LBC caller tells James O'Brien: ‘Don’t call them liars’

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9 ай бұрын

"Calling someone a liar is a serious accusation."
Aidan phones in to take issue with James O'Brien and the RSPB's assertion that Conservative ministers have 'lied' about their promise not to weaken environmental protections. Lying assumes intent, Aidan argues. James, meanwhile, is quite happy to 'call someone who lies a liar'.
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@kate4ever1
@kate4ever1 9 ай бұрын
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this. This caller is why we have these corrupt fools in power.
@bluegold21
@bluegold21 9 ай бұрын
Tbf he is more like a symptom of the Tories.
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
@bluegold....ok...I'll give you a like..now you can go to bed...😊
@wezzman1
@wezzman1 9 ай бұрын
Its a conservative follower thing, look at them in the US. No critical thinking skills at all.
@michaelathanasiou2030
@michaelathanasiou2030 9 ай бұрын
If you want to listen to real lies, just listen to Keir LOL
@simdencard
@simdencard 9 ай бұрын
​@@michaelathanasiou2030A lie is a lie. Common now. 😊
@Quas08
@Quas08 9 ай бұрын
Being more concerned about calling someone a liar rather than the lie itself is truly astonishing
@andrewness
@andrewness 9 ай бұрын
But sadly not uncommon among a particular class of people. It's the idea that etiquette is more important than action, promoted by public schools and certain religious groups since time immemorial.
@margaritalikethedrink1041
@margaritalikethedrink1041 9 ай бұрын
I have a gaslighting abusive parent and they will scream at me for calling them a liar and try to create a fight out of that to deflect from the lie itself
@80sChick80s
@80sChick80s 9 ай бұрын
There's a brain block, it's called the ego.
@jeffc5974
@jeffc5974 9 ай бұрын
That's what they have to resort to when they know that their position is horrible and can't argue the actual position.
@younghanrahan
@younghanrahan 9 ай бұрын
More concerned about calling someone a liar than the lie itself. The English are the only nation in the world who could manage this.
@filofteia1
@filofteia1 9 ай бұрын
It hurts my brain trying to comprehend the mental gymnastics we are asked to do to excuse some liars
@inthebellyofmoby
@inthebellyofmoby 9 ай бұрын
He's going for gold 😂😂😂
@henrytawnn8694
@henrytawnn8694 9 ай бұрын
The literal definition of "liar" is: A person who tells lies. They lied. They're liars. Caller: "Well, not necessarily!"
@whatwelearned
@whatwelearned 9 ай бұрын
This guy needs to understand that the government ACTING in bad faith is VERY MUCH WORSE than calling them liars
@Self-reflection-academy
@Self-reflection-academy 9 ай бұрын
Fco 30-1048 worth a look into. Lying is not half the issue.
@tomvu1470
@tomvu1470 9 ай бұрын
The George Constanza defense yet again: "It's not a lie if you believe it".😂
@richardmcrandal6696
@richardmcrandal6696 9 ай бұрын
Bring back Boris immediately
@fluidthought42
@fluidthought42 9 ай бұрын
​@@richardmcrandal6696 Just to dismiss him immediately afterwards as well, for a lark.
@richardmcrandal6696
@richardmcrandal6696 9 ай бұрын
@@fluidthought42 Beautiful Boris
@haseebur-rehman3218
@haseebur-rehman3218 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Translation: Don't call liars liars because it might make them seem like ... liars.
@jenniferedwards1879
@jenniferedwards1879 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 6 ай бұрын
If the cap fits......
@threetythreepercent
@threetythreepercent 9 ай бұрын
Don’t call this bank robber a “thief”, call them “someone who found themselves in a financial quandary which caused them to seek funding via less-than-legal means.”
@UnknownGamer40464
@UnknownGamer40464 9 ай бұрын
less than legal implies they did something wrong, I'm sure this caller would object.
@NateVHVT
@NateVHVT 9 ай бұрын
Don't call him a murderer; call him a "person un-aliver enthusaist."
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 6 ай бұрын
Oh yes, three blind mice = equals a number of small rodents derived of their optical capacity....
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 6 ай бұрын
@@UnknownGamer40464 Not necessarily......
@Garcian_Smith
@Garcian_Smith 9 ай бұрын
Dear Lord the mental gymnastics of this caller are beyond infuriating. How James put up with him for that long is amazing to me. 🤬🤬🤬
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 9 ай бұрын
This caller holds random commenters on twitter to a higher standard than people who are in elected office running the country! 😂
@anthonysmith8800
@anthonysmith8800 9 ай бұрын
That's the Right Wing Playbook for ya
@TheSlinkyinky
@TheSlinkyinky 9 ай бұрын
Precisely! You've nailed it 👏
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 9 ай бұрын
Totally that's it!
@snipelite94
@snipelite94 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a SNOWFLAKE ❄ who doesn't respect FREE SPEECH (when it doesn't suit him and his caste)
@stevenoneil1232
@stevenoneil1232 9 ай бұрын
Wheres the results of Goves unlawful poll on Scots independence, that he was ordered to publish by the courts? So not just a liar, but, a breaker of the law.
@135Ops
@135Ops 9 ай бұрын
Poor Aidan, I think he actually believes the Tories are well intentioned and any lies they tell are justified because they know best and he just can't accept what a massive mistake he made by voting for them.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
'i like little birds but i dont like paying tax' poor little love is confused.
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
.....did he say he did...missed that...😊
@pseudonayme7717
@pseudonayme7717 9 ай бұрын
🎯
@n.ayieko1645
@n.ayieko1645 9 ай бұрын
Once you pop that most apex exceptionalism pill, one becomes infallible to everything else, including logic and critical thought, by default. At this point, most sane people would cringe at having to face up to and eat that factual humble pie. But not me, fudge-yeah I rule!... no matter what your silly facts say!
@cleebe823
@cleebe823 9 ай бұрын
​@@chatham43 that whole conversation was a "tell me you vote conservative without directly saying it". unless he's just triggered by the word liar because of his own misdeeds.
@1574john
@1574john 9 ай бұрын
We don’t call enough politicians liars. They do act in bad faith.
@paulbeaney4901
@paulbeaney4901 9 ай бұрын
I work with a soft touch like this caller. They are scary people simply because they can justify ANYTHING with a smile. This caller is a disgrace and part of the reason these lying professional politicians get away with it. In fact, this caller disgusts me on a visceral level.
@Saje3D
@Saje3D 9 ай бұрын
The caller loves his pretense. “If you pretend hard enough, a liar isn’t actually lying.”
@Codex7777
@Codex7777 9 ай бұрын
He's effectively lying about the lying... and lying to himself most of all.
@Zakalwe76
@Zakalwe76 9 ай бұрын
It's hard to wake a sleeping man, but impossible to wake a man pretending to be asleep.
@shit__gamer
@shit__gamer 9 ай бұрын
Was James lying when he took money from the Tories to scare you about the severity of COVID and the need for vaccines? Redacts.
@jcspoon573
@jcspoon573 9 ай бұрын
If you don't LOOK at the lie, it could be true ...?
@jordinagel1184
@jordinagel1184 9 ай бұрын
@@jcspoon573I mean, that’s the thing, he KNOWS it’s a lie, he said himself that smg was promised and not given, he just refuses to label the liars as such (which, imo, is worse than believing a lie)
@tehnosan5769
@tehnosan5769 9 ай бұрын
My teacher used the term “misinformation specialist” when parents would go on a tangent of “don’t call my kid a liar” or “my kid isn’t a liar”. It made us all laugh like crazy, well all but the parent in question 😂 So maybe we should start referring to people as misinformation specialists instead of liars and it has the added bonus hat they might think its a compliment 😂
@TheQueenRulesAll
@TheQueenRulesAll 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 So many news outlets and politicians fit that definition.
@victorcaceres9603
@victorcaceres9603 9 ай бұрын
I love that description. I will add to my dictionary if you don't mind. The American system is polluted with Misinformation Specialist! Now I have another arrow in my quiver. Thank you!
@attackpatterndelta8949
@attackpatterndelta8949 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who says "My kid's not a liar" doesn't know their own child. All kids lie to avoid getting into trouble.
@john1703
@john1703 9 ай бұрын
Or, to quote Hansard: "the honourable gentleman on the opposite benches is guilty of a terminalogical inexactitude".
@sairhug
@sairhug 9 ай бұрын
@@attackpatterndelta8949 So do all adults ... particularly those in public office ... that's the problem.
@Elshonio
@Elshonio 9 ай бұрын
That caller, is the simple reason this country is where it is. And for him to say that the call is about standards in public life, but you can’t accept the fact that the government consistently lie, is beyond ridiculous
@Meatball2022
@Meatball2022 9 ай бұрын
4:43 best line ever. “What are we going to call the liar who has lied if we’re not going to call them a liar after they lie?”
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 9 ай бұрын
This is the level the Tories have dragged our country to. It makes me sad.
@haleytownsend7544
@haleytownsend7544 9 ай бұрын
It will be worse under Labour
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 9 ай бұрын
​​@@haleytownsend7544That's all people like you ever say.
@grtcara8386
@grtcara8386 9 ай бұрын
Brexiteers for you
@grtcara8386
@grtcara8386 9 ай бұрын
@@haleytownsend7544Brexiteer aren’t you
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 9 ай бұрын
Pragmatism, course-correction, and semantics vs pragmatics don't equal 'lying'
@wabbajack2
@wabbajack2 9 ай бұрын
I find myself really curious as to how this caller expected the call to go. "Can you give me an example?" "Sure. Here's an MP, they've promised not to reduce environmental protections, and then they do. What would you call them, other than 'a liar'?" "Fair enough."
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
it almost seems like satire doesnt it?
@powbobs
@powbobs 9 ай бұрын
@@kanedNunable A Monty Python sketch.
@SilverMKI
@SilverMKI 9 ай бұрын
Ironically he is lying to himself.
@JayTG123
@JayTG123 9 ай бұрын
“What are we going to call the liar, who has lied, if we’re not going to call them a liar, after they lie.” 😂 the guy on the phone is an absolute spanner 🔧
@pattibramley3911
@pattibramley3911 9 ай бұрын
There’s nothing else you can call someone who lies but a liar!!
@moniqueengleman873
@moniqueengleman873 9 ай бұрын
They earned that title. But it is funny that they don't want to call out the NON TRUTH TELLERS..... seems a bit wack
@patriciamcclanahan2114
@patriciamcclanahan2114 9 ай бұрын
Obituary, liar lol believes there own lies
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 9 ай бұрын
This guy 😂. “They lied but arent liars!”
@ravd8082
@ravd8082 9 ай бұрын
Tories have trashed this country
@michaelredford5389
@michaelredford5389 9 ай бұрын
Meaning that this gentleman has been accused of being a liar at some point and doesn't think he is. (so clearly justifying it on national radio is the sensible thing to do.) What did he think he was doing 🤣 , trying to defend this.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 9 ай бұрын
@@ravd8082 yeah they have, it baffles me why he thinks they didnt act in bad faith when literally nearly every decision they have made since they took power has made the country actively worse, and people told them before it would. Its not like they didnt know theres negative consequences, it just didnt effect them so they didnt care.
@MrMessiah44
@MrMessiah44 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but stop small boats.
@SOBNo1
@SOBNo1 9 ай бұрын
Caller is correct. Narcissistic doesn't equal narcissist
@CartoonrBOY
@CartoonrBOY 9 ай бұрын
What he wanted to say: "In the realm of untruths and fabrications, our protagonist skillfully wove a tapestry of fanciful narratives, concealing the veracity of their words beneath a veneer of eloquence and artifice. With an air of utmost conviction, they embarked upon a symphony of deceptions, each uttered syllable a meticulously crafted note in a melodious composition of falsehoods. Their disingenuous discourse, adorned with embellishments and adorned with the finest ornaments of deceit, left those in their presence ensnared in the beguiling labyrinth of their untruths, forever captivated by the charm of their mendacity."
@ryanreedgibson
@ryanreedgibson 9 ай бұрын
That is beautiful. You a writer? Looking for work?
@markscott4420
@markscott4420 9 ай бұрын
Yeh!! what you said. Lol
@josefschiltz2192
@josefschiltz2192 9 ай бұрын
Hacker: "Um . . . . . . Sorry??" Bernard: What he said was " In the realm of untruths and fabrications, our protagonist skillfully wove a tapestry of fanciful narratives, concealing the veracity of their words . . . " Hacker: "Yes, I know what he said! What did it mean??"
@bone0944
@bone0944 9 ай бұрын
I wish I had your eloquence. A perfectly worded piece suggesting what the caller wanted to say.
@adevwco7013
@adevwco7013 9 ай бұрын
Sir Humphrey is back ;)
@carolspencer6915
@carolspencer6915 9 ай бұрын
Incredible really. After forty-nine years I despair with regards peoples difficulty with truth. Thankyou James for the work you do. 💜
@royfearn4345
@royfearn4345 9 ай бұрын
The only thing more infuriating than a liar is a fool who will not call a liar a liar. End of.
@redeyegooner
@redeyegooner 9 ай бұрын
You can't call someone a liar in the House of Commons, even if they have lied. If you do, you will be removed, so that the liar may continue to function.
@chrissilver7719
@chrissilver7719 9 ай бұрын
But you can ask a question is the PM a liar ? The only place where lying is protected.
@jimmychonga5054
@jimmychonga5054 9 ай бұрын
THAT makes sense./s
@tomtheeagle1
@tomtheeagle1 9 ай бұрын
A rule made when MPs had swords on their sides. The accusation in that era would almost certainly result in some kind of a duel, a demand for "satisfaction" or, if not forthcoming, a full and public apology. That hardly applies these days so the rule should be changed.
@ecaeas4439
@ecaeas4439 9 ай бұрын
In some ways, the idea of not being able to call another politician a liar in the house of commons makes sense, because it muddies the waters and as per how both government ministers brief the HOC and individual MPs make statements in the house, the facts and figures covering in a statement to the house are usually looked over by under-secretaries or chiefs of staff/ SPADs. The best way of sorting out a situation where a figure is botched or incorrect is to assume no ill-intent and request that people correct whatever was briefed incorrectly ASAP. What's new with the current lot (Bodger before he went, Rees-Mogg, Coffey, and many others) is that they'd just come out with whatever they thought up on the spot or what people with no morals like cummings advising them told them would be politically savvy to say, even if a complete lie. It fits in with James O'brien saying how these people In power have broken the system because the limited system of checks and balances couldn't possibly contain them - if the system has tried to hold them accountable, they'd just bend it to their will. That's when calling them liars has become appropriate and more than reasonable.
@tomtheeagle1
@tomtheeagle1 9 ай бұрын
@@chrissilver7719 You can't use that word at all!
@Lynn.hot.legs.peters
@Lynn.hot.legs.peters 9 ай бұрын
A Lie is a Lie ... no matter how you look at it !
@jasonking1284
@jasonking1284 9 ай бұрын
Not really... some lies are only.. untruths....
@curtisalex456
@curtisalex456 9 ай бұрын
@@jasonking1284 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@migsg7238
@migsg7238 9 ай бұрын
Things to call someone who has broken a promise; Unreliable - Someone who cannot reliably be expected to keep said promise Reneger - Someone who just changes their mind and reneges on the promise Liar - Someone who made a promise with no intentions of keeping it One of these is true in this case....none are things I would like any government to be. Go on Tories, take your pick.
@UnknownGamer40464
@UnknownGamer40464 9 ай бұрын
in fact, at least two of these seem to be true
@chrisflateau1035
@chrisflateau1035 9 ай бұрын
That caller`s logic had me crying with laughter and the fact he couldn`t admit he was wrong even more so.
@allanmckeown5943
@allanmckeown5943 9 ай бұрын
They've demonstrated 13 years of inconsistentcy. When will these people stop defending the indefensible?!
@1gerard47
@1gerard47 9 ай бұрын
Ooh ooh ooh ooh false gods,.
@iangascoigne8231
@iangascoigne8231 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they won’t.
@bluegold21
@bluegold21 9 ай бұрын
Cut off their big-oil allowances and they will quickly scarper back into their mouse holes.
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex 9 ай бұрын
Never
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
....the disastrous lockdown being a prime example...totally agree...
@LydiaPlays
@LydiaPlays 9 ай бұрын
I was listening to this when driving, I nearly crashed the car due to the Caller’s ineptitude
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
....which part of North London were you driving through...?😊
@geoffbucks5803
@geoffbucks5803 9 ай бұрын
Its entirely due to people like this caller into LBC that the Country has been landed with Tories for the last 13+ years. People who cant accept the their politician, parliament and Ministers have lied, deceived and u-turned on about every policy or pledge made to us. They are blinkered, and what surprises me most is that they will defend all these lies. any moral society would not tolerate these lies and would rebel or invoke some form of reaction to remove it rather than condoning it
@hughneil7212
@hughneil7212 9 ай бұрын
No, if you had crashed, it would have been due to your own ineptitude.
@michellsmith4693
@michellsmith4693 9 ай бұрын
This person on the phone, NEVER admits he is wrong.
@wilfullness
@wilfullness 9 ай бұрын
They are liars. And they know it. To still think not is dysfunctional.
@DiscoMood
@DiscoMood 9 ай бұрын
I wish James O'Brien was in the US. Talk about making someone squirm. What a master at breaking down BS.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 9 ай бұрын
In my town that's a cutthroat interviewer
@col.hertford9855
@col.hertford9855 9 ай бұрын
You have John Stewart, he’s pretty great and telling liars they are liars to their face too!
@taras6806
@taras6806 9 ай бұрын
Sorry but we need him here in the Uk!
@DavidBennell
@DavidBennell 9 ай бұрын
Both James O'Brien and John Stewart are great at great at breaking down BS which is great to see, but we are in a ocean of BS with most of our politicians BS'ing their way though life every day of the week, all day long.
@jackabalas
@jackabalas 9 ай бұрын
@@col.hertford9855i think you mean John Stewart. James Stewart was an actor and is dead but he had Its A Wonderful Life
@taras6806
@taras6806 9 ай бұрын
To defend Tories against lying generally would take a certain quality of ignorance.
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
....against any party I'm sure you would agree...😊
@taras6806
@taras6806 9 ай бұрын
@@chatham43 Regretfully as regrettably, yes, I could not disagree.
@jake751
@jake751 9 ай бұрын
Tory and Labour
@taras6806
@taras6806 9 ай бұрын
@@jake751 at minimum.
@MrSatnavatron
@MrSatnavatron 9 ай бұрын
@@jake751 Last honest Party leader was Corbyn and look at how he was treated by the mainstream
@trevorhenriques7733
@trevorhenriques7733 9 ай бұрын
Imagine twisting yourself into a pretzel in order to try to not impugn the character of those who by own actions have proven time and time again that they have none. Forget trying the verbal gymnastics, they ARE LIARS !
@rolybling
@rolybling 9 ай бұрын
So when is it ok to use the word liar? Ridiculous man.
@richardpoynter1502
@richardpoynter1502 9 ай бұрын
It's like listening to a cheated on and beaten spouse say they love the person who's lied to and beaten them for 13 years.
@snoopy_peanuts_77
@snoopy_peanuts_77 9 ай бұрын
and have more concern for the people that pointed it out to them
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 9 ай бұрын
We’ll done RSPB 👊
@ab-js2gw
@ab-js2gw 9 ай бұрын
Stockholm syndrome, a literal description of the British public at this current time.
@2010perc
@2010perc 9 ай бұрын
Caller knows he has lost the argument and is just going all in😂
@matthewprince9705
@matthewprince9705 9 ай бұрын
All of his chips are on table 🎲 🃏No backing down now 😅
@corcaightowner8881
@corcaightowner8881 9 ай бұрын
One who lies is a liar. There is no other definition.
@SOBNo1
@SOBNo1 9 ай бұрын
One who is narcissistic may not a narcissist. So you're wrong
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
...brilliant...that dictionary wasn't wasted...😊
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
....even when he's lieing about being a liar..?
@magnificentbastard5085
@magnificentbastard5085 9 ай бұрын
@@SOBNo1 Classic misinformation there. Provide an example that appears to be a parallel but actually isn’t. You are using “narcissistic” and “narcissist”, which are both descriptors of a person. By comparison the op is using “liar” and “tells lies”. “Liar” is also a descriptor of a person, but “tells lies” is not. That’s the behaviour that earns that person that descriptor.
@IMelkor42
@IMelkor42 9 ай бұрын
Can you define what a lie is, though? Many people seem to not know what it actually means... (I think the conservatives lie about probably just about everything, including this climate issue, btw)
@rasjudah8584
@rasjudah8584 9 ай бұрын
Truth is dying with ever word out this caller mouth WOW
@hughneil7212
@hughneil7212 9 ай бұрын
I remember being told that worst lies are the ones you tell yourself, the caller may very well be going a long way to proving that to be true.
@lovepeace4065
@lovepeace4065 9 ай бұрын
I was driving and listening to the man who found saying the word ‘liar’ extremely extremely difficult. I don’t think he was ever taught this word that’s my explanation. Even my French bulldog was rolling in my car seat laughing. James was mega polite don’t know how he does it!!!!
@elfboy29
@elfboy29 9 ай бұрын
He's a master at exposing just how confused many very ernest people are.
@BardianAngel
@BardianAngel 9 ай бұрын
It's baffling that he's so resistant to the word liar to describe someone who lied.
@har3036
@har3036 9 ай бұрын
Yes, but you might hurt the liar's feelings by calling him out.
@jerrimenard3092
@jerrimenard3092 9 ай бұрын
Often the smeller is the feller. He can't seem to tell the truth either.
@andrewness
@andrewness 9 ай бұрын
Just not cricket, old boy
@truthgiver8286
@truthgiver8286 9 ай бұрын
They are portrayers of untruths but liar is concise and hits the nail on the head.
@johnmccombe6342
@johnmccombe6342 9 ай бұрын
You are awesome Mr. O'Brien!!!! Wish we had more media people like you here in America! Keep up the amazing work.
@Cefshah
@Cefshah 9 ай бұрын
The problem with not calling out LIES 'directly'... is that they can/do germinate into things much worse.
@michaelspencer6171
@michaelspencer6171 9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@martynjones8560
@martynjones8560 9 ай бұрын
This guy is definitely Rees-Mogg's scriptwriter.
@Wiley_Coyote
@Wiley_Coyote 9 ай бұрын
Someone needs to revive Monty Python to parody this. This kind of ludicrous pretense that vague notions of manners are more important than calling out lying is that prehistoric.
@eoinoconnor5783
@eoinoconnor5783 9 ай бұрын
“I ain’t callin’ you a truther” - Josh Nichols
@nevarran
@nevarran 9 ай бұрын
After the American conservatives introduced us to the concept of "alternative facts", the British conservatives are introducing the concept of calling lying "doing something that's not consistent with what you said you will do" :)
@JDawgstwothousand
@JDawgstwothousand 9 ай бұрын
Stop blaming America for all of your ills - it’s just lazy. British people and it’a government have been lying before the United States was even established.
@MrPlannery
@MrPlannery 9 ай бұрын
The old fashioned politician strategy of dodging questions and speaking vaguely has now been essentially replaced with bare-faced lying. Then you also get a few dozen fake Twitter accounts to disseminate those lies and muddy the waters. Job done. Much easier than effective policymaking.
@martinnorman2579
@martinnorman2579 9 ай бұрын
Labour have done similar with facts
@bluegold21
@bluegold21 9 ай бұрын
@@martinnorman2579Labour hasn't been in power for 13 years. Try another one, Nadine.
@simonparfitt8
@simonparfitt8 9 ай бұрын
@@martinnorman2579another American habit ! Whataboutisam
@kat2023.
@kat2023. 9 ай бұрын
They are liars. End of.
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
....so they lied....and not just failed...?
@kat2023.
@kat2023. 9 ай бұрын
@chatham43 I've replied to you 3 times, but KZbin has decided in its ridiculousness to remove my comments. Last try before I cancel my subscription... The Tories have both lied and failed. One begets the other.
@DaChaGee
@DaChaGee 9 ай бұрын
These people have a right to vote!
@Nick-xf5hr
@Nick-xf5hr 9 ай бұрын
Let’s make a law that says your allowed to call individual Tory MP’s liars. Even though they are liars.
@razorednight
@razorednight 9 ай бұрын
It's harsh to call people liars just because they're consciously telling you untrue things in order to deceive you.
@marco12377
@marco12377 9 ай бұрын
This is what decades of propaganda, designed by liars have done to peoples brains. It has convinced them to defend outright crimes, for the purposes of exploiting people just like this caller. Imagine if someone broke into your house and stole everything, and then you defend the burglar because the burglar has somehow convinced you that pointing out the crime is somehow worse than the crime itself...
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 6 ай бұрын
It might well be, but I'd give it a go personally.....
@nicholasjames6763
@nicholasjames6763 9 ай бұрын
Imagine living next door to that caller
@aidans34
@aidans34 9 ай бұрын
We do live next door. I watch you coming out of the shower most nights
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
i get the idea he lives in a mansion so you wouldnt see him much ;)
@nicholasjames6763
@nicholasjames6763 9 ай бұрын
@aidans34 cheeky torie no pictures please
@SOBNo1
@SOBNo1 9 ай бұрын
​@@aidans34😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dawggonevidz9140
@dawggonevidz9140 9 ай бұрын
My rose garden would be thriving after he joined the french foreign legion or something I don't know all I know is he isn't living there any more.
@kevinbyrne5265
@kevinbyrne5265 9 ай бұрын
They said Brexit would be great for Britain and especially Johnson and Sunak, are they liars?
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
clearly yes.
@stefanc4520
@stefanc4520 9 ай бұрын
Group identity is literally holding us back as a species! 😢
@dfishpool7052
@dfishpool7052 9 ай бұрын
Critical thinking doesn't seem to be one of the tools in Aidan's toolbox! The more I listen to him the more I think he is a pratt!
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 9 ай бұрын
let use be fair to other pratts, he is a maga pratt
@starmersbarber
@starmersbarber 9 ай бұрын
I think you're being kind to this person. His lapsing into aggression (his soft voice mask slipping) gives the game away to me. He comes across particularly arrogant as well.
@vivburgess4300
@vivburgess4300 9 ай бұрын
I love the way James manages to call the government and Gove liars over and over while giving the caller every chance to offer another word. Right on, James. Someone needs to call government out and those who choose to cover for them.
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 9 ай бұрын
Pragmatism, course-correction, and semantics vs pragmatics don't equal 'lying'
@machidaman
@machidaman 9 ай бұрын
​@@adarkimpuritysemantics.
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 9 ай бұрын
@@machidaman You're learning a new word, eh?
@jamesmaybrick2001
@jamesmaybrick2001 9 ай бұрын
@@adarkimpurity New word? try quisling, you might fight it illuminating.
@cupguin
@cupguin 9 ай бұрын
​@@adarkimpurity So they said that they weren't going to weaken environmental protections and they are. Would you call that honest?
@johnproton259
@johnproton259 9 ай бұрын
When people are more worried about politeness than people lying to them to their detriment.
@garyriley5236
@garyriley5236 9 ай бұрын
Well done James. Wonderfully tied him up in his own words.
@deepaulie8701
@deepaulie8701 9 ай бұрын
I love how definitive James is, I am old enough to have seen how over the past thirty years how people have become accustomed and indoctrinated to accept spin.
@notjustforhackers4252
@notjustforhackers4252 9 ай бұрын
About the same sort of time the UK was in the political union, funny right.
@adambinnie1332
@adambinnie1332 9 ай бұрын
Never leaves the comfort of his studio and just moans all the time - the would-be activists he is!
@thelaurels13
@thelaurels13 9 ай бұрын
@@adambinnie1332 “never leaves the comfort of his studio” yep, that’s literally his job! Give your head a shake!
@audreymcgready4329
@audreymcgready4329 9 ай бұрын
@@adambinnie1332 Oh dear.
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 9 ай бұрын
​@@notjustforhackers4252?
@andygillett9999
@andygillett9999 9 ай бұрын
What a waffler……he will definitely stand for the Conservative Party at some point in his life and no doubt get elected somewhere. Oh dear!!!
@chatham43
@chatham43 9 ай бұрын
...or any other party...totally agree!
@luluk3340
@luluk3340 9 ай бұрын
He probably already has
@hughurquhart4917
@hughurquhart4917 9 ай бұрын
A future Tory Prime Minister ..........🤩
@kikidevine694
@kikidevine694 9 ай бұрын
He's probably a Tory party activist
@TheWolfe83
@TheWolfe83 9 ай бұрын
I wish I had the ability to hold these people accountable through conversation the way James does
@wendykrahn6345
@wendykrahn6345 9 ай бұрын
James is absolutely right on this. DO NOT back down from calling people out directly for their behaviour. LIARS can't stand to be actually called out for LYING, and now everybody is at fault for calling them LIARS??? Everyone complains about everyone being too PC until you call a LIAR a LIAR and then suddenly we should find a nicer way to say it so we don't hurt their feelings or their reputation. You can't have it both ways. The hypocrisy is beyond belief. Again, I believe it is very important to see consequences when you lie/mislead people, especially when you do it knowingly.
@theother1281
@theother1281 9 ай бұрын
You could replace 'liar' with 'betrayer' as he betrayed his own words and the public he gave that assurance to.
@RankinMsP
@RankinMsP 9 ай бұрын
Betrayer gives the impression of some grand scheme whereby he had to jump through hoops and intellectually deceive. He lied. Also see Brexit.
@ameliecarre4783
@ameliecarre4783 9 ай бұрын
That's more accurate, actually. Unless there's evidence of the lie. Which is possible, they feel so untouchable that they don't mind admitting their crimes in writing or on video these days.
@atifarohman3342
@atifarohman3342 9 ай бұрын
The caller has a lot of time on his hands, wish he'd come over to mine and help me with my housework instead of prattling on 🤣
@taras6806
@taras6806 9 ай бұрын
Smiles! May I be second in the queue?
@Knappa22
@Knappa22 9 ай бұрын
None of it would get done. He’d try to persuade you that work carried out in the house isn’t called housework. A rigorous investigation needs to be carried out first to see if work would be involved and whether your dwelling can be termed a ‘house’.
@tonynorman-el9tb
@tonynorman-el9tb 9 ай бұрын
​@@Knappa22hahahahahaha
@jasonking1284
@jasonking1284 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully you would have some headphones to block out that prattling you would otherwise have to endure whilst being helped with the housework.
@atifarohman3342
@atifarohman3342 9 ай бұрын
@@Knappa22 got it in one! 🤣🤣🤣
@cenninbach
@cenninbach 9 ай бұрын
Thank you James
@bryanreeme8584
@bryanreeme8584 9 ай бұрын
Over here in Florida, US, we call em Republicans, and they're fine with being called that
@flyboy747uk
@flyboy747uk 9 ай бұрын
I suggest you look at the state of American cities under the rule of Democrats before you comment.
@bryanreeme8584
@bryanreeme8584 9 ай бұрын
@@flyboy747uk ..and I suggest you look at the red states, the welfare states.. Blue states are the only reason we have a positive GDP (and why James doesn't "debate" with bs.
@hemiolaguy
@hemiolaguy 9 ай бұрын
@@flyboy747uk I live in the heavily Democratic Boston area, and we're doing great!
@CartoonrBOY
@CartoonrBOY 9 ай бұрын
"You know - there's a character limit on Twitter..." 🤣😂😅
@janthomassen9577
@janthomassen9577 9 ай бұрын
What the caller was looking for was: "alternate truth"
@MattHudsonAtx
@MattHudsonAtx 9 ай бұрын
"this is about the jury and they will have made their conclusion by now. Thank you." DUNKED
@faulker2p
@faulker2p 9 ай бұрын
If you're not calling him a liar that makes you a liar.
@DaftdogUK
@DaftdogUK 9 ай бұрын
RSPB: "We apologise for our 'Liars' comment." The last line of their apology? “So, the framing of that tweet, where we called out individual people, we felt was incorrect and inappropriate, and we apologise for that.” Remember when Dennis Skinner was told off for calling half the House crooks, and he amended the statement to half the House are NOT crooks? The RSPB do. "We're sorry we called out individuals. We meant to say the government in its entirety are liars."
@user-gr8ii8jr9o
@user-gr8ii8jr9o 8 ай бұрын
James is fantastic at telling like it really is.
@cefflello861
@cefflello861 9 ай бұрын
Holy Jesus !!! Sometimes I struggle to believe if some of those calls are actually real . 🙈🙈🙈🙈
@raunetteelkins8698
@raunetteelkins8698 9 ай бұрын
What is it that makes people think standards in public life are more important than truth in public life? I'm from the US. We've let lying in public life become so normalized that meaningful conversation is impossible. We can't discuss solutions to issues because we can't agree on the reality of our issues. A large part of it stems from a media company owned by one Rupert Murdoch. I believe you folks in the UK are familiar with him. Look at our quadrupole-indicted former president if you want to see the consequences of not calling out a liar in public life.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
in the UK parliament, you can lie with impunity. you get kicked out for calling someone a liar even when proven, says it all doesnt it?
@raunetteelkins8698
@raunetteelkins8698 9 ай бұрын
@@kanedNunableWe have the speech and debate clause, which protects members of Congress from a host of issues. I've been trying to keep an eye out for UK news because the similarities to what we're experiencing in the US are rather informative.
@jamescoughlan8193
@jamescoughlan8193 9 ай бұрын
Lol was waiting for the bit where James asks on a scale of 1 to 10 how do you feel this call went for you ? Gutted now lol
@Wiley_Coyote
@Wiley_Coyote 9 ай бұрын
Apologists are always hilarious.
@derin111
@derin111 9 ай бұрын
Beyond what we “call”, surely the more important thing is what we “do” about them ! At the moment they lie…..and they get away with it with NO CONSEQUENCES!
@jaimegonzalezrosa9463
@jaimegonzalezrosa9463 9 ай бұрын
What this guy saying to do about politicians is the very core problem of this political system…
@tonynorman-el9tb
@tonynorman-el9tb 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@ros100200
@ros100200 9 ай бұрын
this is just like top quality and well timed stand up comedy.
@therealjetlag
@therealjetlag 9 ай бұрын
I’ve just googled “liar”, and the definition is “a person who tells lies”. The legal definition of a lie is “the misrepresentation of one or more facts in order to gain a benefit or harm another person, where the actor knows or should know that the misrepresentation will be relied upon by another person.” So yeah, it sounds like Michael Gove is a liar.
@lesleydickson7746
@lesleydickson7746 9 ай бұрын
About about time we started calling liars in public life liars.
@brianalmeida1964
@brianalmeida1964 9 ай бұрын
I think this caller is going to need a chiropractor after the contortions he got himself into!
@georgegash2936
@georgegash2936 9 ай бұрын
This man should have the right to vote taken away.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 9 ай бұрын
LOL Im tempted to say that reading the sun or daily mail should be a disqualified voter
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
@@jamespaul6315 just implement an IQ test ;)
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisj9700 north korea is right wing, so lets send all the right wing folks there. They will have secure borders and as much austerity as they can handle
@101perspective
@101perspective 9 ай бұрын
I think the point is that calling someone a "liar" means you can show that not meeting the promise was always their intent. If you can't show that then it's not appropriate to call them a liar. A better word would be maybe "incompetent" or "flip-flopper" or something along those lines.
@alan-sk7ky
@alan-sk7ky 9 ай бұрын
How about deceitful mendacious chancer, is that better than using the liar slur? To be honourable you have to behave honourably see...
@equinoxproject2284
@equinoxproject2284 9 ай бұрын
Great question about the callers motivation to call.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
im guessing a tory voting bird watcher is very conflicted.
@tigasharkstudios
@tigasharkstudios 9 ай бұрын
oh please, this is why we have problems...he's upset about people being called liars, pathetic, oh also they are Liars
@rickyhits6547
@rickyhits6547 9 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics is strong with this one.
@roytheboy1963
@roytheboy1963 9 ай бұрын
If I was that caller I would go and have a LIE down after that grilling!
@user-em6ie2be7x
@user-em6ie2be7x 9 ай бұрын
James Thank you for calling out enablers like that caller.
@kevinsmarts9953
@kevinsmarts9953 9 ай бұрын
This is hilarious, thank you James for the entertainment and education.
@kingdevilman
@kingdevilman 8 ай бұрын
Listening to James destroy Fools is a simple pleasure
@dansmith6909
@dansmith6909 9 ай бұрын
Nope. Still going to call them liars. It's what they are.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 9 ай бұрын
That caller is definitely a liar. Only a liar wants the word "liar" banished from the vocabulary.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 9 ай бұрын
liar is for the plebs not the toffs.
@Nameless.Hermit
@Nameless.Hermit 9 ай бұрын
I hereby think we should change the Oxford dictionary definition of "liar" to "Tory"
@SOBNo1
@SOBNo1 9 ай бұрын
Your excuse for Blair and WMD is?
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