While it's always a joy to watch the magic Chris can do on his own, it's also a treat to see what a well coordinated team can do, working together.
@nemo2272 жыл бұрын
I was impressed. The explanation about how they kept it all in alignment and the groundwater wrap was interesting and informative too.
@CharlesOnikosi-ql5sbАй бұрын
This looks good for extreme storms in remote islands that are surrounded by oceans. This should a compulsory insurance blanket coverage against system risk, resulting in unprecedented catastrophe.
@GARDENER422 жыл бұрын
I could tell right off Chris wasn't the operator by the state of the counterweight & the broken mirror. Oh & the machine being a Deere. 😁
@bigchuckyinkentucky62672 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that he would even associate with THOSE kinda people.
@GARDENER422 жыл бұрын
@@bigchuckyinkentucky6267 🤣
@kennethhume86282 жыл бұрын
@@bigchuckyinkentucky6267 , hilarious 😂😂
@marcryvon2 жыл бұрын
@@bigchuckyinkentucky6267 🤣🤣🤣
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb2 жыл бұрын
Meh, the dirt doesn't care if the machine is a creampuff or not. Pipeliners never make much money anyway. Cutthroat business.
@ricklane85542 жыл бұрын
Impressive project Chris hat off... I worked for 41 years in the PVC Drainage pipes in Holland but this is great buddy!!
@jonnooney71022 жыл бұрын
Looking at all the different types of soil in that pile it is easy to see how Charlie stays so busy adding cement.
@mitchrapp25562 жыл бұрын
The last pipe I laid was 78 inch double barrel on I-275 near downtown Tampa. We had trench boxes and laid rock under the pipes. Also, that has to be a 3% slope. Not 30.
@infinitepaul2 жыл бұрын
The operator misspoke. Chris confirmed he meant 3ft per hundred feet. That's 3%, or 30‰.
@python35742 жыл бұрын
lol.... Oroville Dam spillway is probably a 30% grade, that drain pipe is definitely only 3%.
@dennisrogers81072 жыл бұрын
Caught that too. 3 feet in 100 is 3% not 30. 30% is WAYYYYY steep for drainage pipe.
@2wwwilly2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisrogers8107 Down a hill yeah..
@KSparks802 жыл бұрын
@@dennisrogers8107 When the water outruns the turd, bad things happen.
@danielmarek46092 жыл бұрын
Seeing those concrete pipes reminds me that years ago I went on a service call to a company up where I live that made concrete pipes. It was an interesting machine. Also the groove on the small end with the gasket was cut after the pipe was casted and dried. That cutter was the machine I was called out on. Cool to see pipe like this being pieced together.
@ignacio95522 жыл бұрын
There is something captivating about Chris's letsdig18 videos. Even if he's not the operator, the quality and angle of the videos, the sound of the excavator in the background and timing of the narration is just perfect.
@travisrider22192 жыл бұрын
Charlie has a impressive crew and company in general. Chris you are surrounding yourself with great friends and knowledge.
@charlottemusser54842 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the crew and the videographer. Love that we are provided an explanation of how this drain works. Makes me appreciate all the pieces that go into making and keeping infrastructure going - from the machines, to the supplies, to the know how to make this happen. Great job!
@bradstubbings98712 жыл бұрын
Two operators just standing around watching others work. Reminds me of Cal Trans here in California. ( Road Maintenance). 10 bosses, 2 workers and 40 winos. Lol. Things are alot different here in California. I also wtch a drain cleaner channel in Australia. Thier sewer pipes are above ground and drain into 12 inch boxes in the yard. The drains have to be cleaned out monthly by a plumber. How gross is that, but watching the plumber is funny at times. Love watching both of you together, how awesome. Keep the great videos coming.
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.74412 жыл бұрын
When I was working I was a damage prevention inspector with the gas company here in Southern Ontario and I would spend hours and days on job sites like this watching these guys dig if they were close to the big gas mains had to make sure they weren't digging near it this is really interesting stuff it goes on every day non-stop. 👍👍😀🇨🇦
@MassExMan562 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video! It was a real joy to watch and remember what a well-oiled-machine (the crew/operation) looks and sounds like again! I found myself immersed in the routine to the point of wanting to jump in on the action myself! I appreciate this video.
@AncientHermit2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is a big old run! 😃Thanks for sharing Chris.😉 Be well.😊
@steves99152 жыл бұрын
So this is what it means about the 'guys in the trenches' these days. Very interesting seeing the process and the explanations and watching another great operator and cool seeing DP there also.
@dalecherry40442 жыл бұрын
In the early 70s a friend of mine was working on a crew putting in storm drain for a subdivision. He had a bad motorcycle accident but his boss had him doing light duty to keep him working. His job was keeping track of how much pipe had been laid. One morning his boss asked him how many joints he had and he told his boss two. His boss's didn't believe him and asked if he was sure. As he was reaching in his pocket to show his boss he only had two joints, his boss said to him. I know they have put more pipe in the ground than that. My friend realized he was talking about pipe and said oh 13.
@KSparks802 жыл бұрын
Apparently, he had 3 in his pocket just a few minutes before this conversation with the boss took place.
@chadgodfrey43642 жыл бұрын
Old soft Charleston ground high water table is right.They did a good job for that time frame Thanks for sharing Chris
@BillW-NJ2 жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by construction like this. Thanks for sharing!
@terrencelinnell47022 жыл бұрын
Hi there Chris, I live in the UK, and laid pipe back in the eighties, we would over dig 3 or 4 inches, lay down a bed of pea gravel, if we were high the bucket would give the pipe a wriggle, if low lift and pack under, the pipes were 12 metres by 1 for fresh water metal and welded, levels taken with a traveller.
@mikeznel60482 жыл бұрын
Man I miss that kind of work.
@jansenfarm.38482 жыл бұрын
I build storm drain boxes for a living so it's really cool to see how their put in the ground an pipe laid in.
@jonlowe87272 жыл бұрын
First time I ever saw a target level being used it was in the centre of the pipe. 2003 in Edinburgh. Never seen one since. Love seeing how other people do it. Great content mate 👍
@michaelmullins12902 жыл бұрын
The bells go uphill. Always a teachable moment! Nice looking job. If you 2 jumped in back filling. Charlie would appreciate it. Alot!$$$$
@marksaunders25002 жыл бұрын
Hi from uk chris and crews👋 what a awesome crew @ dirtperfect mike does well and its all about each person having that task and knowing other guys thought and being rite place for it 👍👍 poetry in motion watching this 1 great job 👍👍 and like the seep through membrane in place on connections (love your comment too about nudging pipe in with your hard ground "" if I did that I'd have 2 pieces of pipe""😂😂 you know when to drop these lines mate al give you that hope everyone ok up farm cant wait for your big pipe job (need the big pipe now got the pipe need the weather and time job 😬😂) thanks for your time and be safe see you soon👍👍👋
@arkansas13362 жыл бұрын
The laser makes it look like a riffel barrel, a good feeling to have at the end of the day!
@BlaznCaucasian5 ай бұрын
This looks like it would be a pretty good living. It looks pretty easy.
@JerichoRally Жыл бұрын
I got my first taste of storm pipe this past week. These guys make it look easy! Good tips in here.
@Loafinbaker2 жыл бұрын
That was impressive. That site is huge!
@oldschoolhoosier2 жыл бұрын
That looks like the area just off highway 26 between Charleston and Summerville SC. Reason being, Crews were working on the area building roads for a car plant and residential growth to relieve traffic pressure off of 26. I lived in that area for 5 years before moving back to Indiana and they were working on that stretch all that time which says they don’t get in a hurry in the south…..lol. Great Video
@davidkettell57262 жыл бұрын
Great part of the country , i played a lot of golf down there twenty years ago . Hotter than hell in the spring for us yankees.
@Todd.Roberts2 жыл бұрын
Back when wake forest middle school was being built I worked with a company we laid 575 ft. Of 24 inch drain pipe in the middle of the hot summer time with no shade around
@dcrfire2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it’s amazing we noticed that the two guys with the hard hats are out of the ditch and hazard area but those in the ditch and hazard area have on the baseball hats!
@donbraden85332 жыл бұрын
That is a massive job site thanks for the video Chris
@keithdunlap27012 жыл бұрын
That had it going on there didn't they..lolol... They was shittin' an gettin' it !! Hell of a system !! You been all over Chris, down at the auctions, hanging with Charlie's crew, and DP !! Man, I'm starting to think you never get any sleep Chris !! lolol... Alright, enough playing around here, time to get back to work on your own jobs...lol... Great as always Man !! Have a Great Evening, and, On too the Next !!
@fartzinacan2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the groundwater is typically high around here. I don't often have to dig more than a foot or two before hitting groundwater. Especially during the spring and summer.
@SottileTD2 жыл бұрын
Great thing is when I was setting posts in my back yard I only needed the concrete! Ha!
@ryan_the_overlord Жыл бұрын
Always love to see another man laying pipe 👍🏻🙌🏻💪🏻
@EldineroJay_Fx7 ай бұрын
Ayo?
@njonebale78892 жыл бұрын
pipe laser is the best tool just line up your points and set your percent and it’s a no brainer, gives you your drop and keeps everything straight, couple good guys in the trench and you can bang out some pipe quick, great video.
@keviningles55808 ай бұрын
I love the operator not taking the signals
@cdnaudioguy2 жыл бұрын
Those guys have a system! nice!
@craigwavra34952 жыл бұрын
Like these little tour videos.
@jonlowe87272 жыл бұрын
Some damn good crew on the pipes man. Them boys will be well paid 👌
@omgitzzyou12 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting to use a storm drain system as a French drain as well. Guess it makes sense with a high water table, but don’t think I’ve ever seen that set up in Maryland, especially wrapping every joint.
@mjcox34102 жыл бұрын
Here in Souther Cali we grout every joint from the inside unless it comes with a specific rubber that makes it water tight
@reedburke77622 жыл бұрын
Things have changed since I was doing this.This size pipe was a three man job:: operator, pipe layer and top man. Of course no lasers or wide ditches either and then infiltration test. Looks like a great improvement over the 60s! Thank goodness.
@aaronmoore55522 жыл бұрын
Most people still run 3 people like you said. Bank man, pipe layer, and operator. Some people that do 4 have a guy that backfills and packs the ditch. He’s got a high water table probably needs extra help running pumps or whatever.
@joediffy43492 жыл бұрын
Also as a guy who’s been in the ditch using a target that would later be check by remote control car a good operator makes such a difference and thankfully guy digging for me was awesome and kept me safe we put 1600 feet of 18” storm sewer in and some place were at 12-15 feet deep felt like I had my own ac system keeping me cool in the ditch
@kens.37292 жыл бұрын
This Team works Great together and you obviously have to put Trust in your Crew. They work Safely and Efficiently. 👍
@mischef182 жыл бұрын
Made for good viewing bro. Safe travels
@TravisM01432 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head Chris. That's what happens when you get an engineer involved. PRICELESS!
@buckhorncortez2 жыл бұрын
A good engineer just gives performance criteria that have to be met and not a prescription on how to do it. The contractor is responsible for how it gets done, the engineer is responsible for what gets done. I did this kind of work for 35 years, and never told a contractor how to do something unless they were intentionally playing stupid fishing for a change order. Then I would tell them exactly how to do it and made sure it cost them additional money for being stupid.
@TravisM01432 жыл бұрын
@@buckhorncortez I like the reply and yes your are right, but I also work with engineers every day and I think the majority of them got their degree form a cracker jacks box. Also I'm not a contractor, I work in manufacturing that builds the equipment that you guys use. Its a similar process, just a different environment.
@patzeuner83852 жыл бұрын
@@TravisM0143 talk to the designers, they do the work and the engineer takes the credit. Worked with one engineer (EIT) that I doubt ever went to class, got to college on a football scholarship, couldn't even spell.
@TravisM01432 жыл бұрын
@@patzeuner8385 Our designers are even worse, but maybe that's because we have to work deal with them all the time. I'm and tool and die maker and have to fix their crap every day. All of our current designers came from the floor as some sort of and ME position.
@derrickpettit34892 жыл бұрын
Man I think they've done that a few times, freakin fast, thanks for sharing Chris, that was cool
@stephena23902 жыл бұрын
I love how you two are wearing hardhats but not the guys in the hole with an excavator and concrete pipe flying overhead. 😂
@TheWilber092 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't do any good anyway.
@billfenner70842 жыл бұрын
Well every little bit would help.
@jefferyyoung68362 жыл бұрын
Most trench men don’t wear hardhats because every time they bend over to look in the pipe it falls off.
@jaytee81882 жыл бұрын
I expect they haven’t invented chin straps there.
@dans_Learning_Curve2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWilber09 a hardhat might keep a bolt from hitting your head. A concrete pipe, NOPE!
@g.prince6265 Жыл бұрын
OSHA would love to see those banks.if it caves in it's over son!!!
@r1mein542 жыл бұрын
Did Charlie help you get access to this project?, glad you and DP could show us how stormwater drain pipes go in. MSHA would not allow workers down there without shoring but we know that is South Carolina.
@TheXxneowolfxX2 жыл бұрын
OSHA. MSHA is for mining.
@mfreund154482 жыл бұрын
If the depth is less than 5’, and the soils are judged stabile, a trench box is not required.
@danbaker10142 жыл бұрын
If you look closely, the trench is over 10' wide and benched.
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_882 жыл бұрын
@@danbaker1014 even if that's class a soil they don't have a 5 to 4 bench. And that spoil is right on top of them. Width doesn't mean a thing. If the wall is over five feet it needs some type of shoring.
@rustysteel87142 жыл бұрын
@@mfreund15448 ....and hope you have a good "judge"? 🙏😉
@andysukosd81772 жыл бұрын
Great video guy’s, love watching.
@wb8ujb2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting procedure. Thanks Chris
@travismarett71002 жыл бұрын
I have done MSD sewer line before with a pipe laser. It's neat how that works but the light test and mandrel test is where it can really get you. The light test is a light at one end of the pipe and checking for a perfect circle of light on the other end. The mandrel is a long piece of pipe that they pull thru the inside of the pipe you laid to make sure it's full round and you haven't had a pipe crush or drop off the bell of another.
@GlobalistJuice2 жыл бұрын
Smoooooooth operation!👍
@dadajackyo2 жыл бұрын
Talk about well oiled machine... damn. Those three guys could keep the world turning for a long time. That Deere was putting in some work too. I know you have a Volvo fetish Chris, but the American makers have decent offerings as well. Good stuff.
@rondastump89302 жыл бұрын
Wow, learning video for sure! Really enjoyed it! Thank u!!! Blessings and stay safe!!!
@duaneayers61172 жыл бұрын
That work crew is running like a well oiled machine. Good to see because you don't see that much anymore.
@donnaflanagan66122 жыл бұрын
Great video. They looked like they were working good as a team. Only 2.5 days to do 750ft. Take care & cheers 🐨🦘🥰
@asherdie2 жыл бұрын
The rubber gasket in the joint seals the pipe. The fabric is in case the rubber was damaged during installation and is then relied on for sediment exclusion.
@fredericklininger91432 жыл бұрын
Learn something new everyday Chris. Something you might need to know down the road
@pinwizz692 жыл бұрын
Daen interesting vid Y'all. A whole Lotta pipe put in and those guys sure look small in that hole. The excavator operator sure looks like he was trained by Chris. Thanks for finishing off my Sunday night before it's lights out for me.
@nickchannel53642 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Charleston Chris. I live here.
@LLImprovement2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to be able to play in the dirt again. Construction season is still a few months away for us.
@billmcgovern64792 жыл бұрын
Admittedly, I know nothing about this type of operation. I am surprised that I see only the boss folks wearing hard hats. I guess it's a personal choice type of think. I can imagine NC heat and hard hats don't mix well. One tickle from that shovel or a pipe could crack a skull, though. The trench guys seem to be real good at staying out of the swing path of the shovel, but if they weren't they wouldn't be there long. Very interesting operation. Such a great channel!
@Losttoanyreason2 жыл бұрын
That is one huge operation.
@jdelbrid2 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Was wondering what the tolerance is for laying storm drainage. I assume it is not as stringent as sewer pipe. Did this type of work in the early 70's and, because we had to dig up and redo a considerable amount of sewer pipe, that particular requirement stuck with me. I was a laborer not an operator.
@richardtomasetti84012 жыл бұрын
Amazing all the things I learn by watching this channel. Only 2 min in and my desire to get a skid steer increases. Only because used mini excavators still cost 40k+ unless it was fire damaged.
@TheWolfster0012 жыл бұрын
That was awesome.. Thank you for sharing..
@timtraver71522 жыл бұрын
Those pipe guys are hustling, no slacking there!
@perrywarner75672 жыл бұрын
Chris , you are one hell of a operator, love watching all that you do !!!!!
@ron8272 жыл бұрын
That last stub of pipe at the box was an amazing fit.
@patzeuner83852 жыл бұрын
You cut and set the stub into the box prior to setting the last full section. That usually gives you between 18 to 36 inch gap to be able to slide the stub into the last full section.
@KB-gs8zi2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris & Mike !! It's always an ""ADVENTURE "" when you 2 get together !!! HAHA Have a good week & ON to the ""BETTY "" & her boyfriend ""ADVENTURE ""!!
@dawnbradrick62892 жыл бұрын
Dawns here ☀️
@heatherlane92702 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the extent of development to meet population movement and living. Interesting how ground water can pass into the pipes. Good lunch break entertainment on way south.
@pullingstars2 жыл бұрын
Did he mean 3% fall not 30%? 30% in a 100ft would be 30ft of fall. Or am I missing something?
@natedoerfler6522 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought??
@marcryvon2 жыл бұрын
In Canada too. The site would be closed real fast.
@cree54332 жыл бұрын
3% is 3 feet per hundred. You are correct. 30% would be 30’ per hundred.
@mitchrapp25562 жыл бұрын
Has to be 3%
@justinfufun54832 жыл бұрын
@@marcryvon Ireland too. In fact this is typical of the sort of video they show at a safe pass or machine operators crane operators course general operative. How many violations are there. How should this be done. Can you flag the hazards. How would you improve this work place.
@hughe292 жыл бұрын
Smart and on the ball team, no dumbo here.
@thomasyerbey3372 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris 🇺🇲
@g.prince626511 ай бұрын
I was slamming that good 24" rcp in the ground today,carry on boyz🤘
@dignation2162 жыл бұрын
See that's what I'm talking about , that's my line of work , great video man
@davestuart65932 жыл бұрын
Love watching you guys doing vidgas!
@markbrown62362 жыл бұрын
Had to double check which channel I was on when I saw the John Deere excavator. Then it became apparent you were just a camera man that day. Good to see that shirt on that operator.
@kevinkenyon70452 жыл бұрын
Chris thanks for sharing! Kevin
@kennethhume86282 жыл бұрын
Excellent video , extremely interesting . 👍👍🇬🇧
@davidkettell57262 жыл бұрын
Lets remember this is not a union contractor (thank god) that is how work gets finished . I have no doubt that these guys get paid by results not just for showing up drunk. You can tell just by watching that these guys are a well oiled machine that does this job day after day.
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_882 жыл бұрын
What's wrong, can't get over being turned down by your local union? I was a pipe fitter for years. Nothing wrong with a union. Just smear campaigns from large corporations trying to wringout every dime they can.
@Gen3tx2 жыл бұрын
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 he’d probably gets nervous about getting fired if he doesn’t do something unsafe so his boss could make a dollar faster or he’s bitter about his lack of good retirement funds
@paulnelson99072 жыл бұрын
We could never do that here. Chicago area we would need 12" of stone under the pipe and cover the pipe to the spring line with gravel and going that wide would be expensive. Use of a trench box would be needed so excavation would be reduced.
@Shane_Reynolds852 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't;t that just make it all a French drain at that point?
@patzeuner83852 жыл бұрын
@@Shane_Reynolds85 yeah, all they are missing are the holes in the pipe and the marafi fabric. Another, that really has no construction experience except from a chair.
@Shane_Reynolds852 жыл бұрын
@@patzeuner8385 I’ve seen a lot of people claim Chris should be packing his overflow pipes in gravel too. I mean, I’m not construction expert at all, but realize how water moves.
@paulnelson99072 жыл бұрын
@@Shane_Reynolds85 No it's needed to support the pipe, do to deep frost we get you don't want frozen drainage due to broken concrete pipe in roadways.
@patzeuner83852 жыл бұрын
@@Shane_Reynolds85 if Chris put gravel/stone around his over flow pipes then there would be way for the water to undercut to pipe. Which would wash out the overflow and probably destroy the dam. He packs down clay around the pipe which expands when damp, therefore eliminating any kind of under cut by water passing along the pipe. It's called knowing the soil type and using it correctly.
@timmyfrierson26842 жыл бұрын
Another great video Chris that was my job for the last 15 years that I worked, laying pipe and to tell you the truth I hated it it was the most boring job on the whole site but my boss paid me damn good money per hour to set up an excavator and dig that trench and put that pipe In it.
@jcgoogle18082 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of Safety Karen comments about trench safety. OSHA requires protection (1 to 1 slopes or benching) for trenches deeper than 5'. In the beginning it looks like it's much deeper, but the guys are standing in an 18" or so step down. And there is benching. From this angle 11:55 judging by the width of the 24" pipe, the trench to the first bench is around 5 ft. The only thing I see is the spoils pile may not be 2 ft from the edge of the trench. And the guys not wearing hard hats. It's also not a 30% slope. It's 3%. Like others have said, we usually bed our storm pipe in 3/4" gravel and cover the entire top of the embedment & pipe with filter fabric. Gasketed joints not required.
@donnamullins20892 жыл бұрын
720 feet of drain pipe. Wow that Deere was moving. Thanks Chris.
@jonathanlanglois27422 жыл бұрын
Not used to seeing holes quite that deep and narrow on your channel. We dig a lot of those in Canada since our frost line somewhere between 4 and 6 foot depending on the area.
@maxsanchez74799 ай бұрын
I like how you hold the bucket on top of the guys head to give them some shade,😅😅😅
@Tom-fs4oo2 жыл бұрын
Good job. Hate setting open joint. My co safety guy wouldn’t let us get away with that ditch though
@Manoffire2602 жыл бұрын
Whole different set of safety rules here. Hard to believe it’s the same country.
@GARDENER422 жыл бұрын
UK elfin safety lot would be in a tailspin...
@941haggisbasher2 жыл бұрын
It’s all good until the spoils fall back into the hole trapping someone. No bench sloping or keeping the spoils 2’+ away from edge of excavation…?
@richardschipper59892 жыл бұрын
@@941haggisbasher what are you talking about, it was benched and the spoils was as far as the machine could throw it
@warrenjohnknight.98312 жыл бұрын
PS, But then again I wasn't always a safe worker neither whoops, as a fleet technician for Bridgestone commercial I would be out on the highways every day and night changing truck tyres with the traffic speeding past me only inches away and believe me it's frightening in the worse type 😠. Now retired and watching Chris and many other things on KZbin, building my first train set in 60 years ha ha ha. 😆.
@lt1nut2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that statement: on the I (Chi-Milw corridor), winching a car onto the rollback, left break-down "lane" up against a 3' concrete wall, pitch black, wet-shiny asphalt, drizzle/light rain,
@annafraley53882 жыл бұрын
Never did like Big jobs, State jobs the went on Forever, much prefer the size jobs you normally do, Chris.!! ✅
@patzeuner83852 жыл бұрын
In other words government or union jobs. Not private contractors.
@jeffdymarczyk44132 жыл бұрын
Paid by the foot$$$ Not stock and time.!!Good work
@russellrankin79802 жыл бұрын
Just needed uncle John there and you bee all set. 😆
@billfenner70842 жыл бұрын
The OSHA inspector was on lunch. I like the hard hat usage
@dans_Learning_Curve2 жыл бұрын
This crew is a well oiled machine!
@NHHalKnowsHow2 жыл бұрын
Chris, isn't a 30% grade in 100' a 30' drop? I think they are working on a 3% drop aren't they?
@jackwells14522 жыл бұрын
Where I live they have irrigation pipe that is so old it's made from wood, sort of like barrel stays, the reason I know this my boss at the time busted one with a backhoe