GPX Fse300r vs Tse250r Which one do I like better?

[@Cowboysway1969]

After putting 30 miles on the 19 TSE-250 I'd have to agree with you, What a fun bike, And I never felt like I was riding a cheap Chinese bike.....

[@LCARSADV]

Right?! That's why I can't stand it when people knock them without ever seeing one or riding one. But I get it, every other china bike sucks to some degree with cheap parts and sacrifices somewhere. I had a Hawk 250 china bike though and it was $1000 shipped lol

[@walterconn5637]

Good review, these videos keep getting better because we all want to know about the longevity. Good to see that you still happy.

[@LCARSADV]

Thanks man! Yeah I'm super happy, I mean who wouldn't want a 10k bike and yes I would too, but I'm happy with being 80-90% there and I kind of like an underdog to some degree too

[@billallen4793]

Have you ridden the fse450r? And if you have, choosing only one bike. What's better for a play wheelie around town, mild 2track. My back and legs are bad but I want to ride some more before THE CHAIR! So weak legs and a heavy bike are a bad mix. The magic button is ALMOST a necessity. I could probably kick the tse several times before I couldn't do it anymore. But if these new 450's are like my old xr500r there's no way I'd get it running...lol being disabled since sep.03 from a work injury and on a VERY fixed income this dream bike will be my last toy and I'll want to be able to hand it down when I get retired so to speak...I love watching your video's and appreciate your hard work editing and stuff. I'm ALMOST 50yrs old and selling all my old toys to fund this purchace because I can't work on stuff anymore, I tried to change spark plugs on my suburban and couldn't even do 1 before the pain became unbearable. So this bike MUST be reliable, that's one thing about the tse is that engine is as reliable as a wood stove. They just keep going, and I'm disappointed if the got rid of the yamalube system. I know premixing is better and more reliable but I had a rd400 and many rz350's all oil injected and ran great untill I would go crazy making more hp's..lol sorry for writing a book....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

[@LCARSADV]

Hmmm you have quite the specs there lol Nice to see that you want some more 2 wheel action. So I think the TSE would be your bet, it's just a fun bike to ride! It's light, e start and kick, and that 2 stroke zip is just plain fun! With a simple gearing change you can make it power wheelie a lot easier or for more low end. Now the only concern I have is you not being able to wrench. GPX are super reliable yes, but they do require setup. You may have to rip the carb off several times to rejet. Tighten and locktite bolts and put it together from the crate. If you wanted turn-key fun, buy it from a dealer or look into a Beta x-trainer.

[@johnbess7320]

Loving the bluish one. I have the GPX 250E.

[@LCARSADV]

That's what I have now as well, great bike! I like it better than the 300

[@johnbess7320]

I been hearing that what's the reason behind that? 250 more manageable?

[@johnbess7320]

Had a Trail master Tm38 biggest piece of junk ever.

[@worldrage619]

I bought the kayo kt250 which is basically the same bike. Absolutely love this thing. Suspension feels great along with the power of the bike. It lugs really well and apparently with the gpx pipe it’s supposed really wake up which I’m stoke to do eventually although

[@LCARSADV]

Yeah if you don't have the 3rd gen pipe on, get it! It makes a huge difference especially with a smart carb.

[@worldrage619]

@@LCARSADV yes that is the plan for sure but most likely not till spring.

[@cwalton56]

If GPX ever makes the air-cooled machine fuel-injected, I would consider buying one.

[@LCARSADV]

I wouldn't be surprised if you see that update at some point, there already other variants of that engine with FI

[@kingkong81icloud]

I had 4 Yamaha DT125R s back in day , I want one of them 250s

[@LCARSADV]

It’s a great engine for sure! And the frame and suspension it’s on is even better!

[@markshortridge8291]

I’ve been looking at the FSE 450 R. I’ve watched every video I could find. Seems to be limited info. I currently ride a 20 Brozz Recon, 21 KLX 300. I’m looking for something with more power. I do miss my older KX 250’s power and the effortless lifting of the front wheel. I ride in central Florida. Lots of sand and more open trails. What are your thoughts on the 450. I was ready to pull the trigger on a 2021.5 then the 2022’s arrived with a huge price bump.

[@LCARSADV]

What type of riding do you do?

[@markshortridge8291]

@@LCARSADV More open trails , fire roads, lots of sand here in Florida. I do ride a few tight trails occasionally. I put a deposit down on on a 450 last week.

[@liviosinibaldi3632]

Well, there seem to be a lot of guys so excited about the GPX in these comments. I own an off-road company in South East Asia, and we only had troubles with those Chinese copy machines. Same opinion come from the GPX mechanics in town who confidentially confirmed our experience. You guys, where do you get those "wonderful" Chinese machines?

[@LCARSADV]

Gpx bikes really aren't copies at all. Similar in some ways, but not copies. Gpx bikes are spec'd differently for different areas of the world. USA and UK throw all the good parts on.

[@ktmkeith13]

I noticed the Ny plate , I live on Long Island and we ride in PA . Just curious did you get your GPX at a dealer or from the website ?

[@LCARSADV]

I have purchased all 4 of them from the website and plated them all easily. There are dealers around though, I would go there first.

[@cc3775]

I gotta add the 450 next. First I need to get the TSE running right. Just listed my house so can’t do much work in the toys right now.

[@LCARSADV]

That sucks about the carb thing. Yeah I’m going to buy an E actually. Just have to wait a while

[@RobboRobinson]

Good overview and I like your bike cleanliness good work 👍🏻

[@LCARSADV]

Thanks! Actually I thought the bikes were a little dirty lol, but I'm glad you guys think they're clean!

[@dalepellerin]

Looks like lower profile seats you're running. Just picked up the latest TSE300R by GPX and loving it. But, oddly, I don't like the big comfy seat. I don't sit while riding and would like to get a lower profile seat and was wondering what you're running? Thanks.

[@LCARSADV]

I’m just running the stock seat on my tse300, it’s very similar to a seat concepts. But as you said, you should be standing anyways lol

[@bikersoncall]

Thanks for the review! FSE 300R ''Doesn't wheelie easily'' , good to know, does the TSE250R, bring the wheel up with ease or does it slightly struggle ? I need to be able to wheelie over medium sized logs (not branches), and boulders.

[@LCARSADV]

The TSE wheelies better with a smart carb as I could get the front end up very easy in 2nd gear. The 300 will wheelie it just takes a little more effort

[@bikersoncall]

@@LCARSADV Thanks man, I appreciate it, sounds like the TSE would be closer to what I'm looking for,, looking at a whole lotta different bikes right now. As far as powerband' goes, I'm sure you're right, I grew up knowing it as the graph's range, but lately I find people using the term as you are, so it's almost a tomato toe mot oh, type of thing, I found a dyno-pro use the term interchangeably, lol, either way I could have it completely wrong. Appreciate your videos and input on bikes!

[@LCARSADV]

@@bikersoncall no problem, glad I could help!

[@NeilCrossley]

Hey can I ask if you have ridden the new fse 300r? Was hoping you could compare the two 300's. Cheers Neil

[@LCARSADV]

Compared to the new two stroke 300?

[@NeilCrossley]

@@LCARSADV no both of the 300r 4 strokes. The fse 300 I think there called

[@sethchannell117]

Awsome review but still trying to order one and all say are out of stock!!!????

[@LCARSADV]

Yeah that's true with every brand everywhere. The supply chain is strained for literally everything and not just dirt bikes. What are you looking for?

[@ocoutdoors2355]

Between the TSE and the FSE300 and 450, which would you suggest to someone who lives out West? I want to be able to ride open desert, Moab, woods, tight single track, mild enduro.... I’d like to be able to ride the woods in the Pacific North West and also ride the 2-3 day Los Angeles to Las Vegas offroad ride. I’m 5’8” at 195lbs athletic in my late 20s. Ride 100% offroad, no pavement. No sand dunes. Plan to dual sport plate it to spite the liberal tree huggers. Thanks for the help. Love the GPX content.

[@LCARSADV]

Honestly any of the 3 could do it, and do it well. I think the TSE would probably check the more technical type boxes and is the better bike for that. But you have to take into consideration the 2 stroke vs 4 stroke factor. if you are going to cover a lot of ground and need more fuel range, you may want to go 4 stroke and I think if I lived out west and I have ridden out west, I would probably hit the 450, but in seriously tight woods I would do the TSE or 300. I don't think here in the east coast tight woods and clay I would want the 450 for off road only, but out west in utah deserts, heck yeah!

[@ocoutdoors2355]

@@LCARSADV thanks for the input, I agree 100%. I’m between the 300 and 450. Coming from carborated XRs and YZF, the Delphi EFI sounds great.. that said, I do want to own a 2 stroke at some point in my life. At the rev range I see you riding your TSE, how frequently do you expect to need top and bottom end rebuilds? I don’t rev the hell out of my vehicles so I just wonder how long I could get out of a TSE. I know with Japanese and euro 2 stroke enduros, the top end is about every year to 100hrs.

[@LCARSADV]

@@ocoutdoors2355 the tse has a Yamaha dt230 engine and it was originally designed for dual sport purpose. So rebuilds are pretty mute and it’s not an issue. Obviously every engine will need one, but all the GPX engines are low maintenance.

[@ocoutdoors2355]

@@LCARSADV I think the best 1 bike for the west is the 300 and the best 2 bike combo is the TSE and 450. Is the sole reason you deleted your oil injection on the TSE that you don’t trust the pump? Or is it that you prefer to vary your oil ratios at will?

[@LCARSADV]

The engine I have now is the second and it didn't come with it as all the new TSE's don't have it any longer. I did a vid about it a while ago. I do miss oil injection, but I know that premix is always 100% worry free

[@kervincruz3561]

hello, sir I got GPX Tse250r here in the Philippines, and it's also known here as MPX Philippines. Can I ask you some questions since you have lots of experience on that bike., What is the carburetor are you using and skid plate or engine guard where can I buy it?

[@LCARSADV]

The carb I am using is a smart carb 26mm, however the newer bikes use a 34mm? i believe. The skid plate is stock straight from gpx usa, you may be able to find one on alibaba possibly?

[@Crazyfornayeon]

any links for the smartcarb

[@LCARSADV]

smartcarbfuelsystems.com/product/28mm-sc2-smartcarb/ I think I have a 29 Rod in mine

[@germanramirez3914]

Hola saludos de costa rica me interesa la gpx 300 2t que me podría desir sobre ella algún conocimiento que tanta duración para un enduro contaste

[@LCARSADV]

Greetings! What would you like to know?

[@Redcountypatrol]

How fast have you gotten the TSE up to? Glad to hear its smooth at 65 haha

[@LCARSADV]

Stock gearing maybe low 70ish. 65 is smooth yes, but I would t maintain that speed on a 2 stroke on a sustained ride at that speed. The rpms are not red lined but it is high. Still smooth though!

[@shaneleland6772]

What do you have for hand guards, mine are banged up and busted 🤣 I basically decided i wanted to be a pro enduro rider and i just get stupid in the woods, i start trail riding then end up mountain climbing, rock crawling, stream bombing and jumping everything possible. I have the fse 300

[@LCARSADV]

Lol the acerbis x factory fit like a glove

[@rbuck9]

what did ya have to do to make the 250 street legal?

[@LCARSADV]

Lights and blinkers, that’s pretty much it. At least in NY anyways. The mso says “motorcycle” on it which allows you to register it for street. Typically dirt bikes say “off road” which this does not.

[@bikersoncall]

You talk about it wanting to be 'in the powerband' revved up, then it's got linear power, and then good in tight technical, won't stall at low rpm, then linear... ? ''being in the power band means nothing, the power band is 0 12k rpm or wherever the redline is.. You may have said it likes to be on the pipe, which everyone gets; high rpm.. I'm going to guess that the essence of what you're attempting to convey is in the statement you made; ''Linear power'' , but as noted, I kind of got lost in all your other opposing terms. This looks to be an awesome bike, would love to see a Dyno Chart, and get the actual weight, you said handles like a mtn bike which is cool but so far the only weight I can find is 260lbs, yikes, one heavy mtn bike. Have you weighed the bike, can easily do this on a bathroom scale.. Cheers and enjoy the bike!

[@LCARSADV]

When I say linear I mean controllable throughout the rev range where it won't buck you off the seat like a crazy horse. When I say happy in powerband, I mean exactly that, it's a 2 stroke and it likes to be reved and it has a spot in the powerband where's its most alive. Not sure if that makes sense? It's a great engine though. Yeah it's a bit heavier than a KTM I guess, but it's also not 11k dollars either. It feels light enough to me and I was coming from a DRZ which makes anything feel lighter. The TSE rides light and carries the weight well. Thanks man!

[@maurabrazil8385]

Really thinking about getting the tse250r for my next bike. How is it holding up??

[@LCARSADV]

I love it! And I think you'll find from the FB GPX group that pretty much everyone who rides it loves it. I have tons of videos about the bike here on my channel, so I'm pretty honest about my experiences with this bike and GPX

[@mikebolding9421]

What about the 450???

[@LCARSADV]

I haven't ridden it, but I wouldn't want any 450 out east where I am in the tight woods.

[@codymullis6780]

Where do you get graphics kits for the 250

[@LCARSADV]

Motorcal.com has them, but GPX UK has some great ones that fit perfectly

[@tetealtamiranda3401]

what shifter did you use to replace stock on the 300r?

[@LCARSADV]

Pro Caken off of ebay. I like it!

[@JohnMDiCesareIII]

You said GPX has a TSE 300 with fuel injection. When, 2023?

[@LCARSADV]

If it wasn't for covid they would probably be out now. There are some in the wild now, I think mass production begins for 2022 is last I heard

[@althebal86]

Don't think it'll be fuel injected for the 300 tse. Looks like they've acquired the tooling for a 2017 ktm 300 counter balanced carburetted engine

[@tieoneon1614]

I see they are out of stock on all 4 of the big models

[@LCARSADV]

Yep and everybody everywhere and any bike brand is out, the demand is insane! They are taking deposits though. Sucky time to buy a dirt bike anywhere

[@jeffdegroot6741]

Where did you get the custom graphics

[@LCARSADV]

Motocal, but gpxmotouk has some great graphics already made too

[@jarredschatz7544]

Do you have to mix gas on these or are they injected

[@LCARSADV]

Tse250r is mix

[@percussion44]

someone could make a stroker kit for the engine increase stroke 5mm to improve bottom end and increase displacement to 250cc.

[@LCARSADV]

I think someone did actually make a BB kit, they posted about it the other day in the FB group

[@roycemartin9068]

These look like a rebranded husqvarna/ktm. The plastics on these bikes are IDENTICAL to my 2018 husqvarna

[@LCARSADV]

Close, but not quite the same. Some work and some don't. Engines are proprietary and suspension. But the platform is close

[@SeanSR]

what is the gearing of the tse and fse?

[@LCARSADV]

If you go to rocky mountain atv and use the drop down menu for parts, it tells you all the stock stuff for GPX bikes. You may have to use 2019 as the year though…

[@landonromeo1447]

Where’s the graphics form?

[@LCARSADV]

Motocal. They have an online design software for custom graphics

[@landonromeo1447]

@@LCARSADV they have them for gpx bikes ?

[@LCARSADV]

@@landonromeo1447 the 2019-20 have husqvarna plastics so I just used a 2017 te250 as my template base, the new ones have a ktm style plastic, not sure which year to use as a template on them though…

[@brettresseguie2279]

How did you get the 2stroke street legal?

[@LCARSADV]

Insured it, went to the dmv and left with a plate. This is NY though....

[@brettresseguie2279]

@@LCARSADV nice Iam Upstate that's why I asked,great channel keep up the good work.

[@LCARSADV]

@@brettresseguie2279 nice man, hope to see you at an event! There are some good ones coming up

[@lewispace7507]

What is the top speed of the tse 250r

[@LCARSADV]

It depends on gearing, but stock I believe is around 65 ish

[@lewispace7507]

@@LCARSADV is that completely stock

[@LCARSADV]

@@lewispace7507 yeah. It probably comes a little tall. Honestly I wouldn’t want to maintain that kind of speed on any two stroke though.

[@lewispace7507]

@@LCARSADV yea ofc that’s bad for them but what do you mean by comes a little tall

[@LCARSADV]

@@lewispace7507 it mean the gearing is tall, or suited a little more towards speed, rather than perfect off road gearing. I would gear it slightly lower for off road which I did.

[@motionfactoryracing5914]

Now you just have to ditch those stock footpegs;)

[@LCARSADV]

Really? I think they're great! What don't you like about them?

[@motionfactoryracing5914]

Great video, just joking around. We are a little biased when it comes to footpegs. Always go with what you like. Cheers@@LCARSADV

[@ogasi1798]

is it me or is the H.A really steep?

[@LCARSADV]

HA?

[@ogasi1798]

@@LCARSADV head angle

[@techies_gaming8091]

how many km/l mileage is this bike broh?

[@LCARSADV]

had 1000 miles on the FSE300r

[@techies_gaming8091]

@@LCARSADV i mean 1 liter equal to how many km she got?

[@LCARSADV]

@@techies_gaming8091 I did check at one time for both bikes, but I honestly don’t remember. The 4 stroke gets pretty good gas mileage though.

[@timmyweathers9606]

blue pipe ..its running lean

[@LCARSADV]

Oh yeah it definitely was!

[@RichardDoughman]

ITS BASED OFF THE YAMAHA DT 225 ENGINE

[@LCARSADV]

Correct. I heard they bought the engine line to it but anywho, it’s a great engine

[@kick8472]

Why didn't you buy one for your wife?!?!

[@LCARSADV]

Lol I actually asked and she has no interest. Bummer, I love chicks who ride, there is something cool about it.

[@amashop752]

Muy cara para ser china

[@LCARSADV]

But priced right because they amazing bikes.

[@GregKerr301]

interesting bikes but id rather pay more than feed these intellectual property thieves.

[@LCARSADV]

The engines are their design and so is much of the other stuff. But I do understand where you’re coming from, it’s also hypocritical because your phone and everything else you use is made there, so why is it different with dirt bikes? If the USA made a dirt bike I’d buy it, but unfortunately we don’t.

[@roygumpel8415]

What did they cost? i guess the 2 stroke isn't street legal?

[@LCARSADV]

I have played all my GPX bikes in New York. GPXmoto.com for pricing