'There’s never going to be a trade deal' | PMQs Analysed | LBC

[@thaumaturgeishere331]

You guys should never ignore Ed Davy like others in the mainstream media! He makes great points each week

[@ianlane4242]

Give your head a wobble.

[@gooblegooble99]

As a teacher of over ten years, I can tell you that the Tories took a wrecking ball to education - as long as you understand that education goes far beyond exam results and functions as part of a wider social contract.

[@MattBooth]

Honestly, hated the idea of local authorities no longer being in charge of education and it going to private companies. Local Authority has a duty of care to the students. Academies are there to make money.

[@I_am_Spartacus]

Every teacher that I know has always said Gove did more damage to the Edu sector than anyone else ever could.

[@gooblegooble99]

@ we’ve New Labour to thank for those, and I agree with you. I’ve taught in some lovely academy schools when I’ve done supply teaching. But they are trying to find the right way to do the wrong thing. Education should not be in the grip of the market. The crises in education and the way we aren’t meeting the needs of children aren’t really about academies though, to me. Education doesn’t exist in its own bubble. When children come to school tired, hungry, unwell, anxious, feeling unsafe in so many ways as so many do, how can they be expected to achieve their best?

[@MattBooth]

@@gooblegooble99 yes and no. The academisation of schools was put on steroids under David Cameron and Micheal Gove. But, they did call Cameron "The Heir to Blair", after all

[@chatham43]

@gooble As a teacher of 11 years I know better than you!😊

[@Sam88-l4k]

Kemi - "Poor children in England are getting better education than wealthy children in Wales". This was used as an argument that wealthy children should be better educated. Listen to it again, makes sense of it. And remember it.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

This must have been before she became working class 😂

[@Sam88-l4k]

@petyrkowalski9887 it was today at pmqs. It's always best to take note what they occasionally say out loud, to what they really think.

[@imogenharrison3432]

Didn't Doris Johnson claim a trade deal would be oven ready. He didn't lie did he.

[@calumbishop7082]

What Boris Johnson lying... no impossible... (this is sarcasm, of course Boris lied)

[@philiptaylor7902]

I doubt if Bunter has ever been in a kitchen in his life, apart from raiding the fridge for a late night snack.

[@Tom_murray89]

Which has ended up the tories microwave bill

[@jamjam2833]

Didn’t Starmer promise change?

[@nusku74]

Where are the Tim Tams?

[@tarquinmerryweather4929]

As a former teacher I can say the Tories crushed education by Austerity. Badenock is an idiot!

[@chatham43]

And we can see why you are a former teacher!😊

[@user-pq9js4ty8l]

​@@chatham43 can you explain your condescending comment please?

[@Glokta66]

Kemi said that this bill was vandalism and would lower standards in schools, but totally failed to tell us why that would be the case, what was in the bill that it was so damaging Kemi?? Kier by contrast stood up and told everyone exactly why the bill is required and what is in the bill, and the changes it will make. Another clear win for Kier!

[@rochcarothers-ts3jx]

US & GB politics mirror 🪞 each other

[@jonlebono2147]

Starmer justified the bill for children not at school or at risk of being victims of abuse which is likely to account for a small minority, In other words, not for the great majority of children

[@jdizzle1779]

Kemi stated it will impact who would be able to teach putting less focus on teachers with experience. It could also lower income for some teachers

[@tombo1984]

Trying to backdoor initiatives that benefit unions in the pretext of school uniforms, breakfast clubs and abuse of students is pathetic.

[@jackperry2821]

Can any of you tell me what benefits the unions without googling it?😂

[@philthrelfall5294]

A union of teachers are going to ruin children's lives?!? Bad-enough needs to look up what a Union is?!

[@andrewstokes4026]

Unions destroy what they think they are protecting, history will tell you that if you take the blinkers off

[@chatham43]

@phil So what is it...and no googling!😊

[@philthrelfall5294]

@chatham43 It is a union made up of teachers!! That is the point. Bad-enough implies that the union is some big, bad organisation, which has nothing to do with teachers. She fails to grasp the make-up & purpose of a Union.

[@davidwarburton-burley9967]

That was spectacularly bad on the part of Badenoch

[@DavidSmith-si6iu]

i am sick and tired of hearing the tories going on about benefiting the unions. why on earth don't labour bring up how conservative policy was all geared to lining the pockets of donors

[@jackperry2821]

@@DavidSmith-si6iu unions=group made of working people Tories are basically saying Labour are wrong for wanting the best for working people, and some working people believe this nonsense!😂

[@JohnGreenacre-y2z]

@@jackperry2821 the majority of the population are working people but the majority are against the labour government anyone who thinks labour is popular are obviously wearing blinkers!

[@jackperry2821]

@@JohnGreenacre-y2z the majority are also anti right wing, as shown in our election. Labour will keep getting in until the right wing go more central, something they just don’t understand

[@drunkengamer1977]

​@JohnGreenacre-y2z Anyone that thinks the Tories are better is a 1yr old troll/bot 😂

[@pecky88]

She made some incredibly naive points on education. Teacher's unions are there to represent teachers - it'd be bad news for teachers if unions weren't satisfied with the bill. The types of people she names such as army veterans can still get into teaching under this bill, they just have to actually qualify as teachers now, adding not only a minimum standard, but also ensuring they have an understanding of childhood development and pedagogy, thereby raising standards. And bringing up Michaela School, a school the vast majority of teachers are opposed to the approaches of, one which only performs well in the limited international tables because it stifles creative subjects and doesn't deliver PE or art lessons is just further evidence of how little she understands the whole profession.

[@cameirusisu1024]

harris academy, pays it ceo £500k, but ships in minimim wage, unqualified people from abroad to "teach" the kids...wonder why its against change? also, they gave £700k to the tories....

[@Elsternow]

We'll be lucky not to get tariffed at this rate...

[@julianshepherd2038]

Very.

[@paulchambers6537]

@@Elsternow Blame starmer if we do and lammy also.

[@tryingmybest9819]

I'm sure we will. It'll just push us closer to the EU.

[@bangbangcan2]

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

[@KevSmith-v4u]

The Americans have more to lose in a trade war with the UK.

[@SteveGrethe]

Gove's education policy was simply to widen the attainment gap between State and Private education as under Labour the gap between them was closing every year. So he enforced an overly academic curriculum that devalued virtually every subject apart from Maths, English and Science. He took schools out of local control by academisation. So heads of academies oversaw several schools and their salaries, in some cases £100,000 plus, were taken out of school budgets. There was therefore a huge drain on resources as money was effectively removed from the state sector. I was a Head of Science and in my final years the budget given to the Department was 1p per pupil per lesson! Difficult to believe that the supposed priority for the Tories was Science education! It became virtually impossible to replace old or broken items of equipment and that is what occurred under Gove. The shortfall is now so large as to what is required for meaningful learning, I cannot see any government able to fund Science education properly. And that is Gove's legacy and I know hundreds of teachers who will agree with this assessment. Grading changes to 1 to 9 was merely a red herring. The grading at both GCSE and A level is unchanged, numbers used instead of letters. Finally how can a practical subject such as science have an exam system were practical work does not form part of the assessment?

[@HomeGrownVeg]

I've just watched a Conservative promoting channel that say's Kemi took Kier apart at PMQ'S today. I think just watching the two of them at PMQ's we can decide for ourselves and no amount of 'massaging' will shift change that.

[@chatham43]

But you'll give it a go?😊

[@paulthornton918]

Starmer just swatting Badenoch questions away again.

[@4adiarmuid]

badenoch car crash in slow motion - horribly unerving to watch - her shaking hand and odd delivery - and lack of understanding of why they are there. tories trying to claim standards were better under them but standards falling elsewhwere has falsely made the uk results better. and stop going on about unions - who does she think are in the unions

[@frogandspanner]

The Bore of Badenoch claimed that under Tory rule UK maths standards are now the best in the world. This is untrue, according to PISA.

[@alundavies1016]

But only if you can do maths

[@chatham43]

According to LISA it is. You calling her a liar?

[@NedTesco]

Someone in Starmer's team should remind him that unlike the 80s & 90s public opinion in quite pro-trade union now and he should use that to point out how out of touch and in a conservative bubble Badenoch is with her constant attacks on unions

[@theregolfer9721]

As a teacher, yes. The National Curriculum by its very nature, should be what is taught nationally.

[@maneshipocrates]

Global Britain return to the EU or join the customs union and single market.

[@paulchambers6537]

No

[@maneshipocrates]

@@paulchambers6537 Britain will. Certainly after the older people for it pass on.

[@paulchambers6537]

@maneshipocrates A lot of younger people are getting wise.We need to cuddle up to America in trade and distance ourselves from the EU .You lost get over it.

[@bigmeltie1]

@@paulchambers6537 Yes

[@Deano14397]

You lost get over it​@@paulchambers6537

[@TicTaxx]

It saddens me that the case of poor Sara Sharif is used as a justification for the attack on home education. Sara was failed by Surrey long before she was taken out of school and indeed, was only taken out of school a few weeks before she tragically lost her life. We home educate our son, he attends clubs and classes and socialises with his friends and he's doing very well. It's not the evil thing Starmer is making it out to be.

[@bernieb5233]

.the system doesn't suit every child or every parent... child spends to much time at school...

[@IronThreads08]

Why do you need to home educate your kid?

[@samueldorrington8990]

Does the bill rule out home education or require a check against abuse?

[@MattBooth]

@@TicTaxx children should be in school with other kids. Unless you're a qualified teacher with another income then you shouldn't be home schooling

[@PatSmith-d5w]

Where and how does Starmer make it out to be an 'evil' thing? Rather strong accusation you are making with no evidence at all. Any measure that will help diminish child abuse should be welcomed by any reasonable parent, I would have thought.

[@MattBooth]

We don't need a trade deal with the US. A trade agreement with Trump would be very one-sided and not put us in any better of a position. The EU is incredibly weakened at the moment and is in a vulnerable state, which would be ideal for a UK government to open talks to rejoin the EU on favouable terms.

[@cup1966wow]

You politically couldn't re-join EU now without a referendum. You can't have one to leave and then just join again without one, it just won't survive politically.

[@hobanagerik]

@@cup1966wow Then by all means let Labour try. I look forward to it.

[@joanormrod4893]

Boris Johnson whom Trump liked didn't manage to get a trade deal. Why would he care about the UK?

[@MattBooth]

@@cup1966wow well, not only that, but the EU mandates it as a condition of joining anyway. But you're right, in that in the current political environment, a referendum wouldn't survive a Trump/Musk propaganda march.

[@maartenaalsmeer]

_The EU is incredibly weakened at the moment and is in a vulnerable state_ "Incredibly weakened and vulnerable" oh my. Eh, why exactly? Because Germany and France have economic issues? Guess what: so does the UK. And instead of being alone and vulnerable like the UK, the EU is the sum of its 27 parts. Issues: sure. Weak and vulnerable: not really. And certainly not enough to engage (outside of the current TCA and WA) with an unreliable and meddlesome ex-member state like the UK. The UK that always wants and needs but has nothing substantial to offer in return, nothing that the EU can't get elsewhere. The UK that doesn't meet the current criteria for EU membership and will be vetoed out 'till Kingdom come. Dream on.

[@tarquinmerryweather4929]

We should get closer alignment with EU. There are Custom trade deals outside of EFTA. However, we need more of the people to support that, at least a supermajority! But Ed Davey is right to bang on about trade and Brexit!

[@thompsonsj64]

The Tories cannot talk about standards after destroying the SureStart programme as soon as they came to power. The austerity measures. WRAC.

[@suttercane6]

I just found out O'Brien is only 53... He looks older than Farage!

[@chatham43]

Brexit aged him.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

And Trump and Musk have put ten years on him easy 🤣

[@pumpkinpaper]

"We're not happy till Jimmy's not happy"🤪

[@GeoffV-k1h]

Badenoch bashed the unions and said they were the only 'winners' from Labour's policies, , yet said teachers would be losing out. Techers are members of unions. So what is she talking about?

[@beandinner1262]

That clip of Farage at the end, his followers must be fuming he didn't get to meet his daddy😂😂

[@jimwest7107]

No need for a UK-US trade deal, it's not a Brexit driven thing, never was.

[@Swamped117]

@@jimwest7107 We don’t need a trade deal with a foreign nation? How does that work exactly?

[@petermclelland278]

Hallelujah! Kemi! After 14yrs they spotted something that marginally improved? Get them back in! 🤪 Starmer Starmer out out out 🤡

[@reasondora2712]

James OB is so dazzled by Starmer he is forgetting his sensibilities. It really makes me cringe . I love a govt being held to account . Democracy. Labour were useless at it . Kemi , not perfect but on it . JOB stop being a sycophant , it’s cringe making .

[@jssonstevens59]

Now that is desperate Kemi os nowhere near it and will ensure another Labour landslide. Guess you should study politics and facts more.

[@reasondora2712]

@ Strangest landslide ever !!! If you study . J OB is becoming comical and cringey. If you don’t see it , bad luck .

[@PopUnlimited]

Does JOB deliberately mispronounce Badenoch? (I know she's awful but saying her name wrong undermines anything you say imo)

[@DickyTaylor-f4f]

Yes he does. And also calls Farrage 'Farridge'.... I think he's trying to be funny but I'm not quite sure!

[@aleph8888]

More examples of the juvenile “Left”.

[@EdJames-tb9oz]

Sound out the word. It is bad-e-noch. Shortening the sounds while maintaing the letters results in Bad-Enoch. Lengthening a words sound is not actually done in linguistics. It is akin to adding letters which alters the word. Kemi complained about people pronouncing her name as English linguistics dictates (see my phonics previous) and tried to get people to pronounce it differently Bae-de--noch. That changes the name to Baedenoch. Regardless of how she wants bad to be pronounced (the pronunciation Baed sounds very entitled in most uk accents, the vast majority of the Electorate are not posh) it still has the word Enoch in it. Look up Enoch Powell and see if that is a association you want in UK politics.

[@PopUnlimited]

But Badenoch is an area of the Scottish highlands and she pronounces it the same way. She's not being awkward. I know who Enoch Powell is and it's not her fault she has a name with "enoch" in it.

[@EdJames-tb9oz]

@@PopUnlimited She ain't Scottish. Nor is she speaking to Scots

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

What about when Starmer releases violent prisoners James, is THAT okay?

[@philipbaker4840]

Badenoch education review period was between 2009 and 2020 ? That includes Labours introduction of Free Schools success at the end of its 3rd term, and adopted by Gove. Given that effect would have continued at least for a further 2 years, ( after the Tory election in 2010), a period relating to Tory competence should be 2012 to 2022. I guess if the figures Badenoch used were reviewed the REAL TRUTH might be somewhat different. Choosing a period that includes Labour policy makes the context of the figures appear more suspect.

[@jmo8934]

She will be ousted as leader before long and they will have to scrape even harder on the bottom of the barrel to dredge up someone even worse. Short of bringing back Liz Truss (which I wouldn’t put past them) they will struggle to achieve that.

[@bobbyfred3761]

Shouldn't be moving towards the US considering what they stand for

[@guyplessier7935]

Fun fact Lord Harris is Baron of Peckham and his coat of arms has a white horse. Rumor has it he is called Trigger

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Jubbly

[@Rael_486]

What you want to do is impose a 25% tariff on all countries wanting to trade with the United Kingdom. 😮

[@paulchambers6537]

I can see a teachers strike coming on.Brilliant aint it.

[@ozzie2612]

i can't

[@jdizzle1779]

I can.

[@ozzie2612]

For those interested in the contents of the clause Kemi discussed: Essentially, the clause mandates that academies not adhering to the national pay guidelines for teachers must comply with them. This implies that overpaid teachers in academies may have their salaries adjusted downwards to align with the guidelines, while underpaid teachers will receive an increase. Therefore, using this as the primary argument against the bill is not particularly strong position.

[@PatSmith-d5w]

You got a crystall ball then? Bit of an idiotic thing to suggest really!

[@donalodonoghue7554]

Love the discussion, but if you’re talking about education, then surely you should work out the correct usage of ‘me’ and ‘I’. Sorry for being sensitive to this important issue. 😂

[@ChrisMcKennaCMK]

I'd like to find out more about the resitrictions on who can teach. There are major subject shortages eg Computer science, maths, physiscs. It seems there should be me more routes into to teaching both from people who already work in thier field and from teachers that have taught in other countries.

[@1radiospeaker]

unions do need alot of money to organise days out for employees, tea and biscuits and logs warm themselves while thery protess

[@1radiospeaker]

didnt ask reeves from accounrs to be a economicist or

[@grumpyoldman-uk]

Labour have played politics over the Education bill by trying to include too many things in it in the knowledge the Conservatives will disagree. If one bill dealt with child welfare - breakfast clubs, home schooling etc then it would pass without opposition relatively quickly. By including wider aspects of education in the bill they have made it contentious. Having watched PMQs it was clear that Starmer was on the backfoot on this throughout the engagement; he could only bluster and had no answer to the Conservative criticisms. James (who is clearly in love with Starmer) knows this which is why he kept the discussion light and rapidly switched to safer ground - like trade deals, the nasty US and, his beloved EU.

[@anonitachi6966]

McGregor is an embarressment to us.

[@TiffsAndAstro]

hello golf club i just left. can i have a deal to use your golf course and all the amenities? no, i won't pay anything in return.

[@wiseget-f7e]

The left-wing digital lynch mob at LBC are always a laugh!😂

[@LeftAndProud]

Left wing LBC? Do you really dislike left wing ideas?

[@andrewrobinson2565]

When the UK follows the "trend" from America, will Kemi Badenoch have her citizenship revoked for having a short-stay birth in Wimbledon? 😮

[@dotmatrix01]

Haha O’boring hasn’t got over Nigel calling him out 🤣

[@I_am_Spartacus]

Hey James,,here's an idea you may have never discussed, is it about time the UK stuck up 2 fingers to America and ditched this special relationship? Wouldn't life be a bit easier....

[@CatholicSatan]

A National curriculum is daft. France has had such a beast for decades and it is stifling. Before such a system, France produced a remarkable number of top mathematicians (Fourier, Lagrange, Laplace, d'Alembert, Lebesgue etc.) and other scientists (the Curies, Lavoisier, Becquerel, Fresnel etc.) but the country seems to have gone off the boil subsequently. I remember back to my school days where our history teacher decided the two years to pass History O-level (as it was then) would be tedious and so we learned other stuff for the first year and only reverted to the "official" curriculum in the second year. The whole class passed (and I might add that my twin brother ignored the whole two years and did his exam in the history that interested him. He got top marks...).

[@Samozed]

Labour Broadcasting cooperation.

[@NickDartnall]

The combover is getting beyond ridiculous.😂

[@twisteddancer7773]

Why would Trump want to give this country anything after the stuff khan and this government says about him

[@julian987r4]

The leftist meltdown is next level! 😂

[@ItsSafehands]

You've been posting that same line a lot tonight/today.... Poor soul.

[@julian987r4]

@ makes a change from the muppets posting to free Palestine.

[@richardmcrandal6696]

It's ture....Labour are just embarrassing ​@@ItsSafehands

[@tryingmybest9819]

Landslide majority, cupcake. You can enjoy this Government for longer than the convicted criminal Trump is in office 😉

[@PatSmith-d5w]

​@@richardmcrandal6696it's even more true that Farage and his not so merry men are an absolute embarrassment and prove this every week trying to be serious MPs at PMQs. Starmer has mocked their idiocy on a number of occasions. It's worth looking up, Starmer is getting better at it each week.

[@richardmcrandal6696]

Starmer destroyed again....that Labour front bench is just embarrassing.

[@ozzie2612]

Kemi said that this bill was vandalism and would lower standards in schools, but totally failed to tell us why that would be the case, what was in the bill that it was so damaging Kemi?? Kier by contrast stood up and told everyone exactly why the bill is required and what is in the bill, and the changes it will make. Another clear win for Kier!

[@richardmcrandal6696]

@ozzie2612 Labour finished and will never return. VILE

[@ozzie2612]

@ only party that can run the country , look at 97-10

[@ozzie2612]

@ better than any other party

[@AlanFagan-y5l]

​@@richardmcrandal6696😂😂 You want to get out more.😂😂

[@Nobody-s7b2p]

KEIR SHIRA LAW STARMER ON ONE SIDE AND A TORY HYPOCRITE ONE THE OTHER. WE ARE DEKUCF.

[@tryingmybest9819]

And Refraud waiting in the wings

[@maartenaalsmeer]

Broken English, anonymous account without content and subscribers that's barely 3 months old: привет товарищ! Troll life must be hard for you, with the Ruble currently going beyond 110 to the US dollar.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

The left are frothing. 😂😂

[@mwd331]

Grow up.

[@ItsSafehands]

The centre are just frustrated. Politics are for policy... The right are taking notes from Trump and that's terrifying for everyone in every democracy. Clowns.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

@mwd331 the grown ups are here now thank goodness

[@mwd331]

@ Bless you.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

@@mwd331 I thannnkyou

[@Skidddersss]

Labour are crushing aspiration, actual learning & development and any innovation in the schools sector. The changes to the National Curriculum are ill-thought out and the Unions have now, finally got their way... which, as we all know, will destroy this country's school system even more. But... at least the bill enables uniform-makers to thrive.

[@nigelsynnott7344]

Your proof of this is?

[@ozzie2612]

For those interested in the contents of the clause Kemi discussed: Essentially, the clause mandates that academies not adhering to the national pay guidelines for teachers must comply with them. This implies that overpaid teachers in academies may have their salaries adjusted downwards to align with the guidelines, while underpaid teachers will receive an increase. Therefore, using this as the primary argument against the bill is not particularly strong position.

[@clario2178]

OBrien don’t care his kids go private 😂😂😂😂😂

[@nigelsynnott7344]

@@clario2178 If he doesn't care, why has he devoted so much time to discuss it?

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Yes, they have the competence of plumbers trying to fix a gas leak or something?

[@MAGAted]

what a disaster labour has been, looks like their going to stick with their golden rule, 'never leave office with unemployment lower than when we started' labour are so much happier in opposition

[@jeffsimon9594]

100%

[@flickthenick]

Hey ted, please expand your wonderful and imaginative views to us all, did you just make this all up or are your able to reference this from a reliable source?

[@philthrelfall5294]

Well I am much happier that this lying, corrupt & divisive Con-Serve-Yourself party is in opposition! Labour may not be great, but even the muppets could do better than the Tory party left behind by Johnson's ravages!!

[@julianshepherd2038]

Under Margaret Thatcher and John Major’s governments, from May 1979 to May 1997, unemployment rose from 5.3% to 7.2%

[@ozzie2612]

For those interested in the contents of the clause Kemi discussed: Essentially, the clause mandates that academies not adhering to the national pay guidelines for teachers must comply with them. This implies that overpaid teachers in academies may have their salaries adjusted downwards to align with the guidelines, while underpaid teachers will receive an increase. Therefore, using this as the primary argument against the bill is not particularly strong position.

[@tomsheppard378]

Kemi is right to focus on how labour only focus on unions not the country. Labour will destroying education

[@ozzie2612]

For those interested in the contents of the clause Kemi discussed: Essentially, the clause mandates that academies not adhering to the national pay guidelines for teachers must comply with them. This implies that overpaid teachers in academies may have their salaries adjusted downwards to align with the guidelines, while underpaid teachers will receive an increase. Therefore, using this as the primary argument against the bill is not particularly strong position.

[@jackperry2821]

@@ozzie2612doing the lords work Ozzie, think you’ll have your work cut out with these fools though!

[@ozzie2612]

@ I know, people have short memories of how bad the torys left the country