VERDICT WATCH: ‘Take Care of Maya’ Trial - Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital - Day 31

[@xokissisxo]

Judge Carol is everything in this trial, unbiased, fair & just I wish all of them were took things serious like he does, one of the best judges I've seen in action! I have gotten a new respect for these judges it's a lot of work, both sides of the lawyers were amazing as well and put on a good case

[@celineshoup6039]

I agree with all you said and want to add the judge is obviously not a Biden appointee.

[@salliem424]

Judge starts to read juror notes at 7:36:20 if anyone is curious

[@xXxXx44447]

Thank you

[@darlacummings12]

Thank you.

[@LisaMartorell]

Thank you!!

[@river8760]

Thanks!

[@NotoriousNewts1]

Appreciate it, thanks 👍

[@debb481]

The hospital had really serious accreditation problems (and heads rolled because of that) for a number of good reasons. It appears to have been a mismanaged and toxic place for a few years, a place where employees were afraid to speak out and patients actually died because of the culture there. The kowalskis suffered because of that mismanagement and toxicity. I hope this jury sends a message. No matter what happens on appeal, a jury verdict against this hospital would send a message to this and other hospitals to keep standards high or potentially spend millions of dollars on lawyers while suffering damage to reputation.

[@marybryner5562]

Absolutely 100% right on! Best Comment ever!

[@cheriesullivan1494]

I’m hoping they vote for the defense. If not, they certainly don’t deserve 220 MILLION DOLLARS… they want to get rich.

[@shonabeggs4640]

​@@cheriesullivan1494Go see if an insurance would cover you for almost $300 Mill on a nurse's wage and throw you the lot because you nearly klld your daughter and someone who caught you out gave her a hug. Nobody on earth deserves that sort of money, and I hope that family of liars never sees a dime of it. I think mental maya would still manage her early walks/ runs getting jiggy with her bf and limo rides in a 5th of a dress and 4 inch heels just fine.

[@Yo77Yo11]

As a patient, I would steer clear of JHACH if I had another choice. Sad that such a toxic culture exists at a hospital.

[@keriissovery9566]

@@cheriesullivan1494Comments like yours make me sick. You didn’t want them to win because they would win money. Did you want them to have a trial and win nothing? What is the point of a lawsuit? They win nothing? What would the hospital’s punishment be? Use your brain and stop being jealous over money. This family lost their mother and wife. No money in the world will fix the pain they will forever have.

[@christinao522]

jury notes @ 7:36:37 & 10:14:20 🫠🤯🤣

[@Christy19627]

Thank you so much for posting the time stamps. You are a life saver!

[@Vivi_Ann]

Every major hospital and children’s hospital employs and has their OWN hospital photographers and if THE Dr orders photos by physician order only they get signed consent and if consent is given the photos are taken in an appropriate private windowless setting with the door closed and a nurse witness uncovering one extremity or part of the body at a time while the rest of the body remains covered. There is never a need to have a social worker expose a patient on her hospital bed.especially a child.

[@PennyxXxDreadful]

I have never heard of a hospital having dedicated photographers on standby.

[@NrsLisa]

WTH are you talking of? The only “stand-by” photographers in the hospital are private pay not employees of the hospital and they work with newborn babies for birth photos

[@sharonhoward884]

You don't know what you are talking about!! I thought I'd heard everything lol. That's absolutely incorrect & ridiculous.

[@sharonhoward884]

Also the social worker didn't "expose" a patient. The only article of clothing removed for pics was a t shirt. In the second set, not even the t shirt was off. It was merely lifted up a bit at the back and moved down a little at the front. Once again IT WAS DCF who requested photos. Take it up with them

[@Spokanefitnessgirl]

I thought same thing. Why not cover body and go section by section?

[@IamharmlesS]

The juror writing the notes with slang and profanity is extremely disrespectful. I doubt anyone there finds it amusing and they’re lucky the judge hasn’t corrected them about it.

[@QuitaGee617]

It’s a jury of your peers not a jury of your sophisticated peers. That person most likely doesn’t know any better. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@treacle8372]

Agreed , beyond disrespectful. Almost like its a joke , for sure this will bring problems with the appeals

[@AliceBowie]

I think they thought they were being cute, and it came off as pathetic. Oh, and they're peeved they've been there for 9 weeks!!! Getting minimum wage

[@marybeck8257]

​@@QuitaGee617😂😂

[@mkandnewyorkie]

100%. Trash.

[@colletterobbins1419]

Mr Shapiro fails to realise in his closing that this is not about Maya’s illnesses and/or causation. This is about what JHACH did to that family.

[@Yo77Yo11]

The patience and perseverance of the kowalskis is amazing. And their lawyers rock!!

[@SinkFla]

4:30:35 “If they had their own Dr. Tremp, talking about the freightway to college, which is what he was talking about before all this happened to her, if they had their own Dr. Tremp, where is he﹖” Robert Tremp Jr., a “vocational rehabilitation coach” who testified as to Maya Kowalski's "altered" potential as a wage-earner, IS NOT A DOCTOR as plaintiffs attorney Mr. Anderson states 2x in his closing argument.

[@shonabeggs4640]

Dopey Anderson doesn't let lies like that stop sheet rolling of his tongue. Such an embarrassment of a lawyer throughout this clown show.

[@catherineturley]

I lost faith in the jury the minute someone asked crazy doll lady if she could name the dark forces in the room with her 🤯

[@marybeck8257]

What?

[@valerierosel2399]

That was hilarious. I would have asked, what the dark forces looked like.

[@Mystical_Ketchup]

When is that?

[@marybeck8257]

@@valerierosel2399 when did this happen?

[@darlacummings12]

Who was crazy doll lady?

[@gemmad7726]

The juror writing the notes deserves compensation for being savage and bringing the comical factor to this case!! The judge reading out TY has made my week!!👏🏻😂😂

[@cindyherrera5410]

For sure! Definitely sense some frustration though.

[@treacle8372]

I found this very inappropriate and also a problem regarding appeals

[@gemmad7726]

@@treacle8372 100% agree (despite me finding it funny) The fact JHACH have completely denied any wrongdoing or liability is what’s messed this case up. Because it’s inevitable hospitals don’t anyways get it right with all the medical staff being over worked!! It’s a shame they took this approach, as this is what had made the jury frustrated in my opinion.

[@gemmad7726]

@@cindyherrera5410 Agree 100%

[@Snoozysusie]

I’m sorry, lay people rely on expertise of hospital staff, except when a parent is knowledgeable, questions what she knows is inaccurate, demands they follow up- I feel like we all need Beata with us on admission to any hospital

[@stevequinn9617]

I was ok until I watched the tear roll down Kyle's face as they were talking about his Mom & he was trying so hard to stay strong. Seeing that broke me.

[@rachelb4235]

So the defense argued a neurologist doesn't use ketamine. Well, no duh. Did no one listen to the trial? You have to be an anesthesiologist to use it. Sigh. Defense lost me trying to twist the truth.

[@beetleguise4922]

Pictures don't tell a full story of how someone is feeling or doing. We all know this.

[@cheriesullivan1494]

You’re right… but videos sure do. 😝 2 - 3 months after leaving the hospital did u not watch the few videos that were shown? Ummm majorly rough housing with Yorkie ALL OVER THE FLOOR, running around on knees etc around the room. Majorly rough housing with Kyle. Doing high karate kicks with Kyle. She’s all over this room in all those videos… that’s after she went home!! She’s reallllly giggling, laughing, just having the best time.

[@beetleguise4922]

@@cheriesullivan1494 do you know anything about crps?.... Did you listen to the testimony

[@shonabeggs4640]

​@@beetleguise4922 Funny how she couldn't do a thing on killer doses of ketamine & who knows what else that her mental mother gave her, but it worked right, I mean, the junked up youngest crps (allegedly) kid in the wheelchair was cured by her absent mother stuffing her full of sheet proved ketamine comas with risk of death worked. Then deleted herself hating her wet wipe grifting husband and no thought ( except maybe he would find her swinging with a needle in her arm) yay!. Gtfo

[@Blahblahblah-z9h]

@@beetleguise4922 Apparently, he or she didn't grasp the information. The expert thoroughly explained it during the testimony, and it's evident from what this person just said that they didn't even listen for a minute. If they did, they likely have a comprehension issue. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@pearlyqueen76]

Excellent closing Mr Shapiro. You did the hard working hospital proud. You used light and shade, were respectful and showed compassion towards Maya- I had shivers when you said she deserved to be happy. I’m in the UK and this is the first trial I’ve watched. I saw the Netflix doc and like many people with no agenda but critical thinking skills; it was obvious to me that the Kowalskis were dysfunctional. I think the closing statements summed up both sides. Anderson was like a drunk uncle at a wedding and then he was desperately trying to get the jurors calculators in deliberation. 💵 You however, made it clear and obvious how the caring and professional staff at JHACH had to put up with the sleazy lies and slandering from the plaintiffs. I hope Mr Anderson calling Cathy Beady a “mental case” is dealt with further.

[@aes1492]

Agree. Anderson's statement that Cathi had mental issues was shocking and no evidence was led to say so. In almost the same breath he attacked the hospital for saying beata had mental problems. Again thrre was no evidence 9f that offered.

[@dianewalton9624]

Hahaha drunk uncle! Perfectly said!

[@Shoonam]

Wonderful post! This trial needs jurors with critical thinking skills.

[@nataliecaltrider9201]

Right! And I also noticed he tried swaying the jurors by telling them “There’s A LOT of people watching this trial”. Innuendo is public opinion is for the Kowalski’s. I noticed Maya wiping away tears that were not there. And then at the end they all, including the attorneys, broke down crying. Sickening.

[@marybryner5562]

“… caring and professional staff” ??!!! Best joke on here ever! The large majority of the hospital staff who testified under oath were lying for the hospital because they want to keep their jobs

[@michelle7377]

Well whoever wrote that note from the jury is very disturbing!! Wow!

[@jegpad]

It'll be juror number 1, the smart arse ex-cop who has the other five jurors wrapped around his little finger. No surprise that Kowalski rejected his attorneys initial agreement with the defense to switch him out to alternate because of clear bias in his questions. The Judge is reaping the results of letting this Juror run the show.

[@ninamartinez5171]

​@@jegpadOH WOW TY

[@TheUniqueme1]

@@jegpadJuror #1 Didn’t write that last Note, for he had to KICK SAND & was EXCORIATED OUT earlier in the AM! Do the Math! They said there was 11 (Minus 1) ALTERNATIVE’S OF which 6 was Asked to stay!

[@dorothylarkin2937]

All communication is usually done by the jury foreperson! That’s the embarrassing part of this.

[@spalanki352]

​@@jegpadHe's still there. It was another juror who had to leave because of health issues.

[@nancygarrett0000]

hold on....Beata chose to do what she did to herself. NO ONE forced her....she had all the stuff she used at her disposal at HER house. This whole thing is a fiasco. How does the ENTIRE family get to sue the hospital? What? And the plaintiff lawyer up there CRYING???? WTF WTH???? I guess he wants to make SURE he wins to get HIS hands on the money!!!

[@darlacummings12]

Seriously? What happened 2 or 3 days after Beata killed herself?? Did you even watch the entire trial?

[@NrsLisa]

Absolutely… this trial is a joke.. if what happened was so severe we’d be watching a criminal case not a voluntary civil case

[@nancygarrett0000]

@@darlacummings12 been watching this fiasco since day UNO!!! Beata was a NURSE and was using her daughter to get the meds probably that SHE HERSELF liked. i feel HORRIBLE for the son Kyle..the husband who is a fire fighter shouldve had A BIT more knowledge on how Beata behaved. come on....The SON should get $ and no one else!

[@heatherann1560]

​@@nancygarrett0000Your comment doesn't mean you watched the whole trial that information you could get anywhere stick with the facts maybe actually watch the WHOLE trial because you are way off base

[@LMR-dt9tr]

Maya was in better health from when she entered the ER that October day with her father, sent there by Dr H. By Maya’s own admission in testimony.

[@paulineaquilina5328]

Why is everyone making a big deal about the jurors note seriously some of the STUFF people have said on these threads are way more disgusting and disrespectful some people just really need to live a little.

[@bobman929]

Yep

[@marybryner5562]

You’re so right … the Comments on this site that are derogatory against Maya, and Beata are utterly despicable and without an ounce of merit - none of them! Maya and her whole family were victimized by a Hospital - JOHNS HOPKINS ALL CHILDRENS HOSPITAL - just like we have found out - so many other children and their families have been.

[@crafty1929]

While I agree, court is held to a different standard than a KZbin comment section.

[@Yo77Yo11]

So true

[@perryjohnson8213]

So if she receives 199mil, She’ll still have pain and suffering??? Give me a giant break. These alleged medical malpractice civil cases are ridiculous sometimes. How much is enough. No amount of money will fix this situation. This kind of money truly does show people’s true colors, FACT!

[@chaos9495]

These massive lawsuits promote CHANGE! This hospital staff also influenced 100% of the DCF case but it wasn’t allowed in court which is terrible. How would you feel about a message being sent to these people if this child was yours?

[@rosieoneill2083]

This Anderson guy is so disrespectful! This "Sally Smith Character"? She is an MD. Also, Mr. Anderson, a Physician's Assistant is not the same as a nurse.

[@marybryner5562]

Sally Smith is sinister

[@NrsLisa]

NoPainHannah is shady AF

[@isabelallende4737]

Is it fair to throw millions of dollars at the Kowalski family when their daughter was brought back to health by ACH, and continues to be healthy? It's a no brainer

[@lorricannon189]

You're right it's a no brainer but I have a feeling these Jurors watched the Netflix Documentary that was so bias that they didn't want to hear the truth that was right in front of them. It didn't take me a week to see what was really going on here. I had spent months in the hospital when I was young & had to learn how to walk again after 2 spinal surgeries a week apart & bedridden for 3 or 4 months. Now after many other surgeries as a grown adult I deal with severe chronic pain & I also worked @ a hospital. I could see through the B.S. & how this all got started & soon was like a runaway train. This hospital saved Maya's life & the outrageous lies that we're told angered me. Her brother is the one I feel sorry for bc he was to young to know what was going on. You'd never would receive those high doses of the narcotics & all the different ones she was taking @ home be given here. The insane amount of IV ketamin infusions we're outrageous I'm surprised she's still alive. This hospital saved her life & it's a shame a lawsuit this big will probably be awarded based on lies! Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@Shoonam]

Thank you for seeing the facts!

[@stef1986100]

@@lorricannon189 the jurors can't even source documents... I doubt they will be able to use the evidence to inform their opinion. They probably will take the lazy sympathy route.

[@lorricannon189]

@@stef1986100 😂 Hi, I agree 💯 it doesn't look like they have the brightest group of Jurors overseeing this case. They probably watched the Netflix bias Documentary & had their minds made up before the Defense had a chance to speak! One person replied to me saying why do I care it's not coming out of my pocket! I replied no it's not but it's coming out of yours & as if Health insurance isn't expensive enough. I said wait & see what insurance companies will charge within the next year or so. Like anywhere here or there the tax payers get the bill! Take Care! Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@darlacummings12]

First of all she was much worse when she left the hospital, and the insurance was billed with the diagnosis of CRPS when the entire time they INSISTED it wasn't CRPS. That's the no brainer.

[@kimyoung2447]

Why did Maya walk out during defense closings? Could it be she did not want to be in there to listen, and have the cameras on her, when over an hour and a half of the truth came out in one fell swoop? And I can't help but feel that Kyle, listening to that, might be realizing that he was duped as well. Man, she was clinging to her rosaries for all to see for the past two days. Shapiro was amazing. He wrapped up the actual facts of this case and delivered them with a big beautiful bow! If after listening to his closing the jury does not get this right, then,IMO, there is something terribly wrong with the justice here. In the end,I believe we still have to respect them and their decision. My thoughts, prayers, and respect go out to the entire defense team and all of JHACH employees. To the employees: Thank you for everything you do everyday for sick and dying children. I, for one, greatly appreciate and respect all of you. May you find peace after being put through this nightmare. I just hope no one is swayed by this case to hesitate or not report suspicions of CA or MSBP. My biggest fear is the determint this case might cause to others in the future. Thank you for saving Maya's life. ❤️ JHACH 💪 💪 💪

[@nataliecaltrider9201]

Unreal how you stated every thought I was having! Thank you!

[@kimyoung2447]

​@nataliecaltrider9201 I think that is because a lot of people are expressing the same sentiment. Anyone who possesses a logical, non biased, analytical, non emotional, fact based, intuitive mind, and who has listened to and watched this trial from day one, should come to a similar conclusion. I wish I could interview those jurors after their verdict. And when they discover a lot of the evidence that wasn't allowed to be brought in, I would love to know their thoughts and reactions. For one, that Maya actually does wear gold jewelry. lol My prayers are with Kyle. His childhood was destroyed because of all of the deceit and familial psychiatric issues. I wish him only the best. If the jury absolutely had to award money, and they could only award it to one person, I would award it to him - and it would be the top amount.

[@annafiorentin7120]

She left because she knows she's guilty of being a money grab. I don't believe anything in the family said they just out for money.

[@kimyoung2447]

@@annafiorentin7120 Yup!

[@angivintilescu7856]

Yes , hospital saved Maya s life!

[@treacle8372]

I think the jury were so disrespectful for that note

[@treacle8372]

This will also I think be a problem for any appeal too ,so inappropriate

[@Estimator00]

Me too. He likes to irritate the defense

[@margiekunze5278]

What did it say

[@teemyoutube2066]

@@Estimator00 defense would be thrilled with the outcome if that wasn't a bluff

[@salliem424]

​@@margiekunze5278judge starts reading the note at 7:36:20

[@kimmwatkins9581]

Closing arguments .time 4:00:100 , 22 hours ago ,during a 10 Minute Break I noticed something that has no relevance to This Case Above the door behind the Judge I noticed the Beam, The wood brown wood not grey seems to be coming loose and the screws are exposed .. OH&S Kind regards

[@cheriesullivan1494]

ROFLMAO…. Like me, you really pay attention. 😉

[@cherylhaskell9830]

Thank you Law and Crime for covering trial. I think Children's closing argument presentation, exceptional - straight forward. Maya was victimized by her neurotic mother. Based on Maya's statements, she resented her mother working. Possibly, Maya feigned symptoms in a desperate attempt to get and keep her mother's attention. Tragic

[@pennyloafin4447]

Shed prob just fake being better then to go home and be with her.

[@marybryner5562]

Maya was “victimized” by Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital as well as Beata. Maya “resents” this Hospital for all the atrocities she suffered at the hands of this hospital and for tearing her Mother away from her, but most of all for her Mother taking her own life because of what Johns Hopkins Hospital did to Beata Kowalski.

[@lorricannon189]

Thank you to all who seen what I'd seen from the beginning! This hospital saved Maya's life & the problems started @ home behind closed doors! Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@NrsLisa]

@@lorricannon189you are 100% absolutely right.. I saw what you saw and I’m shocked more people couldn’t discern the manipulation Anderson displayed not only in the Netflix doc but also in the courtroom

[@lorricannon189]

@@NrsLisa Hi, I'm glad you agree! I worry that the Jurors probably watched the Documentary that was so bias that so many people bought into it. The Defense did a great job presenting their evidence based on facts that should have the Jury coming back agreeing with them. Yet I have a feeling they had their mind made up before they heard their side. Of all cases to be brought against a hospital it had to be one based on lies the problem started @ home behind closed doors before they ever went to John Hopkins! Take Care! Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@r49417]

🤔 Why is Maya leaving during defense closing arguments.. Can’t face all her lies🤷‍♀️.

[@trumplovingmomflorida329]

You must be one those nasty hospitalists. Heartless aholes. She left because dope Shapiro was talking crap about her mom AND wearing a purple tie. The very same color she said she hates because of wicked bety!

[@NrsLisa]

If you volunteer and beg to take your case to trial… you stay. You stay everyday. Maya comes and goes as she pleases. She thinks she’s the queen of the world

[@thejurydoctor6097]

@@NrsLisajurors historically don’t like that but I’m sure it was brought up in voir dire 😅

[@joannatomaszewska]

Why defense jurors come and leave as they say…. LOL

[@JHerrington-ue2ci]

Ever have your body on fire? That’s what CRPS feels like.

[@susannelogan1016]

Just an observation...of all days Maya isn't wearing her mother's necklace ..

[@cheriesullivan1494]

And not a suit… and her hair is not a mess and 😝 she has mascara on. She looked horrible all day, playing it up, until the jury sent a note to the judge asking for the number calculations. She had big smiles for them when they came back into the court room. Sickening…. Just sickening. I really believe Maya is a liar, manipulative, and also has mental instability! That’s what she lived with most her life, what she saw and was taught…

[@susannelogan1016]

the first thing i noticed was her sleeveless outfit n appearance, and the female attorney lent over and tucked her bra strap in... maybe they have different dress codes... the previous day Maya at times was clutching Rosary beads looped around her hand and the crucifix hanging down, very noticeable when drinking , as well as when she wasn't being quickly 'distracted' she was shallow breathing throughout... could be anxiety but no other signs of anxiety.... the Dad and herself were a lil too cosy with the jurors... I watched the Netflix doco which impo left me with too many red flags and very one sided... which then led me to follow the Trial. Sadly, I feel it was more so the conditioning of her Mother and her Mother had a deep seeded undiagnosed condition/s that quite a few people have mentioned.... I believe there was already troubles with the marriage before Maya's JH admission and no one sensitively addressed this... Beata ended up losing being in 'control' of everything and the only control she had left was having the last say in tragically ending her life... she sadly has left a trauma on her family to bear, even if not sound in mind, but she had intentions to carry out and not an impulsive act... i feel for Maya's brother whom will always remain in the shadows of his sister. I do wish the judge let Beata hug her daughter away from the cameras and with conditions. Beata's death has also made her family alot of money already and impo has lead to seeking more attention and obscene amounts of money, untruths and more opportunities than ever before. Lastly is a tragedy that Jack has an older daughter and on his first borns ` daughter's wedding day'... Beata and Maya don't attend... instead go to Mexico for a Ketamine Coma and Jack is then pulled away from after the wedding and connecting to his first-born daughter's celebrations and family... his having to fly out to Beata and Maya in Mexico... ironically Beata doesn't even mention Jacks older daughter... not in her third person notes that Beata journals whilst in Mexico, doesn't even mention her and Maya couldn't attend the Wedding... another possible reason why Beata has Jack on the next plane out and feeding the need to place all the attention and illness onto Jacks second daughter - Maya. Something not right there. These are just my personal opinion's only.... POV... i'll leave it at that...@@cheriesullivan1494

[@Sead671]

Her dress could be covering it.

[@carlabraenne3469]

The titanic song is so appropriate. The family should make a memory video with this song about thier mom to cherish

[@truthseeker1649]

Wow! I've been on the Charles Alderson Hitman case & lost track of this one. But STILL going??

[@Lynds77]

24:23 what an absolute top tier incredible judge ❤❤❤. Mrs. Judge and family, thank you for sharing your incredible husband with the world. ❤❤ We appreciate you as much as we appreciate the court. Truly wonderful, upstanding gent! We need judges like this in Canada 🇨🇦 Lawyer - Mr. Anderson and Team, you are all amazing rock stars, and anyone would be lucky to have you working for them. You have given your all! ❤❤❤❤

[@cheriesullivan1494]

R u serious?? Mr Anderson was a train wreck. I’d be embarrassed if he was my attorney.

[@Yo77Yo11]

@Lynds77 - 1000% agree!!

[@NrsLisa]

Whitney crying for jury sympathy = beyond pathetic. inauthentic. Cringe.

[@NrsLisa]

@@jacks6632the waterworks start around 8:35:10

[@tootsie007]

We all cried. What he said was heartbreaking and true.

[@drooliab]

It's very concerning that this case has been left in the hands of jurors like the one(s) writing these notes. Very disheartening.

[@joanc5441]

There appear to be no “peers” of the doctors, nurses, social workers who dedicate their lives to saving others and now stand wrongly accused.

[@isabelallende4737]

I agree! Most comments here are based on emotion@@joanc5441

[@bernardlowe5433]

@@joanc5441 There was a nurse as an alternate. Based on her questions and facial expressions, she was even more anti-hospital than other jurors, because it was easier for her to see hospital's lies and outrageous behavior.

[@NickiNickiNineDoor]

@@joanc5441you obviously haven’t been watching this trial. There is at least one juror with advanced medical knowledge.

[@heatherann1560]

​@jacks6632 No that was what was said by others in the courtroom No one gave away who the jurors are just their facial expressions reactions ect.

[@marybryner5562]

Mr. Anderson … Mr. Whitney … Bravo! Your dedication to this Case, your extremely hard work and tenacity, your integrity in how you tried this Case is commendable. You took on a Hospital and were nothing short of brilliant in all of your arguments and cross examinations, revealing the TRUTH of what really went on at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.

[@aes1492]

Respected Mr Whitney throughout until he produced tears in the closing as a way to emotionally manipulate the jury. Unprofessional snd unnecessary.

[@mandykelley4883]

They want that money badly.

[@darlacummings12]

🎯

[@Yo77Yo11]

@marybryner5562. Agree!!

[@christinao522]

Beginning to think Kyle is the only innocent victim here…

[@river8760]

Because he is!

[@sharonhoward884]

You are SO right! Maya is a devious, manipulative, narcissist and I'd go as far as to say bordering sociopathy. She sat under oath & tried to accuse an imaginary doctor of CSA & told the jury the hospital padre told her "something bad he did in his past" as the reason she refused to see him anymore then accused the hospital of withholding her right to practise her faith. My God she is something else.

[@cheriesullivan1494]

@@sharonhoward884ROFLMAO IKR!! To many people saw the movie and are now biased. People need to watch every second of that trial like I did! People say yea I watched it only for me to find out, they only watched a few hrs of their picking. Like Maya, Jack, Kyle, Bedy and Smiths testimony. Unbelievable how people r. I’m reading comments on FB. I’m laughing my butt off. So many comments are incredibly wrong!! They either didn’t listen, heard it from someone else, or are simply can’t understand. To much false info at FB groups.

[@heatherann1560]

​@@cheriesullivan1494It wasn't a movie it was a Documentary And I have Never seen it only watched the trial since day 1 I never even heard of this until it went to trial and from what I have seen in the trial I am 100% in favor of yhe family. I do plan on watching the Documentary after the verdict though

[@LMR-dt9tr]

Kyle has been manipulated by dad & sister. Looks like he stands by them now, by his facial expressions toward the defense. Hopefully, he will be blessed with a functional wife and in-laws, to help open his eyes to the dysfunctional family dynamics. Or get into therapy now and start the process soon. Note: it was in evidence that some of Maya’s drs noted of a questionable family dynamic.

[@debbiefranklin9825]

Victory for the Kowloski family 🎉🎉🎉🎉 they win hugely!

[@RYFM]

Just reminding you people in the chat THE HOSPITAL DIDN'T BELIEVE MAYA WAS SICK EVEN THO SHE WAS DIAGNOSED!!!!!!!!!!! SHE KEPT HER AWAY FROM HER FAMILY FOR NOTHING

[@luckycharm1oak]

pretty sure their claim is she was detoxed. so not for nothing. they did try to transfer someplace that specialized in treatment. so that says they validated illness. IF SHE'D STAYED ON DRUGS, DO YOU THINK SHE WOULD'VE GOTTEN BETTER? I'M THOROUGHLY CONVINCED SHE'D BE DEAD. so her life was saved. sad though that the mom killed herself and died in the process of her child being rescued. mental illness is serious stuff.😢

[@heatherann1560]

These people in the comments attacking this poor family are sick and probably more Cathy Beady's and Sally Smiths judging and destroying families

[@luckycharm1oak]

@@heatherann1560 who's attacking? I haven't really read a lot of comments so I don't know for sure. but I do know I'm not attacking anyone. the evidence is what it is.

[@Natasha_-_]

She was only diagnosed with a psychological illness...She was still faking it and the diagnosis did not and would not have caused all of those lesions unless she did them to herself!

[@downunder00]

Maya would be fine until her mother showed up and acted sick. I believe she is faking. She could have fobromyalgia migraines tons of things. So to me it looks like she faked it.

[@alicja4484]

I am watching this trial from Poland and being a little older than Beata many memories came back. I was about Maya's age when I spent a few weeks in a Polish hospital ...very , very sick. Yes , the nurses where hugging me , they were holding my hand before I fell asleep and I loved it ,I needed it as a child. My Parents were thankful for that as well. The nurses and doctors were so dedicated despite the fact that their salaries were comparable to for example teacher's salaries. They saved my life . I also feel that the Florida hospital saved Maya's life.

[@pennyloafin4447]

Maya didn't get treated like you did is the big issue here. 🤣

[@michellesimpsons356]

I disagree because your mother was probably nearby and allowed to see you.

[@alicja4484]

@@pennyloafin4447 Well, I disagree . I think many of the nurses and doctors tried to help Maya but the Kowalski family is now unfortunately trying to turn it against them.

[@alicja4484]

@@michellesimpsons356 No , my Parents had no access to my hospital room ( general law at the time) .

[@boomds5602]

They didn’t save her life, they made sure it would be miserable for the rest of her life

[@coochilalab9289]

Praying for Maya and family to win. Its time for these hospital to stop playing God!

[@clc7763]

Did they let all the smart jurors go

[@joanc5441]

Are there any smart jurors in Florida? Florida man and Florida woman is a thing for a reason.

[@clc7763]

@@joanc5441 I don't know what you are talking about

[@lovesamc]

@@clc7763Google Florida man or Florida woman, and then buckle up cause you’re in for a wild ride.

[@bobman929]

Maybe the other juror's can't see or change someone's question. So that one woman is making them all look bad. The other question during the trial have been competent and respectful.

[@TheUniqueme1]

⁠Who is He???? Juror #1 Got the ROYAL 🥾 🥾 at the BEGINNING of todays Opening! What are you talking about??? He got Escorted out by the court Sheriff, asked To hand over any documents that he had! And was given the OPTION to leave his number for His FORMER jury Members to contact him AFTER the HEARING/TRIAL is OVER if they so Chose to! PERIOD! DOT THE END!

[@lizabelaart]

What an amazing judge!💜

[@heatherann1560]

I agree I didn't care for him at the beginning but I have really warmed up to him

[@1Life2Live007]

The hospital definitely didn’t like being questioned and or challenged. Heck just look at each one of their behaviors on the witness stand! That speaks volumes! I’d be terrified if I was a young girl alone taken away from my mommy and daddy and brother and everyone else! Alone with most of these ladies! Especially if their telling me I’m a liar!!! And my mommy is a horrible person! Ahhhhh Gosh what he said about Beata Pushing her daughter out of the way from getting hit by a car. Knowing she’ll be hit. That hits hard. It’s so true. AND if Beata wanted to hurt or anything with her child she could’ve kept her home and did whatever. But she didn’t. She TRIED! The hospital messed up everything Mr Anderson did great. It’s 8pm and I’m trying to finish this before I see what the verdict is. If their done. I pray that Maya and her whole family get justice. This hospital knew they screwed up. That’s why defense held out some important crap and was hoping nobody would catch it. Thank God for that last witness! He was awesome and I would go to his hospital if it was in my area. Bryan hospital! I bet that place would have taken care of Maya and her mother. Such a shame! RIP Beata! So sorry this happened to you and your baby girl. 😢 So if the verdict is guilty nobody goes to jail. The only thing that does happen is they have to pay. 💰 Great job Mr Whitney! You did so good. 😢 Thank you for expressing your heart. Thank you to you and your team for helping this family.

[@cat-qd8wi]

I spent months in the hospital when I was Maya's age due to kidney disease. I couldn't wait for my parents to visit me each day after work. I cannot imagine feeling I had lost their support during that time

[@grilledsleaze]

It speaks volumes when the joint commission report directly reflects the actions and attitudes of the collection of JH staff we’ve heard in this trial

[@ninamartinez5171]

​@@grilledsleazeThere is 53 Lawsuits since 2012 it's safe to say that JHH has a lot of problems?

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

@@ninamartinez5171 Or lots of incredibly misguided people like the Kolwalskis telling Johns Hopkins that their mission and relentless efforts are often thankless. And guess who that harms? It harms people to take their children in for REAL disorders, like cancer treatment, who are fighting literally for their lives. The fact that JHACH has to spend millions on fighting baseless suits like this one, takes real money away from children who are facing real suffering and their families. Tragically, Maya's physical condition improved dramatically after her mother was tragically gone.

[@grilledsleaze]

@@ninamartinez5171 about the safest thing you could say lol

[@river8760]

If that note is written by the foreperson, that is pretty disturbing.

[@TheUniqueme1]

@driver8760 ​​⁠Juror #1 Got the ROYAL 🥾 🥾 at the BEGINNING of todays Opening! He got Escorted out by the court Sheriff, asked To hand over any documents that he had! And was given the OPTION to leave his number for His FORMER jury Members to contact him AFTER the HEARING/TRIAL is OVER if they so Chose to! PERIOD! DOT THE END!

[@sarahwolf6130]

​@@TheUniqueme1 I'm not sure what you were watching/listening to, but that is 100% false. Juror #1 is still present and deliberating.

[@TheUniqueme1]

@@sarahwolf6130 Sarah your DEFINITELY Loss in the CLOUDS! Did you login during the Middle of yesterday Trail??? CLEARLY your 💯 % OFF! Please go back & do Your RESEARCH, Then come back & Apologize for your actions and MISTAKE to EVERYONE that have Posted Thus FAR! I’ll Be waiting! Bye for now! 👋 👋 ✌️

[@BeHappy-yh5or]

@@sarahwolf6130it’s a troll Sarah. Just block it.

[@cathbooth1980]

@@TheUniqueme1misinformation 🫤

[@dianamaldonado7285]

The jury notes were just embarrassing 😮

[@pearlyqueen76]

I feel the Judge needs to take some responsibility for this. His jovial informal vibe has back fired.

[@shonabeggs4640]

​@pearlyqueen76 I agree, he courted this lack of respect from them.

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

oh yeah? well then, you tell us how you find stuff on a computer you've never seen before because either you grew up in the era of smartphones, or you were already too old to learn new tricks when pcs became fashionable.

[@Mystical_Ketchup]

Everybody on here is complaining about the notes. What about them? I don't seem to understand.

[@Erica_TN]

Ain't enough money to get gas? Rude and trash. @@Silly.Old.Sisyphus

[@luckycharm1oak]

They're asking for the jury to see that they detoxed a CHILD who was made dependent on DRUGS. This plaintiff lawyer's off his rocker. And to keep saying "freaking" while talking to the jury? Wth

[@NrsLisa]

Kowalskis & team are all literally off their rockers. Maya is a sociopath in the works. So manipulative trying to get the jury and world to believe JHH committed a crime. This is a freaking voluntary civil case.

[@cheriesullivan1494]

Ikr!! This was a circus! I’m afraid the jury isn’t going to vote for the defense which IS the right thing to do. Beata was seriously mentally ill. I was a nurse, I’ve seen crap like Beata and Maya. Maya was severely craving and crying out for attention from her mom. I feel sorry for Kyle, hopefully he sees the lies with Maya! Jack is completely wish washy… he doesn’t stand up for the truth, he gets walked on. His testimony and voice recordings are unreal!! He’s actually against Beata, doesn’t believe Maya, yet he sits in this court room, just to become rich! I’m appalled at this family and attorneys. Attorneys saw this as there get rich scheme too.

[@shonabeggs4640]

All 3 of you commenting above are spot on. I hope they never see a dime of this ludicrous payout. Kyle - the only victim should have been removed from the family when mental Maya was made a ward of court. That poor boy will never lead a normal life. He was lucky to even be an afterthought in Mrs MBP's deletion notes. They should be praising the hospital for saving that deranged boat's life. Appeal will hopefully bring more evidence of just what she's been getting up to, and maybe when the bf realises there's no dough forthcoming, he will sell his story.

[@TheUniqueme1]

JUROR DISMISSED FROM 'TAKE CARE OF MAYA' TRIAL The judge dismissed a juror before closing arguments, and outside the presence of the jury had stern words for the attorneys. (11/6/23) MORE

[@ritayammouni2803]

Because he had an emergency issue (medical)

[@baltmv]

Second note at 9:47:10

[@hazeleyest9562]

Thanks!!

[@darlacummings12]

Thank you so much.

[@river8760]

Thanks!

[@joaosoares-rr5mj]

10:05:00 i just love that at this point it is very clear that the jury aready sided with maya, and are now ust making the math, and the defense knows it, you an see in their butts faces that they know they lost, SUCK THAT!

[@katego370]

This comment section is really disturbing...

[@SinkFla]

I pray the jury sees right through Mr. Anderson’s skewed version of events-Beata Kowalski had given up on Maya, believed she was terminal with no other option, the hospital, Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, saved Maya’s life and to now prey on their associates who from all the evidence i’ve seen have done nothing accused of, And it was never about ’going after’ Beata Kowalski, any parent who believed that almost killing her daughter needs to take a step back-the hospital didn’t make the court order, it’s the JUDGE, so, why is it that Mr, Anderson refused to acknowledge that﹖ I believe that putting forth a dishonest dialogue in a documentary, all by lying, and Maya is now a ‘celebrity’ based on these lies, and most of these viewers just believed what she said, not caring to verify if she was being honest, nor even acknowledge her lies on the stand, so, it is disturbing to watch these events unfold as they have.

[@IKINCI-p7g]

Doesnt look good for Kowalski. They wont get $$$$$$.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Moral victory matters too.

[@sandtats]

What? First note was in reference to chart stating amounts to be awarded to Maya based on predictable lifetime earnings.

[@joannequigley154]

No that isn’t what they were asking for. They were saying that the witness and the plaintiff lawyer Whitley said there was evidence about that but the judge never allowed it in like Mr Anderson said it was only a portion of it. That is why they have to read it back and it still isn’t going to be there so they both lied to the jurors

[@sandtats]

No. I'm speaking about the first question, not the last. @@joannequigley154

[@sundaychamberlain228]

We'll see I think they will see $$$$$$$ lots

[@theporkyyorkie8077]

I hope the hospital wins. That poor girl has been through a lot but they have gotten her on the right path.

[@victoriapalos6058]

Whole heartedly disagree. I hope the hospital is found guilty and changes their protocols because of what has happened to numerous families at the hands of Dr Smith and their protocols.

[@judyfreece3011]

I agree

[@darlacummings12]

​@@victoriapalos6058🎯

[@Jade_902]

😂 omg stop @theporky

[@therapyrf]

Agreed

[@BallerinaKristina]

Justice for Maya and her family. Their loss is incalculable. What that hospital put them through is despicable. May everyone responsible for her care there be held accountable.

[@marybryner5562]

So perfectly said - Lovely Comment that thousands of people across America and beyond, echo. ❤️

[@elifaltn3103]

I can’t imagine any parents going through what they did go through. These people need to make sure family’s are together with health conditions but hospital was trying to separate families and kids they can’t bring it up but this hospital did that to so many families I hope they will pay for what they did all these families 🙏

[@jessicapollan4039]

The hospital was trying to save Maya's life, which they did. She would have ended up like Gypsy Blanchard

[@ElleR3416]

@@jessicapollan4039 With MSbP the parent is super attention seeking, is around the child all the time, always the one and only to take them to doctor’s appts, making the child think they are sick, getting them legitimately sick from their actions, meds given to them etc. as in the case of Gypsy Rose. Yet, the same trolls chirping that it’s MSbP, that the Mother is mentally ill etc. say Maya is a liar and just wanted attention from her Mother because she worked too much! So what is it???? It can’t be both! MSbP has nothing to do with the poor child being manipulated!! Was the mother working too much or always there??? Can’t be both!! Lol 🤷‍♀️ Beata did not have MSbP and was not making her child sick. So no, Maya would not have ended up like Gypsy Rose. Such a false equivalency to try and fit your terrible narrative, yet....... zero actual evidence was shown in this trial to prove MSbP but........ you do you, mental health expert!!! 🤦‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♀️

[@Lewisiaable]

It’s disgusting what the hospital did to this family. My heart goes out to them because all these years and they are still going through it by sitting in that court room listening to the crap they are saying about their mother. I pray that they drain every dollar out of the hospital. As for the hospital I hope they learn a lesson from this so that no other family go through this

[@dorothylarkin2937]

I couldn’t watch live today. What was in the note from the jury?

[@sandtats]

Two notes. You have to rewind! Yikes.

[@sandtats]

7:36:20

[@lorricannon189]

I find the Jury questionnaire is outrageous! Wow, children need affection when parents aren't there & they're having a bad day. Now children won't get what they need bc of these outrageous claims. No wonder Maya wouldn't sit through the whole trial instead watch it in a back room bc it would be hard to face the Nurses & others who helped you & we're kind to you in the hospital & now you're throwing them under the bus for money! Some day God forbid you're actually sick hopefully there will will be a hospital who wants to deal with you! You know this is all based on a lie! Not everyone is blinded by you're great acting skills & they actually believe you're disrespectful claims ruining peoples careers & this hospital. You're fine & have always been fine you'll be just fine in the future. You're Mother was ill & although you wanted more attention from you're Mother just didn't know you're choice would lead you down this road & didn't know how to stop it. You're Mother was an adult & a Nurse you we're the child she had blinders on instead of being subjective & she doesn't blame you for her taking her life. I hope you think of the truly sick children in the hospital fighting for their life's! Money built on lies Karma will catch up to you! I hope you change the pity me path you've learned for years & do some good things for those less fortunate. Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@nataliecaltrider9201]

Very well said!!!!

[@FifiR3]

Beware of karma yourself there - being so firm in your judgement of another. Just sayin

[@darlacummings12]

You're unbelievable.

[@cheriesullivan1494]

AMEN!!!! Tyvm! I’ve been saying the same thing… along with voicing out about most of it. Maya is mentally ill as well, not being mean, just truthful

[@lorricannon189]

@@cheriesullivan1494 Hi, I agree 💯! 😊 It's nice to see not everyone has blinders on. I've made so many comments shocked @ how many people bought this story hook, line & sinker! Surprised they couldn't see what was really going on. Take Care! Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@marybryner5562]

Shapiro’s Closing is utterly sickening 🤢 He should have seriously re-thought his line that he repeated over and over again … Quote: “This is who Johns Hopkins is” As he shows the photos of countless staff members who played a part in Maya Kowalski’s Nightmare at Johns Hopkins All Childrens Hosptial! Thanks Shapiro … for reminding the Jury of so many hospital employees who were coached by YOU and to lie under oath for the hospital!

[@cindyherrera5410]

The ‘gotta leave early’ juror volunteering to stay an extra day tomorrow tells me they’re pretty close to verdicts. If this part isn’t over when they leave tomorrow, I say they sleep on final vote Weds night & vote is Thurs morning. Punitive done by Fri afternoon, at the latest.

[@OwnYourTruth222]

​@@diva63😂😂 some people just get too involved.

[@AliceBowie]

They already have a verdict, they're just deliberating over how much to award her. Great news for Maya, although they should give her the max because the hospital will appeal and finally pay a lesser amount. All I know is, no one who cares about their children will ever go to that hospital again.

[@cindyherrera5410]

@@AliceBowiemy feeling (because it’s what I’d do in this situation) is they went through all the individual claims immediately & answered the first question about liability to see where there was consensus in order to get that part out of the way, then will move on to damages on the agreed liability verdicts. After that, they’ll deliberate on any disagreements they may have on liability. On the particular issue inquired about, there is definitely an agreement to award something. No doubt about it. The only question I have is have they already agreed on all claims? My gut says most (maybe all) liability questions have been agreed on, and although it’s not likely they’re all in favor of the family, as you said - they’re getting damages figured out…

[@kimberleeturner8475]

They are just trying to figure out how much to give and they are just as happy to get this o error with. 91/2 weeks and I don't think there is no millions in it for them.

[@ninamartinez5171]

​@@AliceBowieAmen to that. At least not until JHH gets there crap together.

[@lorricannon189]

The Attorney for the plaintiffs shouldn't have been allowed to tell the Jurors to go straight to questions:3, 5, 6 & 8 & find them guilty & award the damages. Why bother having the Judge tell them to read each question & deside Guilty or Not Guilty & move onto the next question like every other Jury is told to do? Now all they will do if they are leaning towards the plaintiffs is not really read the other questions as they are required to do. Not surprised the Attorney for the plaintiffs had a calculator he probably added up how much he'll pocket! I wish they awarded to pay the Attorneys fee & Court costs & that's it. Only in the 🇺🇸 would a Jury be allowed to award outrageous amounts of money to anyone. If you think Health Insurance is expensive now wait & see how much you'll probably pay within a year! 😢 Ontario, 🇨🇦

[@stef1986100]

The defendants should have spent more time questioning damages and getting their own experts in. Honestly 220 million is a lot of money and the liability just isn't there.

[@amci325]

I think he meant in context of what his final words were focusing on. At least that’s how I interpreted it? Not sure…

[@katego370]

The plaintiffs are allowed to do this because that's what every plaintiff lawyer does, that's normal. Defense lawyers usually do this too but this defense team knew it wouldn't help them in this case. There's no Guilty/Not Guilty, only liability - which is essentially just legal responsibility. Plaintiff lawyers on contingency usually take somewhere between 25%-45% before costs are taken out. Yep, that's a lot and it's not much different in Canada.

[@stef1986100]

@@katego370 The plantiffs were being deceptive and misrepresenting facts in evidence though which they aren't allowed to do. For example, Anderson kept saying that the hospital kept Maya from her family. Even the Judge sustained the objection during closing because that isn't factoring in the court order which limited contact with her mum. They also should have read the jury instructions which said the hospital isn't liable for damages under the court order etc... They clearly didn't factor this in. There were parameters around what the hospital could be liable for and the jury didn't sound as though they considered any of that. Honestly, I would appeal the if I were the hospital and based on the evidence they will likely win and the damages be lessened or judgement completely overturned.

[@tado6725]

Sorry for lost (Beata death)....but poor girl she was sick from all the drugs she was taking! I'm happy she is doing well!...Thanks to JH Hosp!

[@JHerrington-ue2ci]

Uh no that’s not why she was sick. My child has CRPS too it’s horrific and unless you suffer from it you have no idea. Her mom did what she could to help her child. Oh and my son does Ketamine infusions and it’s been a life changer.

[@spalanki352]

​@JHerrington-ue2ci Uh, yes, she was. I doubt your child ever had even close to all those drugs in their system at once.

[@bernardlowe5433]

The hospital has list of outrageous conducts, including forgetting a needle in a baby's heart. Those victims who survived the hospital are doing well despite the hospital, not because of it.

[@tado6725]

@@JHerrington-ue2ci I’m not saying she doesn’t have CRPS! Unfortunately I know very well what CRPS and ketamine is! However when I look at list of meds this poor tiny child was taking make me angry and ill:( She was experiencing classic withdrawal symptoms! Reading emails from Mexico (which Beats wrote on behalf of Maya) make me think that Beata, poor lady had serious, undiagnosed psychiatric problems:( Overall tragic, very tragic story:(

[@tado6725]

@@spalanki352 That is exactly what I meant!

[@jessicaadams1246]

Moment of truth hopefully

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

4:46:20 Anderson calls the hospital "a very bad place". He doesn't mention that the hospital saved Maya's life. i call Anderson "a very bad man".

[@Natasha_-_]

💯

[@Yo77Yo11]

You are 100% wrong.

[@Natasha_-_]

@@Yo77Yo11 If he or she or they was wrong, why was Maya getting significantly BETTER once she was kept at the hospital? Also with hardly any pain meds as well and be diagnosed with a psychological pain disorder? The evidence doesn't lie!

[@cyndilagasse991]

defense couldn't handle turning an excel file into a pdf

[@mishhind3549]

I felt badly for Anderson during his closing. Shapiro dog walked him and he just fumbled the football. Didn't dispute any of Shapiros fact based, brilliantly, laid-out closing. If one removes the "feelings' and stays focused on the law, defense won this case on most topics. JH most egregious act was the complete lack of caring about Beata's mental health. They didn't care. These are physicians and she told them she was suicidal. A gross act and morally reprehensible. The primary doctors (snake oil) are responsible for what happened to Maya. They convinced Beata her daughter had CRPS and must act on their dangerous treatments. They fooled her when she was in such a fragile state. JH indeed saved Maya's life, but they also caused harm, causing the death of her mother. In terms of the other outstanding allegations I think plaintiffs loose by law.

[@jessicapollan4039]

They offer her therapy and she refused

[@OwnYourTruth222]

You make a fair assessment but I do disagree on one point. Maya was the hospitals patient not beata. Jack knew his wife was suicidal when he thought she took the guuun. They were heading to bankruptcy and their marriage was in crisis. It was jacks responsibility to care for his wife's health and should have had the baker act enforced. The hospital are not responsible for beatas act on herself.

[@joanc5441]

JHACH is a children’s hospital. They do NOT treat adults.

[@mishhind3549]

@@joanc5441 Try reading why using that excuse is also reprehensible. No worries we only save kids! Absurd and appalling. You’d also let her die.

[@lisadawn5542]

Agreed. No matter where you come down on this case, Shapiro’s closing was masterful. Anderson bumps around like a pinball machine.

[@spalanki352]

In 10 years or so, when Kyle is older, I think he will realise how disturbed this family is and come out and share his story. He was so small and is still so young so he only knows what Maya and his dad has told him and you don't really reflect on things that happened as a child until later in life. He is the only true victim and I really feel sad for him.

[@river8760]

I’m heartbroken for Kyle. He is so depressed and seems so lost. He has no stability and needs to get away from the toxicity of his family. He’s had no therapy and no support throughout all of this and the focus has always been on Maya. I hope he will get the help he needs in life and experience happiness. He deserves that so much.

[@BeHappy-yh5or]

Kyle knows the truth.

[@spalanki352]

​@@river8760Exactly! Really heartbreaking.

[@jillchapman6239]

Wow Dr. do you say?

[@marybryner5562]

Kyle Kowalski is one of 4 Kowalskis who were victimized by JHACH, and one of many others who have lawsuits against this hospital!!

[@jonibravo99]

Im sorry but its unbelievable that a case of this magnitude are left in the hands of people with this level of intellect. Cant even find a folder/file on a computer? Are you serious? And you expect these knuckleheads to grasp what these physicians/experts testified to? And whats up with using profanity/slang in a formal setting?. American justice system are flawed indeed.

[@Kopihue]

Juestice for Maya and her family.

[@joanc5441]

Justice would be 0 for grifters.

[@Kopihue]

@@joanc5441 go find a life u hater

[@joaosoares-rr5mj]

24:40 he even got emotional

[@cindilarper]

The judges "hairfluff" should get a life sentence imo 😂😂😂

[@StephaniePierce-r8y]

I wonder how the alternates are chosen. A drawing of names?

[@diannedocherty3816]

The plaintiffs was relying on the jury to just fork over millions when they knew specifically what the verdict forms were going to entail. Whitney tried to give an emotional speech with little substance to help the jurors calculate. If it’s 300 a day for life, or is 100 a day, not even 1000 a day is enough. The juror that wrote that note is not wrong, but man the tone was one of exasperation.

[@treasurz1]

Whitney was saying $100 an hour, not per day. Such a farce

[@joanc5441]

$100/$300 per hour! 15 hrs/day for mqyq, 8 hr/day for Kyle.

[@christinao522]

24 hrs per day for Maya, 0 hrs for Kyle

[@stef1986100]

It is safe to say they aren't getting 220 million. The hospital will appeal it until the Kowalskis give up because they cannot afford to maintain a lengthy lawsuit. There is very little substance in the plantiff's claims.

[@joanc5441]

I believe you meant Maya lawyers (plaintiffs) expect the jury to hand them several hundred million dollars. Praying for justice for the hospital and doctors who saved that thankless girl’s life.

[@LMR-dt9tr]

7:22 Attorneys & Judge discuss the legality of the large sum of damages, that the Planiff attorneys will present to jurors.

[@shonabeggs4640]

I suspect the appeal papers are already in motion.

[@Gnoma2345]

Doesn't look good for defense.

[@ladybug947]

Shapiro looked defeated

[@ninamartinez5171]

​@@ladybug947What are you watching he nailed it today Jesus Christ are you kidding me i said he was holding out 😢

[@boomds5602]

@@ninamartinez5171did you even watch the trial? The jury were all crying during the plaintiffs closing, they literally asked for the file to decide how much money to give. Pay attention if you are going to comment

[@marybryner5562]

Shapiro WAS defeated. The entire Defence team was. Why? Because the lied, they twisted the truth, they double talked and they hid crucial information … until the very end of this trial yesterday when they were caught in this despicable coverup of Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.

[@perryjohnson8213]

Sadly, it’s all about the $$. Obviously Maya has been through a lot in her very young years of life so far. My humble opinion though, how much money is enough in a case like this. People are always so afraid to touch this question but it’s reality. How much money does Maya and her family really need. 1mil, 5 mil, 10 or 20?? Anything north of 10 million is kind of crazy I think and I know, nobody cares what I think and I don’t really care. I’m just making my point. If this isn’t all about the mighty dollar then the family should donate 80% of the award $$ to their charity of choice. If they did that, id be stunned but it won’t.

[@katego370]

This lawsuit was initiated when Maya was 12. I don't know if you've ever tried to get a teenager to comply to an extremely laborious and intense program of lies for 5 years while they're changing their style every few months but I promise you, you can't do that _this_ effectively. Additionally, if it was about the money, they would've settled. A 9 week trial, 5 years of litigation, numerous appeals, and another number of years of post-trial appeals is _extremely_ expensive. Plaintiff lawyers on contingency take anywhere between 25%-45%, usually _before_ costs and fees are taken out. A settlement cuts short on time, hatemail and criticism, preserves your privacy, saves you enormous amounts of stress and worry, and also eliminates appeals. The settlement amount would've been a lot lower and on far fewer counts, but it still would've been the preferred option if money was their motivation. They're lucky if they ever see 50% of the final verdict amount. The only reason anyone would take a case like this against a party like JHACH to trial in such a public way is because they want the world to know just how bad they've been harmed by this hospital.

[@violasdaughter]

My comment has to do with the mods. I won't name names. I was timed out yesterday for alledgely " attacking " some one verbally, really? OMG!! It was uncalled for & unfair. You should see some of the rude & harsh things being said.

[@darlacummings12]

😂

[@catherinebrady2257]

I hope the hospital wins

[@richieesco]

This is classic munchowsen by proxy. The mom was recording and filming her child’s “experience” from day one. The mom is getting attention. Maya is too. She thinks she knows better than all doctors. Ketamine is not a fail safe drug. There are severe side effects. Anyone who has done it recreationally knows how strong a 100-200 mg/cc dose of ketamine esp through IV. That’s insane. The footage of Maya in John Hopkins hospital, does it look like she’s suffering and in agony? Now she’s cured all of a sudden also. No. This verdict will come back on appeal 100%. People don’t kill themselves like mayas mom unless they are ridden with extreme guilt. This is a disgrace. I feel bad for Maya and the dad. The mom was a piece of garbage

[@applespace150]

she is not cured,you don't even get the basic right,shame on you

[@chrisleclerc5254]

Defense closing made a couple of decent points, but overall smoke and mirror tactic is not lost on me (if I'm on the jury). And just another example of the culture...not nice! Own your bad acts, and admit your wrongs. THEN defend on the points you think are still valid.

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

7:35:37 jury questions first brought up

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

10:03:04 jury questions read

[@my_name_is_rhyme]

Does anyone else think the jury watched the documentary?

[@lindagassert1108]

They didnt let her priest visit. That was pretty bad. They kept her away from her family. What did they think the priest would do? Give her ketemene? Ofcourse not

[@priscillacharlot8188]

GAWWWD! DId you not listen, read and watched all the evidence?? Not just when the jury sits in trial but before and all the after when jury leaves the room. When plaintiff and Defense show what evidence they want to put on the record? DCF took her away from her mother poisoning her child. In fact BEATA was going to loose permanent guardienship of her kids and she was also loosing her nursing licence. Her emails were of a mad woman reliving the horrors of what went on during these treatments. COME ON NOW!!!

[@ladybug947]

Inmates retain their right to meet with clergy yet this so called hospital didn’t allow a patient to do so, I hope Maya wins big

[@Annasgardenparty]

A doctor will shoo out clergy if it’s not in the best interest of the patients healing. It’s not an absolute right in a hospital setting, it’s a courtesy. They aren’t the government protecting constitutional rights.

[@Annasgardenparty]

@@ladybug947inmates in a prison are in the custody of the Government, be it local, State or Federal and have constitutional rights to exercise their religion freely without hindrance from government. A private hospital offers religious connection as a courtesy and part of care when it is helpful, but it is not an absolute right.

[@Cgpg80]

@@Annasgardenparty but it’s the patients right to see a clergy

[@NrsLisa]

Poor Kyle💔.. during Shapiro’s closing his eyes looked like he was waking up to the life of lies his family embedded in him. He’s the one and only true victim

[@darlacummings12]

😂😂

[@marybryner5562]

Yep that is laughable for sure! 😂 But what is not laughable is the fact that Kyle is one of the 4 victims in the Kowalski family and one of many other victims of Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.

[@mistyevans8160]

@marybryner5562 Exactly!

[@tonimoore1774]

I was out today. How long have they been deliberating?

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Looks like the stream ended... I guess they'll be a while

[@cindyherrera5410]

A bit over 4 hours if I remember correctly

[@lynnparrish1335]

I agree. I wouldn’t have out anything against the mother either. Had this and the other hospitals not intervened, this mentally ill child might well have died.

[@jessicapollan4039]

Or ended up like Gypsy Blanchard

[@sharonr3725]

Maya is not a mentally ill child. She has CRPS. GOOGLE it !

[@lynnparrish1335]

@@jessicapollan4039 Well perhaps. In the case of Gypsy, Munchausen by proxy is much more clear than in this case. While I’ll agree that Beata suffered from some mental defect(s), I think the Munchausen is less clear cut. But in each case the child victim was unusually smart and canny, for what that’s worth!

[@JHerrington-ue2ci]

I too have a child with CRPS unless you know how much people with this horrible condition suffer you shouldn’t say anything. Her mother did the best she could. Be happy you don’t have to hold your screaming child who feels like their limb is being burned 24/7. It’s horrific.

[@spalanki352]

​@@JHerrington-ue2ciShe did the best she could? She sent Maya to ketamine coma 6 weeks after she was diagnosed with crps. That's the last thing you should try after trying EVERYTHING else. How could they have tried everything else after only 6 weeks? Beata was dangerous for Maya.

[@marlene9821]

I can't believe that this even went to trial. The hospital did the right thing for Maya by keeping her mom away from her. Mom was mentally ill and thats why she killed herself.

[@joanc5441]

Truth!

[@sundaychamberlain228]

We'll see who wins. Justice for Maya

[@sundaychamberlain228]

Oh Marlene I can't wait for you to eat your words when the jury comes back😂😂😂😂😂

[@marlene9821]

@@sundaychamberlain228 this isn't a football game.

[@sundaychamberlain228]

@marlene9821 your right it isn't. These are people's lives. You were in chat alot talking crap.

[@rachelradcliffe3645]

When is the live tonight?

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

Really hope the Kowalski's win.

[@joanc5441]

If they win, children lose. We all lose.

[@ElectraX8]

10:14:28 jury note, judge asks if he read the note correctly. Juror responds "kind of"..judge lets the juror know this is serious. The juror is so unprofessional.

[@pearlyqueen76]

Judge worked too hard to create this informal, family like vibe. He gave too much latitude in the wrong places.

[@ElectraX8]

Yes I agree

[@shonabeggs4640]

​@@pearlyqueen76Couldn't agree more. I've been very disappointed in this judge, and his dialogue with the jury. He is not there to make friends with them. He has joked about whether they've seen media, spoken to anyone etc on a number of occasions, highly unprofessional- the result being jurors using profanity in notes to the court.

[@cheriesullivan1494]

Agree to all! This trial was not professional at all. It was a circus! 220 million dollars in lawsuits is serious!!

[@1234567jrl]

Excellent judge

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

Well Done Our Good Brother Judge God Bless You Amen xxxxxxx XXXXXXX And God Bless Your Earthly Life Time And Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx XXXXXXX

[@ryanblow5260]

“Stripped and pinned down”? I missed it! And now Maya can’t ever work again for the rest of her life?? Just asking…

[@cheriesullivan1494]

Lol😅ikr! They want to get rich!! Yea Anderson said a lot of lies! She didn’t get ‘stripped’, or ‘pinned down’ as shown in pictures! Just like he kept saying the hospital kidnapped her and held her against her will. First off THE HOSPITAL DIDNT kidnap her, THE STATE had control of her. Why r people not looking at these facts and seeing the truth…. Oh wait… they watched the movie.. one sided biased! My parents always taught me when I was young, you can’t always believe what you hear or read. I watched glued to the tv every second everyday. I live in Tampa, u bet I want to watch this.

[@Sead671]

​@@cheriesullivan1494The sw admitted to pinning her down while Maya was crying and didn't want to do the photos in her sports bra. They didn't have permission and they're creeps

[@Blahblahblah-z9h]

@@Sead671may I ask who sw is?

[@Sead671]

@@Blahblahblah-z9h social worker at the hospital

[@Blahblahblah-z9h]

@@Sead671 thank you!

[@silentowlscribe]

Clown show trial 😮

[@Gabriel-hf1yy]

Hope the jury comes good for maya Jack and Kyle...🎉

[@ninamartinez5171]

Shapiro Cayman hot today it's absolutely horrible the lies an deceptions spewing hatred towards this family is unbelievable horrible tactics 😢

[@stephentimko766]

And for Beata 😢

[@WooHooLaLa]

@@stephentimko766 LOL

[@marybryner5562]

It’s certainly not looking good for JHACH, that’s for sure! Let’s pray the people on the Jury do the only right and just thing and find the JHACH liable for the full $200 Million, payable to Maya and Kyle & Jack Kowalski. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@sharonhoward884]

Bahahaha,!!! Funny.

[@matthewnarvet7891]

Did they reach a verdict today

[@TMTM584]

No

[@matthewnarvet7891]

@@TMTM584I don’t want miss the verdict so that’s kinda good

[@ninamartinez5171]

No

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

Justice Amen xxxxxxx XXXXXXX GOD BLESS YOU MAYAS LEGAL TEAM VERY WELL DONE GOD BLESS YOU ALL AMEN XXXXXXX AND GOD BLESS YOUR EARTHLY LIFE TIMES AND EARTHLY FAMILYS AMEN XXXXXXX

[@bannontrenton9522]

bet it was juror number 1 that wrote the note 🤣🤣🤣

[@jegpad]

Yep, a smart arse ex cop steering the jury

[@TheUniqueme1]

@bannontrenton9522 ​​⁠Who is He???? Juror #1 Got the ROYAL 🥾 🥾 at the BEGINNING of todays Opening! What are you talking about??? He got Escorted out by the court Sheriff, asked To hand over any documents that he had! And was given the OPTION to leave his number for His FORMER jury Members to contact him AFTER the HEARING/TRIAL is OVER if they so Chose to! PERIOD! DOT THE END!

[@TheUniqueme1]

@@jegpad​​⁠Who is He???? Juror #1 Got the ROYAL 🥾 🥾 at the BEGINNING of todays Opening! What are you talking about??? He got Escorted out by the court Sheriff, asked To hand over any documents that he had! And was given the OPTION to leave his number for His FORMER jury Members to contact him AFTER the HEARING/TRIAL is OVER if they so Chose to! PERIOD! DOT THE END!

[@bannontrenton9522]

that was a differant juror 1083 or something like that. Did you even watch it @@TheUniqueme1 😂😂

[@bannontrenton9522]

haha if you say so. wow you must have been sad when judge overuled defence motion to remove him🤣🤣@@jegpad

[@cyndilagasse991]

how does the computer not have a calculator?

[@heidimbfam1845]

What did the note say?

[@sandtats]

See the link posted above for notes/judge's reading @ 7:36:20

[@ninamartinez5171]

To bad it's hey JHH how deep are your pockets?

[@melissanavarro9679]

Team Maya 🙏

[@margiekunze5278]

Was there more than one note? What did second one say?

[@sandtats]

One at the very end, last few mins. Just rewind. You really need to hear the judge read it. The first note was um, "questionable" re respectful. The 2nd note was way over the top disrespectful imo. Judge, who usually rolls, did not appear too pleased.

[@margiekunze5278]

Found it thank you. WOW inappropriate

[@poodledaddles1091]

@@sandtatsthanks sand, I’ll have to check it out!

[@ninamartinez5171]

The note said how deep are your pockets ?

[@cheriesullivan1494]

It’s ignorant! And shows n tells this family is most likely getting a hunk of money. Could be wrong, but these notes said it all. This foreman is a jerk. He shouldn’t be a juror, he doesn’t take this serious, they r going to make a big mistake, by giving even $1.00