[@perksofvon]

wait is that the girl who played in Orange is the new Black??

[@susieq8424]

Yep, Kimiko Glenn

[@draco84oz]

L&O once again being a meeting house for actors - Brian Baumgartner from The Office, Joshua Malina from The West Wing, Kimiko Glenn from Into/Across the Spiderverse, Donal Logue from...everything (The Patriot, Gotham, Zodiac...)

[@joostverweij5440]

Is this how Soso landed in jail?

[@HoneyBunnzz]

That would be HILARIOUS 😭

[@angelreilly8312]

Is that who it is?!

[@joostverweij5440]

@@angelreilly8312 I mean, I think so..?

[@christumaxpuac2825]

Not my boy Kevin

[@jambeard6201]

hey thats kimiko glenn from orange is the new black , had no clue she made an appearence this show

[@Kelly-mi1yz]

“Little cases make big cases” ….. so are they adopting Kevin’s new language he has with his mechanic???

[@swallowedinthesea11]

I'm 24 and although I live in another city and work in construction, my Mom makes me send her my credit card statements because she doesn't want me to buy useless things and my Internet is monitored, I can't even have Netflix. I'm from a Korean family. She controls a lot of my life, unfortunately, and as the oldest I have to look after her. I have told her she's kind of interfering, but I agree that parents need to really talk to their adult and minor children about the dangers of the Internet, teens getting into their friends' cars as there can be distractions while driving, meeting people in person, leaving your drinks alone opening a window for someone to spike them, not honking your car horn, saying thank you when someone hodor for you, etc. Yes, there have been lives taken because the suspects didn't receive a thank you! I have a niece and I couldn't believe I acted like my Mom when I found out she had a lot of social media accounts and 'friends.' No 13 year old has 1200+ followers on Instagram and Facebook.

[@DakotaWard-qn4jg]

That is just wierd. I dont vare what family you come crom you are an adul and you need to make your own decisions, all your mothet is doing is forcing you to be codependent.

[@ruddiko]

You can always escape, go no contact. I know it's hard growing up in south east Asian families but abuse is abuse even if they are more diligent at hiding it and manipulating I know this too well, I'm over a decade your senior and I'm free from my family. I wish you the est

[@eobardthawne7825]

14 year old? she looks like my grandma

[@megandoss6083]

I love Olivia Benson

[@JenX_1973]

Donal Logue is an amazing actor. Loved him every time he was on here!

[@DarkKirby8976]

Kevin's gonna be making his Kevin's famous chili........ IN PRISON!!

[@tracym6652]

The trick is to undercook the onions 🌰

[@concerned_citizen318x]

the peeing was so dramatic😂😂

[@katierowen3166]

Kevin went crazy after he spilled his chili.

[@irishgirl379]

Not kevin from the office 😢😂

[@TPTGopher]

AS much as I love the character, let's be honest: if TCAP did a sting in Northeastern PA, the chances of Kevin Malone being told to Have a Seat by Chris Hansen are not zero.

[@feraltaco4783]

You start to feel bad for them. Then you remember how they got there. Absolute monsters.

[@Cassxowary]

they’re not monsters any more than you are if you’re not vegan (: they’re humans either way not monsters, just like we’re all animals, human and nonhuman. You gotta see the similarities.

[@madM1469]

​@@Cassxowaryew ew ew. Please don't defend the ethics of sexual abuse on a child versus eating meat. What are you even trying to defend?!?!

[@lilamontoya5609]

She's in orange is the new black (:

[@shieh.4743]

Second Orange is the New Black cast member I've seen from old SVU episodes on KZbin. Fun!

[@tcmaddox]

"so im arrested for thinking?" It eas that day that Kevin decided to never think again

[@ItsSkeletor]

Thought we had an Office crossover for a second.

[@alejandrotassone7826]

Ikr!

[@rogerskitt1542]

Love how hes talking about payroll 🤣

[@katev37209]

All he wanted to do was make her Kevin's favorite chili 😂

[@_Jade101]

This was hard to watch, pedophillia is a huge issue!

[@tonystark8014]

Come on Kevin! That’s not what I’d expect from you!

[@Jo-un6es]

KEVIN AND WILL!? NOT MY TWO FAVOURITE TV SHOWS.

[@dudleyville66]

They should have helped him after the chili instead of laughing

[@evantreffinger2009]

Kevin NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@CarlWolf114]

Kevin went down a dark road

[@TNTspaz]

Literally none of this would hold up and all of these people would be released or it would be nearly the easiest appeal their lawyers have ever filed. There is a fine line here that the show doesn't even try to pretend exists. Entrapment is illegal for a reason. The main thing law and order gets right is how little cops know about how the law works. They put in all this work and because of their incompetence/poor emotional control it's worthless and many people who deserve to be in jail get released.

[@1lilteach]

I love this show! However, I have noticed that 80% or more of the episodes deal with blonde or brunette victims that have been assaulted by a male of opposite races. I'm just curious why the storyline does not highlight African American women and men who are victimized.

[@francostevo9939]

There has been

[@Akyomi]

Heyyy thats the dad from Grounded for Life

[@stellargamer4852]

Im all for catching these people but the set up with the chat room was entrapment if its just kept to fantacy and they have no proof on them doing these things for real then just leave them alone theres no need to ruin someones life when they didnt hurt anyone.

[@jakepullman4914]

How is this not entrapment?

[@High_rise12]

No one was forcing them to sext someone they thought was a child

[@happycatlady2012]

Ugh. 🤮

[@TheMadea85]

Not Mr. White Hat, himself David from Scandal 😮

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

Social Media and Adult Video are big bad wolf combination

[@BlairPittams]

Chicken out half way through I'm not finishing that one It gave me the creeps

[@SeanPynrose]

Guess maybe Kevin should have brought Chili that day