Real Life Sagat vs 43-0 Kickboxing King

[@LawrenceKenshin]

Who won the first fight?

[@chrollolucifer37564]

Definitely sagat

[@LawrenceKenshin]

i can see that!@@chrollolucifer37564

[@brucehillbillybarthalow3786]

I believe Sagat won that first fight.

[@josephe9487]

Sagat

[@germancaro8999]

Sagat. His timming was perfect to avoid and counter the "fly like a butterfly,sting like a bee" of Cunningham attacks

[@StoneXue]

Very key thing that you mentioned but completely negated as a factor was in the 2nd fight they changed the rule for this fight so Sagat could not trap the leg and sweep. That was a key tactic for him in the first fight that he was not allowed to do in the 2nd fight. Side kicks only work against a Thai boxer IF you cannot sweep. This is why this fight went the way it did.

[@MrKeepnit100]

Muay Thai is the King of Striking

[@YakThaWiseman72]

They didn't take away the leg sweep, or low kicks, they took away the leg grab, it did put Sagat in a disadvantage but Sagat to be honest wanted to knock him out, hint his prediction of knocking him out in the 5th round 🤷🏿‍♂️ so I think he abandoned the leg sweeps, at one time Cunningham even jumped over a low kick, so in reality the leg grabs were taken away. Both fighters are phenomenal, I can't believe I never heard of Cunningham, I knew how great Sagat was. One of the best fights I've seen.

[@blazinchalice]

@@MrKeepnit100 I would say it is excellent for attacking the lower leg, for knees in the clinch, and for a very powerful body kick. Other striking arts are better in certain areas.

[@MrKeepnit100]

@@blazinchalice it's core attacks beat other striking styles because "if a man can't stand he can't fight" the leg kicks nullify boxing, and the TKD/Karate side stances. And this is from someone who practiced those disciplines my whole life.

[@blazinchalice]

@MrKeepnit100 if the fight starts face-to-face, or among a crowd, or a host of other scenarios, leg kicks aren't going to be a factor. In at least those two scenarios you'd be better off knowing boxing or karate. I've done Choi Li Fut, Kyokushin Karate, Jiu Jutsu and Judo.

[@darawanchomnok8334]

Sagat was just ridiculous, Peter Cunningham was just as ridiculous. Wish we had had more fights like this today. Perfect highlight thank you 🙏🏻❤️

[@The-Dom]

Dude, these two guys are hidden gems. Peter's footwork, balance and speed are out of this world. Sagat's level of skill, experience, knowledge and power is bonkers. To be able to adapt to Peter and that ruleset and beat him pretty soundly in the first fight is actually unbelievable. It's like if Francis Ngannou boxed Tyson Fury's brains out for 11 rounds.

[@YakThaWiseman72]

Yes Suh

[@teckzilla108]

You're right, both are explosive fighters for sure!!

[@aminnar6380]

haggerty vs andrade the other day was epic

[@efisgpr]

Sagat with knees and elbows would demolish Peter.

[@KemalArdilGulez]

"this proves that side kicks work against muay thai" I guess they do, if the Muay Thai fighter receives a warning from the ref every single time he grabs the kick of his opponents.

[@templarexemplar35]

and can't knee or elbow

[@kenaultman7499]

​@@templarexemplar35or clinch.

[@BarzOnTheWindow1]

Still love how Thai Boxers will agree to fight, regardless of how many of their tools are made illegal.

[@jaredfoust9210]

good point

[@thatdude3977]

Or copied

[@BenAliasTheBoss]

I think Sagat won the first fight. Considering the rules changed in the second fight, he still did incredibly well even though he couldn't grab and sweep. He focused too much on the KO and I think it worked against him. Cunningham is beautiful to watch, such grace and flow, it looks so easy when we look at him. It's insane they went 11 rounds, those guys are monsters, I'm not sure if people realize that! Would have love to see that full muay thai rules honestly. Thanks for the video as always, great job!

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

Sagat could have won if he had his emotions under control. Cunningham's speed, illusiveness and especially mockery got him and he got angrier which is unusual for Thais. Never saw a top Thai fighter losing his shit before. Saenchai and Buakaw would beat Cunningham and Rodtang probably too

[@MetalizedButt]

He got angry yes, but the major factor of him losing had nothing to do with emotion, he was too used to grabbing legs and oddly did not adapt/prepare for the modified rules, therefore he had no answer for sugarfoot’s sidekicks and got pushed away the entire fight. He couldn’t close the distance.

[@metalface_villain]

rotdang and saenchai might be a little small for this dude,at least judging by the looks of it cuz i don't know his weight n height but i think buakaw would probably beat him since he was also familiar with the kickboxing rules too. if cuningham was to fight full muay thai rules tho i think that most decent thai fighter would murder him regardless @@tyronevaldez-kruger5313

[@tarnsebastiandodd8970]

In Muay Thai he woulda got destroyed

[@kenaultman7499]

He couldn't elbow, knee, use an extended clinch, catch kicks and sweep, and basically had all of what muay Thai is, taken away. There's a reason the second fight only happened under those rules. Because it's the only way Cunningham would take the fight. But you know, any rules, anyone, anywhere. Or something...

[@Ajhmee]

Any rules in the world but no elbow no knee no clinch no holding leg. 😆

[@LawrenceKenshin]

the no holding leg rule confuses me!

[@AmericankickboxingMMA]

Thai men are so scared to fight in MMA where they can use their elbow, knee, clinch, and holding legs 😝😝😝😛😜😜😜🤪🤪🤪😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜

[@judas57650]

actually,

[@illuminatidetector8256]

I do muay thai at uni and on some days we spar against kickboxers. The no leg holding is the dumbest rule, it counters so many kicks from kickboxers really well, but they say you cant use one of the best defences just because its inconvenient for them. A bunch of cowards

[@healthypulse8511]

Yesss playing solitaire solo😅

[@daiblaze1396]

I love how Muay Thai fighters were fighting with less tools in their arsenal while their opponent could use all of them. Imagine how difficult it would be to fight with less. You lose your habits, have to think more to do less ! As for those fights, thank you for letting me discover Cunningham. Haven't heard of him before. I really like the way he moves in space. 1st one is Sagat clear winner at the end of fight. 2nd one was lovely to watch these two exchanging blows. Sagat was fighting from behind. Sagat's "tiger" uppercut is a pure gem to watch. He was the one that made me realised how to properly execute them. No wonder it is such iconic move in the video game !

[@iz.FullSend]

Exactly

[@iz.FullSend]

Exactly

[@SilentRage01]

Excuses.... He agreed to the fight. What part of this people don't understand? Get over it. He lost.

[@metalface_villain]

usually against bigger opponents too

[@metalface_villain]

@@SilentRage01he didn't say he didn't lose (at least the second one), he said he finds it cool that he did agree to the fight even though he is heavily disadvantaged, something that the western kickboxers of the time never had the balls to do when they went against muay thai fighters and even with the rules in their favor most times they still lost, even cuningham here lost the first fight. don't get triggered for no reason and learn to understand what you are reading lmao

[@mrandrade784]

11 rounds of kickboxing... Sounds like hell on earth! The shape you have to be in to fight competitively is ridiculous. Salute to both of these goats. Mr kenshin thank you again for sharing. 😊😊

[@clifforddang5947]

Exactly, Jesus that must be tough as hell.

[@darkcircle899]

Considering that these are two fo the best fighters of all time in Kickboxing and they were gassed at the end of the fight it's definitely insane.

[@DKYtut]

Imo 3x3min or 5x3min for titles is too short in kickboxing, it's the most exciting combat sport to watch but I'm always left with a bitter feeling compared to watching UFC or even boxing just because it's a bit too short.

[@krystofcisar469]

@@DKYtut 3 minutes is great for striking fights... anyhing more than 5x3 is ery unncessary and not much interesting - short rounds make better fights.

[@chrisb1906]

And neither man looked winded, like they could have fought 5 more eounds

[@yomly]

The no leg grabbing is quite a big deal. Being able to catch the side kick is a big deterrent…

[@LawrenceKenshin]

true

[@gordonbman2911]

I bet Sagat wouldve caught a lot of the kicks and knocked peter down. Its a bit unfair for Sagat's Style

[@yomly]

@@gordonbman2911 catching kicks is a huge aspect of muay thai and you can eat anything from a kick, punch or sweep for getting caught. Banning it is allowing him to sidekick unpunished.

[@ChristianWildeD]

This! No leg grabbing and no elbows bend the rules quite significantly to benefit the kickboxer.

[@smokescreenOG]

he can still leg kick though, and that's all they do when they catch the leg. He would have nullified some of the kicks by catching them, but still would be at a disadvantage, as mt kicks are less advanced than karate kicks that Pete employs.

[@jblb42]

The rule changes in the second fight was the difference. It took away many of Sagat’s usual weapons. I’m not sure that we con say that side kicks work against my Thai, Cunningham was a once in a generation fighter, and just because he could do something doesn’t mean others could do the same. Both are amazing fighters. May Thai rules, Sagat wins. kickboxing rules, Cunningham wins.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

Interesting to see these two fight. Personally I’m not a huge fan of rules which strip the main weapons from Muay Thai fighters while leaving the opponent with a full armoury. It is psychologically more difficult for Sadat and a psychological advantage for Peter. I noticed that following the leg grabbing and Peter’s tactical complaining, Sadat seemed restrained. I would’ve loved to see these fighters fight Muay Thai rules with all 8 limbs available to both 👍🏻

[@masterk5372]

Kickboxing rules are stupid

[@yeetlordentertainment3937]

Well, to be fair, Sagat is established to be a world class boxer. I don't think he was at too much of a disadvantage. That said, I also wish they'd done a full Muay Thai rules fight. It feels a little cheap, fighting with rules that limit one fighter.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

@@yeetlordentertainment3937 That’s how I feel about it

[@LeatherNinja]

​@@yeetlordentertainment3937wdym he's not at that much of a disadvantage? They took all of his counters away and basically made it so he couldn't close the gap.

[@DesertBeagle]

What always bothers me about these Muay Thai vs Western kickboxing fights is that they never have a fight that uses full Muay Thai rule set. The fights always have the Thais getting major elements of their game getting taken away, so It's difficult to really judge who is really better. The first fight was close, but I think Sagat edged out Cunningham with those sweeps. Banning Sagat from catching kicks all but forced him to change up the strats, and really screwed him before the bell rang. Cunningham seems to like keeping that leg lingering up for those defensive side kicks. I think that if Sagat would have been able to catch kicks, the second fight would have went very differently. Sagat may very well may have KO'd Cunningham by the 5th if he could catch a kick, throw his stance off, and level him with a power punch.

[@BoxerKyokushin]

Yet Thai men are so scared to fight in MMA where Thai men can use all his muay thai arsenals 😝😝😜😜😜😜🤪🤪😜😜😜🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@darkcircle899]

I agree that it's hard for Thai fighters to have to change things up but doing the fight by Western Kickboxing rules makes the most sense. Thai fighters can't use elbows or catch kicks but if they did a fight by Muay Thai rules the Kickboxer would have to spend a long time to perfect techniques that they don't use. It's easier to use less than you know than to add new techniques to your arsenal especially because good striking takes a long time to develop, and no one wants to have a year long training camp for one fight. Someone is always going to be at a disadvantage depending on what rules you use but the Thai fighters are at less of a disadvantage using Kickboxing rules compared to Kickboxers using Muay Thai rules.

[@mcspud]

@@darkcircle899 "but doing the fight by Western Kickboxing rules makes the most sense." But then you can't say its "muay thai vs kickboxing", because its not. It's just kickboxing vs kickboxing, and kickboxing is the demonstrably inferior striking style.

[@juanmejiagomez5514]

@@darkcircle899 yeah but instead of picking one of the two rulesets they could have settled for mixed rules, this way the thais don’t have complete disadvantage. For example no elbows, no clinch, but knees and catching kicks are allowed. Picking one ruleset is just giving one of the fighters a handicap, mixed rules make the most sense for these types of fights

[@darkcircle899]

​@@mcspud Yeah it's not a Kickboxing vs Muay Thai fight is a Kickboxer vs Muay Thai fighter fight. They are both competing in kickboxing. Also saying that Kickboxing is just the inferior style altogether definitely isn't true. Kickboxing still has its uses and is good to learn. Notice that there is no person in the UFC who does pure Muay Thai they all take some things from Muay Thai some things from Kickboxing and some things from boxing to put together the best striking they can. It's not an all-or-nothing type thing just because pure Muay Thai has a good matchup against pure Kickboxing that doesn't make Kickboxing useless or interior in general.

[@dr.options]

Current MMA figthers need to watch Cunningham to see how to use that quick side kick for spacing and countering of low kicks. Of course, it opens them up to getting the leg grabbed and taken down, but seems like something worthwhile to add to the arsenal. Great video!

[@r6guy]

Zhang weili and Li jiangliang have both used the side kick effectively in MMA.

[@vuhuy4541]

@@r6guy yeah, that Sanda specialty,

[@user-eb2kv7bg4t]

no, it wouldn't work, because you can catch kicks in mma, and the traditional sidekick is the easiest kick to catch

[@dr.options]

@user-eb2kv7bg4t yep...that's what I said in my initial comment about the risk of the leg being grabbed. For fighters with shitty takedown defense, they'll get taken down regardless by a good grappler. Might as well fend off the leg kicks until that happens. Low kicks, especially to the back of the knee have become a huge weapon to incapacitate their opponent. In the past, the kicks were typically higher on the leg into the quadriceps and some hamstring.

[@steveking1037]

It only works with special rules to protect the guy throwing them. Cunningham es the best in the world with them, and they would have been worthless if Sagat was allowed to catch them. Cunningham would have spent half the fight on his ass. I’m MMA, Cunningham never would have got up after the first one.

[@Drikkerbadevand]

I kind of feel like cunningham was just uniquely made to counter him. Two freak athletes and both were the best. Also "He'll fight anyone anywhere with any rules in the world" Except of course elbows, knees, leg grabs and sweeps which Sagat was much more used to fighting with

[@VictorHenderson]

This 100 percent.

[@dominoslays4286]

except Muay Thai rules of course

[@discipleaj]

Yes. LK's point around side kicks working against Muay Thai - yes. But primarily when a Nak Muay has restricted rules placed on him/her as noted above.

[@hellvsheaven89]

Under muay thai rule, he wont last 3 rounds.

[@EduruChan]

Sagat being the smaller fighter, with all his weapons disabled..and got cheated..the N just a cwrd…

[@EricJacobusOfficial]

So much character in both of their movements.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

agreed!

[@DiamondShogun]

Sagat was a killer!!

[@LawrenceKenshin]

yes hes amazing

[@rolandmarkland6844]

Cunningham: Hold my beer….

[@nestorarcilaosorio2457]

@@rolandmarkland6844 He got beat on the 1st and have to change the rules for him to win on the 2nd one.

[@rolandmarkland6844]

Cunningham lost fighting by his opponents rules and almost won (some say he did) and dominated fighting by his own kick boxing rules in the second fight.

[@LeatherNinja]

​​@@rolandmarkland6844he did not almost win lmao

[@stuartwadlow9815]

The skill level of these two fighters is very impressive.

[@isudizzyblud]

street fighter needs to run it back and create a peter cunningham character

[@FoxUnitNell]

Deejee sort of fits the bill but is a Caribbean kickboxer with explosive kick combo and also cool dance moves. So I'm guessing from this video that Cunningham is very important so I'm guessing the street fighter guys knew of him especially since he fought sagat so Capcom would've used Cunningham as inspiration for a jovial energetic western kick boxer.

[@UnboxingTigre]

@@FoxUnitNell Billy Blanks was the fighter that inspired DeeJay character.

[@Shinobi33]

​@@FoxUnitNellDeeJay is Carribbean but his style definitely is Karate styled American kickboxing

[@Stock_Glock_33]

💯

[@multitalentedman1284]

we got Dee Jay for it.

[@josephcrowe9670]

This was so great. Absolutely love it! Pete and Sagat are combat sport legend

[@GuysVille]

Hate the exclusion of rules. That’s how you know Muay Thai is the striking king because they always take tools out the arsenal. K1 did an overhaul after the clinch was too effective and took it out pretty much completely.

[@KingCuba]

7:58 I know this channel isn’t about the editing, lol. But DAMN SON, that was sick. Syncing the sweep with the drop was tight!

[@LawrenceKenshin]

[@bruceroberts8614]

Thank you Lawrence for spotlighting Sugarfoot!, He is one of the American greats but don't get much of the spotlight! He would also go on to admire and recognize the muay thai kick!

[@LawrenceKenshin]

much love

[@blackpurple9163]

I didn't know Peter before this video, but man he's very fast and agile, and his control with his kicks is so good!! The way he switched between so many kicks in the 5th round is remarkable, I can't even think about doing that

[@YakThaWiseman72]

Myself as well first time hearing about this Brother

[@Buckiz]

Because you live in a racist world. That’s why. If he was any other race he would be plastered everywhere. lol

[@SnakeStAugustine]

The initial description is inaccurate. Cunningham's career record was 52-0-1. No losses; the only draw being his first fight with Sagat.

[@NinjaMarkRomberg]

The second match has a set of rules that where designed to give Cunningham a huge advantage. Anyway, both are true legends.

[@buggaboo2707]

Glad you didn't stop making videos Your content is some of the best on the net and you should never stop Just wait until you find a good topic like this one

[@viiedgerunner]

with any rules, as far as he dictates them haha. amazing fighter anyways, but that was just kickboxing. not Sagat style at all .

[@LawrenceKenshin]

wish sagat got to use all his arsenal!

[@Bruce4lmighty]

My thoughts exactly 👍🏻

[@Stock_Glock_33]

OMG I think I’ve just witnessed true greatness. Very entertaining and skillful Both of them go harder than most. Utterly Beautiful💪🏾👊🏾🥶

[@dubtechnosessions3161]

Thank you for showcasing Peter on your channel 🙏 Was blessed to have him in my corner and in the gym helping me on many occasions. Legendary fighter/Trainer and person 🤜💥🤛

[@emotee3523]

Amazing video, both fighters are Incredible, legendary Masters ✊🏿

[@ahmadfarhanmohdfuad394]

Just to be clear. Side kick does NOT check any Muay Thai fighters. The rules does.

[@kesenaememere8520]

It does lol even some Thai fighters developed their variation of the side kick look up Tawanchai and he dies this perfectly.

[@GRiNDWiZARD187]

Awesome job with the video. fighters in this generation need to know & learn of battle between these two GOATs. thank you

[@TheMightySilverback_]

Peter with the best non-Ali Ali shuffle of all time at 5:05, I've checked around for someone who can do it as well as Ali, even for demonstration purposes but none come as close to Peter there. Great video, but for me the highlight of the video was seeing a shuffle unrelated to the fight outcome hahaha.

[@georgefranklin8513]

Not letting a Thai fighter catch kicks then sweep the leg is dumb. Sagat wins this fight if rules weren't put in place to buffer his skill.

[@DareBizarre]

I would say Pete was doing some taekwondo. The jumping, bladed stance, round house kicks.

[@rooseveltcade3935]

Another masterclass 🔥🔥🔥

[@michaeltechsource]

Another great video! Thanks Lawrence!

[@ekramer1552]

It's amazing how everyone wants to fight the Thai,s but not at the Muay Thai rules, bringing, knees, clinching , throws, elbows would make a big difference....any rules, anytime, when we going to see the fight according to Muay Thai rules now.

[@rickybrown7687]

Head butts and eye pokes and kicks to the nuts make a big difference too! That’s like saying everyone wants to fight Mike Tyson, but they want him to wear gloves.

[@UceLeeroy]

This is why the Dutch get the Respect in Thailand for fighting Full Thai Rules, True Muay Thai with Elbows, Knees, Plam, Dumps and Prior to The Rainbow Sor. Prantale fight Plowing your opponent. Even though Benny The Jet, Manson Gibson, Peter Cunningham, Don Wilson were Amazing Kickboxers in their Skillset, Ruleset its hard to believe their victory percentage would be the same fighting in Thailand.To me maybe Benny The Jet would make the adjustments to be successful but its because he has a tough Full contact background. It would be hard to match Benny and Manson in weight as the Thais didnt have many big fighters Except mainly Diesel Noi, Chanpuek, Suadao, Pothai but majority of the Thai Vs Farang encounters they are always at weight disadvantage like Nokweed Devy. Too Bad Dany Bille and Sugarfoot didnt fight each other. Different eras but would have loved to see that. Just my thoughts Fellow Warriors.

[@michaelmerjil7874]

Very cool I didn't know that about the dutch. Peter coached me for several years when I was younger. Sure helped toughen me up a bit haha. Good times :)

[@maneateroftsavo]

I hate the fights where someone (kickboxing, karate, taekondo, etc...) promotes it as their style vs muay thai but the Thai boxer has half his damn arsenal disqualified. You're not fighting against muay thai if he can't elbow, knee, clinch and sweep or dump. Just facts.

[@mauiboyfitness1614]

Mahalo for posting this fight I learned tons off of just watching gonna take this into sparring come Wednesday. 🤙🏽👊🏾 #HawaiianKickboxer

[@jeffhill7324]

I was there near ringside for that fight in Melbourne. The fight was set up for Cunningham to win. No holds, no knees, no elbows. Every advantage was to the style of the American. Not downplaying Pete's skill because it was fantastic but of course under those rules Pete should win. Under Thai rules Pete would be lucky to not get ko

[@ee1014]

The first fight was in muy thai. The second was American kick boxing. Cunningham said he will challenge Sagat in his realm. And Sagat said he will do the same.

[@blazinchalice]

Top class, Lawrence Kenshin! Thank you for bringing this outstanding matchup with considerable acumen, analysis and respect.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

thank you

[@SoleCollector32]

Peter beat sagat twice 😂 second fight just proved it again

[@sammyboy2987]

Sagat whooped his ass the first time and Peter had to have the rules changed to win the second fight. That is the reality...

[@scorpio252000]

Another great fight analysis. Thank you so much for these breakdowns.

[@nucklechutz9933]

Peter Cunningham had a video game character based off him as well, they just made him Korean, he's in Tekken, named Hwarang. Apparently had his whole kit lifted from Cunningham v. Sagat 2.

[@cosmok783]

He’s inspired by him ?

[@Chounubis]

If possible, also do one on Coban (if you haven't already)! Probably one of the best counter-punchers in Muay Thai history. Very happy to see Sagat getting love - man is a monster.

[@URBANDRAGON999]

Brooo....thx for this video. These guys were legendary I'm surprised that at age 41 i never heard of these guys.

[@WuShuKungFuJudo]

Dont be too hard on yourself, there so many legendary fighter's i already knew but this year alone found 5 new ones 😅

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

I think a lot more needs to be put out there for Peter Cunningham. He was really good, but not many people mention him. But I am wondering if its because it was so many years ago.

[@stephenlee3450]

The rules were tailored for Peter Cunningham. Not to discredit his skill or ability but if these were Muay Thai rules the fight would not be the same. So who is better? We’ll never know

[@Ben-xf7uy]

Are you going to do anything for Buakaw vs Saenchai bare knuckle muay thai rules???? No one is talking about it and its next weekend.....

[@LawrenceKenshin]

hmmmm i wonder why there's not much marketing

[@Ben-xf7uy]

@@LawrenceKenshin yeah thats true. All the marketing i have seen is through Saenchai on social media.

[@mikeholley4488]

Sagat lost solely because his teeth were pulled. No elbows, no knees, no sweeps and no throws. That is what half of his life experiences were. No different than McGregor VS mayweather in boxing. I would rate them both as GOATs in their respective fight styles.

[@rickybrown7687]

All martial artists have moves taken away! Such as head butts, eye gouges, kicks and punches to the nuts. No one wants to see a man die or blinded in the ring.

[@smokepeddler]

The rules in the second fight took away half of Sagat's arsenal.

[@dolidj3401]

Wow.. 11 rounds.. Amazing.. This is a GOAT Fighter...

[@davekenjoplojr.266]

you’re an absolute legend! could you please analyze as to who really won the rodtang vs superlek or the jo nattawut vs tawanchai?

[@Bruce4lmighty]

Rodtang was robbed. There’s my analysis for what it’s worth 😂😂😂 👍🏻

[@davekenjoplojr.266]

But was it really?

[@Bruce4lmighty]

@@davekenjoplojr.266 You think Superlek beat Rodtang?

[@DKYtut]

Yes he won 2-1 convincingly, volume is the biggest indicator of winning in muay thai and kickboxing, that combined with the fact that kicks score more than punches in muay thai, Superlek won. Rodtang had a strong first round but in the 2nd and 3rd round Supelek was racking points, yes, Supelek got a big cut but you should know the cut only scores for first round and that's it. @@Bruce4lmighty

[@Bruce4lmighty]

@@DKYtut Thanks! I understand why he was declared the winner of the match however, the opinion of the majority (including me) is Rodtang won the fight. I’d argue that fights have been stopped for much more minor cuts than the gash Rodtang opened on Superlek’s forehead however, Superlek was allowed to continue with a face like Freddy Krueger! The look of surprise on Rodtang’s face when it wasn’t says it all. Don’t forget that Superlek didn’t make weight and even those extra pounds hardly made a difference. Missing weight at this level is acutely unprofessional 👍🏻

[@jonathanshaw8868]

When both fighters are so good you don't even have a favorite, and is just spectacular

[@gnarfhmpf]

I realy hate fights where one of the opponents isn't allowed to use half his arsenal. Knees and elbows are the main weapons in Muai Thai. Clinch, with some knee action, and holding leg is the main defense. It's like telling a BJJ fighter that crappling isn't allowed. We should put Peter Cunningham in the octagon. There he can proof his skill

[@smart741]

He couldn't even get close, how will he use any of those? Whenever he tries to get close he gets kicked back or receives multiple shots

[@mariorodriguezjunior]

Sagat won the Muay Thai bout, Sugarfoot won the Kickboxing bout, but what's with the weird 11 round duration, last time I remember that happening was Don Wilson vs Maurice Smith in Japan.

[@End_Domestic_Violence]

"No leg-grab rule?" So special rules to disadvantage Sagat, eh? Got it.

[@SilentRage01]

He agreeded to it..

[@LeatherNinja]

​@@SilentRage01They essentially removed Sagat's win con and made it so he couldn't counter the punishable sidekicks. Cunningham won the fight but it doesn't really mean anything since its a fight he should have won considering the rules. It says a lot when one of the best kick boxers are scared to fight with Mauy Thai rules.

[@SilentRage01]

@@LeatherNinja He knew the rules, he signed the contract, he lost. Get over it...

[@kesenaememere8520]

@@SilentRage01 Facts these Thai fans are Crybabies.

[@SilentRage01]

@@kesenaememere8520 It's so sad 😂👍

[@nestorarcilaosorio2457]

Cunningham lost badly the 1st fight, he was on the ground most of the time, none the less he was an incredible fighter. The 2nd fight make me lose all respect for Cunningham and his team, the change of rules for huuuge advantage in his favor was disgusting. Sidekicks do work, but only when you are not allowed to grab and/or sweep.

[@rogueshinobislash]

Dee Jay obliterated Sagat with face to foot style moves. Phenom!

[@awesomeboy406]

Wow, Pete Cunninghams kicks were something else!

[@mrhighway5312]

Great video. Don’t think I ever heard of Cunningham before this. But funny enough my fiancé and I recently watched No Retreat,No Surrender. When watching it I was thinking this guy must’ve been an actual fighter.

[@xyaeiounn]

I was at the second fight, it was the big first kickboxing event I had ever seen, Bill Wallace was there to do a comedy sparring demo making Sifu Rick Spain look like a beginner. My memory of the later rounds is pretty much just Sakad chopping away with his right low kick at Cunningham's forward left shin. Everybody there knew they were seeing something very special, two fighters clearly in great condition that were a cut above in every way.

[@errolpaul8043]

How does it prove side kicks work against Muay Thai when you aren't allowed to grab the kick?

[@Thermolizer]

Side kicks are a lot harder to catch than Muay Thai teeps

[@3084sai]

This was very informative. Thanks for this Champ.

[@hattorihaso2579]

Funny how everyone wants to fight a muay thai fighter but nobody wants to fight a muay thai fighter in muay thai and take aways half of his weapons

[@SilentRage01]

Then muay Thai fighters should not agree to fight in those matches...

[@willdestroya]

Daammn Sagat got destroyed by DJ in that 2nd fight !🤣😂

[@dialac1]

Peter Cunningham’s cardio is next level. He was moving much more than Sagat and still didn’t gas before Sagat

[@gentlemankennyedwards2533]

I think Sagat won the first fight. Awesome content Lawrence. I remember Cunningham from Never Surrender Never Backdown, but didn't know he was a real live champion.

[@jonplayle6954]

I bet if he fought Sagat in Muay Thai rules in another fight he would have definitely got cut up

[@pointsur67]

Why do people always say stuff like this? "If this" or "If that"?

[@sR-rc8ph]

Full muay Thai rule he would have been died LOL, "Any rules and will take any fight" lol but didn't want full muay Thai rules. He was fighting handicap both fights ... wish they did a 3rd fight full muay Thai rules it would have been really interesting to see.

[@MeMe-fq6ov]

Awesome(Kickboxer)! 💯%

[@LawrenceKenshin]

yess!!

[@davildos]

These 2 had all, but Sagat won the 1st match to me. Their technique, rythm and condition are just outstanding. Cunningam should have replaced side kicks by front kicks in the rules of the first fight. He shows most high level hands and kicks techniques and his check hook was just shocking. It would probably be a different story with elbows and all the stuff. Congratulations to both.

[@thomaslandcaster9638]

How can you say which style is better when you take away Sagat tools.

[@MrShahrozzz]

Basically.. Sagat (SF) vs Bruce Irvin (Tekken)

[@The-Dom]

THe second fight Peter made a great adjustment. He stopped trying to land the first attack, and instead used it as bait and was better prepared to follow it up with combos. The first fight Sagat took control be evading the opening strike and countering well.

[@r6guy]

The second fight peter made the adjustment of changing the rules 🤣

[@YungFlashGod]

Dont give that bs about great adjustment lol the second fight with the new rules changed to favorite one fighter gtfo

[@burgertime72]

This is a great vid. How have I never heard of Cunningham before this vid ?

[@kidnamedfinger37]

When do we get a breakdown of Ben Askren's striking?

[@LawrenceKenshin]

why ben!

[@cloudydoesgames]

what striking

[@JohnRae-x9l]

Loved the video! What song is playing at the start? Keep up the good work!

[@SkalalaOne]

BACK2BACK STRLGHT & Roonin

[@ringsoskuirockwoh6789]

With Muay rules cunningham will be KO before 1st round....this is kickboxing rules so, One cant say he won

[@LawrenceKenshin]

maybe!

[@psycho-mike]

Awesome vid

[@moe_flow5794]

They had the audacity to say any rules after limiting every muay thai rule out there. This was a kickboxing match

[@truekingvictory]

Not only did Peter Cunningham have insane kickboxing skills, he also had some serious dance moves 🕺🪩

[@LogicAtItsFinest]

Great breakdown.

[@dave_ryan]

Cunningham said he'd "fight anybody anywhere in the world any rules," just so long as you don't hold his leg. 🤣

[@adleiameir8147]

Both of them doubtly the most talented fighter in the world...hope there will be more like them in future...💕🇲🇾

[@AntowQa]

this is not muay thai fight. this is kickboxing. no, thank you

[@LawrenceKenshin]

its a great fight!

[@quadrapodacone]

Such a great video!

[@andrewdunbar828]

I missed the first rematch? It went straight from the first match to "rematch again"? Why was there a no-leg-catch rule in the last fight but not the first one? Is it not allowed in American kickboxing? Were elbows disallowed in all their fights? Do we know if Cunningham ever fought any Thais under full Muay Thai rules?

[@danielmoses2440]

Sugarfoot Cunningham’s boxing coach Stan Ward was my boxing coach for two years.

[@markmiller5558]

I met Sagat at the Muay Thai Academy in North Hollywood. It was known that he couldn't really see out of his right eye, we just weren't supposed to talk about it. Sagad also had a very beautiful Wai khru ram muay that he actually won awards for

[@jeetjerome]

Nice Video! Could you make a list of music that you used?

[@river4837]

Sagat was stripped of critical MuayThai techniques like elbows, catching the leg and sweeping, knees and elbows. The outcome would have been different.

[@chaddenning]

Sagat should win by default if we scale both to an even playing field in no scenario should Peter win

[@joaoguilhermebastos519]

DEE JAY WIN! Woah, that was one of the best episodes of this channel. And i'm hella impressed with Cunningham. Did he studied Taekwondo?

[@davidisthis]

That second fight isn't worth watching. They created the rules to favor that Cunningham guy.

[@aribaker8179]

This fight has some truly amazing technique in it. the form of both of these guys in incredible. such a show case of the two styles so awesome!

[@Napalm2131]

I never knew there were so many black muay thai and kick boxers. Every time I seen a video doc on here about one they are debated GOAT status. #BLACKGOATSMATTER