League player attempts Dota 2

[@OurHappyDeath]

Damn, a new player researches the game, plays the tutorials and studies the abilities of the hero they want to play? In this economy??? Good job Yon, you're doing great!

[@yoncreator]

Thanks so much! Yeah I watched Tzar Potato, BSJ, and zQuixotix videos to familiarize myself with basic concepts. Still a work in progress though!

[@night8285]

​@@yoncreatorGood YT channels! I don't know Tzar Potato, I will check him out. Try watching GameLeap too, for heroes tier lists in the current patch.

[@mni833]

@@yoncreator FR though, im so sick of seeing the same "first time playing dota" vids where ppl get in game without even doing the bare minimum of figuring out what their own hero does, then complain that they have no idea whats happening or what they should do. its so refreshing to see someone actually put in some genuine effort. Thank you so much, please keep it up!

[@yoncreator]

@@mni833 Hey thanks for the great feedback! Glad to hear that my approach has been something you enjoyed. Really appreciate the support, stay tuned for more effortful content! :)

[@minimino9878]

​@@mni833literally me when I played dota for the first time years ago 😂

[@Yudoma_Jack]

“You're doing very well. I'm very proud of you."

[@yoncreator]

"This was a good opportunity to learn."

[@matheusarantes5892]

“You’re a beautiful person, with a charming personality!”

[@yoncreator]

@@matheusarantes5892 " I've always wanted to be a giant space crab."

[@renzorodriguez6821]

​@@yoncreator"You can't improve unless you make mistakes"

[@kamaniek-o-d-d2524]

@@renzorodriguez6821 "Goodness!"

[@brandonabrams312]

The first guy right clicked his mini map. Because trying to run down and left, he clicked the upper right portion of the map making him turn around. This is a common beginner mistake when playing on radiant side.

[@yoncreator]

Yeah I completely forgot that normally the Dota UI is set up where the map is on the left. I came from League so I adjusted it so the map is on the right.

[@Josh-bq6rm]

@@yoncreator you can chnage the maps position if I'm not mistaken

[@minimino9878]

​@@Josh-bq6rmyea that why he changed it to the right since league of legends places it there I believe.

[@TaydolfSwifter]

Or he chose to die earlier to respawn back faster with full hp rather than waisting time on escaping with no escape. Trying to escape is just lost of exp and gold from lang the longer you fight

[@Lasden]

@@TaydolfSwifter Depends how many enemies are using their time to try and kill you. In a 1v1 thats a good play, if 3 heroes are chasing you better to squeeze every second out of them that you can.

[@KrypeAV]

I almost cried when you remembered your hex @5:59 because it instantly kills most illusions in the game

[@yoncreator]

Oh NO WAY... Just fell to my knees at walmart parking lot

[@PrinceContreras-w8n]

Wait, this gameplay is before the facets and innate update...

[@linusre4298]

Brother has 300 new abilities to learn

[@PrinceContreras-w8n]

i think he should have enough time to get the gist of the update

[@yoncreator]

Yeah it was last summer, so the footage is from LONG time ago, but it is chronologically when I started seriously learning Dota so the first episode is a blast from the past. Thank you for watching!

[@bearofpanda5651]

@@yoncreatorare there going to be more episodes of your experience and journey learning dota?

[@yoncreator]

@@bearofpanda5651 I hope so! I made this first video as a kind of a "test run" to see if people would be interested in my style and the way I tell my story. Based on the feedback of this video and reception I will make a decision!

[@Wyse-Gaming]

I want more. We have been so used to dota and its toxicity that it's refreshing to see a new perspective from new players like you.

[@yoncreator]

Thanks a lot for the enthusiasm and nice comment. I'm very happy that you feel that way about the video, I set out to create a kind of experience I wanted more from the youtube dota scene. Stay tuned for more in the future :)

[@itsauguste]

It felt like this whole video belongs to a higher sub count channel. The quality is amazing. Waiting for more future content~

[@yoncreator]

Thank you so much for the kind words. Compliments like yours is really the highest praise for me. Thank you and I'll continue to make more! :)

[@deadded5793]

​@yoncreator i totally agree with the comment here. Subbed for more dota content

[@rm6095]

Great editing, like your vibes, if you keep them coming, I will keep watching

[@yoncreator]

Thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment! Glad to hear you enjoyed it, and thank you for the positive feedback.

[@alannguyen4636]

Another awesome video! Loved all the added video effects. Keep it up, man!

[@yoncreator]

Thanks so much! I really appreciate the support :)

[@mauriciohablutzel]

Cool editing, actually funny jokes and a interesting videp idea. Very good video!

[@yoncreator]

Thank you for watching and the great feedback!

[@parkerpyle]

Good thing you have some basic from the LoL. You are doing pretty good in this match. I have some advice on hoodwink. 1. You can right click on your Q skill icon to toggle it to make it always plant a tree. 2. Maelstrom and Gleipnir is a very good item for hoodwink. 3. Your position on fights is a bit too front. Keep circling on the rim or at your skill range. Buying aether lense is a good option sometimes. Hope you enjoy the game

[@yoncreator]

Thank you for the advice! Definitely need to work on my positioning in Dota especially because there are many abilities that can completely lock you down!

[@SadFace201]

@@yoncreator Something I noticed as someone that plays both League and Dota, fog and vision are far more important in Dota than in League. Ganks in dota often occur by nobody being on the map then suddenly 3-4 enemies are ontop of you. Playing from fog and knowing how to break line of sight with trees is integral to positioning for teamfights in dota. In League it's much easier to predict these kind of from-fog engages because walls and bushes are permanent and engage ranges are not your entire screen. Trees, high-vs-low ground, as well as day/night in dota add a lot more variability in how vision plays into a teamfight or gank. Also, good job learning the game. I'm the only one among my friends that likes to play multiple MOBAs and enjoys the different flavors of the genre. Glad to see someone enjoy learning the game rather than just getting frustrated by going in blind then quitting.

[@apsinthos5439]

My mind blown the moment you brought up about Hoodwink is basically Jhin, only realize about it now

[@yoncreator]

Yeah I thought it was crazy at first too, but they do play really similarly!

[@wroomfn2414]

you are doing great!! this is the best video of a new player discovering dota on a youtube

[@yoncreator]

Wow thank you, that's very high praise!

[@LordMikopus]

You are doing great, I love your approach to the overwhelming experience dota can be for new players

[@animespectra3791]

Enjoyed your video, bro. Hope you'll continue posting more. Have fun with Dota 2!

[@MrL.izard.]

honestly the fact that you press your buttons off cooldown will get you to an above average rank. More spells = more impact. I'd love to see how your journey into dota goes

[@yoncreator]

Thanks so much! I'll continue to document the journey

[@Isarnwolf]

Great editing, really liked the Banjo-Kazooie sfx. I'd definitely watch more of your Dota journey!

[@yoncreator]

Thank you for watching and the nice comment! I worked very hard on it, so I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed it. See you in the next video!

[@Fish2074]

6:52 you’re doing amazing you used all of your skills properly

[@yoncreator]

Thank you so much!

[@dagon7259]

As a ranged support its nice to see you backing up in the later part of the game when your spells are on cooldown.

[@spcsandbag6517]

Nice video man, hope you really enjoy it and stick around with it.

[@yoncreator]

Thank you so much! I hope so too!

[@shazwimalik6087]

great job man, u did alot in research and study and u played damn well, turbo is a great place to learn againts others, keep up to good work

[@IzzoSkizzy]

Just happened to tune into your video, hope you're still playing! For the first match you actually landed some good skills, I think your experience with LoL helped for sure. Hope to see more learning content in the future, plus enjoyed the editing.

[@noxthenight6581]

I was looking for a LOL player to start a Dota series, so I hope you will make more videos like this one. It was well made and I especially liked the part with the last hitting under the tower. :D Dota has a lot of intriguing techniques and mechanics so it is tough to master, it can be too much, especially in turbo where everything is sped up, so I recommend all pick. But your actions have a greater impact, so you must be careful. (perhaps you have played all pick when you said you played more games), but anyways. I can talk about this for hours, but in short, if you are interested in learning Dota, I would recommend a "friend" with Dota knowledge on call and start with playing against bots first, so you can pause and talk about mechanics just as they happen. Cheers! Have a great day!

[@yoncreator]

Hey thank you for watching and leaving a thoughtful comment! Glad you enjoyed that part about last hitting under the tower - it surprisingly took a while to create that in the editor. I definitely play only all pick or ranked now. I quickly realized turbo isn't as fun as normal mode for me. Dota is definitely very difficult in the sense that there are mechanics and concepts that are so new and foreign in comparison to League. I'd say that League is a lot more streamlined and simple in terms of mechanics while Dota has some really wild mechanics (e.g. blocking camps, stacking camps, BKB, etc).

[@twobax4646]

make more for sure! as a long time dota player i really enjoyed this. great little fun edits

[@DrewCarry1423]

You're doing awesome dude! I was going to comment about how you can right-click some spells and they can toggle between a modified version. for example acornshot will produce a tree when fired if "autocasted" but then halfway through you figured it out lol. As a long time dota player with many LoL friends this was so entertaining!

[@GearDiego23]

actually did pretty well; one of the best first time dota videos I seen.

[@ssjgoku276]

For a new Dota player, your gameplay in this match was beautiful. Keep this up and you can get a decent rank when calibrated.

[@akutimestwo]

I love when League players play dota and share videos of it! Do more!

[@Lucas-lp9kh]

with hoodwik I love to build Maelstrom first item, it has a powerful interaction with your Q. And allows you to easy farm lane and jungle. After that Desolator, then whatever fits against the enemy. Give it a try! At the end you got the combo, Q to the ground to create the tree, E to stun with that tree, charge ult while enemy is stunned. I'm a noob too, but that's the build I had more success with this hero :p also remember that your E allows you to walk through the trees, for easy scape and easy positioning for the combo!

[@Epig420]

Terrible build as a support

[@Lucas-lp9kh]

@@Epig420 yeah not for support, just for noob Turbos!

[@volodymyr_budii]

@@Epig420 Imagine, but hoodwink can be played as a core in the right draft

[@copfer99]

auto report if you playing on my team as a supp, mana boots then atos then go for gleip, then euls or fs then go for crit. hood is a supp that transitions to dps.

[@Lucas-lp9kh]

@@copfer99 do you guys have sups in turbo?

[@mewschief]

You are doing great. I hope to see your growth in dota

[@JuggernautOficial]

U played better than my friends who have been playing the game for 10 years and that ember catch at the end . Mwahhh

[@yoncreator]

Wow thank you for the nice compliment! I got lucky with a really good team. I was so confused the whole match. I hope you stick around for the next episodes!

[@vitorsoares8975]

it's very funny and a good way, to see players tryng dots. I love the game, and I realy enjoyed the content. :D

[@usamaali736]

your content is great, man! Im so glad i subscribed

[@yoncreator]

Hey usamaali736, great to see you again in the comment section! Thank you so much for coming back and checking out my videos. Appreciate the sub and support immensely! See you in the next one!

[@Cronation.]

Good stuff man, I learned to play with Bounty Hunter myself. Things look good to me! You'll fix most of the mistakes you made on your own. Just remember to use your item, spam those low cd items like solar or hood, you can sell things in turbo from anywhere too so getting rid of your wand and tangos. Lastly the crystalis, crit stick, you just had too many items near the end. Hood is a semi carry/support so she usually builds a little support like Rod of Atos, and or Glimmer first, then Gliepnir, Desolator, Daedalus, etc. Keep it up and you'll go far :pa_kiss:

[@Peyzor1]

Awesome video man, breath of fresh air

[@bbiophilia]

I really enjoyed this and you played really well! More Dota videos pleaseeee :) Also something completely random but you sound JUST like Aculite, a fellow gamer-youtuber too. And by extension you sound like John Krasinski as well, lol

[@yoncreator]

Hey there! Thanks so much for checking the video out, there are some Dota videos in the works so I hope you'll stick around the channel for more! Also, I just checked out Aculite. I haven't heard of him before, but I'm actually so blown away at how similar our voices are, it's almost creepy!

[@OMGREPLAAY]

dude nice gameplay for new player (Welcome to DOTA 2)

[@yoncreator]

Thank you! Glad to be here!

[@umut1211]

Great vid, shocking you are this familiar without someone else coaching you. Subbed + waiting for more dota

[@pattysod]

I always like seeing players from LoL play Dota and vice versa as it introduces new tactics from the other game. My League buddy thought me that in league as a support you are supposed to be close to your core in a straight line perpendicular to the lane for "maximum kill threat". So eventually I started doing the same thing with some of my heroes in Dota and my kills in lane skyrocketed! I think both fandoms can learn from each other in multiple ways

[@lysalanalorwyn2152]

That's called parallel positioning. Two of you make a triangle positioning against the closest enemy so if he hit any of you, he will be get hit twice.

[@renzorodriguez6821]

Hey this content slaps, keep it coming;)

[@yoncreator]

Thanks a lot for the kind feedback! Stay tuned :)

[@KirbFly]

That was a good game! well played, hope you continue to stick around ^^

[@atina253]

You were doing very very good , better than many people i know that are playing for years :D TBH you picked hoodwink which is a skill based hero , and still you did amazing :)

[@salim776]

2:45 Dota players have a map on the left, and Huskar clicked on the tower in a panic, and clicked on the corner of his map, classic...

[@yoncreator]

Ohhh it all makes sense now!!

[@projectporvette1914]

In higher MMR games, it would have been to reset. He was so low it would have been a waste of regen and -1min to try to stay in the losing lane. it's just better to plain ole reset.

[@crazyace91]

man you got a new fan going to watch your content also try gleipnir on hood i dont know if it writen on the acorn description but it triggers orb effects so it can trigger chain lightning also its a nice way to set up your stun and ulti oh about hitting ulti you dont have to max it out what most players do is after the stun ended fire your ulti so it doesnt give them time do dodge if you want to try a combo on hoodwink use acorn stun ulti while ulti is channeling use gleipnir to hold and fire max damage ulti Good luck with your next game

[@yoncreator]

Hey crazyace91, thanks for the kind words and advice! Yeah, something I keep forgetting while playing Hoodwink is that I can cast Q and W while in Ult!! Also, after I wisened up and realized how great Glepnir is on Hoodwink I definitely build it every time when I can :)

[@Nachos-sk7od]

Good play, actually! Hoodwink is kinda squishy against that gang of thugs, but you lived. Also, tactically speaking, Sheepstick is a crucial pick, both for keeping you alive and playing against Ember and Huskar.

[@yoncreator]

I had to look up what "sheepstick" was and I realize it's Scythe of Vyse! I love that item, and I wanna build it every time I can. Too bad it turns them into pigs instead of sheeps in dota 2 though :(

[@MessiahOfRodents]

Gelphnir is a more reasonable option on wink imo, the maelstrom acceleates your farm, the longer range lets you catch people and then walk closer to bushwack, and its cheaper. In turbo if you're getting dove a bunch, the scythe is good, but in a regular game you will not have the money until really late

[@pate7179]

Actually learning this game the right way, kudos to you sir

[@randomsht-gw1fy]

that huskar hook was hilarious 😂

[@ssjgoku276]

Report that Huskar for griefing. JK.

[@Real_Genji]

Would love to see more. I had a very similar experience as you

[@MrFThree]

I enjoyed this, would be great to see you keep going

[@ElatedSphee]

Legitimately, good sh*t. small tip; you can alt cast your q to always create a tree BUT lose the ability for it to lock onto someone... but hey if you're using it primarily to stun, it's good enough and it still bounces to a random enemy after that. You can toggle this with alt+q btw or just right clicking the ability button (but that's kinda slow).

[@hanagetsu5319]

I honestly would love to watch you stream dota 2. Not sure how much people would join in or how much you are willing to stream it lol. And seeing you cast skills is almost better than my friends who played it for as long as I know them which is 4 to 5 years

[@TZAR_POTATO]

Only halfway through and I'm loving it! The edits are on point :) I know you said your recording was from last year, but if you are still learning, we can chat on discord any time you want, and I'd be happy to coach.

[@yoncreator]

Hey TZAR_POTATO! Thank you so much for checking the video out! Appreciate your support so much! Your content is the reason why I had such an easier time transitioning to Dota from Lol! Please keep up the amazing work!

[@TZAR_POTATO]

@@yoncreator Can you check for me if my past comments got held by the automod?

[@yoncreator]

@@TZAR_POTATO Hey sorry I'm new to KZbin and don't know how this works. Could you explain what you mean?

[@TZAR_POTATO]

@@yoncreator KZbin Studio -> Comments -> held for review I sent you a couple of invites but I think the comments were instantly removed.

[@funnyvideosfouryou]

dude your hoodwink combo is really fast and really good!!!

[@diosakamas7216]

Bro hoodwink is probably a medium difficulty in dota and you are playing it really well for it being your first time keep making content I would like to see more

[@Pallenquin]

2:47 he 100% clicked his minimap.

[@yoncreator]

Yeah, I didn't realize why he did that but now it makes sense! That's the reason my map is on the other side because I used to do that as well - I can't believe I forgot!

[@RizzrakTV]

hoodwink abilities are pretty much the most league-like so it makes sense for you to play it love mario music in the vid!

[@yoncreator]

Yeah Hoodwink is really fun! I still play her often. Thank you, I love the mario music :)

[@dapedaily]

that huskar and pudge hook was too relatable lololol

[@Miki-hk6vy]

absolutely great gameplay with hoodwink, I would love to play with you since you set up a ton of team fights with the q into w, also yeah sometimes if you're not certain engaging is 100% win just let some of the tanks try and soak up the worst abilities the enemy has so you can try going alll in with no fear of dying instantly. At least it's what I concluded as a new player

[@tanyewestt]

bro you were sick! better than 50% of the current pool

[@qshadess]

you're doing great!! n ur games makes my day ngl😂

[@franz009franz]

you are pretty good at clicking buttons already^^

[@yoncreator]

Thanks! That's all I'm good for HAHA

[@Wkwkwkw-e3w]

I noticed all of the allies and enemies are players that understand dota, you re playing good

[@recehgaming8246]

So glad u try dota, after play dota, I think winning in LOL gonna taste different, hahaha. Cause that what I feel, after playing other moba, I`m glad dota is my first moba . Just little tips, when starting game, ask ur lanning friend, are u carry or support, if he said carry, then u must do support. Learn what support must do. If u play hoodwink, and u play as pos 4 (soft support), u must make sure ur offlane survive the lanning phase, harras enemy support and carry, block neutral camp with sentry, and rotate to mid, to help kill their pos 2 (midlaner carry). U can also stacking ur ancient if ur pos 3 have bad lanning phase, they can recover latter. Buy support item first, like arcane boot , rod of atos, force staff or eul can really have impact in game. Anyway good luck.

[@yoncreator]

Hey thanks a lot for checking the video out and giving some great advice! I've been learning a lot since this game and have a better understanding of the support role!

[@McClaps]

thing i like about dota is that hero counters like in league doesnt matter as much as you have a bunch of items that can counter them

[@QuackZack]

Kinda. If you have an enemy Medusa and no Anti-Mage. It's by no means impossible to win but it's a lot harder if that Medusa is farmed and a good player.

[@RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg]

2:45 that Huskar accidentally click on minimap

[@yoncreator]

Yeah, a few people pointed it out in the comments and now it all makes sense!

[@Captain1nsaneo]

Hoodwink has a lot of strong abilities, good choice for your first hero. You were landing your stuns and not dying very much for a new player, you were contributing just with that. (in turbo, missing last hits hurts a LOT especially early game)

[@Andrei01001]

It was fun watching you. I think you are pretty good.

[@paragshrestha9143]

Hilarious intro. Ults an illusion into "i think i did well" 😂😂

[@purplefanta7142]

Alt hover over abilities to sometimes learn more. You can right click your Q to make it always create a tree for -1 bounce so stuns are easier. You did quite well for a first real game.

[@yoncreator]

Thank you for the tips! Will definitely use them in the future.

[@Slateproc]

I'd love to see more "learning dota" gameplay from league enjoyers. If you haven't tried them already, Dawnbreaker is basically a reworked Leona (plays kind of the same) and the new support Ringmaster has league design philosophy written all over his kit

[@Jugglerman]

You did a great job! Mobas are very complicated, so no worries!

[@sakeondeez]

for a new player you are doing really well, especially your skill usage, i guess that comes from the league experience. probably the hardest thing to learn now is all the items and all hero skills and abilities, if you want to torture yourself xd

[@jeric555]

If you're playing as a support your goal in laning is to make sure your carry is having an easy time hitting creeps, if you know how to pull jungle creeps you stack it for them, make sure you put wards that give them vision so you can have info if the enemy plans on ganking you and in team fights forget the kills make sure you make it hard for the enemy team to team fight by disrupting them with stuns and disables and if you have heals you sustain your team mates

[@meowtime1115]

good stuff bro. you clicked those skills and items like not a first timer

[@Th1nk1n6]

If this is an early game of yours I'm guessing you did a fair amount of research into the items etc., because of your purchases and all. And when playing Hoodwink, I sometimes go first item Arcane Boots, as mana is the thing I often struggle with most with that hero. Hoodwink has excellent spells, but what good are they if you can't cast them?

[@yoncreator]

In this game, I think I tried to use the in game guide feature and followed some of it. However, this game was played and recorded last summer, so the recommended items have changed significantly since then! I agree with the arcane boots! Nowadays I rush build it asap after stick (if opposing laners have spam).

[@kermitthefrogo]

Dota 2 can get really complicated sometimes.. no worries keep learning and grinding❤

[@guilestevenobligar5728]

Ana - one of the best dota players in history said "I mean I don't even know wtf is going on, I can't even see my hero." So if you don't know what's happening, it's not just a beginner thing

[@wookyman]

nice video! keep pushing dota its worth ^^ my gf started the year aswell

[@yoncreator]

Thanks! Hope your gf is enjoying the game as much as I am!

[@McJoelNeduelan]

So far, you're doing great 👍

[@Nharaaaa]

4:25 bro the monkey sound just make me burst of laughing wtf ☠️

[@robertfarrand5496]

Huge thing i learned recently is you can right click your q and toggle on hoodwink and always make a tree first before it starts bouncing! also welcome!

[@ginnoji.]

Its kinda entertaining to watch dota from new player's perspective.

[@bamjo9]

Actually you are doing great! Well done bro

[@MahNemIsVan]

You're good bro, You will easily be a divine herald for sure.

[@bwunomaws12]

in my brain the terms flying donkey is just too funny but then i realize the default courier for the game is a literal flying donkey LMAO

[@FLMNG00]

Youre doing crazy good combos with your skills, a new player wouldnt even have pressed everything in a clash

[@Alex-jx3if]

from a league player switching to dota about a year ago the most frustrating thing about it is that the items that you have to build is sooooooooooo confusing

[@adislan1]

Good job brow. You played really Nice.

[@thelie6992]

10 years of league is like 10 nanoseconds of dota

[@dustgrau]

I noticed that you keep clicking the enemies when pressing your Q then following it up with your W but there is no stun since there is no tree for the enemies to get tangled on. As hoodwink, you can right click your Q or press CTRL + Q to use the alternate cast for the spell (the spell's icon will change as well if you do this). In this case, hoodwink's acorn shot will always plant a tree no matter if you click the enemy or not allowing you to instantly throw your W to stun enemies. Also, welcome to DotA

[@Your-Magesty]

It looks like you're playing for like 5 month or something already, because you got the hang of it, but still confused with what you should be doing overall. You're doing well, im very proud of you.

[@galeb95std]

8:04 Man, that was a wonderful play. You'll rank up very fast!

[@darkterrorvoid3260]

6:39 yea that's good stuff, u stunt that huskar on point on a range that often player miss cos the interface skill for bushwak kinda buggy

[@yoncreator]

Thanks! Sometimes Dota does feel a bit clunky in comparison to League in terms of timing and ability cast windows. I struggled with that a lot, but after playing a few hundred hours of Dota I got used to it for the most part nowadays!

[@prothoraxe]

You got good editing, thumbs up :)

[@Trygorn]

Always fun to see somone learning dota for the first time. Not sure how it is in League but alot of Heros and some items in dota allow you to operate from a significant distance with many being able to reach offscreen, this is also why ward vision is so important as more often then not by the time you can see the enemy hero on your screen its already too late so you'll want that early warning. Also does League have invis heroes, cuz if not your in for some pain with invis ganks XD

[@MrLin0690]

i see dota content i subscribe

[@yoncreator]

I see kind comment, I reply :)

[@MrLin0690]

@@yoncreator awwwww

[@YuketsuGaming]

that was awesome, u did great

[@grantfact9740]

Doing way better than most keep it up

[@fish.come.from_the_milk]

love it would watch the next

[@reyneerleon3851]

if you did not know that in Dota there are 5 roles and it is common in there to have 2 supports in the team very common

[@yoncreator]

For sure! I knew about the roles, but wasn't sure if Primal Beast was the offlaner because he wasn't farming for a bit in the game!