Leagues Cup: Under the Microscope

Leagues Cup...a great idea or manufactured rivalries? In the next few weeks, MLS will pause it's season for the first edition of Leagues Cup, a brand new tournament that pits all 29 MLS clubs and all 18 Liga MX clubs against each other in a World Cup style tournament. I don't know about you, but right now, I'm very skeptical.
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[@Anthony.LaRosa]

First off, thank you to everyone for watching. With that being said, I definitely hear everyone’s opinions, and I myself am making new ones as we see the tournament play out. I WILL be making an update video after the tourney, so keep an eye out for that ;)

[@gutika113]

Can’t wait to see it.

[@dannytradio]

I'm excited, but I hate that every game is played in the US & Canada. It's ok to be challenged and its ok to play in tough environments!

[@elicarlson7682]

I totally agree, also when Anthony said “who asked for this” I immediately thought back to your MLS/Liga MX Superliga video where are you actually wanted something pretty similar to the present day Leagues Cup Format.

[@FURIADEPORTIVA]

Is not about the challenge. Nobody cares about MLS in Mexico, only reason why this tournament is played in the US.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I'm excited too! I know I kind of railed a lot of aspects, but if it works, I'm all for it. As I made this, I kept thinking about your MLS is Back Tournament predictions haha

[@MisterADj]

It's play in the US because people here pay in dollars. The only reason this is happening. Mexican owners want money, MLS publicity

[@Slappist_Cast]

@@FURIADEPORTIVAI feel like the local fans would want to see their teams defeat MLS.

[@Ciaran_Johnson]

The fact that all games are played in the US & Canada puts a dampener on an otherwise fantastic tournament. Looking forward to watching though.

[@bencurtis7328]

As a charlotte fan, I actually really appreciate this. We can’t come close to making ccl, so it’s a good opportunity to play some international games.

[@EduardoEliasCanela]

Play some international teams, not games.

[@augusto2006-amg]

I'm excited for it. It's a good opportunity for small MLS players to have some foreign competition

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

Absolutely. Good opportunity for clubs that do not normally get to play in these types of matches!

[@EduardoEliasCanela]

It’s all domestic. Lol

[@tdubmusketeer]

Mexico Canada & US all worked together to bring the next World Cup. It’s kinda owed to Liga MX for making it happen.

[@timothycastaneda9363]

I love this. Keep in mind, conembol and concacaf just agreed again to let concacaf teams play on Copa libertadores. This is great for MLS teams to keep going.

[@telephoneradio]

As a Mexican I find this tournament insulting; our local league gets delayed, our players could get injured, most of the matches will be boring to watch, and everything just to fill their own pockets, and what do we get in return? nothing, all matches will be played in the US and if for some reason I wanted to watch the full tournament I would have to buy the MLS Season Pass. Are you fucking kidding me? The MLS pass? I have to buy the streaming service of another country's league to watch this? The idea of a combined cup could be quite fun but the execution is a bloody insult to Mexican fans.

[@wetguavass]

this CACA CUP is going to affect Liga Mx teams in the champions ...

[@ColeOfCentauri]

As a Chicago Fire fan myself, having witnessed the team on multiple occasions falling one position short of the CCL, never qualifying once since winning the title back in 98, that I’m excited for this tournament, but I also completely understand and mostly agree with your concerns. I certainly hope that in the future, they will play some of the games in Mexico, but I’m not quite so concerned about TMMTMG, because eventually the minnows are all eaten, and we’ll get to watch the big boys duking it out. That being said, I don’t fancy myself a normal person, and normal people might find TMMTMG a huge turn off. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the tournament, and we’ll see what happens.

[@angelbadillo4511]

There is a lot of people with these exact sentiments. A lot of fans want to watch their team play an mls team for bragging rights. Not all teams make the spots to do so.

[@milkdab6977]

Liga MX just started 3 weeks ago so that should give MLS teams an advantage. Shame on FMF for allowing more of these molero cups. Anyways Cruz Azul is currently the worst team in the league so Inter Mami should be able to win.

[@mattm.2591]

The point that most resonated with me is that none of these matches are being played in Mexico. They should just focus on promoting the Champions League/Cup a lot more than they have been. Plus, there is value in scarcity, in making matches mean more. Have the Sounders and Timbers play just twice a year. Only play Liga MX clubs in the Champions League/Cup. One of the reasons why the NFL is so popular is because of that scarcity; it makes top matchups mean much more. As a result, they are anticipated so much more versus when soccer teams play each other often.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

Very good points. The Champions Cup could be so much better than it is now. I agree with you that that tournament definitely needs to be promoted more. leagues Cup feels like a competitor against that competition (even though you can qualify for it through Leagues Cup)

[@mmmcounts]

The thing is, there are So many teams in MLS that would otherwise face Mexican teams super rarely if ever, and we all know there's Mexican clubs that will never play against any MLS team. I don't think this is overkill at all. Any average or below average team from either league will get one or two, maybe three games against teams from the other league. Average to below average teams love that. MLS has tried so many things to try and get the league to take off, and now they're trying something that already has a history of working. Lean into nationalism a little. We love us some nationalism. This is the league of Our nation, and now it's going up against the league of Another nation to the fullest extent possible.

[@alexissenseii1678]

This competition is making the CCL feel less prestigious

[@reintaler6355]

Everytime I see a CCL classic getting less than 100k views on YT I die a little inside

[@Jemuzu80]

They need to hook up with COMMEBOL and create an Americas champions league if they want to create something that actually matters or has an significance

[@erik2730]

I don’t like the way you are viewing this tournament, you should be excited. This has been a long anticipated & the fact that’s it’s come only until 2023 is ridiculous. I can’t wait for the first games, this tournament will have lots of eyes on it for recruiting purposes to bigger clubs.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I’m ready to be proven wrong. I will be watching as many games as possible, even going to some as well! I hope it’s as awesome as many people think it will be

[@airlinepilot87]

Some fair points, but I kinda like that every club gets to play in the tournament. It opens up at least the chance of of a Cinderella story. Also hoping it might attract new American fans who resonate with the college madness feel. We’ll see!

[@SoundsideSherry]

You nailed it with the points on the "new rivalries" tagline and the MLS venue exclusivity. There's definitely some potential in the larger format here, but with the venue exclusivity, it feels like the tournament is stacked in MLS' favor instead of being even across the board (like it should be). And I can't help but roll my eyes at the commercials hammering in the promise of "new rivalries being made" in Leagues Cup. This league has enough of an obsession with propping up paper rivalries instead of letting them develop naturally--I don't see there being a genuine spark between any MLS and Liga MX side.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I'm really hoping some of these matches don't feel like preseason friendlies. But, with no genuine spark, and a competition in it's first run through, I fear we may get some of those vibes, at least in the group stage.

[@SoundsideSherry]

@@Anthony.LaRosa It's definitely got some wrinkles that need to be worked out, but the optimist in me wants to say that the tournament *could* work in the near future, provided that MLS listens to criticisms like these.

[@jarchivas]

Chivas and Timbers fan here. Im excited to see this cup because of the rivalry between USA soccer and Mexican Soccer. It interesting because both leagues play very differently.

[@DAVIDSandro-iq6kk]

Im sorry but this leagues cup is a joke. This all cater to mls and usa All it does insults liga mx. U got usa media pusbing more anti mexican sentiment. This is a utter joke.

[@winter83]

Stl is playing Club America here in STL so I'll definitely be going but it's so late at night on a weekday. It's like they don't want anyone to show up.

[@manny4812]

Mls 29 teams vs 18 and each group 2mls vs 1mx 😂 2/3 teams qualify to the tourny. The odds 🤑

[@MariobricksMC]

I mean, one thing I like about this, it's a potential to win silverware. My club is Tijuana, no matter what, call me die hard if you like. But whilst only being formed in 2007, the club only really has one major trophy, the 2012 Liga MX Apertura season. So I would hope my club would go all out on this opportunity in a city where it's now becoming more Baseball. To finally see the club win something again and qualify for the Champions Cup.

[@vamosorlando]

It just seems like another money grab, Orlando’s CCL game against tigres felt special because we’d never qualified before, but now we’re getting international games every year.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I feel that. When Crew played against Monterrey in 2021, I was so excited to see that type of game because it was so rare. I will say though, I'm really looking forward to seeing Crew play Club America

[@juanmix2009]

I think it may be a slow start to this new tournament, but overall I see it growing with time and being a great way to actually gauge where both leagues are at against each other. I'm excited for it.

[@JoeMamaFromTexas]

This is so fire. I’m 22 and am glad to see “soccer” get so popular in the US in my lifetime

[@pachho808]

the only reason this exists is for Champions Cup qualification

[@chrissao_502]

I still think if the Leagues Cup wants to exist, it should be the top 18 MLS and 10 LMX clubs, plus add in 4 CPL clubs and have a fully NAFU Cup similar to the UNCAF and CFU Cups that exist as CCC qualifiers. This gives it some meaning in the grander scheme of CONCACAF *AND* a club has to qualify for it, meaning no bottom feeders.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

Great idea

[@adrianherrera9121]

I’m actually very excited! Die hard Club America fan here who will be traveling to St. Louis from Chicago to see the game July 27!

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I'm genuinely super excited to see the Crew host Club America. Can't wait to experience that.

[@CRValtierra]

Man, this MLS vs Liga MX thing is whack. It's clear that Liga MX is superior to MLS quality wise. Not saying MLS is terrible but it's not on the level of Liga MX. In my opinion I rather see Liga MX back in libertadores. Those games where always exciting. America, Cruz Azul, Pumas, Chivas, Tigers, Toluca, Pachuca etc vs River, Boca Joinors, Fulmenense, Independiente, Emelec, etc. In my opinion, this will be another Liga MX final. All I can say is.. Cruz Azul is the inaugural champion 😂😂😂

[@stronkveak5917]

good for MLS bad for Liga MX

[@willjohnson3547]

i think it will be fun but the mls is kinda like overplaying the hype and also the fact that its only in MLS stadiums kinda sucks but i think for the first year i can get by it. Loons szn ticket holder btw and we get to host two games so im alright with it

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

Crew got one of the best groups. Saint Louis and Club America. I’m exited to go to the Club America game! I would love to go to the STL one too, but I’m out of town :/

[@gracielynn9623]

The rivalries commercial is a joke. MLS does awful enough about creating domestic rivalries. I’m a Charlotte supporter. MLS props up Charlotte vs Nashville as the biggest thing since the invention of religion thousands of years ago. Most us Charlotte fans don’t give a rats ass about Nashville and view FC Cincinnati as a gigantic rival because of the Queen City identity and MLS won’t even market it or acknowledge it.

[@oscard.7123]

This video was obviously records before Messi.

[@isaacgogna9856]

I think this is okay but I don’t know if it should be an every year thing. And maybe this shouldn’t just be vs liga mx each time.

[@nicholasbodily2516]

I didn’t plan on watching this cup before it started, but surprisingly it really has been a fun tournament. Its draw for me is being able to see how the leagues overall compare. Seeing KC and Cincinnati both take down chivas with having players linked to chivas was fun to see. I think that some games in Mexico and better streaming there would be a huge step forward though.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

The games have been very fun to watch

[@brandonb3174]

@@Anthony.LaRosatrue but This tournament was imposed on Mexican soccer because US soccer and Concacaf hold Mexican soccer hostage thanks to the illicit activities of certain Mexican federation officials who were never indicted on the condition that Mexico leave copa libertadores and comply with the wishes of US soccer and Concacaf.

[@abramkoucheki]

honestly couldn't disagree more and left the video feeling like I just watched someone complain about a cool competition we get to watch. As a new fan, I think this is a great idea to get newer MLS/Liga MX fans further invested in our leagues. I don't understand how a low table MLS team vs low table Liga MX is worst than having two lower tier MLS teams go against each other in league play, no one cares outside of those fans... should we throw away regular season games and only keep the games the neutrals will watch? Idk, found myself disagreeing with every point and wondering why put so much effort into making such a negative video.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

This shit is so rigged just to try and get Americans to watch some more SoCeR 😅all Mls teams with home field advantage...give me a break

[@brandonb3174]

@edgar80lolwon’t happen no one in Mexico is gonna go to a Nashville vs Minnesota in the bbva stadium. This tournament was imposed on Mexican soccer because US soccer and Concacaf hold Mexican soccer hostage thanks to the illicit activities of certain Mexican federation officials who were never indicted on the condition that Mexico leave copa libertadores and comply with the wishes of US soccer and Concacaf.

[@vamosorlando]

By far the best MLS KZbinr btw, please upload more

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I appreciate the support! I try my best to post as much as possible!

[@edgarponce746]

Personally I’ve been enjoying it, but I consume all the Footy 😄 disappointed San Luis & St Louis didn’t share a group

[@simonhimself1]

As an MLS fan I really don’t care about matches against LMX. It’s not on the same level as the champions league. Leagues cup seems like a cheap knockoff of UCL.

[@Air0087]

The Pumas players really thought it was a derby against CF Montreal last night for whatever reason. It felt really weird to watch them trying to start shit at times.

[@Sponged43]

It’s been exciting so far 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jesus100441]

I'm excited for leagues cup, it sounds interesting and I hope it's better than CCL, CCL is a mickey mouse cup, literally nobody cares about CCL in mexico. A few things to point out. First of all, i feel like theres a lot groups, too many teams qualify to KOs, MLS is trying to make an unnecesarily rivarly but i guess its fine. Praying for libertadores to be back asap

[@kem1233]

Im sorry but this a scam. Only way to watch is through apple tv. All games are in usa soil. Yea.... THIS THING IS CATER TO USA

[@captainfalconmain6576]

@@kem1233not true you can watch it in unvisian Lmao and some matches are free anyways so your lieing to your self

[@guillesuperior]

Mexican fans see this tournament as a poor attempt to saturate their teams schedule to have an excuse to refuse their participation in Copa Libertadores, which is a competition the Mexicans are totally missing because there they had a lot of competitive games against Brazilian and Argentinian clubs

[@jacksonbraun9548]

The fact you call out Charlotte specifically as well as teams who are bad in their league standings is funny because intermiami versus Charlotte is about to be the most watched game of the cup so far and I'm very excited for it😂😂😂😂

[@eduardoaguilar8032]

I’m pretty sure a lot of Mexican people will go and support their teams just like the Mexican National team

[@Downey-2000]

I completely disagree with this guy . Im totally interested and im going to watch and its good for soccer culture in north America .

[@e2m514]

As a Liga MX fan, I did NOT ask for this. As a matter of fact, I asked NOT to be in it. Liga MX is not the effing NFL, conferences are bullshit. F the MLS.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

People said the same thing with the super liga but it ended up being awesome

[@captainfalconmain6576]

To be fair that was 8 teams

[@marcchristopher856]

Valid concerns. It doesn't really seem like the Liga MX teams care and the fans are not selling, at least going by the number of complimentary or discounted tickets I'm seeing for Audi Field this weekend. It seems to me that Apple buying the rights to air CONCACAF Champions Cup and disributing it would have been a great way to promote the tournament. They could have worked with the federation to move the dates back a few weeks

[@cholos17]

We need to invite South American clubs because that will bring true variety 🌎🤘

[@Josh-xy3td]

I hate that Leagues cup gets spots for champions league and the Caribbean only has 3 spots

[@KindaHappy15]

Makes sense that you don’t like this tournament, you’re not a real fan if you only pay attention to the bigger teams…

[@rafaeljonathancamiloveraro4199]

One month later: the only reason of this tournament was to watch Messi… and it has been worth it 😅😅😅

[@hardlo7146]

The fact that every game is a home game for the MLS sides is kinda BS.

[@jgrc4588]

I think you're right, manufactured rivalries is a good title for the event, that mostly benefits all the big boys behind the curtain. I just don't understand why some of these matches aren't played on Mexican stadium, this is clearly a lopsided home court advantage. It's about marketing and the Benjamins. Capital that are generating the Messi Mania, no doubt one of the greatest players that ever played a game. Is highly likely that all is already setup for Miami and Messi to win the cup. That translates into millions of dollars to the executives that manage the business, because at the end of the day, that's what it's all about, Business...

[@brandonb3174]

This tournament was imposed on Mexican soccer because US soccer and Concacaf hold Mexican soccer hostage thanks to the illicit activities of certain Mexican federation officials who were never indicted on the condition that Mexico leave copa libertadores and comply with the wishes of US soccer and Concacaf.

[@NoName-rq6bg]

0:24 no if we want to improve we have to play the libertardores

[@teamexos2189]

And most of the bottom feeders are the querter finalist right now

[@ftgrimm1016]

Hey man I appreciate this video, I'm a Mexican fan (living in Mexico), was looking for insight about how the MLS fans feel about this, and we're in the same road. I personally don't feel engage with this, feels cheap to be honest, FMF took us out of Copa Libertadores (Playing against South American teams), and since them they just want to keep pushing us into American Market (even more after they took out relegation from our league) , don't want to be disrespecful but it's not helping us to raise the level of our league but the other way around, and with that making both leagues feel more even, when IMO, Liga MX should increise the level playing in Copa Libertadores and then with CCL helping increise the level of MLS and Central American teams, or even better and just have one tournament for the whole continent (The Americas). Anyway, greetings from Mexico :).

[@ftgrimm1016]

By the way, sorry if their's any error, I'm not use to write in english at all. Have a nice day.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I feel what you are saying, and like you, I love hearing what you think from a Liga MX perspective. I know that the leagues are trying to grow together, but I see what you are saying that pushing into the American market maybe isn't pushing Liga MX to their best.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

​@@ftgrimm1016 Tus ingles es mejor que mi español jaja. Gracias por el comentario.

[@AlbertoGomez-oi5ou]

@@Anthony.LaRosa i mean MLS is not bad as we (90's kid) always heard in the past, MLS is better in more aspects but it feels like a "marriage" you know the weird feeling when you suddenly date someone just casual and then she says "i love you" then is has passed 3 months and she wants to get married so fast that you don't even process the info, you just remember you were bangin' chicks out there and you are just stuck with one, and I think you also want to play against Copa Libertadores teams, not just with us, or put some spicy with central american teams or caribbean but smh maybe is the geography that doomed us to play with mediocre central/caribbean temas and be so far from south america

[@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr]

cuando van entender que no fue la federacion la que nos quito la libertadores... Los Sudamericano NO quieren equipos mexicanos jugando sus torneos, se notaba de a madre en los equipos que invitaban, NUNCA invitaron a equipo de cima de la tabla, por dios una vez llevaron a chivas directo a cuartos por sin ninguna razon... Los arbirtrajes estaban turbo cargados, NO se podia jugar una final en Mexico aunque se lo ganaran... Nunca voy a entender el afan de querer estarle llorando a esos juegos cuando los Sudamericanos nos tratan como basura...

[@corcor5938]

Tigres and Crew Can become friends with this Cup. I’m try so hard >:3

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

The Zelarayan connection

[@CPWoessner]

I’m confused tigres won clausura and Pachuca won apetura then when both of them played to see who was the better champion in campeón de campeones tigres won why are they not advancing to round of 16????

[@captainfalconmain6576]

My guess they decide the bye way before Tigres won liga mx but your right it’s makes no sense

[@josuebarboza9809]

The central American clubs are a non factor. This is an upgraded concacaf champions league in every way. Concacaf champions leagues should be done away with and the leagues cup be made a season long tournament. Invite the 2 best teams of all of central America and call it a day 😂

[@kem1233]

What kind of garbage u talking about. This is a scam. Worst thing is almost all games will be on apple tv?? Seriously. All games are on usa soil??? What kind of crap is this.

[@mmmcounts]

Three countries. Two leagues. One cup.

[@elicarlson7682]

I’m going to STL vs Club América

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I'm at Crew vs Club America. Super hyped for that.

[@Backpackfiles]

I'm an MLS day-one, Chicago Fire day-one. It feels like a cash grab with training wheels on MLS. I'm kinda done with all of it.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I just hope the play on the field does it justice.

[@2815marionwood]

Tooooo many tournaments. boring, too much.

[@paulforrester8711]

Loons fan here. So far, I've really enjoyed Leagues Cup. The atmosphere at Allianz was really cool with all kinds of El Tri and Liga MX fans in attendance, and not just fans of Puebla. I do wish that hosting alters every year or something because having it in the US every year doesn't seem a) fair or b) exciting. I understand why they might want to do that, but I'd love to attend some away games in Mexico.

[@Weavileiscool]

As someone who got into MLS because they added a team in Saint Louis I’m looking forward to any time my team can play for now at least. Also they got put into an insanely good group that will be fun to watch.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

Not that matter but concaf nations league is happing again an 3 months

[@captainfalconmain6576]

The reason it’s already Gonna be here already soon is because it’s gonna be a copa America 2024 qualifier

[@ULTRAS__]

Hi Anthony, this Leagues cup video should be helpful for your spanish speaking community : kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5ekY6SYmKdkkKs

[@gideonpage8722]

i don’t think the majority of mls fans watch CCL or many of the other tournaments you mentioned so i think the leagues cup is a good opportunity to get those one off matches between teams that would regularly never play each other and because of those new opportunities i think all sides could improve bc i’d be damned if dallas lost to Necaxa…. i think in the future the leagues cup could resemble the new world cup format, inviting all the central and south american leagues and even replacing the CCL

[@captainfalconmain6576]

You also forgot that people been asking for mls to be an copa libertias for years now

[@johnguerrero8473]

Ez Tigres dub

[@giancarlotorres3520]

Tigres, current Liga MX champion. Or most recent. also leagues cup in the past was fun as I got to see Gignac play in Salt Lake which was worth it. I miss when Liga MX played I. Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana 😢 also we mount forget that MLS teams did participate in Copa Sudamericana. Also the paisas will be bringing in that money 💰

[@omarr853]

They just be making these Mickey Mouse tournaments so that the US/USMNT fanbase have something to cheer about the only North/Central America tournament that matters is the gold cup. This new tournament seems okay I’d probably only watch Club America games but those starting matches don’t interest me at all tbh I could care less about Columbus Crew or St Louis FC.

[@gracielynn9623]

Well I was super excited for leagues cup because CCL is boring as watching paint dry because next to no one cares or takes it seriously. You’ve now squashed all that excitement. Thanks I guess. I do agree with you on one point though. I would’ve liked to see games played in mexico. Would’ve been more engaging and fun.

[@boniface494]

This video just confirms what I thought of MLS after I tried to understand the completions formats. MLS is a huge mess. I only understand the leagues cup and I think having 3 teams in a group is terrible

[@AHomelessShoe]

Honestly, I'm not that excited. The chance for the CCL is exciting, but if we don't make a run, then I'll probably lose interest.

[@joshgarrison92]

Nah this is hype. I love having all the teams involved. This is the real tournament now.

[@oleanderkazzy_]

I wish the CCL had gotten the hype and popularity of it's UEFA equivalent.

[@emperorofatlantis14]

let all be real here, the USA is the main culprit behind most of these tournaments to host PLUS not realizing how much more vaule CCL is than Leagues Cup and other pointless cups.

[@mmmcounts]

I love having everyone involved, but I don't love that for most teams in MLS, there's two games. One of them is against a Liga MX club. And then there's a bunch of time off. So here's how I would do it. First group stage, there's 8 groups. As of now, that means 5 or 6 teams in each group. I'm not giving anyone a bye, but recent champions get priority to be placed in groups with a smaller number of teams. In the next stage, I have a guiding principle. What we want to see is the best teams against the best teams, the mid teams against the mid teams, and the bad teams against the bad teams. So after the first group stage, the top 2 from each group progress to the group stage proper. Very standard- four groups of four. The top two from each of those groups will be considered the top 8 teams of this year's tournament, and they will share a pot for the seeding of next year's first group stage. The next 8 from the group stage proper will also be seeded together. We proceed from the group stage proper to standard knockout matchups as you would expect. First place of this group against second place of that group. As all of this is happening, I want to do a couple of other things. I would put the last place teams from the first group stage in a big group with one another, and they all get 7 games against each other. The remaining teams- the ones that were not last place but not in the top 2 places- get resorted into 4 groups. I'll call this the Big Group Stage. The top two from each group will share a pot when next year's group stages are worked out, as well as third and fourth place teams, and so on. In an ordinary tournament, this wouldn't mean much. But in a tournament that has international implications, there are additional stakes. Neither league wants to be the one that has all of these last place teams, and fans of both leagues will argue about which league is better from top to bottom even if the eventual winner is from the other league. I hope the tournament progresses is a direction that approximates something like this.

[@Thomas_Donofrio]

I could see this cup being a bigger deal for supporters of clubs that just won’t make it to the CCC. But I totally agree with your criticisms. One criticism for me is that there should be some matches hosted in Mexico.

[@french_toast223]

If mexico doesnt host games it means they dont care. Thats why concachampions, nations league. gold cup, and leagues cup are in the us. FMF doesnt care about these games enough to host them its about money not passion.

[@jzz6529]

I agree with you too much teams they should do the 10 best teams of each mls liga mx and travel to mexico Canada do a little mini libertadores and and some invite south and Central America teams!!!

[@MrHaro654]

Thankfully something for DC to get some international experience that’s not a friendly

[@servantofgod3546]

Thats weird . They can just the best club from every concacaf team and make it League club .

[@emperorofatlantis14]

plus ppl only showing up to MLS games is kuz thats all they ever know, they know so little about CCL let alone the world stage

[@kylecolbert1985]

Oh and it’s during the Women’s World Cup too 😂 talk about diluting an audience’s attention

[@captainfalconmain6576]

Lafc just beat Juarez 7-1 oh my maybe these game should of been Mexico 😂

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

I have no interest in this tournament.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

❤

[@Argenswiss]

I don't agree about the champions cup. You should scrap it and join the libertadores

[@zombtachi_uchiha]

i'm actually excited for Charlotte FC vs NExcasa

[@alternatehistorysports]

Great video, and I totally agree about them over-saturating the market with meaningless tournaments. However I think this could have been a good opportunity to get other CONCACAF nations involved. They have a load of US-Can-Mexico games, but an MLS Carribean cup, with winners from all over the carribean, could be a good opportunity to help those nations bring in revenue, and it would be mutually beneficial. Especially if they did it as a tour of the carribean, US sports fans bringing money to those nations would be a beautiful thing.

[@josecasillas4081]

Wait, so based on how the teams were divided into each group, you're telling me that there are at least 11 MLS (LAFC + 10 others) teams guaranteed to be in the next round against a minimum of 3 Liga Mx teams (Pachuca + 2 others), and NONE of the matches are going to be played in Mexico??? Not to mention that the MLS teams have been in their regular season for weeks now, how is any of this even fair to Liga Mx?

[@captainfalconmain6576]

I think match day 1 matches are an USA and second game for Mexico and same thing with the knockout stage that’s the only way I could think of

[@exactinmidget92]

time to watch my Chivas pull a Dortmund and choke on another tournament.

[@angelbadillo4511]

Not unique in playoff as it’s a whole thing in North America. Top 8-10 do a play off thing of some sort. 30 seconds in and already losing interest. It’s a good way to ruin competition and make seemingly more competition since it’s a two tournament thing. That’s how come European football is a class better they reward only the top 4 or 6 teams. Not give participation medals with a chance to win it all, and you didn’t even have to play well all year.

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

Still unique. Whether it’s in other North American leagues or not, that still means it’s unique to the rest of the world, especially Europe where most people consume the sport. One sentence into your comment and lost all interest.

[@oscarpena7285]

With all respect to the Americans, this is a setback for us (the Mexicans) because time is wasted playing against you that instead of playing against the South Americans in Libertadores and Sudamericana, we already had an advance reaching the finals and beating them, we only lacked the mischief of them (because we already have the quality) and we wanted to measure ourselves with them now. Greetings from Mexico.

[@kem1233]

Thank u. Thank u. Also all games on usa soil. And top of that. Almost all games on apple tv This is whole thing i know this is a joke. This just caters to MLs and usa crowd. Just like mls vs liga mx. That made up liga mx champion vs mls champion. Its a joke, no one values other usa propaganda to push this anti mexican shit. How mls is better than liga mx. mexican fans want to their clubs to go and play in sudamerica n libertadores. MLS N CONCACAF IS FORCING LIGA MX NOT TO DO THAT. If they go, mls and liga mx will come together. This is how i know USA is trying to merge concacaf with comnebol. Its going to happen. Right now, copa libertadores is losing money. Usa needs thos fans. This is why in argentina, they talk bad about liga mx. Which is reasonable but espn argentina pundits or tyc. They never talk down on mls. Thats because mLs has the dollar. Right now, south qmerica leagues are in crisis. Exception of brazil. Argentina, ecuador, colombia. They need that money U look at staduims in argentina. They need money. Mark my word. They will be a merger of conmebol n concacaf and usa will be in charge

[@aw3someinc175]

As a somewhat casual with league pass, this is my first time seeing mls vs Liga mx, don’t know where to get those other tournaments…probably cable which I don’t have. That would be my rebuttal to this video’s argument if champions cup is better great, leagues cup is accessible

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

I think this is a very solid point. All the games being streamed in a reliable place is a great aspect of this tournament.

[@javiermedellin847]

Is fix they just want messi to take it and mexico bring alot of money

[@FishHooksLover_2024]

As a charlotte fc fan, we almost lost to FC Dallas but we beat them in penalties

[@KMASports]

Good video, just small correction with the All-State Continental Classico. I believe the federation has said that it wont be against Mexico every year instead playing various north/south American Teams. (I could be mis-remembering though)

[@Anthony.LaRosa]

You are 100% correct. Missed that somehow. It does say it will be against a “top-tier opponent from North, Central, or South America.”

[@KMASports]

@Anthony.LaRosa yeah its still a cash grab and basically an extra January "Camp Cupcake," but I am glad that it at least will be various opponents 😂

[@Downey-2000]

Let the youngsters compete . Dejen a los jovenes competir .

[@4martin723]

It builds the rivalry between both leagues to compete, but pausing the season for a huge 3-4 week tournament ruins teams

[@4martin723]

But anyways excited for it, won’t ever see a league vs league format

[@srgvldmr]

I didn’t know it was going to be played in a month interesting.